A Conversation With My Hero, Stephen | How my deaf friend learned English

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ไธ‹ใฎ่‹ฑ่ชžๅญ—ๅน•ใ‚’ใƒ€ใƒ–ใƒซใ‚ฏใƒชใƒƒใ‚ฏใ™ใ‚‹ใจๅ‹•็”ปใ‚’ๅ†็”Ÿใงใใพใ™ใ€‚

00:10
Hello, everyone.
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ใ“ใ‚“ใซใกใฏใ€ใฟใ‚“ใชใ€‚
00:11
My name is Robin Shaw.
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็งใฎๅๅ‰ใฏใƒญใƒ“ใƒณใƒปใ‚ทใƒงใ‚ฆใงใ™ใ€‚
00:13
And I am here today with a very special guest.
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ใใ—ใฆไปŠๆ—ฅใฏ็‰นๅˆฅใชใ‚ฒใ‚นใƒˆใจไธ€็ท’ใซใ“ใ“ใซๆฅใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
็งใฎ่ฆชๆ„›ใชใ‚‹ๅ‹ไบบใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใƒณใ€‚
00:17
My dear friend, Stephen.
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00:18
Heโ€™s also my personal hero.
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ๅฝผใฏ็งใฎๅ€‹ไบบ็š„ใชใƒ’ใƒผใƒญใƒผใงใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
00:21
Hello, Stephen.
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ใ“ใ‚“ใซใกใฏใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒ–ใƒณใ€‚
00:23
Hey, Robin.
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ใ‚„ใ‚ใ€ใƒญใƒ“ใƒณใ€‚
00:24
Can you tell us a little bit about yourself?
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ใ‚ใชใŸ่‡ช่บซใซใคใ„ใฆๅฐ‘ใ—ๆ•™ใˆใฆใ„ใŸใ ใ‘ใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
00:28
I am 33.
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00:31
I am deaf.
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ใ€‚่ด่ฆš้šœๅฎณ่€…ใงใ™ใ€‚
00:33
I can communicate with you right now through lip-reading and listening through my hearing aids.
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็งใฏไปŠใ€
่ชญๅ”‡่ก“ใจ่ฃœ่ดๅ™จใ‚’้€šใ—ใฆ่žใใ“ใจใงใ‚ใชใŸใจใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใ‚ฑใƒผใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใ‚’ใจใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
00:41
Alright so, yes, he is deaf.
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ใฏใ„ใ€ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€ๅฝผใฏ่ด่ฆš้šœๅฎณ่€…ใงใ™ใ€‚
00:43
And he can understand me because he can hear a little bit through his hearing aids and
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ ๅฝผใฏ่ฃœ่ดๅ™จใ‚’้€šใ—ใฆๅฐ‘ใ—่žใ“ใˆใ‚‹ใฎใง
ใ€็งใฎๅ”‡ใ‚’่ชญใ‚€ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ€
็งใฎใ“ใจใ‚’็†่งฃใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™
00:50
he has to read my lips.
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00:52
Yes.
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ใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€‚
00:53
Where did we meet?
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00:55
We met in North Korea 5 years ago.
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็งใŸใกใฏ5ๅนดๅ‰ใซๅŒ—ๆœ้ฎฎใงไผšใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
00:59
Thatโ€™s right.
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01:00
I was traveling in North Korea for a few weeks, and we had to stay in the same room for about
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็งใฏๅŒ—ๆœ้ฎฎใ‚’ๆ•ฐ้€ฑ้–“ๆ—…่กŒใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใŒใ€
1๏ฝž2้€ฑ้–“ใฏๅŒใ˜้ƒจๅฑ‹ใซๆปžๅœจใ—ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
01:07
a week or two.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€็งใŸใกใฏใŠไบ’ใ„ใซไผšใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
01:10
And we met each other.
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ใใ—ใฆ ๅฝผใฏๅŒ—ๆœ้ฎฎใ‚’ไธ€ไบบใงๆ—…่กŒใ—ใฆใ„ใŸใฎใง
01:11
And I was very surprised because he was traveling alone in North Korea.
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ใจใฆใ‚‚้ฉšใใพใ—ใŸ ใ€‚
01:16
And, well, you know, just to be in North Korea, Yes,
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01:19
โ€ฆ is such an adventure.
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€ใจใฆใ‚‚ๅ†’้™บใงใ™ใ€‚
ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ๅฝผใฏไธ€ไบบใงใใ“ใซใ„ใŸใ€‚
01:22
But he was there alone.
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01:23
He didnโ€™t need anybodyโ€™s help.
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ๅฝผใฏ่ชฐใฎๅŠฉใ‘ใ‚‚ๅฟ…่ฆใจใ—ใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
01:25
Yeah.
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01:26
And heโ€™s quite an independent person.
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01:29
There are a lot of misconceptions about deaf people.
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่ด่ฆš้šœๅฎณ่€…ใซใคใ„ใฆใฏๅคšใใฎ่ชค่งฃใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
01:34
A lot of people believe that deaf people cannot do much.
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่ด่ฆš้šœๅฎณ่€…ใซใฏไฝ•ใ‚‚ใงใใชใ„ใจๅคšใใฎไบบใŒไฟกใ˜ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
01:40
But Iโ€™m a good example of why that is so wrong.
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01:45
Why donโ€™t you tell us about your childhood, like, how did you learn English?
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ไพ‹ใˆใฐใฉใ†ใ‚„ใฃใฆ่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’ๅญฆใ‚“ใ ใ‹ใชใฉ
ใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใฟใฆใฏใ„ใ‹ใŒใงใ™ใ‹
01:52
It started with a deaf school.
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๏ผŸ ่พๅญฆๆ กใ‹ใ‚‰ๅง‹ใพใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
01:54
So Iโ€™m with other children who are also deaf.
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ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€็งใฏๅŒใ˜ใ‚ˆใ†ใซ่ด่ฆš้šœๅฎณใฎใ‚ใ‚‹ไป–ใฎๅญไพ›ใŸใกใจไธ€็ท’ใซใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
็งใŸใกใฏ่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’ๆ‰‹ใ‚’ไฝฟใฃใฆๅญฆใณใพใ—ใŸ
02:00
We learned English through the hands, so itโ€™s not sign language.
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02:06
But a representation of English with the hands.
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02:10
So through that medium, we learn the structure of English.
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ใใฎใŸใ‚ใ€็งใŸใกใฏใใฎๅช’ไฝ“ใ‚’้€šใ˜ใฆ
่‹ฑ่ชžใฎๆง‹้€ ใ‚’ๅญฆใณใพใ™ใ€‚
02:16
And alsoโ€ฆ
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02:17
My family are all hearing.
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02:20
So I was isolated from the conversation.
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ใใ‚Œใง็งใฏไผš่ฉฑใ‹ใ‚‰ๅญค็ซ‹ใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
02:24
So I spent a lot of time reading.
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ใใ‚Œใง็งใฏๅคšใใฎๆ™‚้–“ใ‚’่ชญๆ›ธใซ่ฒปใ‚„ใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
02:27
So I learned more English through books.
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ใใ‚Œใง็งใฏๆœฌใ‚’้€šใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใฃใจ่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’ๅญฆใณใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
02:31
Through books, yesโ€ฆ
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ๆœฌใ‚’้€šใ˜ใฆใ€ใใ†ใงใ™ใญโ€ฆ
02:33
That is amazing.
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ใ™ใ”ใ„ใงใ™ใญใ€‚
ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใฎๆœฌใ‚’่ชญใ‚“ใ ใฏใšใงใ™ใ€‚
02:36
You mustโ€™ve read a lot of books.
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02:38
A lot, yes.
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02:40
A lot of books.
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02:42
As I said, or he said, we met in North Korea.
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็งใŒ่จ€ใฃใŸใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ„ใฏๅฝผใŒ่จ€ใฃใŸใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€็งใŸใกใฏๅŒ—ๆœ้ฎฎใงไผšใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
02:46
He loves to travel.
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02:48
I do.
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็งใฏใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
02:49
So, how many countries and territories have you been to?
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏไฝ•ใ‚ซๅ›ฝ
ใ‚„ๅœฐๅŸŸใซ่กŒใฃใŸใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‹?
02:53
I have been to, now, over 90.
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็งใฏไปŠใพใงใซ 90 ใ‚’่ถ…ใˆใพใ—ใŸใ€‚90 ใ‚’่ถ…ใˆใพใ—ใŸใ€ใฏใ„ใ€‚
02:57
Over 90, yes.
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02:58
I have not traveled that much.
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03:01
And I donโ€™t think many of you have traveled that much,
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03:03
so he is amazing.
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03:04
He can travel the world alone.
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ๅฝผใฏไธ€ไบบใงไธ–็•Œใ‚’ๆ—…ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใ‚‹ใ€‚
03:07
You knowโ€ฆ
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใญโ€ฆ
03:08
No problem.
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ๅ•้กŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
03:09
Thereโ€™s no problem.
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ไฝ•ใ‚‚ๅ•้กŒใชใ„ใ€‚
03:11
Can you tell us what kind of problems you may have when traveling?
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ๆ—…่กŒไธญใซ
ใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชๅ•้กŒใŒ็™บ็”Ÿใ™ใ‚‹ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ๆ•™ใˆใฆใใ ใ•ใ„
03:17
I have been to a lot of poor countries.
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ใใ—ใฆ่ฒงใ—ใ„ๅ›ฝใงใฏใ€
03:23
And in poor countries, a lot of people cannot read and write.
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ๅคšใใฎไบบใŒ่ชญใฟๆ›ธใใŒใงใใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
ใใฎใŸใ‚ใ€ใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใ‚ฑใƒผใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใ‚’ใจใ‚‹ใจใใฏๅคšใใฎๅ ดๅˆใ€
03:29
So, a lot of the time, when I communicate, I have to use pen and paper.
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03:35
So when I go up to someone in a poor country to ask for something,
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ไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚’ใŠ้ก˜ใ„ใ™ใ‚‹ใจใใฏใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚’ๆ›ธใ็•™ใ‚ใพใ™ใ€‚
03:41
I write it down.
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03:42
But they cannot read it.
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03:44
So, Iโ€™ve had to adapt to that by miming for example, or drawing a picture.
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ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ไพ‹ใˆใฐ็œŸไผผใ‚’ใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ€
็ตตใ‚’ๆใ„ใŸใ‚Šใ—ใฆใ€ใใ‚Œใซ้ฉๅฟœใ—ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
03:52
So thatโ€™s a good example.
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03:55
Okay, and what country are planning to travel in the near future?
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04:01
Thereโ€™s so much more of the world that I want to see.
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04:05
Iโ€™m thinking of going to Mongolia.
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04:08
Itโ€™s very beautiful.
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04:10
Yes.
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04:11
Yes, alright.
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04:12
You have been.
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04:13
Iโ€™ve been to Mongolia.
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04:14
Itโ€™s very beautiful.
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04:16
And, yes, we have traveled...
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04:18
after we met in North Korea.
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04:21
We have traveled to other countries.
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04:23
We've traveled to Sri Lanka and Maldives together.
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04:26
Yes.
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04:27
And in the future we will travel to more countries.
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04:32
Alright, thank you very much, Stephen.
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04:34
Youโ€™re welcome.
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04:35
Iโ€™m very happy you did this.
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ใ‚„ใฃใฆใใ‚Œใฆใจใฆใ‚‚ๅฌ‰ใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
04:37
And you shared a part of your life with our viewers.
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04:40
And your struggles traveling around the world.
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04:44
And learning and speaking English.
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04:47
So thank you very much.
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04:48
Yeah.
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04:49
Alright, thank you everyone for watching.
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04:51
And Iโ€™ll see you next time.
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