Rogier van der Heide: Why light needs darkness

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Na ekranu je prelijepa izjava

There's a beautiful statement on the screen that says,

koja kaže "Svjetlost stvara ambijent,

"Light creates ambiance, light makes the feel of a space,

svjetlost stvara osjećaj prostora,

a svjetlost je također i izraz strukture."

and light is also the expression of structure."

Well, that was not by me.

Ova izreka ipak nije moja.

That was, of course, by Le Corbusier, the famous architect.

Potječe naravno od Le Corbusiera,

poznatog arhitekta.

And here you can see what he meant in one of his beautiful buildings --

A ovdje možete vidjeti što je pod tim mislio

na jednoj od njegovih prelijepih građevina --

the chapel Notre Dame Du Haut De Ronchamp --

kapela Notre Dame du Haut Ronchamp --

where he creates this light that he could only make because there's also dark.

u kojoj stvara osvjetljenje

koje je mogao stvoriti jedino zato što tamo postoji i tama.

Mislim da je to suština

And I think that is the quintessence of this 18-minute talk --

ovog 18-minutnog govora --

that there is no good lighting that is healthy and for our well-being

da nema dobrog osvjetljenja

koje je zdravo i za našu dobrobit

without proper darkness.

bez odgovarajuće tame.

So this is how we normally would light our offices.

Dakle, ovako bismo inače osvijetlili naše urede.

We have codes and standards that tell us that the lights should be so much Lux

Imamo norme i standarde

koji nam kažu da bi rasvjeta trebala imati određeni luks

and of great uniformity.

i da bi trebala biti velike ujednačenosti.

Ovako stvaramo ujednačeno osvjetljenje

This is how we create uniform lighting from one wall to the other

od jednog zida do drugog

u uobičajenoj mreži lampi.

in a regular grid of lamps.

And that is quite different from what I just showed you

A to je sasvim drugačije

od ovoga što sam vam upravo pokazao

from Le Corbusier.

od Le Corbusiera.

If we would apply these codes and standards

Ako bismo primijenili ove norme i standarde

na Pantheon u Rimu,

to the Pantheon in Rome,

it would never have looked like this,

nikada ne bi izgledao ovako,

because this beautiful light feature that goes around there all by itself

zato što se ova prelijepa značajka svjetla

koja se širi sama od sebe

može pojaviti jedino

can only appear because there is also darkness in that same building.

zato što u toj istoj građevini postoji i tama.

And the same is more or less what Santiago Calatrava said

I više-manje to je isto ono što je rekao i Santiago Calatrava

when he said, "Light: I make it in my buildings for comfort."

kad je rekao: "Svjetlost, stvorio sam ga u mojim građevinama

radi udobnosti."

And he didn't mean the comfort of a five-course dinner

A on nije mislio na udobnost bogate večere

as opposed to a one-course meal,

u odnosu na jedan običan obrok,

but he really meant the comfort

nego je mislio na stvarnu udobnost

of the quality of the building for the people.

kvalitete građevine za ljude.

He meant that you can see the sky and that you can experience the sun.

Mislio je na to da možete vidjeti nebo

i da možete osjetiti sunce.

And he created these gorgeous buildings where you can see the sky,

Zato je izgradio te veličanstvene građevine

u kojima možete vidjeti nebo

and where you can experience the sun,

i doživjeti sunce,

that give us a better life in the built environment,

što nam pruža bolji život u izgrađenom okruženju,

i to zbog značaja osvjetljenja

just because of the relevance of light in its brightness and also in its shadows.

u svojem svjetlu i u svojim sjenama.

And what it all boils down to is, of course, the sun.

Sve se svodi, naravno, na sunce.

Ova slika sunca može sugerirati

And this image of the Sun may suggest

da je sunce štogod loše i agresivno.

that the Sun is something evil and aggressive,

but we should not forget

Ali ne bismo trebali zaboraviti da sva energija na ovom planetu

that all energy on this planet actually comes from the Sun,

zapravo potječe od sunca.

and light is only a manifestation of that energy.

Svjetlo je samo manifestacija

te energije.

The sun is for dynamics, for color changes.

Sunce je za dinamiku, za promjene boja,

sunce je za ljepotu u našem okruženju,

The sun is for beauty in our environment,

kao u ovoj zgradi --

like in this building -- the High Museum in Atlanta,

Veliki muzej u Atlanti,

which has been created by Renzo Piano from Italy,

koji je projektirao Renzo Piano iz Italije

zajedno s Arupom Lightingom,

together with Arup Lighting, a brilliant team of lighting designers,

fantastični tim dizajnera osvjetljenja

who created a very subtle modulation of light across the space,

koji su kreirali

vrlo suptilnu modulaciju svjetla

u prostoriji,

responding to what the sun does outside,

odgovarajući na ponašanje sunca izvana,

just because of all these beautiful openings in the roof.

zahvaljujući ovim predivnim otvorima na krovu.

So in an indirect way, you can see the sun.

Zato, na indirektan način,

možete vidjeti sunce.

And what they did is they created an integral building element

A ono što su učinili

je da su stvorili jedan sastavni dio zgrade

to improve the quality of the space that surrounds the visitors of the museum.

da poboljšaju kvalitetu prostora

koja okružuje posjetitelje muzeja.

Stvorili su sjenu

They created this shade that you can see here,

koju ovdje možete vidjeti,

which actually covers the sun,

koja zapravo prekriva sunce,

ali se otvara prema dobroj svjetlosti s neba.

but opens up to the good light from the sky.

A ovdje možete vidjeti

And here you can see how they really crafted a beautiful design process

kako su prelijepo projektirali

s maketama

with physical models,

with quantitative as well as qualitative methods,

s kvantitetnim kao i s kvalitetnim metodama

to come to a final solution that is truly integrated

da bi došli do završnog rezultata

koji je uistinu integriran i potpuno cjelovit

and completely holistic with the architecture.

s arhitekturom.

They allowed themselves a few mistakes along the way.

Usput su sebi dozvolili nekoliko pogrešaka.

As you can see here, there's some direct light on the floor,

Kao što možete vidjeti ovdje, postoji direktna svjetlost na podu,

pa su mogli lako zaključiti odakle potiče.

but they could easily figure out where that comes from.

I dozvoljavaju ljudima u toj zgradi

And they allow people in that building to really enjoy the sun,

da stvarno uživaju u suncu,

u dobrom dijelu sunca.

the good part of the sun.

A uživanje u suncu

And enjoying the sun can be in many different ways, of course.

može naravno biti različito.

It can be just like this,

Može biti ovako,

or maybe like this, which is rather peculiar,

ili možda ovako, što je dosta čudno,

but this is in 1963 --

ali ovo je 1963. --

promatranje pomrčine sunca

the viewing of a sun eclipse in the United States.

u SAD-u.

A samo je mala količina svjetla gore,

And it's just a bit bright up there,

so these people have found a very intriguing solution.

tako da su oni našli jedno intrigantno rješenje.

This is, I think, a very illustrative image of what I try to say --

Ovo je, mislim, vrlo ilustrativni prikaz onoga što pokušavam reći --

da prelijepa dinamičnost sunca,

that the beautiful dynamics of sun, bringing these into the building,

donoseći ove nijanse u građevine,

stvara kvalitetu našeg izgrađenog okruženja

creates a quality of our built environment that truly enhances our lives.

koje zaista poboljšava naše živote.

And this is all about darkness

A ovo je sve o tami

koliko i o svjetlu, naravno,

as much as it is about lightness, of course,

jer u suprotnom se ova dinamika ne može vidjeti.

because otherwise you don't see these dynamics.

As opposed to the first office

Suprotno od prvog ureda koji sam vam pokazao

that I showed you in the beginning of the talk,

ne početku govora,

this is a well-known office, which is the Weidt Group.

ovo je poznata kancelarija koja se zove White Group.

They are in green energy consulting, or something like that.

Oni su konzultanti za "zelenu" energiju ili nešto slično tome.

And they really practice what they preach

Oni stvarno rade ono što govore,

because this office doesn't have any electric lighting at all.

zato ova kancelarija nema nikakvo električno osvjetljenje.

It has only, on one side, this big, big glass window

Samo na jednoj strani ima

ovaj veliki, veliki prozor

that helps to let the sunlight enter deep into the space

koji dozvoljava ulazak sunčeve svjetlosti

duboko u prostor

and create a beautiful quality there and a great dynamic range.

i stvara prelijepu kvalitetu i veliki raspon intenziteta svjetlosti.

So it can be very dim over there, and you do your work,

Dakle može biti vrlo slabo osvjetljenje a vi radite svoj posao,

and it can be very bright over there, and you do your work.

a može biti i vrlo svijetlo a vi radite svoj posao.

But actually, the human eye turns out to be remarkably adaptable

Ali u stvari ljudsko oko

može biti izuzetno prilagodljivo

to all these different light conditions that together create an environment

na različite svjetlosne uvjete

koji zajedno stvaraju okruženje

that is never boring and that is never dull,

koje nikad nije dosadno ni tmurno,

and therefore helps us to enhance our lives.

i zato nam pomaže da poboljšamo naše živote.

I really owe a short introduction of this man to you.

Dugujem vam kratak uvod o ovom čovjeku.

This is Richard Kelly who was born 100 years ago,

Ovo je Richard Kelly

koji je rođen prije 100 godina,

which is the reason I bring him up now, because it's kind of an anniversary year.

što je razlog zbog čega ga sada spominjem,

zato što je neka vrsta godišnjice.

In the 1930s, Richard Kelly was the first person to really describe

Godine 1930. Richard Kelly bio je prva osoba

koja je stvarno opisala

a methodology of modern lighting design.

metodologiju modernog dizajna osvjetljenja.

And he coined three terms,

On je uzeo tri termina,

which are "focal glow," "ambient luminescence"

koji su " fokusni sjaj",

"ambijentalna luminescencija"

and "play of the brilliants" --

i " igra briljanata"

three very distinctly different ideas about light in architecture

kroz vrlo različite

ideje o svjetlosti u arhitekturi

that all together make up this beautiful experience.

koje u cjelini

stvaraju ovo prelijepo iskustvo.

So to begin with, focal glow.

Znači počinjete s fokusnim sjajem.

He meant something like this --

Mislio je na nešto kao ovo --

where the light gives direction to the space

gdje svjetlost daje pravac prostoru

and helps you to get around.

i pomaže vam da kružite.

Or something like this,

Ili nešto ovako, što je njegov dizajn osvjetljenja

which is the lighting design he did for General Motors,

za General Motors, za salon automobila.

for the car showroom.

Kada uđete u taj prostor,

And you enter that space,

and you feel like, "Wow! This is so impressive,"

osjećate se kao: "Vau! Ovo je tako impresivno!",

just because of this focal point, this huge light source in the middle.

baš zbog ove središnje točke,

zbog velikog izvora svjetlosti u sredini.

Za mene to je nešto iz kazališta,

To me, it is something from theater,

and I will get back to that a little bit later.

i na to ću se vratiti malo poslije.

It's the spotlight on the artist that helps you to focus.

Stavljanje akcenta na umjetnika

pomaže nam u fokusiranju.

It could also be the sunlight that breaks through the clouds

To također može biti sunčeva svjetlost koja se probija kroz oblake

and lights up a patch of the land,

i osvjetljava dio zemlje,

highlighting it compared to the dim environment.

naglašavajući je

u usporedbi s prigušenim okruženjem.

Or it can be in today's retail, in the shopping environment --

Ili to može biti u današnjim dućanima, u okruženju za kupovinu --

osvjetljavajući proizvode

lighting the merchandise and creating accents that help you to get around.

i stavljajući naglaske koji vam pomažu u snalaženju.

Ambient luminescence is something very different.

Ambijentalna luminescencija je nešto sasvim drugo.

Richard Kelly saw it as something infinite,

Richard Kelly ju je vidio kao štogod beskonačno,

something without any focus,

štogod bez fokusa,

something where all details actually dissolve in infinity.

štogod gdje se svi detalji

ustvari rastvaraju u beskonačnost.

And I see it as a very comfortable kind of light that really helps us to relax

I ja to vidim kao jednu vrlo udobnu vrstu svjetlosti

koja nam pomaže da se opustimo

i meditiramo.

and to contemplate.

It could also be something like this:

Može također biti i štogod ovakvog:

the National Museum of Science in London,

Nacionalni muzej znanosti u Londonu,

where this blue is embracing all the exhibitions and galleries

gdje ova plava

grli sve izložbe i galerije

in one large gesture.

u jednoj velikoj gesti.

And then finally,

I konačno, Kellyjev stav o igri brilijanata.

Kelly's play of brilliants added to that

Kao stvarna igra linije horizonta Hong Konga,

really some play, I think, of the skyline of Hong Kong,

or perhaps the chandelier in the opera house,

ili možda lustera u operi,

or in the theater here,

ili ovdje u kazalištu,

which is the decoration, the icing on the cake, something playful,

gdje je dekoracija,

šlag na torti, nešto razigrano,

something that is just an addition to the architectural environment,

nešto što je samo dodatak

arhitektonskom okruženju, rekao bih.

I would say.

These three distinct elements, together,

Ova tri različita elementa,

zajedno stvaraju svjetlosno okruženje

make a lighting environment that helps us to feel better.

koje nam pomaže da se osjećamo bolje.

And we can only create these out of darkness.

A njih možemo stvoriti samo iz tame.

I to ću dalje obrazložiti.

And I will explain that further.

And I guess that is something that Richard Kelly, here on the left,

I pretpostavljam da je to ono što je Richard Kelly, ovdje slijeva,

was explaining to Ludwig Mies van Der Rohe.

objašnjavao Ludwigu Miesu Van der Roheu.

And behind them, you see that Seagram Building

A iza njih vidite zgradu Seagram

koja se poslije pretvorila u

that later turned into an icon of modern lighting design.

ikonu modernog dizajna osvjetljenja.

Those times, there were some early attempts

U to vrijeme bilo je i ranih pokušaja

svjetlosne terapije.

also for light therapy already.

You can see here a photo

Ovdje možete vidjeti fotografiju iz Medicinske biblioteke Sjedinjenih Država,

from the United States Library of Medicine,

where people are put in the sun to get better.

gdje su ljudi izloženi suncu radi oporavka.

Malo je drugačija priča

It's a little bit of a different story, this health aspect of light,

ova zdravstvena strana svjetlosti

than what I'm telling you today.

o kojoj vam danas govorim.

In today's modern medicine,

U suvremenoj medicini

postoji stvarno razumijevanje svjetlosti

there is a real understanding of light in an almost biochemical way.

na skoro biokemijski način.

And there is the idea that, when we look at things,

I postoji ideja

da kada promatramo stvari

žuta svjetlost nam najviše pomaže

it is the yellow light that helps us the most,

that we are the most sensitive for.

i na nju smo najosjetljiviji.

But our circadian rhythms,

Ali nam biološki ritam,

ritam koji nam pomaže da se probudimo i da spavamo,

which are the rhythms that help us to wake and sleep

da smo oprezni, i opušteni, i tako dalje,

and be alert and relaxed and so forth and so on,

they are much more triggered by blue light.

više pokreće plava svjetlost.

And by modulating the amount of blue in our environment,

I modificirajući količinu plave

u našem okruženju,

we can help people to relax, or to be alert,

možemo pomoći ljudima da se opuste ili da budu oprezni,

da usnu ili da ostanu budni.

to fall asleep, or to stay awake.

And that is how, maybe in the near future, light can help hospitals

I na ovaj način,

možda u skoroj budućnosti,

svjetlost može pomoći bolnicama

to make people better sooner, recover them quicker.

da ljudi brže ozdrave,

i da se brže oporave.

Maybe in the airplane, we can overcome jet lag like that.

Možda u avionu

možemo na taj način pobijediti jet leg.

Perhaps in school, we can help children to learn better

Možda bismo u školi mogli pomoći djeci da bolje uče

zato što bi se bolje koncentrirala na rad.

because they concentrate more on their work.

And you can imagine a lot more applications.

Mogli biste zamisliti još brojne druge mogućnosti primjene.

But I would like to talk further

Ali nadalje bih htio govoriti

about the combination of light and darkness

o kombinaciji

svjetla i tame

kao kvalitete u našem životu.

as a quality in our life.

So light is, of course, for social interaction also --

Svjetlost je, naravno, za društvenu interakciju također --

za ostvarivanje odnosa

to create relationships with all the features around us.

sa svim karakteristikama oko nas.

It is the place where we gather around

To je mjesto oko kojeg se okupljamo

when we have to say something to each other.

kada jedan drugom imamo štogod za reći.

And it is all about this planet.

I sve je ovo o ovom planetu.

But when you look at this planet at night,

Ali kada ovaj planet pogledate noću, on izgleda ovako.

it looks like this.

I držim da je ovo najšokantnija slika

And I think this is the most shocking image in my talk today.

u mom današnjem izlaganju.

Because all this light here goes up to the sky.

Zato što sva ova svjetlost ovdje

odlazi u nebo.

It never reaches the ground where it was meant for.

Nikad ne doseže tla

gdje je namijenjena.

It never is to the benefit of people.

Nikad nije u korist ljudi.

It only spoils the darkness.

Samo kvari tamu.

So at a global scale, it looks like this.

Tako da na globalnoj skali izgleda ovako.

And, I mean, that is quite amazing, what you see here --

I smatram da je zaista fascinantno ovo što možete vidjeti ovdje --

how much light goes up into the sky and never reaches the ground.

kolika količina svjetlosti odlazi u nebo

i nikad ne doseže zemlju.

Because if we look at the Earth the way it should be,

Zato što ako gledamo Zemlju kakva bi trebala biti,

it would be something like this very inspiring image

bila bi to ovakva inspirativna slika

where darkness is for our imagination and for contemplation

gdje je tama za našu maštu,

i za razmišljanje,

and to help us to relate to everything.

i pomaže nam da se povežemo sa svim.

Ipak svijet se mijenja

The world is changing though,

and urbanization is a big driver of everything.

i urbanizacija je veliki pokretač svega.

Ovo sam fotografirao prije dvije nedjelje u Guangzhou,

I took this photo two weeks ago in Guangzhou,

and I realized that 10 years ago,

i shvatio sam da prije 10 godina,

there was nothing like this, of these buildings.

nije bilo ničeg sličnog ovim zgradama.

It was just a much smaller city,

To je bio mnogo manji grad

i da je tempo urbanizacije

and the pace of urbanization is incredible and enormous.

nevjerojatan i enorman.

And we have to understand these main questions:

I moramo shvatiti ova glavna pitanja:

How do people move through these new urban spaces?

Kako se ljudi kreću kroz te nove urbane prostore?

Kako dijele svoju kulturu?

How do they share their culture?

How do we tackle things like mobility?

Kako se hvatamo u koštac sa stvarima poput mobilnosti?

I kako nam svjetlo tu može pomoći?

And how can light help there?

Zato što nove tehnologije,

Because the new technologies,

they seem to be in a really interesting position

čini se da su u vrlo interesantnoj poziciji

to contribute to the solutions of urbanization

da doprinesu rješenjima urbanizacije

i da nam pruže bolje uvjete.

and to provide us with better environments.

Ne tako davno

It's not that long ago

that our lighting was just done with these kinds of lamps.

naše je osvjetljenje bilo postavljeno

s ovim vrstama lampi.

And of course, we had the metal-halide lamps

I naravno, imali smo halogene lampe i fluorescentne lampe

and fluorescent lamps and things like that.

i slično.

Now we have LED,

Sada imamo LED,

but here you see the latest one, and you see how incredibly small it is.

ali ovdje vidite najnoviju,

i vidite kako je nevjerojatno mala.

And this is exactly what offers us a unique opportunity,

I ovo nam zaista pruža jedinstvenu priliku,

zato što nam ove vrlo, vrlo male lampe

because this tiny, tiny size allows us

dozvoljavaju da postavimo svjetlo tamo gdje nam je zaista potrebno.

to put the light wherever we really need it.

And we can actually leave it out where it's not needed at all

A tamo gdje ga ne trebamo, gdje treba ostati tama,

možemo ga izbjeći.

and where we can preserve darkness.

Dakle, smatram da je ovo jako interesantan prijedlog,

So that is a really interesting proposition, I think,

and a new way of lighting the architectural environment

i nov način osvjetljenja arhitektonskog prostora

imajući na umu naše zdravlje.

with our well-being in mind.

The problem is, though, that I wanted to explain to you how this really works --

Problem je u tome što vam želim objasniti kako ovo stvarno funkcionira --

ali mogu imati četiri ovakve na mom prstu,

but I can have four of these on my finger,

pa ih vi ne biste mogli vidjeti.

so you would not be able to really see them.

So I asked our laboratory to do something about it,

Tražio sam od našeg laboratorija da učine nešto po tom pitanju

i oni su rekli: "Dobro, učinit ćemo nešto."

and they said, "Well, we can do something."

Napravili su za mene najveću LED na svijetu

They created for me the biggest LED in the world

especially for TEDx in Amsterdam.

specijalno za TEDx u Amsterdamu.

So here it is.

Dakle evo je.

It's the same thing as you can see over there --

To je ista stvar koju možete vidjeti tamo -- samo 200 puta veća.

just 200 times bigger.

Brzo ću vam pokazati kako radi.

And I will very quickly show you how it works.

So just to explain.

Dakle samo da objasnim.

Now, every LED that is made these days gives blue light.

Svaka LED koji se danas proizvodi

daje plavo svjetlo.

Now, this is not very pleasant and comfortable.

To nije baš ugodno.

I iz tog razloga,

And for that reason, we cover the LED with a phosphor cap.

prekrivamo LED

fosfornim poklopcem.

And the phosphor is excited by the blue

Fosfor je stimuliran plavom svjetlošću

and makes the light white and warm and pleasant.

i proizvodi svjetlost koja je bijela, topla i ugodna.

And then when you add the lens to that,

I kad tome dodate leću,

you can bundle the light and send it wherever you need it

svjetlost možete poslati gdje god poželite

without any need to spill any light to the sky or anywhere else.

bez ikakve potrebe da prosipate svjetlost

prema nebu ili bilo gdje drugdje.

So you can preserve the darkness and make the light.

Tako da možete sačuvati tamu i stvoriti svjetlost.

I just wanted to show that to you so you understand how this works.

To sam vam samo želio pokazati

da biste shvatili kako funkcionira.

(Applause)

Thank you.

Hvala.

(Applause)

Možemo nastaviti.

We can go further.

So we have to rethink the way we light our cities.

Možemo preispitati način na koji osvjetljavamo gradove.

We have to think again about light as a default solution.

Moramo još jednom razmisliti

o svjetlu kao rješenju koje se podrazumijeva.

Zašto su autoceste trajno osvijetljene?

Why are all these motorways permanently lit?

Je li to zaista potrebno?

Is it really needed?

Can we maybe be much more selective

Možemo li biti selektivniji

and create better environments that also benefit from darkness?

i stvarati bolja okruženja koja će imati korist i od tame?

Možemo li biti pažljiviji prema svjetlu?

Can we be much more gentle with light?

Kao ovdje -- ovo je zapravo vrlo mali svjetlosni nivo.

Like here -- this is a very low light level actually.

Možemo li ljude više angažirati

Can we engage people more in the lighting projects that we create,

u projektima osvjetljenja koje stvaramo,

so they really want to connect with it, like here?

da se požele zaista povezati s tim, kao ovdje?

Or can we create simply sculptures

Ili možemo izrađivati skulpture

that are very inspiring to be in and to be around?

u kojima i oko kojih je biti vrlo inspirativno?

And can we preserve the darkness?

Možemo li sačuvati tamu?

Because to find a place like this today on Earth

Zato što je naći neko ovakvo mjesto na Zemlji danas

is really very, very challenging.

stvarno vrlo, vrlo izazovno.

And to find a starry sky like this is even more difficult.

I naći ovakvo zvjezdano nebo je još teže.

Čak i u oceanima stvaramo dosta svjetla

Even in the oceans, we are creating a lot of light

koje bismo također mogli smanjiti za zaštitu zdravlja

that we could actually ban

also for animal life to have a much greater well-being.

životinjskog svijeta.

Poznato je da ptice selice, na primjer,

And it's known that migrating birds, for example, get very disoriented

postaju vrlo dezorijentirane

because of these offshore platforms.

zbog ovih naftnih platformi.

And we discovered that when we make those lights green,

I otkrili smo da kada ta svjetla osvijetlimo u zeleno,

ptice, zaista mogu letjeti pravim putem.

the birds, they actually go the right way.

Više nisu uznemirene.

They are not disturbed anymore.

And it turns out once again

I ponovno ispada

that spectral sensitivity is very important here.

da je spektralna osjetljivost

ovdje jako bitna.

I u svim ovim primjerima smatram

In all of these examples, I think,

we should start making the light out of darkness,

da bismo trebali početi stvarati svjetlost iz tame,

and use the darkness as a canvas -- like the visual artists do,

i koristiti tamu kao platno --

kao što je to slučaj kod vizualnih umjetnika,

like Edward Hopper in this painting.

kao Edward Hopper na ovoj slici.

I think that there is a lot of suspense in this painting.

Mislim da postoji mnogo neizvjesnosti na ovoj slici.

I think, when I see it, I start to think, who are those people?

Mislim, kada je vidim,

počinjem misliti, tko su ovi ljudi?

Where have they come from? Where are they going?

Odakle su došli? Kamo idu?

Što se upravo dogodilo? Što će se događati u narednih pet minuta?

What just happened?

What will be happening in the next five minutes?

I sve te priče i neizvjesnost dolaze do izražaja samo

And it only embodies all these stories and all this suspense

zbog svjetla i tame.

because of the darkness and the light.

Edward Hopper bio je veliki majstor

Edward Hopper was a real master

u stvaranju naracije

in creating the narration by working with light and dark.

radeći sa svjetlom i tamom.

And we can learn from that

I mi možemo učiti na tome

and create more interesting and inspiring architectural environments.

i stvarati interesantnije i inspirativnije arhitektonske sredine.

We can do that in commercial spaces like this.

Možemo to raditi u komercijalnim prostorima ovako.

And you can still also go outside

I dalje možete izaći

i uživati u najvećoj predstavi u univerzumu,

and enjoy the greatest show in the universe,

a ti je, naravno, sam univerzum.

which is, of course, the universe itself.

So I give you this wonderful, informative image of the sky,

Dakle, predstavljam vam ovu fantastičnu, informativnu

sliku neba

ranging from the inner city,

počevši od centra grada

where you may see one or two stars and nothing else,

gdje možete vidjeti jednu ili dvije zvijezde i ništa više

sve do ruralnih sredina

all the way to the rural environments,

gdje možete uživati

where you can enjoy this great and gorgeous and beautiful performance

u ovom fantastičnom i prelijepom performansu

of the constellations and the stars.

sazviježđa i zvijezda.

U arhitekturi to jednako funkcionira.

In architecture, it works just the same.

By appreciating the darkness when you design the light,

Cijeneći tamu kada dizajnirate osvjetljenje,

stvarate interesantnija okruženja

you create much more interesting environments

that truly enhance our lives.

koja zaista poboljšavaju naše živote.

This is the most well-known example, Tadao Ando's Church of the Light.

Ovo je najpoznatiji primjer

Tadao Andova Crkva svjetlosti.

But I also think of Peter Zumthor's spa in Vals,

Ali također mislim i na

liječilište Petera Zumthora u Valsu,

where light and dark, in very gentle combinations,

gdje svjetlost i tama, u jako nježnim kombinacijama

alter each other to define the space.

mijenjaju jedan drugog da bi definirali prostor.

Or Richard MacCormac's Southwark tube station in London,

Ili Južna postaja podzemne željeznice u Londonu od Richarda McCormacka,

gdje zaista možete vidjeti nebo,

where you can really see the sky, even though you are under the ground.

iako ste ispod zemlje.

And finally, I want to point out

I konačno želim naznačiti

that a lot of this inspiration comes from theater.

da dosta inspiracije potiče iz kazališta.

And I think it's fantastic that we are today experiencing TEDx

I smatram da je fantastično da se danas po prvi put

in a theater for the first time

TEDx održava u kazalištu,

because I think we really owe to the theater a big thanks.

zato što mislim da kazalištu zaista mnogo dugujemo.

It wouldn't be such an inspiring scenography

Scenografija ne bi bila toliko inspirativna

bez kazališta.

without this theater.

And I think the theater is a place where we truly enhance life with light.

I smatram da je kazalište mjesto

na kojem pomoću svjetlosti zaista poboljšavamo život.

Mnogo vam hvala.

Thank you very much.

(Applause)

(Pljesak)