Sheryl Sandberg: So we leaned in ... now what?

Translator: Dewi Barnas Reviewer: Ria Cahyani

Pat Mitchell: Your first time back on the TEDWomen stage.

Pat Mitchell: Kali pertama Anda kembali ke panggung TEDWomen.

Sheryl Sandberg: First time back. Nice to see everyone. It's always so nice to look out

Sheryl Sandberg: Ya. Senang bisa bertemu Anda semua.

Senang bisa melihat sekeliling dan ada banyak wanita.

and see so many women.

It's so not my regular experience, as I know anyone else's.

Ini tidak biasa untuk saya, dan saya tahu begitu juga dengan Anda.

PM: So when we first started talking about, maybe the subject wouldn't be social media,

PM: Kita akan mulai berbincang, mungkin bukan tentang media sosial

which we assumed it would be, but that you had very much on your mind

seperti yang kita kira, tapi mengenai pemikiran Anda tentang

the missing leadership positions, particularly in the sector of technology and social media.

hilangnya posisi kepemimpinan, terutama di bidang teknologi dan media sosial.

But how did that evolve for you as a thought, and end up being the TED Talk that you gave?

Tapi bagaimana pemikiran itu berkembang, hingga menjadi topik TED Talk Anda?

SS: So I was really scared to get on this stage and talk about women,

Saya sangat takut berada di sini dan bicara tentang wanita,

because I grew up in the business world, as I think so many of us did.

karena saya besar di dunia bisnis, dan saya pikir, banyak dari kita juga.

You never talk about being a woman, because someone might notice that you're a woman, right?

Anda tidak bicara tentang menjadi wanita karena seseorang bisa menyadarinya, kan?

They might notice. Or worse, if you say "woman," people on the other end of the table

Atau lebih parah lagi, kalau Anda bilang "wanita," orang-orang di seberang meja

think you're asking for special treatment, or complaining.

akan mengira Anda minta perlakuan khusus, atau mengeluh.

Or worse, about to sue them. And so I went through -- (Laughter)

Atau lebih buruk, hendak menuntut mereka. Dan karena itulah saya -- (Tertawa)

Right? I went through my entire business career,

Iya kan? Sepanjang karir bisnis saya,

and never spoke about being a woman, never spoke about it publicly.

saya tidak pernah membicarakan fakta tentang menjadi perempuan secara terbuka.

But I also had noticed that it wasn't working.

Tapi saya juga menyadari ini tidak berhasil.

I came out of college over 20 years ago, and I thought

Saya lulus kuliah lebih dari 20 tahun lalu, dan saya pikir

that all of my peers were men and women, all the people above me were all men,

kolega saya adalah pria dan wanita, semua orang diatas saya adalah pria,

but that would change,

tapi ini akan berubah,

because your generation had done such an amazing job fighting for equality,

karena generasi Anda memperjuangkan kesetaraan dengan sangat baik,

equality was now ours for the taking. And it wasn't.

kesetaraan sekarang adalah milik kita. Tapi ternyata tidak.

Because year after year, I was one of fewer and fewer,

Karena tahun demi tahun, saya adalah satu diantara sedikit wanita,

and now, often the only woman in a room.

dan sekarang, seringkali satu-satunya wanita di ruangan.

And I talked to a bunch of people about,

Dan saya meminta pendapat banyak orang,

should I give a speech at TEDWomen about women, and they said, oh no, no.

apakah sebaiknya saya bicara di TEDWomen tentang wanita, dan mereka bilang jangan.

It will end your business career. You cannot be a serious business executive

Karirmu akan berakhir. Kau tidak mungkin menjadi seorang eksekutif yang serius

dan bicara tentang menjadi wanita. Kau takkan pernah dianggap serius lagi.

and speak about being a woman. You'll never be taken seriously again.

But fortunately, there were the few, the proud -- like you -- who told me I should give the speech,

Tapi untungnya ada beberapa orang yang bangga--seperti Anda--yang mendorong saya,

and I asked myself the question Mark Zuckerberg might --

dan saya tanya diri saya sendiri pertanyaan yang mungkin

the founder of Facebook and my boss --

ditanya Mark Zuckerberg -- pendiri Facebook dan bos saya--

asks all of us, which is, what would I do if I wasn't afraid?

apa yang akan saya lakukan kalau saya tidak takut?

And the answer to what would I do if I wasn't afraid is I would get on the TED stage,

Dan jawabannya, kalau tidak takut saya akan naik ke panggung TED,

and talk about women, and leadership. And I did, and survived. (Applause)

bicara tentang wanita dan kepemimpinan.

Dan saya melakukannya, dan masih disini. (Tepuk tangan)

PM: I would say, not only survived. I'm thinking of that moment, Sheryl,

PM: Anda tidak sekadar selamat. Saya teringat saat itu, Sheryl,

when you and I were standing backstage together, and you turned to me,

ketika kita berdiri di belakang panggung. Anda menatap saya

and you told me a story.

dan menceritakan sebuah peristiwa.

And I said -- very last minute -- you know, you really should share that story.

Saya berkata--di saat-saat terakhir-- Anda harus menceritakan kisah itu.

SS: Oh, yeah. PM: What was that story?

SS: Oh, betul. PM: Cerita apa itu?

SS: Well, it's an important part of the journey. So I had -- TEDWomen --

SS: Ini bagian penting perjalanan ini. Jadi saya akan menghadiri TEDWomen

the original one was in D.C. -- so I live here, so I had gotten on a plane the day before,

yang asli di DC. Saya tinggal di sini, jadi saya naik pesawat sehari sebelumnya,

and my daughter was three, she was clinging to my leg: "Mommy, don't go."

dan putri saya yang usianya 3 tahun memeluk kaki saya: "Mama, jangan pergi."

And Pat's a friend, and so, not related to the speech I was planning on giving,

Dan Pat teman saya, dan meski tidak ada hubungannya dengan pidato saya,

which was chock full of facts and figures, and nothing personal,

yang penuh data dan angka, dan tidak personal,

I told Pat the story. I said, well, I'm having a hard day.

saya bercerita kepada Pat saya mengalami hari yang buruk.

Yesterday my daughter was clinging to my leg, and "Don't go."

Kemarin putri saya memeluk kaki saya dan memohon "Jangan pergi."

And you looked at me and said, you have to tell that story.

Dan Anda menatap saya dan berkata, kamu harus menceritakannya.

I said, on the TED stage? Are you kidding?

Saya bilang, di panggung TED? Anda bercanda?

I'm going to get on a stage and admit my daughter was clinging to my leg?

Saya harus naik panggung dan bilang putri saya tak mau melepaskan kaki saya?

And you said yes, because if you want to talk about getting more women into leadership roles,

Dan Anda bilang ya. Kalau saya ingin mengajak wanita menjadi pemimpin,

you have to be honest about how hard it is.

saya harus jujur tentang betapa beratnya hal itu.

And I did. And I think that's a really important part of the journey.

Dan saya melakukannya. Menurut saya itu bagian sangat penting dari perjalanan ini.

The same thing happened when I wrote my book. I started writing the book. I wrote a first chapter,

Hal yang sama terjadi ketika saya menulis buku saya. Saya menulis bab pertama,

I thought it was fabulous. It was chock-full of data and figures,

saya pikir sangat bagus. Penuh data dan angka.

I had three pages on matrilineal Maasai tribes, and their sociological patterns.

Ada tiga halaman tentang suku Maasai yang matrilineal, dan pola sosiologisnya.

My husband read it and he was like, this is like eating your Wheaties. (Laughter)

Suami saya membacanya dan dia bilang, ini seperti makan sereal. (Tertawa)

No one -- and I apologize to Wheaties if there's someone -- no one, no one will read this book.

Maaf atas perumpamaan ini -- tidak seorang pun akan membaca buku ini.

And I realized through the process that I had to be more honest and more open,

Dan dalam proses itu saya menyadari keharusan untuk lebih jujur, dan terbuka,

and I had to tell my stories. My stories of still not feeling as self-confident as I should,

dan menceritakan kisah saya. Kisah bahwa saya masih tidak begitu percaya diri

in many situations. My first and failed marriage. Crying at work.

dalam banyak situasi. Gagalnya pernikahan pertama saya. Menangis di tempat kerja.

Felling like I didn't belong there, feeling guilty to this day.

Merasa tempat saya bukan di sini, merasa bersalah hingga hari ini.

And part of my journey, starting on this stage, going to "Lean In," going to the foundation,

Dan perjalanan saya mulai dari panggung hingga ke "Lean In," dan yayasan,

is all about being more open and honest about those challenges,

adalah tentang menjadi lebih terbuka dan jujur terhadap semua tantangan itu,

so that other women can be more open and honest,

agar wanita-wanita lain bisa menjadi lebih terbuka dan jujur,

and all of us can work together towards real equality.

dan kita semua bisa bekerja sama menuju kesetaraan yang sebenarnya.

PM: I think that one of the most striking parts about the book,

PM: Saya pikir salah satu bagian yang paling menonjol dari buku Anda,

and in my opinion, one of the reasons it's hit such a nerve and is resonating around the world,

dan menurut saya, salah satu alasan buku ini begitu mengena dan diminati

di seluruh dunia,

is that you are personal in the book, and that you do make it clear that,

adalah karena Anda bercerita secara personal, dan begitu terang menjelaskan

while you've observed some things that are very important for other women to know,

sementara Anda mengamati hal-hal yang sangat penting untuk diketahui wanita lain

that you've had the same challenges that many others of us have,

Anda juga menghadapi tantangan yang sama yang kita semua hadapi,

as you faced the hurdles and the barriers and possibly the people who don't believe the same.

ketika Anda menemui rintangan, dan mungkin orang-orang dengan keyakinan berbeda.

So talk about that process: deciding you'd go public with the private part,

Ceritakan prosesnya: bagaimana Anda memutuskan membuka hal-hal pribadi ini,

and then you would also put yourself in the position of something of an expert

dan kemudian menempatkan diri Anda pada posisi seseorang yang ahli

on how to resolve those challenges.

dalam menghadapi berbagai tantangan itu.

SS: After I did the TED Talk, what happened was --

SS: Setelah saya bicara di TED sebelumnya, yang terjadi adalah --

you know, I never really expected to write a book, I'm not an author, I'm not a writer,

Saya tak pernah menduga akan menulis buku, saya bukan penulis,

and it was viewed a lot, and it really started impacting people's lives.

TED Talk saya dilihat banyak orang, dan mulai mempengaruhi kehidupan banyak orang.

I got this great --- one of the first letters I got was from a woman

Saya mendapat -- salah satu surat pertama yang saya terima datang dari seorang wanita

who said that she was offered a really big promotion at work, and she turned it down,

Ia menolak tawaran kenaikan pangkat di kantornya,

and she told her best friend she turned it down, and her best friend said,

dan menceritakannya pada sahabatnya. Sahabatnya berkata,

you really need to watch this TED Talk.

kamu benar-benar harus menonton TED Talk ini.

And so she watched this TED Talk, and she went back the next day, she took the job,

Dia menontonnya, kembali bekerja besoknya, dan menerima kenaikan pangkat itu.

she went home, and she handed her husband the grocery list. (Laughter)

Dia pulang, dan memberi daftar belanjaan kepada suaminya. (Tertawa)

And she said, I can do this.

Dan dia bilang, saya bisa melakukannya.

And what really mattered to me -- it wasn't only women in the corporate world,

Tapi yang penting bagi saya -- bukan hanya soal wanita di dunia korporat,

even though I did hear from a lot of them, and it did impact a lot of them,

meski saya mendengar banyak input tentang dampak TED Talk itu bagi mereka.

it was also people of all different circumstances.

tapi juga orang-orang dalam berbagai kondisi yang berbeda.

There was a doctor I met who was an attending physician at Johns Hopkins,

Ada seorang dokter yang saya temui, yang bekerja di RS John Hopkins,

and he said that until he saw my TED Talk, it never really occurred to him

dan dia bilang bahwa sebelum menonton TED Talk saya, tak pernah terpikir olehnya

that even though half the students in his med school classes were women,

bahwa meski setengah siswanya di sekolah kedokteran adalah wanita,

they weren't speaking as much as the men as he did his rounds.

mereka tidak bicara sebanyak siswa pria ketika memeriksa pasien.

So he started paying attention, and as he waited for raised hands, he realized the men's hands were up.

Dia mulai memperhatikan, dan melihat bahwa para pria lebih sering mengangkat tangan.

So he started encouraging the women to raise their hands more,

Jadi ia mulai menyemangati siswa wanita untuk lebih aktif, dan tidak berhasil.

and it still didn't work.

So he told everyone, no more hand raising, I'm cold-calling.

Jadi dia berkata tidak ada lagi angkat tangan, dia akan memanggil nama.

So he could call evenly on men and women. And what he proved to himself was that

Dia memanggil siswa pria dan wanita secara seimbang. Dan ia melihat bahwa

the women knew the answers just as well or better,

siswa wanita juga tahu jawabannya, atau bahkan lebih tahu,

and he was able to go back to them and tell them that.

dan dia bisa mengatakannya pada mereka.

And then there was the woman, stay-at-home mom, lives in a really difficult neighborhood,

Lalu ada seorang ibu rumah tangga, tinggal di lingkungan miskin,

with not a great school, she said that TED Talk -- she's never had a corporate job,

yang tidak memiliki sekolah bagus. Wanita ini tidak pernah bekerja di kantor,

but that TED Talk inspired her to go to her school and fight for a better teacher for her child.

tapi TED Talk itu mendorongnya menuntut guru yang lebih baik untuk anaknya.

And I guess it was part of was finding my own voice.

Dan saya rasa itu bagian dari menemukan suara saya sendiri.

And I realized that other women and men could find their voice through it,

Dan saya menyadari bahwa wanita lain, dan juga pria,

dapat menemukan suara mereka melaluinya,

which is why I went from the talk to the book.

dan karena itulah saya menulis buku setelah TED Talk itu.

PM: And in the book, you not only found your voice, which is clear and strong in the book,

PM: Dalam buku Anda, Anda tidak hanya menemukan suara Anda,

yang sangat jelas dan kuat dalam buku itu,

but you also share what you've learned --

tapi Anda juga membagi sesuatu yang Anda pelajari --

the experiences of other people in the lessons.

pengalaman-pengalaman orang lain dalam pelajaran itu.

And that's what I'm thinking about in terms of putting yourself in a --

Dan itulah yang terpikir oleh saya ketika mengatakan menempatkan diri Anda pada --

you became a sort of expert in how you lean in.

Anda menjadi semacam ahli dari cara Anda terlibat (lean in).

So what did that feel like, and become like in your life?

Jadi bagaimana rasanya, dan bagaimana kehidupan Anda berubah?

To launch not just a book, not just a best-selling, best-viewed talk,

Tidak saja menerbitkan sebuah buku, atau sebuah pidato yang banyak dilihat

but a movement, where people began to literally describe their actions at work as,

tapi sebuah pergerakan,di mana orang-orang mendeskripsikan tindakan mereka

dalam pekerjaan mereka sebagai keterlibatan (leaning in).

I'm leaning in.

SS: I mean, I'm grateful, I'm honored, I'm happy, and it's the very beginning.

SS: Saya beryukur, saya tersanjung, saya bahagia, dan ini masih tahap awal.

So I don't know if I'm an expert, or if anyone is an expert. I certainly have done a lot of research.

Saya tidak tahu apakah saya ahli, atau ada yang ahli.Saya melakukan banyak riset.

I have read every study, I have pored over the materials,

Saya membaca semua penelitian yang ada, mengumpulkan semua materi yang ada,

and the lessons are very clear. Because here's what we know:

dan pelajarannya sangat jelas. Inilah yang ingin kita ketahui:

What we know is that stereotypes are holding women back from leadership roles all over the world.

Kita tahu stereotipe menahan wanita dari peran pemimpin di seluruh dunia.

Ini mengejutkan. "Lean in" mengglobal. Saya sudah keliling dunia,

It's so striking. "Lean In" is very global, I've been all over the world,

talking about it, and -- cultures are so different.

membahasnya, dan -- budayanya sangat berbeda.

Even within our own country, to Japan, to Korea, to China, to Asia, Europe,

Bahkan di negara kita sendiri, hingga Jepang, Korea, China, Asia, Eropa,

they're so different. Except for one thing: gender.

budayanya begitu berbeda. Kecuali satu hal: gender.

All over the world, no matter what our cultures are,

Di seluruh dunia, apa pun budayanya,

we think men should be strong, assertive, aggressive, have voice;

kita berpikir bahwa pria harusnya kuat, tegas, agresif, dan punya pendirian;

we think women should speak when spoken to, help others.

sementara perempuan baru bicara ketika ditanya, membantu orang lain.

Now we have, all over the world,

Yang terjadi di seluruh dunia sekarang,

women are called "bossy." There is a word for "bossy,"

wanita disebut "bossy." Ada kata untuk "bossy,"

for little girls, in every language there's one.

untuk anak-anak perempuan, dalam bahasa apa pun.

It's a word that's pretty much not used for little boys,

Kata itu tak banyak digunakan untuk anak-anak laki-laki,

because if a little boy leads, there's no negative word for it,

karena kalau anak laki-laki memimpin, tak ada kata negatif untuk itu,

it's expected. But if a little girl leads, she's bossy.

itu diharapkan. Tapi kalau anak perempuan memimpin, dia bossy.

Now I know there aren't a lot of men here, but bear with me.

Saya tahu tidak ada banyak pria di sini, tapi bersabarlah.

If you're a man, you'll have to represent your gender.

Kalau Anda pria, Anda harus mewakili gender Anda.

Please raise your hand if you've been told you're too aggressive at work.

Tolong angkat tangan jika Anda pernah disebut terlalu agresif di tempat kerja.

(Laughter) There's always a few, it runs about five percent. Okay, get ready, gentlemen.

(Tertawa) Selalu ada pengecualian, sekitar 5%. Oke, siap-siap, para pria.

If you're a woman, please raise your hand if you've ever been told you're too aggressive at work.

Para wanita, tolong angkat tangan jika pernah disebut agresif di tempat kerja.

(Laughter) That is what audiences have said in every country in the world,

(Tertawa) Inilah yang dikatakan hadirin saya di setiap negara di dunia,

and it's deeply supported by the data.

dan ini didukung oleh data-data yang ada.

Now, do we think women are more aggressive than men? Of course not.

Nah, apa kita menganggap wanita lebih agresif daripada pria? Tentu tidak.

It's just that we judge them through a different lens,

Hanya saja kita menilainya menggunakan lensa yang berbeda,

and a lot of the character traits that you must exhibit to perform at work, to get results, to lead,

dan banyak sifat yang harus Anda tunjukkan dalam bekerja, untuk mendapatkan hasil,

untuk memimpin, adalah sifat-sifat yang pada pria, kita sebut dia bosnya,

are ones that we think, in a man, he's a boss,

and in a woman, she's bossy.

dan pada wanita, dia bossy.

And the good news about this is that we can change this by acknowledging it.

Dan berita bagusnya adalah kita bisa mengubahnya dengan mengakuinya.

One of the happiest moments I had in this whole journey is,

Salah satu momen paling bahagia saya dalam perjalanan ini adalah,

after the book came out, I stood on a stage with John Chambers, the CEO of Cisco.

setelah buku saya keluar, saya berdiri di panggung dengan John Chambers, CEO Cisco.

He read the book. He stood on a stage with me, he invited me in front of his whole management team,

Dia sudah membaca bukunya. Dia mengundang saya ke hadapan seluruh tim manajemennya,

men and women, and he said, I thought we were good at this. I thought I was good at this.

pria dan wanita, dan katanya, saya pikir kami sudah bagus melakukannya dengan baik.

And then I read this book, and I realized that we -- my company --

Dan kemudian saya membaca buku ini, dan menyadari bahwa kami -- perusahaan saya --

we have called all of our senior women too aggressive,

kami pernah menyebut semua pegawai wanita senior disini agresif,

and I'm standing on this stage, and I'm sorry.

dan saya berdiri di panggung ini, menyesalinya.

And I want you to know we're never going to do it again.

Dan saya ingin kalian tahu kami tidak akan pernah melakukannya lagi.

PM: Can we send that to a lot of other people that we know? (Applause)

PM: Apakah kita bisa mengirim pesan itu pada orang-orang? (Tepuk tangan)

SS: And so John is doing that because he believes it's good for his company,

SS: John melakukannya karena ia percaya ini bagus untuk perusahaannya,

and so this kind of acknowledgement of these biases can change it.

pengakuan atas adanya bias seperti ini dapat mengubah keadaan.

And so next time you all see someone call a little girl "bossy,"

Jadi kali berikutnya Anda mendengar seseorang menyebut anak perempuan "bossy,"

you walk right up to that person, big smile, and you say,

datangi orang itu, senyum lebar, dan katakan,

"That little girl's not bossy. That little girl has executive leadership skills." (Laughter)

"Anak perempuan itu tidak bossy. Dia punya bakat pemimpin." (Tertawa)

PM: I know that's what you're telling your daughter. SS: Absolutely.

PM: Saya tahu itu yang Anda katakan pada putri Anda.

PM: And you did focus in the book -- and the reason, as you said, in writing it,

SS. Pasti.

PM: Dan Anda memang menekankannya di buku ini -- dan alasannya Anda adalah

was to create a dialogue about this.

untuk menghidupkan diskusi mengenainya.

I mean, let's just put it out there, face the fact that women are --

Mari kita utarakan saja keadaannya, fakta bahwa wanita --

in a time when we have more open doors, and more opportunities --

meski kita mempunyai lebih banyak kesempatan --

are still not getting to the leadership positions.

wanita masih tidak bisa menjabat posisi pemimpin.

So in the months that have come since the book,

Jadi beberapa bulan setelah buku Anda diterbitkan,

in which "Lean In" focused on that and said,

"Lean In" menekankan hal itu dan menyebutkan,

here are some of the challenges that remain, and many of them we have to own within ourselves

inilah beberapa tantangan yang masih ada,

dan kebanyakannya kita harus akui adalah salah kita sendiri dan refleksi diri.

and look at ourselves. What has changed?

Apa yang sudah berubah? Apakah Anda sudah melihat ada perubahan?

Have you seen changes?

SS: Well, there's certainly more dialogue, which is great.

SS: Pastinya ada lebih banyak dikusi, dan ini hebat.

But what really matters to me, and I think all of us, is action.

Tapi yang benar-benar penting bagi saya dan kita semua adalah tindakan.

So everywhere I go, CEOs, they're mostly men, say to me,

Kemanapun saya pergi, para CEO, kebanyakan pria, berkata

you're costing me so much money

Anda membuat saya mengeluarkan banyak uang

because all the women want to be paid as much as the men.

karena semua wanita ingin dibayar sama seperti para pria.

And to them I say, I'm not sorry at all. (Laughter)

Dan saya katakan pada mereka, saya sama sekali tidak menyesal. (Tertawa)

At all. I mean, the women should be paid as much as the men.

Sama sekali. Maksud saya, wanita sudah seharusnya dibayar setara.

Everywhere I go, women tell me they ask for raises.

Kemanapun saya pergi, para wanita berkata mereka minta kenaikan gaji.

Everywhere I go, women say they're getting better relationships with their spouses,

mereka berkata hubungan dengan pasangan membaik,

asking for more help at home, asking for the promotions they should be getting at work,

meminta lebih banyak bantuan di rumah, meminta promosi di tempat kerja,

and importantly, believing it themselves. Even little things.

dan yang penting, mereka juga mempercayainya. Bahkan hal-hal kecil.

One of the governors of one of the states told me that he didn't realize that more women were, in fact,

Salah satu gubernur negara bagian berkata dia tidak menyadari sebelumnya

literally sitting on the side of the room, which they are,

bahwa para wanita benar-benar duduk di sisi ruangan, yang mana terjadi,

and now he made a rule that all the women on his staff need to sit at the table.

dan sekarang dia membuat peraturan bahwa semua staf wanita harus duduk di meja.

The foundation I started along with the book "Lean In"

Yayasan yang saya mulai bersamaan dengan buku ini, "Lean In"

helps women, or men, start circles -- small groups,

membantu para wanita dan pria, untuk membentuk kelompok-kelompok kecil,

it can be 10, it can be however many you want, which meet once a month.

bisa jadi 10 orang atau berapa pun, bertemu sebulan sekali.

I would have hoped that by now, we'd have about 500 circles. That would've been great.

Saya harap sekarang sudah ada sekitar 500 kelompok. Benar-benar luar biasa.

You know, 500 times roughly 10.

Yah, kira-kira 500 kali 10.

There are over 12,000 circles in 50 countries in the world.

Ada lebih dari 12.000 kelompok di 50 negara di dunia.

PM: Wow, that's amazing.

PM: Wow, itu hebat.

SS: And these are people who are meeting every single month.

SS: Dan orang-orang ini bertemu setiap bulan.

I met one of them, I was in Beijing.

Saya bertemu salah satunya, ketika saya di Beijing.

A group of women, they're all about 29 or 30, they started the first Lean In circle in Beijing,

Sekelompok wanita berusia 30-an, kelompok Lean In pertama di Beijing,

several of them grew up in very poor, rural China.

beberapa orang tumbuh besar di pedalaman China yang masih sangat miskin.

These women are 29, they are told by their society that they are "left over,"

Para wanita ini berusia 29 tahun, dan masyarakat menyebut mereka "sisa,"

because they are not yet married,

karena mereka belum menikah,

and the process of coming together once a month at a meeting

dan dengan bertemu sebulan sekali

is helping them define who they are for themselves.

membantu mereka mendefinisikan jati diri mereka.

Karir seperti apa yang mereka inginkan.

What they want in their careers. The kind of partners they want, if at all.

Pasangan yang mereka inginkan, jika ada.

Saya melihat mereka, dan kami saling memperkenalkan diri,

I looked at them, we went around and introduced ourselves,

and they all said their names and where they're from,

dan mereka semua menyebutkan nama dan asal mereka,

and I said, I'm Sheryl Sandberg, and this was my dream.

dan saya bilang, saya Sheryl Sandberg, dan ini adalah impian saya.

And I kind of just started crying.

Dan saya agaknya mulai menangis.

Right, which, I admit, I do. Right? I've talked about it before.

Saya akui, saya menangis. Saya sudah pernah menceritakannya.

But the fact that a woman so far away out in the world, who grew up in a rural village,

Tapi fakta bahwa ada wanita di pelosok dunia, tumbuh besar di perkampungan,

who's being told to marry someone she doesn't want to marry,

yang disuruh menikahi seseorang yang tidak ingin dinikahinya,

sekarang bisa bertemu sekali sebulan dengan sekelompok orang dan berkata tidak,

can now go meet once a month with a group of people and refuse that,

and find life on her own terms.

dan menemukan kehidupan yang diinginkannya.

That's the kind of change we have to hope for.

Perubahan seperti inilah yang harus kita harapkan.

PM: Have you been surprised by the global nature of the message?

PM: Apakah Anda pernah merasa terkejut mengenai betapa globalnya pesan ini?

Because I think when the book first came out, many people thought,

Karena ketika buku ini pertama keluar, banyak orang berpikir bahwa

well, this is a really important handbook for young women on their way up.

buku ini adalah pegangan penting bagi wanita muda yang hendak maju.

They need to look at this, anticipate the barriers, and recognize them,

Mereka perlu membacanya, menyadari, dan mengantisipasi halangan yang ada,

put them out in the open, have the dialogue about it,

membahasnya secara terbuka dan terang-terangan,

but that it's really for women who are that. Doing that. Pursuing the corporate world.

tapi tergantung pada wanita yang melakukannya, dan memasuki dunia korporat.

And yet the book is being read, as you say, in rural and developing countries.

Dan buku ini dibaca, seperti yang Anda katakan, di negara-negara berkembang.

What part of that has surprised you, and perhaps led to a new perspective on your part?

Bagian mana yang mengejutkan Anda, dan membangun perspektif baru dalam diri Anda?

SS: The book is about self-confidence, and about equality.

SS: Buku ini bicara tentang rasa percaya diri dan kesetaraan.

And it turns out, everywhere in the world, women need more self-confidence,

Dan ternyata, dimana pun di dunia, wanita perlu menjadi lebih percaya diri,

because the world tells us we're not equal to men.

karena dunia mengatakan pada kita bahwa kita tidak setara pria.

Everywhere in the world, we live in a world where the men get "and,"

Kita hidup di dunia dimana pria mendapat "dan,"

dan wanita mendapat "atau".

and women get "or."

I've never met a man who's been asked how he does it all. (Laughter)

Saya tidak pernah bertemu pria yang pernah ditanya

bagaimana dia bisa melakukan semuanya. (Tertawa)

Again, I'm going to turn to the men in the audience:

Sekali lagi, saya akan bertanya pada para pria di sini:

Please raise your hand if you've been asked, how do you do it all?

Tolong angkat tangan bila Anda pernah ditanya seperti itu?

(Laughter)

(Tertawa)

Men only.

Para pria saja.

Women, women. Please raise your hand if you've been asked how you do it all?

Sekarang wanita. Siapa yang pernah mendapat pertanyaan ini?

We assume men can do it all, slash -- have jobs and children.

Kita berasumsi pria bisa melakukan semua, garis miring -- bekerja dan mengasuh anak.

We assume women can't, and that's ridiculous,

Kita berasumsi wanita tidak bisa, dan ini menggelikan,

because the great majority of women everywhere in the world, including the United States,

karena mayoritas wanita di mana pun di dunia, termasuk di AS,

work full time and have children.

bekerja penuh waktu dan punya anak.

And I think people don't fully understand how broad the message is.

Dan menurut saya orang-orang tidak sepenuhnya paham seberapa luas pesan ini.

There is a circle that's been started for rescued sex workers in Miami.

Ada kelompok yang dibentuk untuk para PSK yang diselamatkan di Miami.

They're using "Lean In" to help people make the transition

Mereka menggunakan "Lean In" untuk membantu mereka melalui transisi

back to what would be a fair life, really rescuing them from their pimps, and using it.

untuk kembali pada kehidupan normal, menyelamatkan mereka dari mucikari.

There are dress-for-success groups in Texas which are using the book,

Ada kelompok "bersiap-untuk-sukses" di Texas yang juga menggunakan buku ini,

for women who have never been to college.

untuk wanita yang tidak pernah duduk di perguruan tinggi.

And we know there are groups all the way to Ethiopia.

Dan kami tahu ada kelompok-kelompok "Lean In" bahkan di Ethiopia.

And so these messages of equality -- of how women are told they can't have what men can have --

Pesan mengenai kesetaraan ini --

bahwa para wanita diberitahu tidak bisa memiliki yang dimiliki pria --

how we assume that leadership is for men, how we assume that voice is for men,

bagaimana kita mengasumsikan bahwa kepemimpinan adalah untuk pria,

bersuara adalah untuk pria,

these affect all of us, and I think they are very universal.

ini mempengaruhi kita semua, dan menurut saya ini sangat universal.

And it's part of what TEDWomen does.

Dan ini adalah bagian dari tugas TEDWomen.

It unites all of us in a cause we have to believe in,

Menyatukan kita semua untuk suatu alasan yang harus kita percayai,

which is more women, more voice, more equality.

yaitu kita perlu lebih banyak wanita, lebih banyak suara, dan kesetaraan.

PM: If you were invited now to make another TEDWomen talk,

PM: Kalau Anda diundang lagi sekarang untuk berbicara di hadapan TEDWomen,

what would you say that is a result of this experience, for you personally,

apa yang dapat Anda katakan tentang pengalaman ini, bagi Anda pribadi,

dan apa yang sudah Anda pelajari tentang wanita, dan pria,

and what you've learned about women, and men,

as you've made this journey?

sepanjang perjalanan Anda?

SS: I think I would say -- I tried to say this strongly,

SS: Saya rasa -- saya berusaha untuk mengatakannya dengan tegas,

but I think I can say it more strongly --

tapi rasanya saya bisa mengatakannya dengan lebih tegas lagi --

I want to say that the status quo is not enough.

saya ingin bilang bahwa status quo tidak cukup.

That it's not good enough, that it's not changing quickly enough.

Dan tidak cukup bagus, dan tidak berubah cukup cepat.

Since I gave my TED Talk and published my book, another year of data came out from the U.S. Census.

Sejak TED Talk saya dan buku saya terbit,

data tahunan terbaru dikeluarkan oleh Badan Sensus AS.

And you know what we found?

Dan Anda tahu apa yang kami temukan?

No movement in the wage gap for women in the United States.

Tidak ada perubahan dalam kesenjangan pendapatan wanita di AS.

Seventy-seven cents to the dollar.

77 sen banding 1 dolar.

If you are a black woman, 64 cents.

Kalau Anda wanita kulit hitam, 64 sen.

If you are a Latina, we're at 54 cents.

Kalau Anda wanita Latin, 54 sen.

Do you know when the last time those numbers went up?

Anda tahu kapan terakhir kali angka-angka itu naik?

2002.

2002.

We are stagnating, we are stagnating in so many ways.

KIta berada dalam kondisi stagnan, dalam berbagai hal.

And I think we are not really being honest about that,

Dan menurut saya kita tidak sepenuhnya jujur mengenai hal ini,

for so many reasons. It's so hard to talk about gender.

karena berbagai alasan, sangat sulit untuk membahas kesetaraan gender.

We shy away from the word "feminist," a word I really think we need to embrace.

Kita segan menggunakan kata "feminis," yang menurut saya perlu kita pegang.

We have to get rid of the word bossy and bring back --

Kita perlu mengenyahkan kata bossy dan mengembalikan --

(Applause)

(Tepuk tangan)

I think I would say in a louder voice, we need to get rid of the word "bossy"

Saya akan mengatakannya dengan lantang, kita perlu mengenyahkan kata "bossy"

and bring back the word "feminist," because we need it.

dan mengembalikan kata "feminis," karena kita membutuhkannya.

(Applause)

(Tepuk tangan)

PM: And we all need to do a lot more leaning in.

PM: Dan kita semua perlu menjadi lebih terlibat.

SS: A lot more leaning in.

SS: Jauh lebih terlibat.

PM: Thank you, Sheryl.

PM: Terima kasih, Sheryl.

Thanks for leaning in and saying yes.

Terima kasih telah terlibat dan bersedia berbicara.

SS: Thank you.

SS: Terima kasih.

(Applause)

(Tepuk tangan)