How do you know you’re not dreaming? - Daniel Gregory

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翻译人员: Lesley Xu 校对人员: Grace Man
00:06
You’re a butterfly, fluttering around pursuing a butterfly’s whims.
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你是一只蝴蝶, 像蝴蝶追求梦想似地四处飞舞。
00:11
Then you wake up.
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然后你醒了。
00:13
But how do you know you’re not dreaming now?
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但你怎么知道你已从梦中醒来?
00:15
The answer might seem obvious,
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答案似乎很明显,
00:17
but it’s actually very difficult to explain how, definitively,
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但其实,要确切地解释 “你自己知道你已经醒来了”
00:21
you know you’re awake.
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是件非常困难的事。
00:23
So difficult, in fact, that it has puzzled philosophers since ancient times.
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事实上,这个难题 自古以来就困扰着许多哲学家。
00:28
In the butterfly scenario,
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以刚才蝴蝶的例子来说,
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the ancient Chinese philosopher Zhuangzi surfaced a mystifying possibility:
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中国古代的哲学家庄子 提出了一个谜团般的可能性
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if we can dream of being an entirely different creature,
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昔者庄周梦为胡蝶,
00:38
who's to say we're not actually
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不知周之梦为胡蝶与,
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a different creature dreaming of being human?
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胡蝶之梦为周与?
00:43
Bizarre things happen in dreams:
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离奇的事情常发生在梦里:
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you fly, or conjure an all-you-can-eat dessert buffet out of thin air,
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你飞起来了, 或者无中生出一顿点心自助餐,
00:49
or get chased by witches through the halls of your elementary school,
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或者在小学的门厅被女巫追逐,
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which suddenly looks a lot like Paris.
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小学的门厅突然变成了巴黎。
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But the strange things that happen in dreams don’t seem strange at the time.
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但是发生在梦里的离奇的事情 在当时看来并不离奇。
00:59
So how do you know you’re not in a dream right now
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所以, 怎么才能得知自己在不在做一个
01:02
that will seem very strange after you wake up?
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醒来后会觉得十分奇怪的梦?
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Well, it is possible to notice
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在做梦的时候,有可能会注意到
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the strangeness of a dream while you’re dreaming.
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那个梦的奇怪的地方。
01:10
Lucid dreamers know they’re dreaming.
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清醒的人做梦的时候 知道自己在做梦。
01:12
By definition, if you were having a lucid dream, you would know it.
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确切来说,若你在做一个清醒的梦, 你自己是会明白这一点的。
01:15
But all that proves is that you’re not having a lucid dream—
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但是这也证明 你如果不在做一个清醒的梦——
01:19
it doesn’t prove you’re awake.
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它不会证明你醒着。
01:22
There has to be a surefire test—
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有一个可靠的实验——
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something that never— or only— happens when you’re awake,
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一些从来不在——或仅仅在—— 你清醒的时候发生的事情,
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something that never— or only— happens in a dream.
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一些从不——或仅仅—— 在梦中发生。
01:31
Wake up. No, that isn’t it—
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醒醒。 不,这不代表——
01:33
you can wake up in a dream.
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你可以在梦中醒来。
01:35
Pinch yourself. If it hurts, aren’t you really awake?
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掐自己一把。 如果痛,你真的醒来了吗?
01:38
Try to read or write something.
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试着读或者写一些事情。
01:40
Run around the room.
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绕着房间跑一圈。
01:41
Does your pace seem normal or suspiciously slow?
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你的脚步是不是看起来正常 或者诡异得慢?
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Suspiciously fast?
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诡异得快?
01:47
Can’t tell? Try to remember the last time you ran.
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不确定? 试着记起上一次的跑步的时候。
01:51
Actually, that brings us to an even better test
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事实上,这带给我们一个更好的
01:54
from the 17th century French philosopher René Descartes.
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来自 17 世纪法国哲学家 勒内·笛卡尔(René Descartes)的实验
01:58
He pointed out that in our memories, dreams are disconnected—
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他指出在我们的记忆中, 梦是不连续的——
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the events of a dream don’t fit in to the chain of events
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梦中的事件不予我们现实中的
02:05
in our waking lives.
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事件链相连。
02:07
This seems rock solid, doesn't it?
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这看起来很令人信服,不是吗?
02:09
You couldn’t possibly have swum with dolphins in a nameless pink sea
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你或许不能在圣诞节与除夕夜之间
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between Christmas and New Year’s Eve
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和海豚在无名的粉色海洋里游泳
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because you didn’t leave Kansas and you have the receipts to prove it.
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因为你不能离开堪萨斯 并且你有收据来证明。
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Well, one of Descartes’ contemporaries,
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笛卡尔的同代人之一
02:21
the English philosopher Thomas Hobbes, had something to say about that:
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英国哲学家托马斯·霍布斯 (Thomas Hobbes)对此有话说:
02:26
what if Descartes was performing his test in a dream?
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如果笛卡尔是在梦中做的实验呢?
02:29
What if we ask an expert?
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如果我们咨询一名专家呢?
02:31
A neuroscientist can measure the activity in different parts of your brain
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一位神经科学家可以测量 你大脑中不同组成的活动
02:35
and tell you whether you’re awake or sleeping.
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然后告诉你你是醒来了还是在睡觉。
02:37
But that just brings us back to the idea that any test you might use
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但是让我们回到那个 你在睡觉时能用的所有测试
02:41
to prove you’re awake could take place in a dream.
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都能证明你醒着的想法。
02:45
So far, no one has found a convincing response to this.
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至今,没有人能够为此找到 一个令人信服的答案。
02:48
But let’s be real: there’s a whole lot more detail in our waking experience
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但是现实点:我们在醒的时候 能够经历比做梦时
02:53
than in dreams.
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更多的细节。
02:54
We go to sleep and wake up again day after day for many years,
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我们每天睡着,然后醒来, 重复许多年,
02:58
and each new day is full of countless people, places, things, experiences.
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然后每个新的一天都充满了数不完的 人、地点、东西、经验。
03:03
Even our memories, which capture just a fraction of this experience,
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甚至在我们的, 只抓取了一部分经验的记忆中,
03:07
contain an almost incomprehensibly vast amount of detail:
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包括了难以理解的不计其数的细节:
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we can recall a line from a favorite book decades later,
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我们可以在数十年后 回想起最喜欢的书的一行字,
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remember the musty smell of its pages
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回想起书页间发霉的味道,
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and the taste of the lemonade we drank while reading it,
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以及看书时喝的柠檬汽水的味道,
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remember a dream we had about it and tell someone all this.
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回想起一个做过的梦然后告诉别人。
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Isn't it ridiculous to suggest a dream could ever simulate this richness?
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指出一个梦永远无法模拟它的丰富性 难道不是很可笑吗?
03:30
Well, as the Persian philosopher al-Ghazali pointed out,
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就像波斯哲学家 安萨里(al-Ghazali)提出的,
03:33
in the same way we think we are now awake having woken from dreams,
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同一道理中我们觉得我们现在醒了, 从梦中醒来了,
03:38
it is possible that we might wake from our current state
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有可能我们从现在的状态中
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into another state of even greater wakefulness.
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醒到了另外一个更加清醒的状态。
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Which would mean we’re really in a kind of dream-state
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这也说明 我们确实在觉得自己醒来的时候
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when we think we’re awake.
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处在一个梦中的境界。
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What philosophers really want to know is what justifies our belief
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哲学家们真正想要知道的是 如何证明
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that we’re awake.
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我们醒着。
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We all want to believe things because we have reasons for them,
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我们都倾向于相信 有依据的事情,
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not just because they seem right.
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不仅仅是因为它们听起来是正确的。
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Sometimes, the biggest challenge is to show why we should believe something
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有时候,最大的挑战是证明 为什么我们应该相信
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that seems completely obvious to us all.
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一件对所有人来说 显而易见的事情。
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