Marcel Dicke: Why not eat insects?

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Okay, I'm going to show you
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again something about our diets.
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And I would like to know what the audience is,
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and so who of you ever ate insects?
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That's quite a lot.
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(Laughter)
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But still, you're not representing
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the overall population of the Earth.
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(Laughter)
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Because there's 80 percent out there that really eats insects.
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But this is quite good.
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Why not eat insects? Well first, what are insects?
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Insects are animals that walk around on six legs.
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And here you see just a selection.
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There's six million species of insects on this planet,
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six million species.
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There's a few hundreds of mammals --
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six million species of insects.
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In fact, if we count all the individual organisms,
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we would come at much larger numbers.
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In fact, of all animals on Earth,
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of all animal species,
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80 percent walks on six legs.
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But if we would count all the individuals,
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and we take an average weight of them,
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it would amount to something like 200 to 2,000 kilograms
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for each of you and me on Earth.
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That means that in terms of biomass,
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insects are more abundant than we are,
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and we're not on a planet of men,
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but we're on a planet of insects.
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Insects are not only there in nature,
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but they also are involved in our economy,
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usually without us knowing.
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There was an estimation,
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a conservative estimation, a couple of years ago
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that the U.S. economy
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benefited by 57 billion
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dollars per year.
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It's a number -- very large --
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a contribution to the economy of the United States for free.
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And so I looked up what the economy was paying
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for the war in Iraq
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in the same year.
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It was 80 billion U.S. dollars.
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Well we know that that
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was not a cheap war.
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So insects, just for free,
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contribute to the economy of the United States
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with about the same order of magnitude,
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just for free, without everyone knowing.
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And not only in the States,
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but in any country, in any economy.
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What do they do?
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They remove dung, they pollinate our crops.
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A third of all the fruits that we eat
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are all a result
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of insects taking care of the reproduction of plants.
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They control pests,
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and they're food for animals.
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They're at the start of food chains.
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Small animals eat insects.
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Even larger animals eat insects.
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But the small animals that eat insects
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are being eaten by larger animals,
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still larger animals.
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And at the end of the food chain, we are eating them as well.
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There's quite a lot of people that are eating insects.
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And here you see me
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in a small, provincial town in China, Lijiang --
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about two million inhabitants.
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If you go out for dinner, like in a fish restaurant,
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where you can select which fish you want to eat,
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you can select which insects you would like to eat.
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And they prepare it in a wonderful way.
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And here you see me enjoying a meal
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with caterpillars, locusts,
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bee pupae -- delicacies.
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And you can eat something new everyday.
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There's more than 1,000 species of insects
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that are being eaten all around the globe.
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That's quite a bit more
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than just a few mammals that we're eating,
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like a cow or a pig
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or a sheep.
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More than 1,000 species --
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an enormous variety.
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And now you may think, okay,
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in this provincial town in China they're doing that, but not us.
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Well we've seen already that quite some of you
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already ate insects maybe occasionally,
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but I can tell you that every one of you
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is eating insects, without any exception.
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You're eating at least
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500 grams per year.
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What are you eating?
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Tomato soup, peanut butter,
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chocolate, noodles --
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any processed food that you're eating
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contains insects,
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because insects are here all around us,
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and when they're out there in nature
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they're also in our crops.
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Some fruits get some insect damage.
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Those are the fruits, if they're tomato,
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that go to the tomato soup.
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If they don't have any damage, they go to the grocery.
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And that's your view of a tomato.
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But there's tomatoes that end up in a soup,
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and as long as they meet
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the requirements of the food agency,
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there can be all kinds of things in there,
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no problem.
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In fact, why would we put these balls in the soup,
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there's meat in there anyway?
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(Laughter)
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In fact, all our processed foods
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contain more proteins
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than we would be aware of.
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So anything is a good protein source already.
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Now you may say,
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"Okay, so we're eating 500 grams just by accident."
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We're even doing this on purpose.
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In a lot of food items that we have --
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I have only two items
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here on the slide --
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pink cookies or surimi sticks
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or, if you like, Campari --
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a lot of our food products that are of a red color
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are dyed with a natural dye.
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The surimi sticks
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[of] crabmeat, or is being sold as crab meat,
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is white fish
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that's being dyed with cochineal.
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Cochineal is a product
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of an insect that lives off these cacti.
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It's being produced in large amounts,
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150 to 180 metric tons per year
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in the Canary Islands in Peru,
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and it's big business.
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One gram of cochineal
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costs about 30 euros.
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One gram of gold
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is 30 euros.
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So it's a very precious thing
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that we're using to dye our foods.
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Now the situation in the world is going to change
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for you and me, for everyone on this Earth.
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The human population is growing very rapidly
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and is growing exponentially.
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Where, at the moment, we have
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something between six and seven billion people,
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it will grow to about nine billion
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in 2050.
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That means that we have a lot more mouths to feed,
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and this is something that worries more and more people.
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There was an FAO conference last October
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that was completely devoted to this.
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How are we going to feed this world?
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And if you look at the figures up there,
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it says that we have a third more mouths to feed,
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but we need an agricultural production increase
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of 70 percent.
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And that's especially because this world population
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is increasing,
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and it's increasing, not only in numbers,
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but we're also getting wealthier,
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and anyone that gets wealthier starts to eat more
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and also starts to eat more meat.
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And meat, in fact, is something
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that costs a lot
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of our agricultural production.
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Our diet consists, [in] some part, of animal proteins,
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and at the moment, most of us here
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get it from livestock,
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from fish, from game.
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And we eat quite a lot of it.
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In the developed world it's on average
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80 kilograms per person per year,
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which goes up to 120
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in the United States
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and a bit lower in some other countries,
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but on average 80 kilograms
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per person per year.
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In the developing world it's much lower.
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It's 25 kilograms per person per year.
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But it's increasing enormously.
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In China in the last 20 years,
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it increased from 20 to 50,
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and it's still increasing.
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So if a third of the world population
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is going to increase its meat consumption
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from 25 to 80 on average,
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and a third of the world population
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is living in China and in India,
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we're having an enormous demand on meat.
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And of course, we are not there to say
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that's only for us, it's not for them.
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They have the same share that we have.
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Now to start with, I should say
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that we are eating way too much meat
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in the Western world.
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We could do with much, much less --
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and I know, I've been a vegetarian for a long time,
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and you can easily do without anything.
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You'll get proteins in any kind of food anyway.
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But then there's a lot of problems
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that come with meat production,
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and we're being faced with that more and more often.
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The first problem that we're facing is human health.
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Pigs are quite like us.
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They're even models in medicine,
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and we can even transplant organs from a pig to a human.
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That means that pigs also share diseases with us.
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And a pig disease,
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a pig virus, and a human virus
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can both proliferate,
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and because of their kind of reproduction,
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they can combine and produce a new virus.
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This has happened in the Netherlands in the 1990s
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during the classical swine fever outbreak.
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You get a new disease that can be deadly.
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We eat insects -- they're so distantly related from us
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that this doesn't happen.
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So that's one point for insects.
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(Laughter)
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And there's the conversion factor.
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You take 10 kilograms of feed,
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you can get one kilogram of beef,
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but you can get nine kilograms of locust meat.
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So if you would be an entrepreneur,
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what would you do?
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With 10 kilograms of input,
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you can get either one or nine kg. of output.
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So far we're taking
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the one, or up to five kilograms of output.
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We're not taking the bonus yet.
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We're not taking the nine kilograms of output yet.
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So that's two points for insects.
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(Laughter)
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And there's the environment.
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If we take 10 kilograms of food --
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(Laughter)
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and it results in one kilogram of beef,
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the other nine kilograms are waste,
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and a lot of that is manure.
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If you produce insects, you have less manure
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per kilogram of meat that you produce.
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So less waste.
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Furthermore, per kilogram of manure,
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you have much, much less ammonia
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and fewer greenhouse gases
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when you have insect manure
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than when you have cow manure.
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So you have less waste,
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and the waste that you have is not as environmental malign
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as it is with cow dung.
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So that's three points for insects.
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(Laughter)
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Now there's a big "if," of course,
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and it is if insects produce meat
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that is of good quality.
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Well there have been all kinds of analyses
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and in terms of protein, or fat, or vitamins,
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it's very good.
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In fact, it's comparable
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to anything we eat as meat at the moment.
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And even in terms of calories, it is very good.
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One kilogram of grasshoppers
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has the same amount of calories
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as 10 hot dogs, or six Big Macs.
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So that's four points for insects.
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(Laughter)
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I can go on,
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and I could make many more points for insects,
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but time doesn't allow this.
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So the question is, why not eat insects?
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I gave you at least four arguments in favor.
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We'll have to.
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Even if you don't like it,
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you'll have to get used to this
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because at the moment,
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70 percent of all our agricultural land
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is being used to produce livestock.
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That's not only the land
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where the livestock is walking and feeding,
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but it's also other areas
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where the feed is being produced and being transported.
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We can increase it a bit
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at the expense of rainforests,
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but there's a limitation very soon.
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And if you remember that we need to increase
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agricultural production by 70 percent,
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we're not going to make it that way.
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We could much better change
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from meat, from beef,
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to insects.
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And then 80 percent of the world
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already eats insects,
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so we are just a minority --
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in a country like the U.K., the USA,
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the Netherlands, anywhere.
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On the left-hand side, you see a market in Laos
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where they have abundantly present
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all kinds of insects that you choose for dinner for the night.
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On the right-hand side you see a grasshopper.
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So people there are eating them,
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not because they're hungry,
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but because they think it's a delicacy.
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It's just very good food.
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You can vary enormously.
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It has many benefits.
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In fact, we have delicacy
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that's very much like this grasshopper:
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shrimps, a delicacy
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being sold at a high price.
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Who wouldn't like to eat a shrimp?
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There are a few people who don't like shrimp,
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but shrimp, or crabs,
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or crayfish,
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are very closely related.
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They are delicacies.
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In fact, a locust is a "shrimp" of the land,
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and it would make very good into our diet.
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So why are we not eating insects yet?
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Well that's just a matter of mindset.
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We're not used to it,
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and we see insects as these organisms that are very different from us.
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That's why we're changing the perception of insects.
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And I'm working very hard with my colleague, Arnold van Huis,
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in telling people what insects are,
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what magnificent things they are,
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what magnificent jobs they do in nature.
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And in fact, without insects,
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we would not be here in this room,
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because if the insects die out,
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we will soon die out as well.
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If we die out, the insects will continue very happily.
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(Laughter)
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So we have to get used to the idea of eating insects.
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And some might think, well they're not yet available.
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Well they are.
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There are entrepreneurs in the Netherlands that produce them,
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and one of them is here in the audience,
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Marian Peeters, who's in the picture.
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I predict that later this year, you'll get them in the supermarkets --
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not visible, but as animal protein
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in the food.
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And maybe by 2020,
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you'll buy them just knowing that this is an insect that you're going to eat.
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And they're being made in the most wonderful ways.
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A Dutch chocolate maker.
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(Music)
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(Applause)
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So there's even a lot of design to it.
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(Laughter)
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Well in the Netherlands, we have an innovative Minister of Agriculture,
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and she puts the insects on the menu
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in her restaurant in her ministry.
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And when she got all the Ministers of Agriculture of the E.U.
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over to the Hague recently,
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she went to a high-class restaurant,
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and they ate insects all together.
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It's not something that is a hobby of mine.
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It's really taken off the ground.
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So why not eat insects?
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You should try it yourself.
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A couple of years ago, we had 1,750 people all together
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in a square in Wageningen town,
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and they ate insects at the same moment,
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and this was still big, big news.
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I think soon it will not be big news anymore when we all eat insects,
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because it's just a normal way of doing.
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So you can try it yourself today,
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and I would say, enjoy.
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And I'm going to show to Bruno some first tries,
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and he can have the first bite.
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(Applause)
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Bruno Giussani: Look at them first. Look at them first.
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Marcel Dicke: It's all protein.
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BG: That's exactly the same [one] you saw in the video actually.
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And it looks delicious.
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They just make it [with] nuts or something.
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MD: Thank you.
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(Applause)
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