Afra Raymond: Three myths about corruption

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Translator: Joseph Geni Reviewer: Morton Bast
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Okay, this morning I'm speaking
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on the question of corruption.
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And corruption is defined
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as the abuse of a position of trust
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for the benefit of yourself -- or, in the case of our context,
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your friends, your family or your financiers.
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Okay? Friends, family and financiers.
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But we need to understand what we understand about corruption,
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and we need to understand that
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we have been miseducated about it, and we have to admit that.
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We have to have the courage to admit that
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to start changing how we deal with it.
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The first thing is that the big myth, number one,
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is that in fact it's not really a crime.
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When we get together with friends and family
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and we discuss crime in our country,
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crime in Belmont or crime in Diego or crime in Marabella,
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nobody's speaking about corruption.
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That's the honest truth.
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When the Commissioner of Police comes on TV to talk about crime,
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he isn't speaking about corruption.
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And we know for sure when the Minister of National Security
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is speaking about crime, he's not talking about corruption either.
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The point I'm making is that it is a crime.
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It is an economic crime, because we're involving the looting of taxpayers' money.
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Public and private corruption is a reality.
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As somebody who comes from the private sector,
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I can tell you there's a massive amount of corruption
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in the private sector that has nothing to do with government.
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The same bribes and backhanders and things that take place under the table,
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it all takes place in the private sector.
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Today, I'm focusing on public sector corruption,
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which the private sector also participates in.
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The second important myth to understand --
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because we have to destroy these myths,
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dismantle them and destroy them and ridicule them --
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the second important myth to understand
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is the one that says
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that in fact corruption is only a small problem --
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if it is a problem, it's only a small problem,
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that in fact it's only a little 10 or 15 percent,
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it's been going on forever, it probably will continue forever,
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and there's no point passing any laws, because there's little we can do about it.
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And I want to demonstrate that that, too,
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is a dangerous myth, very dangerous.
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It's a piece of public mischief.
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And I want to speak a little bit,
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take us back about 30 years.
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We're coming out today from Trinidad and Tobago,
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a resource-rich, small Caribbean country,
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and in the early 1970s we had a massive increase in the country's wealth,
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and that increase was caused by the increase in world oil prices.
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We call them petrodollars. The treasury was bursting with money.
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And it's ironic, because
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we're standing today in the Central Bank.
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You see, history's rich in irony.
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We're standing today in the Central Bank,
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and the Central Bank is responsible for a lot of the things I'm going to be speaking about.
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Okay? We're talking about irresponsibility in public office.
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We're speaking about the fact that across the terrace,
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the next tower is the Ministry of Finance,
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and there's a lot of connection with us today,
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so we're speaking within your temple today. Okay?
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(Applause)
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The first thing I want to talk about is that
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when all of this money flowed into our country about 40 years ago,
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we embarked, the government of the day embarked
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on a series of government-to-government arrangements
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to have rapidly develop the country.
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And some of the largest projects in the country
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were being constructed through government-to-government arrangements
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with some of the leading countries in the world,
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the United States and Britain and France and so on and so on.
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As I said, even this building we're standing in -- that's one of the ironies --
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this building was part of that series of complexes,
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what they called the Twin Towers.
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It became so outrageous, the whole situation,
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that in fact a commission of inquiry was appointed,
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and it reported in 1982, 30 years ago it reported --
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the Ballah Report -- 30 years ago,
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and immediately the government-to-government arrangements were stopped.
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The then-Prime Minister went to Parliament
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to give a budget speech, and he said some things that I'll never forget.
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They went right in here. I was a young man at the time.
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It went right into my heart.
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And he said that, in fact โ€” Let me see if this thing works.
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Are we getting a, yeah?โ€”
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That's what he told us.
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He told us that, in fact,
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two out of every three dollars of our petrodollars
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that we spent, the taxpayers' money,
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was wasted or stolen.
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So the 10 or 15 percent is pure mischief.
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As we say, it's a nancy-story. Forget it.
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That's for little children. We are big people,
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and we're trying to deal with what's happening in our society.
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Okay? This is the size of the problem.
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Okay? Two thirds of the money stolen or wasted.
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That was 30 years ago. 1982 was Ballah.
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So what has changed?
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I don't like to bring up embarrassing secrets
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to an international audience, but I have to.
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Four months ago, we suffered a constitutional outrage in this country.
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We call it the Section 34 fiasco, the Section 34 fiasco,
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a suspicious piece of law, and I'm going to say it like it is,
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a suspicious piece of law
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was passed at a suspicious time
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to free some suspects. (Laughter)
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And it was called, those people are called
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the Piarco Airport accused.
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I'm going to have my own lexicon speaking here today.
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They are the Piarco Airport accused.
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It was a constitutional outrage of the first order,
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and I have labeled it the Plot to Pervert Parliament.
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Our highest institution in our country was perverted.
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We are dealing with perverts here
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of an economic and financial nature.
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Do you get how serious this problem is?
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There was massive protest. A lot of us in this room
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took part in the protest in different forms.
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Most importantly, the American embassy complained,
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so Parliament was swiftly reconvened,
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and the law was reversed, it was repealed.
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That's the word lawyers use. It was repealed.
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But the point is
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that Parliament was outwitted in the whole course of events,
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because what really happened is that,
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because of the suspicious passage of that law,
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the law was actually passed into effect
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on the weekend we celebrated our 50th anniversary of independence,
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our jubilee of independence.
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So that is the kind of outrage of the thing.
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It was kind of a nasty way to get maturation, but we got it,
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because we all understood it,
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and for the first time that I could remember,
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there were mass protests against this corruption.
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And that gave me a lot of hope. Okay?
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Those of us who are, sometimes you feel like
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you're a little bit on your own doing some of this work.
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That passage of the law and the repeal of the law
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fortified the case of the Piarco Airport accused.
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So it was one of those really superior double bluff kind of things that took place.
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But what were they accused of?
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What was it that they were accused of?
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I'm being a bit mysterious for those of you out there. What were they accused of?
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We were trying to build, or reconstruct largely,
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an airport that had grown outdated.
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The entire project cost about 1.6 billion dollars,
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Trinidad and Tobago dollars,
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and in fact, we had a lot of bid-rigging
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and suspicious activity, corrupt activity took place.
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And to get an idea of what it consisted of,
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and to put it in context in relationship to this whole
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second myth about it being no big thing,
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we can look at this second slide here.
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And what we have here -- I am not saying so,
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this is the Director of Public Prosecutions in a written statement. He said so.
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And he's telling us that for the $1.6 billion cost of the project,
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one billion dollars has been traced
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to offshore bank accounts.
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One billion dollars of our taxpayers' money
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has been located in offshore bank accounts.
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Being the kind of suspicious person I am,
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I am outraged at that, and I'm going to pause here,
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I'm going to pause now and again and bring in different things.
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I'm going to pause here and bring in something I saw
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in November last year at Wall Street. I was at Zuccotti Park.
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It was autumn. It was cool. It was damp. It was getting dark.
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And I was walking around with the protesters
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looking at the One Wall Street, Occupy Wall Street movement walking around.
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And there was a lady with a sign, a very simple sign,
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a kind of battered-looking blonde lady,
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and the sign was made out of Bristol board, as we say in these parts,
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and it was made with a marker.
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And what it said on that sign hit me right in the center.
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It said, "If you're not outraged, you haven't been paying attention."
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If you're not outraged by all of this, you haven't been paying attention.
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So listen up, because we're getting into even deeper waters.
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My brain started thinking.
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Well, what if --
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because I'm suspicious like that. I read a lot of spy novels and stuff.
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What if -- (Laughter)
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But to make it in these wrongs,
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you have to read a lot of spy novels
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and follow some of that stuff, right? (Laughter)
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But what if this wasn't the first time?
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What if this is just the first time
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that the so-and-sos had been caught?
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What if it had happened before? How would I find out?
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Now, the previous two examples I gave
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were to do with construction sector corruption, okay?
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And I have the privilege at this time
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to lead the Joint Consultative Council, which is a not-for-profit.
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We're at jcc.org.tt, and we have the -- we are the leaders
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in the struggle to produce a new public procurement system
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about how public money is transacted.
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So those of you interested in finding out more about it,
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or joining us or signing up on any of our petitions, please get involved.
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But I'm going to segue to another thing that relates,
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because one of my private campaigns I've been conducting
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for over three and a half years
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is for transparency and accountability
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around the bailout of CL Financial.
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CL Financial is the Caribbean's largest ever conglomerate, okay?
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And without getting into all of the details,
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it is said to have collapsed โ€” I'm using my words very carefully โ€”
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it's said to have collapsed in January of '09,
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which is just coming up to nearly four years.
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In an unprecedented fit of generosity --
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and you have to be very suspicious about these people --
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in an unprecedented โ€” and I'm using that word carefully โ€”
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unprecedented fit of generosity, the government of the day
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signed, made a written commitment, to repay all of the creditors.
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And I can tell you without fear of contradiction
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that hasn't happened anywhere else on the planet.
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Let's understand, because we lack context.
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People are telling us it's just like Wall Street. It's not just like Wall Street.
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Trinidad and Tobago is like a place with different laws of physics or biology or something.
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It's not just like anywhere. (Applause)
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It's not just like anywhere. It's not just like anywhere.
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Here is here, and out there is out there. Okay?
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I'm serious now.
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Listen. They've had bailouts on Wall Street.
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They've had bailouts in London.
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They've had bailouts in Europe.
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In Africa, they've had bailouts. In Nigeria, six of the major
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commercial banks collapsed at the same time as ours, eh?
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It's interesting to parallel how the Nigerian experience has --
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how they've treated it, and they've treated it
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very well compared to us.
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Nowhere on the planet
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have all the creditors been bailed out
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in excess of what their statutory entitlements were.
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Only here. So what was the reason for the generosity?
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Is our government that generous? And maybe they are.
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Let's look at it. Let's look into it.
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So I started digging and writing and so and so on,
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and that work can be found, my personal work
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can be found at AfraRaymond.com, which is my name.
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It's a not-for-profit blog that I run.
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Not as popular as some of the other people, but there you go.
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(Laughter)
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But the point is that the bitter experience of Section 34,
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that plot to pervert Parliament, that bitter experience
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that took place in August,
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when we were supposed to be celebrating our independence,
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going into September, forced me to check myself
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and recalculate my bearings,
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and to go back into some of the work, some of the stuff I'd written
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and some of the exchanges I'd had with the officials
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to see what was really what.
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As we say in Trinidad and Tobago, who is who and what is what?
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Okay? We want to try to recalculate.
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And I made a Freedom of Information application
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in May this year to the Ministry of Finance.
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The Ministry of Finance is the next tower over.
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This is the other context.
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The Ministry of Finance, we are told,
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is subject to the provisions of the Freedom of Information Act.
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I'm going to take you through a worked example of whether that's really so.
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The Central Bank in which we stand this morning
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is immune from the provisions of the Freedom of Information Act.
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So in fact, you can't ask them anything,
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and they don't have to answer anything.
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That is the law since 1999.
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So I plunged into this struggle, and I asked four questions.
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And I'll relate the questions to you in the short form with the reply,
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so you could understand, as I said, where we are.
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Here is not like anywhere else.
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Question number one:
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I asked to see the accounts of CL Financial,
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and if you can't show me the accounts --
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the Minister of Finance is making statements,
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passing new laws and giving speeches and so on.
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What are the figures he's relying on?
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It's like that joke: I want whatever he's drinking.
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And they wrote back and said to me,
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well what do you really mean?
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So they hit my question with a question.
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Second point: I want to see
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who are the creditors of the group who have been repaid?
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Let me pause here to point out to you all
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that 24 billion dollars of our money has been spent on this.
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That is about three and a half billion U.S. dollars
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coming out of a small -- we used to be resource-rich --
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Caribbean country. Okay?
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And I asked the question,
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who was getting that three and a half billion dollars?
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And I want to pause again to bring up context,
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because context helps us to get clarity understanding this thing.
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There's a particular individual who is in the government now.
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The name of the person doesn't matter.
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And that person made a career
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out of using the Freedom of Information Act
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to advance his political cause.
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Okay? His name isn't important.
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I wouldn't dignify it. I'm on a point.
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The point is, that person made a career out of using
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the Freedom of Information Act to advance his cause.
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And the most famous case
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was what we came to call the Secret Scholarship Scandal,
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where in fact there was about 60 million dollars in government money
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that had been dispersed in a series of scholarships,
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and the scholarships hadn't been advertised, and so and so on and so on.
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And he was able to get the court, using that act of Parliament,
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Freedom of Information Act,
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to release the information,
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and I thought that was excellent.
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Fantastic.
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But you see, the question is this:
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If it's right and proper for us to use the Freedom of Information Act
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and to use the court
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to force a disclosure about 60 million dollars in public money,
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it must be right and proper
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for us to force a disclosure about 24 billion dollars.
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You see? But the Ministry of Finance,
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the Permanent Secretary of the Ministry of Finance,
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wrote me and said to me, that information is exempt too.
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You see? This is what we're dealing with, okay?
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The third thing I will tell you
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is that I also asked
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for the directors of CL Financial,
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whether in fact they were making filings under our Integrity in Public Life Act.
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We have an Integrity in Public Life Act
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as part of our framework supposed to safeguard the nation's interest.
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And public officials are supposed to file
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to say what it is they have in terms of assets and liabilities.
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And of course I've since discovered that they're not filing,
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and in fact the Minister of Finance has not even asked them to file.
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So here we have it. We have a situation where
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the basic safeguards of integrity and accountability
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and transparency have all been discarded.
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I've asked the question in the legal and required fashion.
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It's been ignored.
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The sort of thing that motivated us around Section 34,
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we need to continue to work on that. We can't forget it.
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I have defined this as the single largest expenditure in the country's history.
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It's also the single largest example
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of public corruption according to this equation.
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And this is my reality check.
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Where you have an expenditure of public money
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and it is without accountability
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and it's without transparency,
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it will always be equal to corruption,
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whether you're in Russia or Nigeria or Alaska,
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it will always be equal to corruption, and that is what we are dealing with here.
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I'm going to continue the work
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to press on, to get some resolution
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of those matters at the Ministry of Finance.
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If it is I have to go to court personally, I will do that.
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We will continue to press on.
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We will continue to work within JCC.
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But I want to step back from the Trinidad and Tobago context
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and bring something new to the table
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in terms of an international example.
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We had the journalist [Heather] Brooke speaking
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about her battle against government corruption,
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and she introduced me to this website, Alaveteli.com.
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And Alaveteli.com is a way for us to have an open database
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for Freedom of Information applications,
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and speak with each other.
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I could see what you're applying for.
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You could see what I applied for and what replies I got.
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We can work on it together. We need to build a collective database
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and a collective understanding of where we are to go to the next point.
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We need to increase the consciousness.
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The final thing I want to say is in relation to this one,
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which is a lovely website from India
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called IPaidABribe.com.
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They have international branches,
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and it's important for us to tune into this one.
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IPaidABribe.com is really important,
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a good one to log on to and see.
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I'm going to pause there. I'm going to ask you for your courage.
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Discard the first myth; it is a crime.
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Discard the second myth; it is a big thing.
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It's a huge problem. It's an economic crime.
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And let us continue working together
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to betterment in this situation,
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stability and sustainability in our society. Thank you.
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