A Conversation With My Hero, Stephen | How my deaf friend learned English

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μ•„λž˜ μ˜λ¬Έμžλ§‰μ„ λ”λΈ”ν΄λ¦­ν•˜μ‹œλ©΄ μ˜μƒμ΄ μž¬μƒλ©λ‹ˆλ‹€.

00:10
Hello, everyone.
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μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„, μ•ˆλ…•ν•˜μ„Έμš”.
00:11
My name is Robin Shaw.
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λ‚΄ 이름은 둜빈 μ‡Όμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:13
And I am here today with a very special guest.
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그리고 μ €λŠ” 였늘 μ•„μ£Ό νŠΉλ³„ν•œ μ†λ‹˜κ³Ό ν•¨κ»˜ 이 μžλ¦¬μ— μ„°μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
λ‚˜μ˜ μ‚¬λž‘ν•˜λŠ” 친ꡬ, μŠ€ν‹°λΈ.
00:17
My dear friend, Stephen.
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00:18
He’s also my personal hero.
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κ·ΈλŠ” λ˜ν•œ λ‚˜μ˜ 개인적인 μ˜μ›…μ΄κΈ°λ„ ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:21
Hello, Stephen.
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μ•ˆλ…•, μŠ€ν‹°λΈ.
00:23
Hey, Robin.
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μ•ˆλ…•, 둜빈.
00:24
Can you tell us a little bit about yourself?
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당신에 λŒ€ν•΄ 쑰금 말씀해 μ£Όμ‹œκ² μŠ΅λ‹ˆκΉŒ?
00:28
I am 33.
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μ €λŠ” 33μ„Έμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:31
I am deaf.
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μ €λŠ” κ·€λ¨Έκ±°λ¦¬μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. λ‚˜λŠ”
00:33
I can communicate with you right now through lip-reading and listening through my hearing aids.
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μž…μˆ μ½κΈ°μ™€ 보청기λ₯Ό ν†΅ν•œ λ“£κΈ°λ₯Ό 톡해
μ§€κΈˆ λ°”λ‘œ μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„κ³Ό μ†Œν†΅ν•  수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€ .
00:41
Alright so, yes, he is deaf.
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κ·Έλ ‡κ΅°μš”. κ·Έ μ‚¬λžŒμ€ κ·€λ¨Έκ±°λ¦¬μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:43
And he can understand me because he can hear a little bit through his hearing aids and
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그리고 κ·ΈλŠ” 보청기λ₯Ό 톡해 쑰금 듀을 수
있고 λ‚΄ μž…μˆ μ„ 읽어야 ν•˜κΈ° λ•Œλ¬Έμ—
λ‚΄ 말을 이해할 수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€
00:50
he has to read my lips.
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00:52
Yes.
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. 예.
00:53
Where did we meet?
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μš°λ¦¬λŠ” μ–΄λ””μ„œ λ§Œλ‚¬λ‚˜μš”?
00:55
We met in North Korea 5 years ago.
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μš°λ¦¬λŠ” 5λ…„ μ „ λΆν•œμ—μ„œ λ§Œλ‚¬μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:59
That’s right.
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μ’‹μ•„μš”.
01:00
I was traveling in North Korea for a few weeks, and we had to stay in the same room for about
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μ €λŠ” λͺ‡ μ£Ό λ™μ•ˆ λΆν•œμ„ μ—¬ν–‰ μ€‘μ΄μ—ˆκ³ ,
μš°λ¦¬λŠ” ν•œλ‘ μ£Ό 정도 같은 방에 λ¨Έλ¬ΌλŸ¬μ•Ό ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:07
a week or two.
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그리고 μš°λ¦¬λŠ” μ„œλ‘œ λ§Œλ‚¬μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:10
And we met each other.
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그리고 혼자 λΆν•œ 여행을 ν•˜κ³  μžˆμ–΄μ„œ
01:11
And I was very surprised because he was traveling alone in North Korea.
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많이 λ†€λžμ–΄μš” .
01:16
And, well, you know, just to be in North Korea, Yes,
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그리고, μ•„μ‹œλ‹€μ‹œν”Ό, λΆν•œμ— μžˆλ‹€λŠ” 것 μžμ²΄κ°€
01:19
… is such an adventure.
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정말 λͺ¨ν—˜μ΄μ—μš”.
κ·ΈλŸ¬λ‚˜ κ·ΈλŠ” κ±°κΈ° ν˜Όμžμ˜€μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:22
But he was there alone.
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01:23
He didn’t need anybody’s help.
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κ·Έμ—κ²ŒλŠ” λˆ„κ΅¬μ˜ 도움도 ν•„μš”ν•˜μ§€ μ•Šμ•˜μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:25
Yeah.
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응. 그리고 κ·ΈλŠ” κ½€ 독립적인 μ‚¬λžŒμ΄λ‹€.
01:26
And he’s quite an independent person.
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01:29
There are a lot of misconceptions about deaf people.
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청각 μž₯애인에 λŒ€ν•œ λ§Žμ€ μ˜€ν•΄κ°€ μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:34
A lot of people believe that deaf people cannot do much.
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λ§Žμ€ μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ€ 청각 μž₯애인이 λ§Žμ€ 일을 ν•  수 μ—†λ‹€κ³  λ―ΏμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:40
But I’m a good example of why that is so wrong.
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ μ €λŠ” 그것이 μ™œ κ·Έλ ‡κ²Œ 잘λͺ»λœ 것인지 λ³΄μ—¬μ£ΌλŠ” 쒋은 μ˜ˆμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:45
Why don’t you tell us about your childhood, like, how did you learn English?
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μ˜μ–΄λ₯Ό μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ λ°°μ› λŠ”μ§€ λ“±
μ–΄λ¦° μ‹œμ ˆμ— λŒ€ν•΄ 이야기해 λ³΄μ„Έμš” .
01:52
It started with a deaf school.
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그것은 청각 μž₯애인 ν•™κ΅μ—μ„œ μ‹œμž‘λ˜μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:54
So I’m with other children who are also deaf.
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ λ‚˜λŠ” μ—­μ‹œ 청각 μž₯μ• κ°€ μžˆλŠ” λ‹€λ₯Έ 아이듀과 ν•¨κ»˜ μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
μš°λ¦¬λŠ” μ†μœΌλ‘œ μ˜μ–΄λ₯Ό λ°°μ› κΈ°
02:00
We learned English through the hands, so it’s not sign language.
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λ•Œλ¬Έμ— μˆ˜ν™”κ°€ μ•„λ‹™λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:06
But a representation of English with the hands.
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κ·ΈλŸ¬λ‚˜ μ˜μ–΄λ₯Ό μ†μœΌλ‘œ ν‘œν˜„ν•˜λŠ” κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:10
So through that medium, we learn the structure of English.
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ κ·Έ 맀체λ₯Ό 톡해
μš°λ¦¬λŠ” μ˜μ–΄μ˜ ꡬ쑰λ₯Ό λ°°μ›λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:16
And also…
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그리고 λ˜β€¦ 우리 가쑱은 λͺ¨λ‘ λ“£κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:17
My family are all hearing.
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02:20
So I was isolated from the conversation.
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ λ‚˜λŠ” λŒ€ν™”μ—μ„œ κ³ λ¦½λ˜μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:24
So I spent a lot of time reading.
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ 책을 μ½λŠ” 데 λ§Žμ€ μ‹œκ°„μ„ λ³΄λƒˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:27
So I learned more English through books.
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ 책을 톡해 μ˜μ–΄λ₯Ό 더 많이 λ°°μ› μ–΄μš”.
02:31
Through books, yes…
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책을 톡해 그렇죠…
02:33
That is amazing.
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λŒ€λ‹¨ν•˜λ„€μš”.
책을 많이 μ½μœΌμ…¨λ‚˜λ΄μš”.
02:36
You must’ve read a lot of books.
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02:38
A lot, yes.
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많이 κ·Έλ ‡μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. λ§Žμ€ μ±….
02:40
A lot of books.
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02:42
As I said, or he said, we met in North Korea.
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λ‚΄κ°€ λ§ν–ˆλ“―μ΄, κ·Έκ°€ λ§ν–ˆλ“―μ΄, μš°λ¦¬λŠ” λΆν•œμ—μ„œ λ§Œλ‚¬μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:46
He loves to travel.
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κ·ΈλŠ” 여행을 μ’‹μ•„ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:48
I do.
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κ·Έλž˜μš”.
02:49
So, how many countries and territories have you been to?
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κ·Έλ ‡λ‹€λ©΄ μ–Όλ§ˆλ‚˜ λ§Žμ€ κ΅­κ°€
와 지역을 κ°€λ³΄μ…¨λ‚˜μš”?
02:53
I have been to, now, over 90.
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λ‚˜λŠ” 이제 90이 λ„˜μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 90이 λ„˜μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. κ·Έλ ‡μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:57
Over 90, yes.
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02:58
I have not traveled that much.
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λ‚˜λŠ” κ·Έλ ‡κ²Œ 많이 μ—¬ν–‰ν•˜μ§€ μ•Šμ•˜μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:01
And I don’t think many of you have traveled that much,
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그리고 λ‚΄ 생각엔 μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„ 쀑에 κ·Έλ ‡κ²Œ 많이 μ—¬ν–‰ν•΄λ³Έ μ‚¬λžŒμ΄ λ§Žμ§€ μ•Šμ„ 것 같은데,
03:03
so he is amazing.
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ κ·ΈλŠ” 정말 λŒ€λ‹¨ν•΄μš”.
03:04
He can travel the world alone.
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κ·ΈλŠ” ν˜Όμžμ„œ 세계λ₯Ό μ—¬ν–‰ν•  수 μžˆλ‹€.
03:07
You know…
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μ•„μ‹œμ£ β€¦
03:08
No problem.
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문제 μ—†μ–΄μš”.
03:09
There’s no problem.
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문제 μ—†λ‹€.
03:11
Can you tell us what kind of problems you may have when traveling?
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μ—¬ν–‰ν•  λ•Œ μ–΄λ–€ λ¬Έμ œκ°€
λ°œμƒν•  수 μžˆλŠ”μ§€ μ•Œλ €μ£Όμ‹€ 수 μžˆλ‚˜μš”?
03:17
I have been to a lot of poor countries.
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λ‚˜λŠ” κ°€λ‚œν•œ λ‚˜λΌλ₯Ό 많이 κ°€λ΄€μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
그리고 κ°€λ‚œν•œ λ‚˜λΌμ—μ„œλŠ”
03:23
And in poor countries, a lot of people cannot read and write.
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λ§Žμ€ μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ΄ 읽고 쓰지 λͺ»ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μ˜μ‚¬μ†Œν†΅μ„ ν•  λ•Œ 펜과 쒅이λ₯Ό μ‚¬μš©ν•΄μ•Ό ν•˜λŠ”
03:29
So, a lot of the time, when I communicate, I have to use pen and paper.
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κ²½μš°κ°€ λ§ŽμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€
03:35
So when I go up to someone in a poor country to ask for something,
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. κ·Έλž˜μ„œ κ°€λ‚œν•œ λ‚˜λΌμ˜ λˆ„κ΅°κ°€μ—κ²Œ 무엇인가λ₯Ό μ²­ν•˜λŸ¬
갈 λ•Œ , λ‚˜λŠ” 그것을 μ μ–΄λ‘‘λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:41
I write it down.
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03:42
But they cannot read it.
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κ·ΈλŸ¬λ‚˜ 그듀은 그것을 읽을 수 μ—†μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:44
So, I’ve had to adapt to that by miming for example, or drawing a picture.
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ λ‚˜λŠ” 흉내λ₯Ό λ‚΄κ±°λ‚˜
그림을 κ·Έλ¦¬λŠ” λ“± 그것에 적응해야 ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:52
So that’s a good example.
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쒋은 μ˜ˆμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:55
Okay, and what country are planning to travel in the near future?
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μ’‹μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. κ°€κΉŒμš΄ μ‹œμΌ 내에 μ–΄λŠ λ‚˜λΌλ₯Ό μ—¬ν–‰ν•  κ³„νšμΈκ°€μš”?
04:01
There’s so much more of the world that I want to see.
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보고 싢은 세상이 λ„ˆλ¬΄ λ§Žμ•„μš”.
04:05
I’m thinking of going to Mongolia.
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λͺ½κ³¨μ— 갈 μƒκ°μ΄μ—μš”.
04:08
It’s very beautiful.
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맀우 μ•„λ¦„λ‹΅μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 예. 응, μ•Œμ•˜μ–΄.
04:10
Yes.
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04:11
Yes, alright.
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04:12
You have been.
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당신은 κ·Έλž¬μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ €λŠ” λͺ½κ³¨μ— κ°€λ³Έ 적이 μžˆμ–΄μš”. 맀우 μ•„λ¦„λ‹΅μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:13
I’ve been to Mongolia.
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04:14
It’s very beautiful.
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04:16
And, yes, we have traveled...
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그리고, κ·Έλ ‡μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:18
after we met in North Korea.
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μš°λ¦¬λŠ” λΆν•œμ—μ„œ λ§Œλ‚œ 후에 여행을 ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€
04:21
We have traveled to other countries.
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. μš°λ¦¬λŠ” λ‹€λ₯Έ λ‚˜λΌλ₯Ό μ—¬ν–‰ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:23
We've traveled to Sri Lanka and Maldives together.
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μš°λ¦¬λŠ” μŠ€λ¦¬λž‘μΉ΄μ™€ λͺ°λ””λΈŒλ₯Ό ν•¨κ»˜ μ—¬ν–‰ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 예.
04:26
Yes.
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04:27
And in the future we will travel to more countries.
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그리고 μ•žμœΌλ‘œ μš°λ¦¬λŠ” 더 λ§Žμ€ λ‚˜λΌλ₯Ό μ—¬ν–‰ν•  κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:32
Alright, thank you very much, Stephen.
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μ•Œμ•˜μ–΄, 정말 κ³ λ§ˆμ›Œμš”, μŠ€ν‹°λΈ.
04:34
You’re welcome.
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04:35
I’m very happy you did this.
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μ²œλ§Œμ—μš”.
당신이 μ΄λ ‡κ²Œ ν•΄μ„œ 정말 κΈ°λ»μš”.
04:37
And you shared a part of your life with our viewers.
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그리고 당신은 μ‹œμ²­μžλ“€κ³Ό λ‹Ήμ‹ μ˜ μ‚Άμ˜ 일뢀λ₯Ό κ³΅μœ ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:40
And your struggles traveling around the world.
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그리고 당신은 μ „ 세계λ₯Ό μ—¬ν–‰ν•˜λ©΄μ„œ κ³ κ΅°λΆ„νˆ¬ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:44
And learning and speaking English.
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그리고 μ˜μ–΄λ₯Ό 배우고 λ§ν•˜λŠ” κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:47
So thank you very much.
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정말 κ°μ‚¬ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:48
Yeah.
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응.
04:49
Alright, thank you everyone for watching.
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λ„€, μ‹œμ²­ν•΄ μ£Όμ…”μ„œ κ°μ‚¬ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:51
And I’ll see you next time.
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그리고 λ‹€μŒμ— λ΅™κ² μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
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