David Deutsch: Chemical scum that dream of distant quasars

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Prevoditelj: Stjepan Mateljan Recezent: Ivan Stamenković
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We've been told to go out on a limb and say something surprising.
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Rečeno nam je neka se ohrabrimo i kažemo nešto iznenađujuće.
00:30
So I'll try and do that,
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pa ću to i pokušati,
00:32
but I want to start with two things that everyone already knows.
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ali htio bih početi sa dvije stvari koje svi već znaju.
00:38
And the first one, in fact, is something that has been known
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Prva je , zapravo nešto što se zna
00:41
for most of recorded history,
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kroz većinu pisane povijesti,
00:45
and that is, that the planet Earth, or the solar system,
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a to je kako je planet Zemlja, ili sunčev sustav,
00:49
or our environment or whatever,
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ili naše okružje ili kako god,
00:52
is uniquely suited to sustain our evolution --
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jedinstveno ugođen kako bi podržao naš razvoj --
00:59
or creation, as it used to be thought --
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ili stvaranje, kako se nekad mislilo --
01:02
and our present existence, and most important, our future survival.
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i naše trenutno postojanje, te najvažnije, naše buduće preživljavanje.
01:09
Nowadays, this idea has a dramatic name: Spaceship Earth.
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Danas ta ideja ima dramatično ime: Svemirski brod Zemlja.
01:13
And the idea there is that outside the spaceship,
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A ideja je kako izvan svemirskog broda,
01:16
the universe is implacably hostile,
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svemir je neumoljivo neprijateljski,
01:19
and inside is all we have, all we depend on,
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dok je unutra sve što imamo, sve o čemu ovisimo,
01:23
and we only get the one chance: if we mess up our spaceship,
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te imamo samo jednu priliku: ako udesimo naš svemirski brod,
01:26
we've got nowhere else to go.
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nemamo ići gdje drugdje.
01:28
Now, the second thing that everyone already knows
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Sad, druga stvar koju svi već znaju
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is that, contrary to what was believed for most of human history,
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je kako, obrnuto od onog što smo vjerovali kroz ljudsku povijest,
01:36
human beings are not, in fact, the hub of existence.
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ljudska bića nisu, zapravo, centar postojanja.
01:42
As Stephen Hawking famously said,
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Kako je Stephen Hawking slavno rekao,
01:44
we're just a chemical scum on the surface of a typical planet
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samo smo kemijska skrama na površini tipičnog planeta
01:49
that's in orbit around a typical star,
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koji je u orbiti oko tipične zvijezde,
01:51
which is on the outskirts of a typical galaxy, and so on.
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koja je na periferiji tipične galaksije, i tako dalje.
01:56
Now, the first of those two things that everyone knows is kind of saying
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Sad, prva od ove dvije stvari koje svi znaju na neki način govori
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that we're at a very untypical place, uniquely suited and so on.
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kako smo na vrlo netipičnom mjestu, jedinstveno ugođenom i tako dalje,
a druga govori kako smo na tipičnom mjestu.
02:07
And the second one is saying that we're at a typical place.
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02:09
And, especially if you regard these two as deep truths to live by
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Te, posebno ako se odnosite prema tim dvjema kao dubokim istinama
02:14
and to inform your life decisions,
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po kojima se ravnate i donosite životne odluke,
02:17
then they seem a little bit to conflict with each other.
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onda se čine kao pomalo u konfliktu jedna sa drugom.
02:23
But that doesn't prevent them from both being completely false.
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Ali to ih ne sprječava da obje budu potpuno krive.
02:28
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
02:30
And they are.
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A jesu.
02:32
So let me start with the second one: typical.
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Pa dajte da krene od druge:
"Tipično." Dobro, je li ovo tipično mjesto?
02:39
Well, is this a typical place?
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02:42
Well, let's look around, you know, look in a random direction,
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Dobro, Pogledajmo uokolo, znate, pogledajmo u nasumičnom pravcu,
02:45
and we see a wall and chemical scum --
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pa vidimo zid, i kemijski otpad--
02:50
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
02:52
and that's not typical of the universe at all.
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a to uopće nije tipično za svemir.
02:56
All you've got to do is go a few hundred miles in that same direction
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Sve što trebate učiniti je otići par stotina milja u tom istom smjeru
03:00
and look back,
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te pogledati unazad,
03:01
and you won't see any walls or chemical scum at all --
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i nećete vidjeti nikakve zidove niti kemijski otpad --
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all you see is a blue planet.
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sve što vidite je plavi planet.
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And if you go further than that,
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A ako idete dalje od toga,
03:09
you'll see the Sun, the solar system and the stars and so on,
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vidjet ćete Sunce, sunčev sustav i zvijezde i tako dalje,
03:13
but that's still not typical of the universe,
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ali to i dalje nije tipično za svemir,
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because stars come in galaxies.
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jer zvijezde dolaze u galaksijama.
03:19
And most places in the universe, a typical place in the universe,
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A najviše mjesta u svemiru, tipično mjesto u svemiru,
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is nowhere near any galaxies.
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nije nigdje niti blizu galaksijama.
03:26
So let's go out further, till we're outside the galaxy,
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Pa hajdemo dalje, dok izađemo iz galaksije, te se osvrnimo,
03:30
and look back,
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03:31
and yeah, there's the huge galaxy with spiral arms laid out in front of us.
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i da, ovdje je ogromna galaksija sa spiralnim kracima ispred nas.
03:37
And at this point, we've come 100,000 light-years from here.
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U ovom trenutku, došli smo 100.000 svjetlosnih godina odavde.
03:43
But we're still nowhere near a typical place in the universe.
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Ali i dalje nismo niti blizu tipičnom mjestu u svemiru.
03:48
To get to a typical place,
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Kako biste došli do tipičnog mjesta,
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you've got to go 1,000 times as far as that,
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morali biste ići 1.000 puta dalje nego sada,
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into intergalactic space.
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u međugalaktički prostor.
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And so, what does that look like -- "typical?"
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Pa onda, kako to izgleda -- "tipično?"
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What does a "typical" place in the universe look like?
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kako izgleda "tipično" mjesto u svemiru?
04:02
Well, at enormous expense, TED has arranged
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Dobro, kroz enormne troškove, TED je sredio
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a high-resolution immersion virtual reality rendering
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VR prikaz, visoke razlučivosti radi bolje imerzije,
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of the view from intergalactic space.
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pogleda iz međugalaktičkog prostora.
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Can we have the lights off, please, so we can see it?
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Možemo li ugasiti svijetla, molim, kako bismo ga mogli vidjeti?
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Well, not quite, not quite perfect.
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Dobro, ne posve, ne posve savršeno.
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You see, intergalactic space is completely dark, pitch dark.
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Vidite, međugalaktički je prostor posve mračan, tamo je mrkli mrak.
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It's so dark,
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Toliko je mračno
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that if you were to be looking at the nearest star to you,
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da kada biste gledali prema sebi najbližoj zvijezdi,
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and that star were to explode as a supernova,
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a ta bi zvijezda eksplodirala kao supernova,
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and you were to be staring directly at it at the moment when its light reached you,
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a vi biste gledali ravno u nju u trenu kad bi vas njeno svjetlo doseglo,
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you still wouldn't be able to see even a glimmer.
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i dalje ne biste mogli vidjeti čak niti treptaj.
04:53
That's how big and how dark the universe is.
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To je koliko je velik i koliko je mračan svemir.
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And that's despite the fact that a supernova is so bright,
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A to je usprkos činjenici kako je supernova toliko svijetao,
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so brilliant an event,
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toliko sjajan događaj,
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that it would kill you stone dead at a range of several light-years.
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da bi vas smjesta ubila na udaljenosti od nekoliko svjetlosnih godina.
05:08
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
05:09
And yet, from intergalactic space,
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Pa ipak, iz međugalaktičkog prostora,
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it's so far away you wouldn't even see it.
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toliko je daleko da ju ne biste niti vidjeli.
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It's also very cold out there --
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Tamo je također i vrlo hladno --
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less than three degrees above absolute zero.
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manje od tri stupnja iznad apsolutne nule.
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And it's very empty.
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I vrlo je prazno.
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The vacuum there is one million times less dense than the highest vacuum
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Vakuum tamo je milijun puta rjeđi od najrjeđeg vakuuma
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that our best technology on Earth can currently create.
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kojeg najbolja tehnologija na Zemlji trenutno može stvoriti.
05:31
So that's how different a typical place is from this place.
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Toliko je različito tipično mjesto od ovog mjesta.
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And that is how untypical this place is.
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Dakle to je koliko je ovo mjesto netipično.
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So can we have the lights back on please? Thank you.
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Možemo li ponovno upaliti svijetla, molim? Hvala.
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Now, how do we know about an environment that's so far away and so different
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Sad, kako znamo o okružju koje je toliko udaljeno i toliko različito
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and so alien from anything we're used to?
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i toliko strano od svega na što smo navikli?
05:54
Well, the Earth -- our environment, in the form of us --
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Pa, Zemlja -- naše okružje, u obliku nas --
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is creating knowledge.
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stvara znanje.
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Well, what does that mean?
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Dobro, što to znači?
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Well, look out even further than we've just been --
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Pa, pogledajmo čak i dalje od ovog gdje smo upravo bili --
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I mean from here, with a telescope --
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mislim odavde, teleskopom --
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and you'll see things that look like stars, they're called quasars.
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i vidjet ćete stvari koji izgledaju poput zvijezda, a zovu se kvazari.
06:11
"Quasars" originally meant "quasi-stellar object,"
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"Kvazari" je izvorno značilo "Kvazi stelarni objekti",
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which means "things that look a bit like stars."
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Što znači: "stvari koje pomalo nalikuju zvijezdama."
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
Ali oni nisu zvijezde.
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But they're not stars.
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06:20
And we know what they are.
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A mi znamo što su.
06:24
Billions of years ago and billions of light-years away,
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Prije više milijardi godina i više milijardi godina svjetlosti od nas,
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the material at the center of a galaxy collapsed
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materijal u središtu galaksije se urušio
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towards a supermassive black hole.
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prema super masivnoj crnoj rupi.
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And then intense magnetic fields directed some of the energy
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A potom su silna magnetska polja
usmjerila nešto energije tog gravitacijskog urušavanja
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of that gravitational collapse
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06:40
and some of the matter
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i nešto materije
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back out in the form of tremendous jets,
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nazad van u obliku ogromnih mlazova,
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which illuminated lobes
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koji su osvjetlili režnjeve
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with the brilliance of -- I think it's a trillion -- suns.
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sa sjajem -- mislim da je trilijuna -- sunaca.
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Now, the physics of the human brain could hardly be more unlike
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Sad, fizika bi ljudskog mozga teško mogla biti različitija
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the physics of such a jet.
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od fizike takvog mlaza.
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We couldn't survive for an instant in it.
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Ne bismo mogli preživjeti u njemu niti trenutak.
07:01
Language breaks down when trying to describe
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Jezik se slama prilikom pokušaja opisa
07:04
what it would be like in one of those jets.
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kako bi bilo u jednom od tih mlazova.
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It would be a bit like experiencing a supernova explosion,
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Bilo bi pomalo nalik iskustvu eksplozije supernove,
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but at point-blank range and for millions of years at a time.
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ali iz neposredne blizine i u trajanju više milijuna godina.
07:13
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
07:17
And yet, that jet happened in precisely such a way
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Pa ipak, taj se mlaz dogodio na točno takav način
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that billions of years later, on the other side of the universe,
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da milijarde godina kasnije, na drugoj strani svemira,
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some bit of chemical scum could accurately describe
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neki dio kemijske skrame može točno opisati
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and model and predict and explain, above all --
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i modelirati i predvidjeti i objasniti, prije svega --
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there's your reference --
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eto vam upute --
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what was happening there, in reality.
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što se događalo tamo, u stvarnosti.
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The one physical system, the brain, contains an accurate working model
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Jedan fizički sustav, mozak, sadrži točan radni model
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of the other, the quasar.
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drugoga, kvazara.
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Not just a superficial image of it, though it contains that as well,
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Ne samo njegovu površinsku sliku, iako također sadrži i to,
07:51
but an explanatory model,
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nego model koji objašnjava,
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embodying the same mathematical relationships
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koji utjelovljuje iste matematičke odnose
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and the same causal structure.
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i istu uzročnu strukturu.
07:59
Now, that is knowledge.
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Sad, to je znanje.
A ako to nije dovoljno zapanjujuće,
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And if that weren't amazing enough,
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the faithfulness with which the one structure resembles the other
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stupanj kojem jedna struktura nalikuje drugoj
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is increasing with time.
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sa vremenom raste.
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That is the growth of knowledge.
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To je rast znanja.
08:12
So, the laws of physics have this special property,
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Jer, zakoni fizike imaju to posebno svojstvo
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that physical objects as unlike each other as they could possibly be
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da fizički objekti toliko međusobno različiti koliko uopće mogu biti,
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can, nevertheless, embody the same mathematical and causal structure
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mogu ipak utjeloviti istu matematičku i uzročnu strukturu
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and to do it more and more so over time.
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te to činiti sve više i više tijekom vremena.
08:30
So we are a chemical scum that is different.
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Tako da smo mi kemijska skrama koja je različita.
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This chemical scum has universality.
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Ovaj kemijski otpad ima općenitost.
08:36
Its structure contains, with ever-increasing precision,
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Njegova struktura sadrži, sa stalno rastućom preciznošću,
08:41
the structure of everything.
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strukturu svega.
08:42
This place, and not other places in the universe,
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Ovo mjesto, a ne druga mjesta u svemiru,
08:46
is a hub which contains within itself the structural and causal essence
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je središte koje u sebi sadrži strukturalnu i uzročnu srž
08:52
of the whole of the rest of physical reality.
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čitave ostale fizičke stvarnosti.
08:55
And so, far from being insignificant,
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Tako da, daleko od bivanja beznačajnom,
08:57
the fact that the laws of physics allow this
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činjenica kako zakoni fizike omogućuju ovo
08:59
or even mandate that this can happen
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ili se čak pobrinu kako bi se to moglo dogoditi,
09:03
is one of the most important things about the physical world.
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je jedna od najvažnijih stvari o fizičkom svijetu.
09:08
Now, how does the solar system -- our environment, in the form of us --
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Sad, kako sunčev sustav -- naše okružje, u obliku nas --
09:13
acquire this special relationship with the rest of the universe?
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stječe taj poseban odnos s ostatkom svemira?
09:17
Well, one thing that's true about Stephen Hawking's remark --
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Pa, jedna stvar koja je ispravna u Stephen Hawkingovoj opasci --
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I mean, it is true, but it's the wrong emphasis --
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mislim, ispravna je, samo je krivo naglašena.
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one thing that's true about it is that it doesn't do it with any special physics,
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Jedna stvar koja je ispravna je kako ne koristi nikakvu posebnu fiziku,
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there's no special dispensation, no miracles involved.
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Nema posebnih božanskih zakona, nisu uključena nikakva čuda.
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It does it simply with three things that we have here in abundance.
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Radi jednostavno sa tri stvari koje ovdje imamo u izobilju.
09:39
One of them is matter,
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Jedna od njih je materija,
09:40
because the growth of knowledge is a form of information processing.
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jer rast znanja je oblik obrade informacija.
09:45
Information processing is computation, computation requires a computer,
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Obrada informacija je računanje, računanje zahtijeva računalo --
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and there's no known way of making a computer without matter.
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nema poznatog načina pravljenja računala bez materije.
09:52
We also need energy to make the computer, and most important,
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Također trebamo energiju kako bi napravili računalo, te najvažnije,
09:56
to make the media, in effect, onto which we record
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da napravimo medij, u biti, na koji spremamo
10:00
the knowledge that we discover.
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znanje koje smo otkrili.
10:02
And then thirdly, less tangible but just as essential
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Te potom treće, manje opipljivo ali jednako bitno
10:06
for the open-ended creation of knowledge, of explanations,
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za bezgraničeno stvaranje znanja, stvaranje objašnjenja
10:10
is evidence.
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je dokaz.
10:14
Now, our environment is inundated with evidence.
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Sad, naše je okružje preplavljeno dokazima
10:17
We happened to get round to testing, let's say, Newton's law of gravity,
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Dogodilo se da smo testirali, recimo, Newtonov zakon gravitacije,
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about 300 years ago.
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prije oko 300 godina.
10:24
But the evidence that we used to do that
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Ali dokazi koje smo koristili
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was falling down on every square meter of the Earth
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su padali na svaki četvorni metar Zemlje
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for billions of years before that,
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milijardama godina ranije
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and we'll continue to fall for billions of years afterwards.
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i nastavit će padati milijardama godina nakon.
10:37
And the same is true for all the other sciences.
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A isto vrijedi i za ostale znanosti.
10:40
As far as we know,
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Koliko nam je poznato, dokazi za otkrivanje najtemeljnijih istina
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evidence to discover the most fundamental truths of all the sciences
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svih znanosti nalaze se ovdje, na našoj planeti, samo ih treba uzeti.
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is here just for the taking, on our planet.
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10:49
Our location is saturated with evidence
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Naša je lokacija preplavljena dokazima
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and also with matter and energy.
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te također materijom i energijom.
10:54
Out in intergalactic space,
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Vani u međugalaktičkom prostoru,
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those three prerequisites for the open-ended creation of knowledge
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ova su tri preduvjeta za bezgranično stvaranje znanja
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are at their lowest possible supply --
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na najnižoj mogućoj razini dostupnosti --
11:02
as I said, it's empty, it's cold and it's dark out there.
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kako rekoh, tamo vani je prazno, hladno i mračno.
11:07
Or is it?
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No je li tako?
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Now actually, that's just another parochial misconception.
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Pa zapravo, to je još jedno pučko pogrešno shvaćanje.
(Smijeh)
11:13
(Laughter)
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Because imagine a cube out there in intergalactic space,
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Jer zamislite kocku tamo u međugalaktičkom prostoru
11:19
the same size as our home, the solar system.
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iste veličine kao naš dom, sunčev sustav.
11:22
Now, that cube is very empty by human standards,
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Sad ta je kocka jako prazna po ljudskim standardima,
11:26
but that still means that it contains over a million tons of matter.
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ali to i dalje znači kako sadrži više od milijun tona materije.
11:31
And a million tons is enough to make, say, a self-contained space station,
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A milijun tona je dovoljno za stvoriti, recimo, samodostatnu svemirsku stanicu,
11:36
on which there's a colony of scientists
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na kojoj je kolonija znanstvenika
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that are devoted to creating an open-ended stream of knowledge, and so on.
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koja je posvećena stvaranju bezgraničnog toka znanja, i tako dalje.
11:42
Now, it's way beyond present technology
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Sad, trenutno je poprilično onkraj tehnologije
čak i prikupiti vodik iz međugalaktičkog prostora
11:45
to even gather the hydrogen from intergalactic space
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and form it into other elements and so on.
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te ga oblikovati u druge elemente i tako dalje.
11:52
But the thing is, in a comprehensible universe,
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Ali stvar je, u razumljivom svemiru,
11:55
if something isn't forbidden by the laws of physics,
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ako nešto nije zabranjeno zakonima fizike,
11:59
then what could possibly prevent us from doing it, other than knowing how?
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onda što nas može spriječiti da to učinimo, osim znanja kako?
12:03
In other words, it's a matter of knowledge, not resources.
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Drugim riječima, to je stvar znanja, ne resursa.
Ako bismo to mogli učiniti, automatski bi imali izvor energije,
12:07
If we could do that, we'd automatically have an energy supply,
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12:10
because this transmutation would be a fusion reactor.
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jer ta bi transmutacija bila fuzijski reaktor.
12:13
And evidence?
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A dokazi?
12:15
Well, again, it's dark out there to human senses,
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Dobro, ponovno, tamo je tamno za ljudske pojmove,
12:18
but all you've got to do is take a telescope,
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ali sve što trebaš napraviti je uzeti teleskop,
12:20
even one of present-day design,
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čak neki današnjeg dizajna,
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look out, and you'll see the same galaxies as we do from here.
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pogledati, i vidjet ćeš iste galaksije kao i mi odavde.
12:27
And with a more powerful telescope,
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A s moćnijim teleskopom,
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you'll be able to see stars and planets in those galaxies,
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moći ćeš vidjeti zvijezde i planete u tim galaksijama,
12:32
you'll be able to do astrophysics and learn the laws of physics.
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moći ćeš se baviti astrofizikom te učiti zakone fizike.
12:36
And locally there, you could build particle accelerators
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A tamo lokalno mogao bi sagraditi ubrzivače čestica,
12:38
and learn elementary particle physics and chemistry, and so on.
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te učiti fiziku elementarnih čestica te kemiju, i tako dalje.
12:42
Probably the hardest science to do would be biology field trips --
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Vjerojatni bi najteža znanost za činiti bila biološki terenski rad --
12:46
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
12:47
because it would take several hundred million years
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jer bi trebalo nekoliko stotina milijuna godina
12:50
to get to the nearest life-bearing planet and back.
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za doći do najbližeg planeta koji sadrži život i nazad.
12:54
But I have to tell you -- and sorry, Richard --
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Ali moram vam reći -- i oprosti, Richarde, --
12:56
but I never did like biology field trips much --
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ali nikad nisam baš ni volio biološki terenski rad.
12:59
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
13:01
and I think we can just about make do
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pa smatram kako nam je zapravo taman dovoljno
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with one every few hundred million years.
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imati jedan svakih nekoliko stotina milijuna godina.
13:05
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
13:07
So, in fact, intergalactic space does contain all the prerequisites
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Tako da zapravo, međugalaktički prostor sadrži preduvjete
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for the open-ended creation of knowledge.
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za bezgranično stvaranje znanja.
13:17
Any such cube anywhere in the universe
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Bilo koja takva kocka bilo gdje u svemiru
13:20
could become the same kind of hub that we are,
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bi mogla postati ista vrst koncentratora kakav smo i mi,
13:25
if the knowledge of how to do so were present there.
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ako bi znanje kako to učiniti tamo bila prisutna.
13:30
So, we're not in a uniquely hospitable place.
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Dakle, nismo na jedinstveno nastanjivom mjestu.
13:34
If intergalactic space is capable of creating
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Ako je međugalaktički prostor sposoban stvoriti
13:36
an open-ended stream of explanations,
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bezgraničan tok objašnjenja,
13:39
then so is almost every other environment,
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onda je tako i gotovo svako drugo okružje,
13:41
so is the Earth.
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tako je i Zemlja.
13:42
So is a polluted Earth.
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Tako je i zagađena Zemlja.
13:45
And the limiting factor, there and here,
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A ograničavajući faktor, tamo i ovdje,
13:49
is not resources -- because they're plentiful --
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nisu resursi, jer njih je obilje,
13:52
but knowledge, which is scarce.
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nego znanje, kojeg je malo.
13:54
Now, this cosmic knowledge-based view may -- and, I think, ought to --
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Sad ovaj pogled na svemir temeljen na znanju može -- a mislim da i treba --
14:00
make us feel very special.
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učiniti da se osjećamo vrlo posebnima.
Ali bi nas također trebao učiniti da se osjećamo ranjivima,
14:03
But it should also make us feel vulnerable,
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14:05
because it means that without the specific knowledge
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jer to znači kako bez određenog znanja
14:09
that's needed to survive the ongoing challenges of the universe,
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koje je potrebno za preživjeti trenutne izazove svemira,
14:12
we won't survive them.
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nećemo ih preživjeti.
14:14
All it takes is for a supernova to go off a few light-years away,
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Sve što je potrebno je da supernova okine nekoliko svjetlosnih godina odavde,
14:17
and we'll all be dead!
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i svi bismo bili mrtvi!
14:19
Martin Rees has recently written a book
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Martin Rees je nedavno napisao knjigu
14:21
about our vulnerability to all sorts of things,
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o našoj ranjivosti spram svakakvih stvari,
14:25
from astrophysics, to scientific experiments gone wrong,
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od astrofizike do znanstvenih eksperimenata koji su pošli ukrivo
14:29
and most importantly, to terrorism with weapons of mass destruction.
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te najvažnije. do terorizma oružjem masovnog uništenja.
14:33
And he thinks that civilization has only a 50 percent chance
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Te on misli kako civilizacija ima samo 50 posto šanse
14:36
of surviving this century.
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preživjeti ovo stoljeće.
14:38
I think he's going to talk about that later in the conference.
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Mislim kako će on pričati o tome kasnije u konferenciji.
14:41
Now, I don't think that probability is the right category
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Sad, ne mislim kako je vjerojatnost ispravna kategorija
14:46
to discuss this issue in,
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za raspravu o ovoj temi,
14:48
but I do agree with him about this:
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ali slažem se s njim oko ovoga:
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we can survive and we can fail to survive.
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možemo preživjeti, a možemo i ne preživjeti.
14:54
But it depends, not on chance,
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Ali to ne ovisi o šansi,
14:57
but on whether we create the relevant knowledge in time.
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nego o tome jesmo li stvorili relevantno znanje na vrijeme.
15:01
The danger is not at all unprecedented.
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Opasnost uopće nije besprimjerna.
15:03
Species go extinct all the time.
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Vrste izumiru svo vrijeme.
15:07
Civilizations end.
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Civilizacije završavaju.
15:09
The overwhelming majority of all species and all civilizations
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Nadmoćna većina svih vrsta i svih civilizacija
15:12
that have ever existed
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koje su ikad postojale sad su povijest.
15:14
are now history.
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15:15
And if we want to be the exception to that,
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A ako mi želimo biti iznimka iz toga,
15:18
then logically, our only hope is to make use of the one feature
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tad je, logično, naša jedina nada upotrijebiti tu jedinstvenu odliku
15:24
that distinguishes our species and civilization from all the others,
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koja izdvaja našu vrstu i civilizaciju od svih ostalih --
15:28
namely, our special relationship with the laws of physics,
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rječju, naš poseban odnos sa zakonima fizike,
15:33
our ability to create new explanations, new knowledge --
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našu sposobnost stvoriti nova objašnjenja, novo znanje --
15:37
to be a hub of existence.
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biti centralni čvor postojanja.
15:40
So let me now apply this to a current controversy,
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Pa dajte neka primijenim ovo na trenutnu polemiku,
15:44
not because I want to advocate any particular solution,
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ne stoga što želim zastupati neko određeno rješenje,
15:47
but just to illustrate the kind of thing I mean.
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nego samo kako bih prikazao na kakve stvari mislim.
15:50
And the controversy is global warming.
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A polemika je globalno zatopljenje.
15:53
Now, I'm a physicist, but I'm not the right kind of physicist.
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Sad, ja sam fizičar, ali nisam prava vrst fizičara.
15:56
In regard to global warming, I'm just a layman.
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Spram golablnog zatopljenja, tek sam laik.
15:59
And the rational thing for a layman to do
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A razumna stvar za laika
16:02
is to take seriously the prevailing scientific theory.
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je shvatiti ozbiljno prevladavajuću znanstvenu teoriju.
16:07
And according to that theory, it's already too late to avoid a disaster,
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A u skladu s tom teorijom, već je prekasno za izbjeći nepogodu,
16:11
because, if it's true that our best option at the moment is to prevent CO2 emissions
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što ako je istina da je naša trenutno najbolja mogućnost spriječiti emisije CO2
16:17
with something like the Kyoto Protocol,
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pomoću nečega nalik Protokolu iz Kyota,
16:19
with its constraints on economic activity and its enormous cost
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sa ograničavanjem gospodarske aktivnosti i ogromnom cijenom toga
16:23
of hundreds of billions of dollars, or whatever it is,
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u stotinama milijardi dolara, ili kolika već jest,
16:26
then that is already a disaster by any reasonable measure.
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onda je to već sad nepogoda u bilo kojoj razumnoj mjeri.
16:31
And the actions that are advocated are not even purported to solve the problem,
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A akcije koje se zastupaju čak niti ne podrazumjevaju riješiti problem,
16:36
merely to postpone it by a little.
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već ga tek kane malo odgoditi.
16:38
So it's already too late to avoid it,
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Dakle već je prekasno izbjeći ju,
16:40
and it probably has been too late to avoid it
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a vjerojatno je bilo prekasno izbjeći ju
16:43
ever since before anyone realized the danger.
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i prije nego je itko uočio opasnost.
16:47
It was probably already too late in the 1970s,
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Vjerojatno je već bilo prekasno u 1970-ima,
16:50
when the best available scientific theory was telling us
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kada nam je najbolja postojeća znanstvena teorija govorila
16:53
that industrial emissions were about to precipitate a new ice age,
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kako će industrijske emisije ubrzati dolazak novog ledenog doba,
16:57
in which billions would die.
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u kojem će milijarde izginuti.
17:00
Now, the lesson of that seems clear to me,
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Sad, pouka ovoga meni se čini jasna,
17:02
and I don't know why it isn't informing public debate.
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i ne znam zašto ne utječe na javnu raspravu.
17:06
It is that we can't always know.
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Govori nam kako ne možemo uvijek znati.
17:09
When we know of an impending disaster
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Kad znamo za nadolazeću nepogodu,
17:12
and how to solve it at a cost less than the cost of the disaster itself,
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te kako ju riješiti po cijeni nižoj od cijene same nepogode,
17:16
then there's not going to be much argument, really.
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tada zapravo i neće biti puno rasprave.
17:19
But no precautions and no precautionary principle
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ali nikakva predostrožnost niti mjera opreza
17:24
can avoid problems that we do not yet foresee.
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ne može izbjeći probleme koje još nismo predvidjeli.
Stoga, trebamo stav rješavanja problema,
17:29
Hence, we need a stance of problem-fixing,
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17:33
not just problem-avoidance.
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ne samo izbjegavanja problema.
17:36
And it's true that an ounce of prevention equals a pound of cure,
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Istina je kako šaka sprječavanja vrijedi kao vreća lijeka,
17:40
but that's only if we know what to prevent.
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ali to vrijedi samo ako znamo što spriječiti.
17:43
If you've been punched on the nose,
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Ako ste udareni po nosu,
17:45
then the science of medicine does not consist of
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onda se znanost medicine me sastoji od poučavanja vas
17:47
teaching you how to avoid punches.
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kako izbjeći udarce.
17:49
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
17:50
If medical science stopped seeking cures and concentrated on prevention only,
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Ako bi medicinska znanost prestala tražiti lijekove i usredotočila se na prevenciju,
17:56
then it would achieve very little of either.
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onda bi postigla jako malo ijednoga.
17:58
The world is buzzing at the moment
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Svijet trenutno bruji
18:00
with plans to force reductions in gas emissions at all costs.
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od planova kako primorati na smanjenje ispuštanja plinova po svaku cijenu.
18:05
It ought to be buzzing with plans to reduce the temperature
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Trebao bi brujati od planova kako smanjiti temperaturu,
18:10
and with plans to live at the higher temperature --
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i od planova kako živjeti na višoj temperaturi --
18:13
and not at all costs, but efficiently and cheaply.
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i ne po svaku cijenu, već učinkovito i jeftino.
18:16
And some such plans exist,
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A neki takvi planovi postoje,
18:17
things like swarms of mirrors in space to deflect the sunlight away
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stvari poput jata zrcala u svemiru koja bi odbijala sunčevu svjetlost,
18:22
and encouraging aquatic organisms to eat more carbon dioxide.
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te poticanja vodenih organizama jesti više ugljičnog dioksida.
18:26
At the moment, these things are fringe research;
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U ovom trenutku, ove su stvari rubna istraživanja;
18:29
they're not central to the human effort to face this problem
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nisu u središtu ljudskog napora za suočenje sa ovim problemom,
18:33
or problems in general.
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ili problemima uopće.
18:35
And with problems that we are not aware of yet,
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A s problemima kojih još nismo svjesni,
18:37
the ability to put right -- not the sheer good luck of avoiding indefinitely --
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sposobnost za ispravno postupanje -- ne tek puka sreća vječitog izbjegavanja --
18:43
is our only hope, not just of solving problems,
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je naša jedina nada, ne samo rješavanja problema,
18:46
but of survival.
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nego preživljavanja.
18:48
So, take two stone tablets
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Pa uzmite dvije kamene pločice, i urežite u njih.
18:53
and carve on them.
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18:56
On one of them, carve:
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Na jednu, urežite: "Problemi su rješivi"
18:58
"Problems are soluble."
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19:00
And on the other one, carve:
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A na drugu, urežite: "Problemi su neizbježni"
19:02
"Problems are inevitable."
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19:05
Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
19:06
(Applause)
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