Hackers: the internet's immune system | Keren Elazari

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譯者: Jennifer Lin 審譯者: William Choi
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Four years ago,
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四年前,
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a security researcher,
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一位安全研究員,
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or, as most people would call it, a hacker,
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或者,大部分人會稱之為駭客,
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found a way to literally
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找到一個讓自動提款機
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make ATMs throw money at him.
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向他吐鈔的方法,
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His name was Barnaby Jack,
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他的名字叫巴拿比傑克 (Barnaby Jack),
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and this technique was later called "jackpotting"
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而這個技巧後來被稱為「傑克的大奬」,
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in his honor.
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以表揚他的貢獻。
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I'm here today because I think
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今天,我到這裡來, 是因為我認為
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we actually need hackers.
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我們其實很需要駭客,
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Barnaby Jack
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巴拿比傑克
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could have easily turned
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所擁有的能力
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into a career criminal or James Bond villain
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很容易會讓他成為一個職業罪犯,
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with his knowledge,
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或是占士邦電影中的反派角色,
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but he chose to show the world
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但他反而選擇向世界
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his research instead.
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展現他的研究。
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He believed that sometimes
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他相信有時候,
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you have to demo a threat
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你必須展現一種威脅,
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to spark a solution.
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才能激發出一個解決的方案。
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And I feel the same way.
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我也抱持同樣的看法,
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That's why I'm here today.
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這是我今天在這裡的原因。
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We are often terrified and fascinated
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我們常常害怕駭客的能力
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by the power hackers now have.
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或對之感到著迷,
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They scare us.
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他們讓我們感到害怕。
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But the choices they make
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然而,他們所作的選擇
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have dramatic outcomes
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卻會帶來戲劇結果,
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that influence us all.
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影響著我們大家的。
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So I am here today because I think we need hackers,
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今天我來到這裡就是因為 我認為我們需要駭客,
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and in fact, they just might be
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而事實上,他們很可能就是
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the immune system for the information age.
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這個資訊時代中的免疫系統,
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Sometimes they make us sick,
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有時候他們讓我們頭痛,
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but they also find those hidden threats
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但他們同時會在我們的世界中
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in our world,
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找出潛在威脅,
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and they make us fix it.
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迫使我們處理好。
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I knew that I might get hacked
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我知道我可能因為這場演講
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for giving this talk,
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而成為駭客的目標,
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so let me save you the effort.
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因此讓我為你們省點力氣。
01:48
In true TED fashion,
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以TED的獨特模式,
01:50
here is my most embarrassing picture.
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這是我最丟臉的照片,
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But it would be difficult for you to find me in it,
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但是你應該無法輕易 在照片中找到我,
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because I'm the one who looks like a boy
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因為我就是那個站在旁邊,
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standing to the side.
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看起來像個男孩子的,
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I was such a nerd back then
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那時候我是個書呆子,
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that even the boys on the Dungeons and Dragons team
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連「龍與地下城」團隊中的男孩子
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wouldn't let me join.
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都不會讓我加入,
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This is who I was,
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這就是以前的我。
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but this is who I wanted to be:
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但這才是我想成為的人:
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Angelina Jolie.
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安潔莉娜‧裘莉
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She portrayed Acid Burn
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她在1995年的電影《黑客》中
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in the '95 film "Hackers."
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飾演駭客阿斯波恩(Acid Burn),
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She was pretty and she could rollerblade,
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她既漂亮又會溜直排輪,
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but being a hacker, that made her powerful.
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可是駭客的身分令她更有力量,
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And I wanted to be just like her,
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我想成為她那樣,
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so I started spending a lot of time
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所以我開始花很多時間
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on hacker chat rooms and online forums.
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流連於線上的駭客聊天室 和網路論壇,
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I remember one late night
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我記得有一晚深夜中,
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I found a bit of PHP code.
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找到一段PHP程式碼,
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I didn't really know what it did,
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我並不知道它具體的作用,
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but I copy-pasted it
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但我還是把它
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and used it anyway
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複製—轉貼
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to get into a password-protected site
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到一個密碼保護的網站,
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like that.
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就像這樣,
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Open Sesame.
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芝麻開門!
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It was a simple trick,
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這是一個簡單的招數,
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and I was just a script kiddie back then,
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當時我只是一個駭客初學者,
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but to me, that trick,
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可是那招對我來說,
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it felt like this,
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感覺就像這樣,
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like I had discovered limitless potential
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就像在我的指尖下發現
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at my fingertips.
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無限的潛能,
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This is the rush of power that hackers feel.
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這是駭客會感到擁有能力的快感,
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It's geeks just like me
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像我這種書呆子
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discovering they have access to superpower,
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發現自己擁有超人般的能力,
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one that requires the skill and tenacity
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一種需要個人智慧
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of their intellect,
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之才能與堅持的能力,
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but thankfully no radioactive spiders.
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幸好不需受輻射感染的蜘蛛。
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But with great power
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但是能力越大,
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comes great responsibility,
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責任也越大,
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and you all like to think that if we had such powers,
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而你們都會希望 即使我們擁有這樣的能力,
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we would only use them for good.
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也只會用在好的方面。
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But what if you could read your ex's emails,
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但如果你可以閱讀前男友的信件,
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or add a couple zeros to your bank account.
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或是把你的銀行餘額中 多加上幾個零,
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What would you do then?
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那你會怎麼做呢?
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Indeed, many hackers do not resist
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的確,有不少駭客無法抗拒
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those temptations,
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這些誘惑,
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and so they are responsible in one way or another
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因此他們或多或少
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to billions of dollars lost each year
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需要為每年因詐騙、惡意程式 或是普通的身份盜竊,
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to fraud, malware or plain old identity theft,
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而損失的數十億美元負起責任,
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which is a serious issue.
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這的確是個嚴重的問題。
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But there are other hackers,
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然而,另外有一些駭客
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hackers who just like to break things,
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他們只想搞一點破壞,
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and it is precisely those hackers
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也正是這樣的駭客
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that can find the weaker elements in our world
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能夠找出世上較脆弱的環節,
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and make us fix it.
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迫使我們把問題處理好。
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This is what happened last year
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這是一件發生在去年的事,
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when another security researcher
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另一位資訊安全研究人員,
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called Kyle Lovett
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名叫凱爾洛維特,
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discovered a gaping hole
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他在你們家裡或公司或會有裝設的
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in the design of certain wireless routers
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無線路由器的設計上
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like you might have in your home or office.
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找到了很大的漏洞,
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He learned that anyone could remotely connect
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他發現任何人都能夠
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to these devices over the Internet
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透過網路遠端連線,
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and download documents from hard drives
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下載連在這些路由器上的硬碟資料,
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attached to those routers,
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下載連在這些路由器上的硬碟資料,
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no password needed.
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完全不需要密碼。
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He reported it to the company, of course,
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他當然把這個發現報告給公司,
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but they ignored his report.
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但他們沒有理會他的報告,
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Perhaps they thought universal access
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或許他們認為普遍網路存取
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was a feature, not a bug,
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是一種特色,不是漏洞,
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until two months ago
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一直到兩個月後,
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when a group of hackers used it
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有一群駭客利用這個漏洞
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to get into people's files.
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去存取人家的檔案,
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But they didn't steal anything.
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但他們並沒有偷走任何資料,
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They left a note:
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他們只是留下一則訊息:
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Your router and your documents
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「你的路由器和你的檔案
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can be accessed by anyone in the world.
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可以被世界上任何人存取,
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Here's what you should do to fix it.
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這是你應當處理的問題。
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We hope we helped.
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希望這對你有幫助!」
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By getting into people's files like that,
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如此存取別人的檔案,
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yeah, they broke the law,
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嗯,他們的確犯了法,
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but they also forced that company
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但他們也迫使這家公司
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to fix their product.
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修正他們的產品,
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Making vulnerabilities known to the public
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使這些漏洞公開曝光,
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is a practice called full disclosure
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在駭客社群中,這是一種
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in the hacker community,
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稱為「全面披露」的做法,
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and it is controversial,
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是頗具爭議性的,
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but it does make me think of how hackers
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但它讓我思考
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have an evolving effect on technologies we use
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駭客是如何逐漸影響著 我們每天所使用的科技,
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every day.
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駭客是如何逐漸影響著 我們每天所使用的科技,
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This is what Khalil did.
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這是哈利勒做的一件事。
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Khalil is a Palestinian hacker from the West Bank,
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哈利勒是一位 來自巴勒斯坦西岸的駭客,
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and he found a serious privacy flaw on Facebook
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他發現了臉書一個嚴重的私隠漏洞,
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which he attempted to report
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於是嘗試透過公司的 程式漏洞賞金計劃報告這事,
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through the company's bug bounty program.
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於是嘗試透過公司的 程式漏洞賞金計劃報告這事,
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These are usually great arrangements for companies
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一般來說,對於能幫忙 找到程式漏洞的駭客,
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to reward hackers disclosing vulnerabilities
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一般來說,對於能幫忙 找到程式漏洞的駭客,
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they find in their code.
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這些公司都會施以重賞。
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Unfortunately, due to some miscommunications,
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不幸地,由於一些溝通問題,
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his report was not acknowledged.
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他的報告沒有獲確認,
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Frustrated with the exchange,
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為此過程感到沮喪,
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he took to use his own discovery
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他把自己的發現,
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to post on Mark Zuckerberg's wall.
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貼在馬克扎克伯格的臉書牆上,
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This got their attention, all right,
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這樣終於獲得他們的關注,
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and they fixed the bug,
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他們也修正了這個漏洞,
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but because he hadn't reported it properly,
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但由於哈利勒沒能依規定報告漏洞,
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he was denied the bounty usually paid out
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臉書拒絕照以往發現 此類漏洞的獎金獎賞他,
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for such discoveries.
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臉書拒絕照以往發現 此類漏洞的獎金獎賞他,
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Thankfully for Khalil,
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還好有一群駭客正觀照著哈利勒,
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a group of hackers were watching out for him.
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還好有一群駭客正觀照著哈利勒,
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In fact, they raised more than 13,000 dollars
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他們為哈利勒籌了超過一萬三千美元
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to reward him for this discovery,
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以酬報他的發現,
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raising a vital discussion in the technology industry
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而在科技產業中引發重要的討論,
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about how we come up with incentives
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關於我們應該如何激勵 駭客去做正當的事,
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for hackers to do the right thing.
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關於我們應該如何激勵 駭客去做正當的事,
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But I think there's a greater story here still.
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但我認為這涉及一個更大的問題,
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Even companies founded by hackers,
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即使由駭客所創辦的公司,
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like Facebook was,
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就如同臉書,
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still have a complicated relationship
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他們仍與駭客抱持著複雜的關係,
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when it comes to hackers.
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他們仍與駭客抱持著複雜的關係,
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And so for more conservative organizations,
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因此對於較傳統組織而言,
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it is going to take time and adapting
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這會需要時間和調整
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in order to embrace hacker culture
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才能擁抱這樣的駭客文化,
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and the creative chaos that it brings with it.
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和伴隨而來的那種 具備創造性的混亂狀態。
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But I think it's worth the effort,
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但我相信這種努力是值得的,
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because the alternative,
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因為另一個選擇,
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to blindly fight all hackers,
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也就是盲目地打擊所有的駭客,
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is to go against the power you cannot control
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對抗著你無法掌控的力量,
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at the cost of stifling innovation
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並因此扼殺創新和規範知識為代價,
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and regulating knowledge.
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並因此扼殺創新和規範知識為代價,
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These are things that will come back and bite you.
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這些東西只會回頭來咬你一口,
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It is even more true
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這樣會變得更為嚴重,
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if we go after hackers
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如果我們針對那些
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that are willing to risk their own freedom
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為了網路自由之理念,
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for ideals like the freedom of the web,
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而願意犧牲自由的駭客份子,
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especially in times like this, like today even,
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尤其是在這種時候, 甚至包括此時此刻,
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as governments and corporates
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當政府和企業
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fight to control the Internet.
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都在掙著要控制網路的時候。
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I find it astounding
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我認為這是很不可思議的:
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that someone from the shadowy corners of cyberspace
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來自網路世界裡陰暗角落的人,
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can become its voice of opposition,
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竟然能夠成為反抗的聲音,
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its last line of defense even,
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甚至是反抗的最後的一道防線,
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perhaps someone like Anonymous,
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就如同「匿名者」—
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the leading brand of global hacktivism.
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全球駭客行動主義的代表象徵。
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This universal hacker movement
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這股全球的駭客運動
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needs no introduction today,
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現在已不需再多的介紹了,
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but six years ago
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但六年前,他們只不過是
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they were not much more than an Internet subculture
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網路上的一種次文化,
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dedicated to sharing silly pictures of funny cats
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投入於分享好笑的貓咪照片,
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and Internet trolling campaigns.
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以及進行集體網路洗板活動。
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Their moment of transformation was in early 2008
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他們在2008年初轉型,
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when the Church of Scientology
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當時「山達基教會」試圖 要從某些網站
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attempted to remove certain leaked videos
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當時「山達基教會」試圖 要從某些網站
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from appearing on certain websites.
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移除外洩的影片。
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This is when Anonymous was forged
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這是從幾個看似隨機湊成的向民中,
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out of the seemingly random collection
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「匿名者」被打造出來的時候。
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of Internet dwellers.
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「匿名者」被打造出來的時候。
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It turns out,
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原來,網路並不喜歡你
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the Internet doesn't like it
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原來,網路並不喜歡你
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when you try to remove things from it,
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移除它的東西,
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and it will react with cyberattacks
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它會以各種方式反抗,
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and elaborate pranks
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如網絡攻擊和高明的惡作劇,
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and with a series of organized protests
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以及全球發起的一系列組織性抗爭,
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all around the world,
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以及全球發起的一系列組織性抗爭,
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from my hometown of Tel Aviv
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來自我的故鄉特拉維夫
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to Adelaide, Australia.
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到澳洲阿得萊德,
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This proved that Anonymous and this idea
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這證明了「匿名者」及這樣的概念
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can rally the masses from the keyboards
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能夠將眾人從鍵盤前
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to the streets,
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集結到街上,
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and it laid the foundations
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它也為了後續幾個線上和真實生活中
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for dozens of future operations
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它也為了後續幾個線上和真實生活中
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against perceived injustices
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因不公平爭議而發起的反抗行動鋪路,
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to their online and offline world.
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因不公平爭議而發起的反抗行動鋪路,
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Since then, they've gone after many targets.
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自從那個時候,他們鎖定過很多的目標,
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They've uncovered corruption, abuse.
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他們將貪污和濫用掀露,
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They've hacked popes and politicians,
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教皇和政治人物都被他們駭客侵入,
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and I think their effect is larger
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我覺得他們所帶來的效應
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than simple denial of service attacks
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大過於因單純反對而癱瘓網站
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that take down websites
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大過於因單純反對而癱瘓網站
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or even leak sensitive documents.
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甚至洩漏機密文件的攻擊行動。
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I think that, like Robin Hood,
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我認為,就像羅賓漢一樣,
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they are in the business of redistribution,
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他們從事的是「重新分配」的工作,
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but what they are after isn't your money.
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但是他們要的不是你的錢,
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It's not your documents. It's your attention.
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不是你的資料,而是你的關注。
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They grab the spotlight for causes they support,
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他們要的是他們所支持的議題 能夠受到矚目,
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forcing us to take note,
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迫使我們去注意,
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acting as a global magnifying glass
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他們像一個全球放大鏡,
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for issues that we are not as aware of
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放大那些應被關注,
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but perhaps we should be.
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卻往往被我們忽略的的議題,
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They have been called many names
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他們被叫過很多名字
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from criminals to terrorists,
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如犯人和恐怖分子
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and I cannot justify their illegal means,
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我無法替他們所採取的非法手段辯護,
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but the ideas they fight for
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但是他們在爭取的思想
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are ones that matter to us all.
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都與我們息息相關。
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The reality is,
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事實上,駭客的能力不僅是搞破壞,
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hackers can do a lot more than break things.
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事實上,駭客的能力不僅是搞破壞,
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They can bring people together.
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他們能夠將人們團結,
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And if the Internet doesn't like it
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既然網路不喜歡你移除它的東西,
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when you try to remove things from it,
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那請看看當你要將它關閉時,
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just watch what happens
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那請看看當你要將它關閉時,
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when you try to shut the Internet down.
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這會發生什麼事。
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This took place in Egypt in January 2011,
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這發生於埃及,於2011年1月,
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and as President Hosni Mubarak
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當胡斯尼•穆巴拉克總統
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attempted a desperate move
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在窮途末路之際,
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to quash the rising revolution on the streets of Cairo,
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為了鎮壓開鑼街上 逐漸掀起的革命運動,
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he sent his personal troops
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他派了自己的兵 到埃及的網路服務供應商,
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down to Egypt's Internet service providers
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他派了自己的兵 到埃及的網路服務供應商,
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and had them physically kill the switch
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要求他們一夜間 確實切斷國家與世界的聯繫,
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on the country's connection to the world overnight.
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要求他們一夜間 確實切斷國家與世界的聯繫,
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For a government to do a thing like that
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一個政府如此的作為是前所未有的,
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was unprecedented,
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一個政府如此的作為是前所未有的,
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and for hackers, it made it personal.
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而對於駭客來說, 這就結下了私人恩怨。
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Hackers like the Telecomix group
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駭客們如 Telecomix 集團
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were already active on the ground,
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早就在實際行動,
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helping Egyptians bypass censorship
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他們協助埃及人偷渡 越過網路封鎖線,
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using clever workarounds like Morse code
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利用摩斯碼和無線電之類的聰明手法,
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and ham radio.
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利用摩斯碼和無線電之類的聰明手法,
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It was high season for low tech,
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那時正是低科技的高峰期,
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which the government couldn't block,
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是政府無法阻擋的,
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but when the Net went completely down,
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但是當網路完全被封鎖時,
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Telecomix brought in the big guns.
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Telecomix 就大規模出擊了。
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They found European service providers
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他們找到使用了20年
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that still had 20-year-old
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現在仍用著的 模擬撥號服務設備的
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analog dial-up access infrastructure.
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數家歐洲服務供應商,
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They opened up 300 of those lines
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他們開通了300條線路
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for Egyptians to use,
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供埃及人使用,
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serving slow but sweet Internet connection
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為他們供應緩慢 但討人喜歡的網路連線,
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for Egyptians.
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為他們供應緩慢 但討人喜歡的網路連線,
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This worked.
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這就成功了,
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It worked so well, in fact,
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甚至成功到有人還利用它
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one guy even used it to download an episode
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下載了一集的
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of "How I Met Your Mother."
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「追愛總動員」 (How I Met Your Mother)。
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But while Egypt's future is still uncertain,
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然而,在埃及的未來仍不明的時候,
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when the same thing happened in Syria
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一年後,敘利亞也發生著同樣的事,
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just one year later,
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一年後,敘利亞也發生著同樣的事,
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Telecomix were prepared with those Internet lines,
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Telecomix早就準備好 那些網路連線,
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and Anonymous,
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而「匿名者」應該是第一批
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they were perhaps the first international group
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而「匿名者」應該是第一批
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to officially denounce the actions
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為了公開指責敘利亞軍方的作為
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of the Syrian military
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而入侵毀壞他們網站的國際團體。
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by defacing their website.
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而入侵毀壞他們網站的國際團體。
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But with this sort of power,
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但其實這樣的能力,
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it really depends on where you stand,
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真的與你的立場有關,
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because one man's hero
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因為一人心目中的英雄
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can be another's villain,
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可能是另一人心目中的惡棍,
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and so the Syrian Electronic Army
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敘利亞電子軍
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is a pro-Assad group of hackers
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是支持具爭議性的阿薩德政權 的一群駭客份子,
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who support his contentious regime.
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是支持具爭議性的阿薩德政權 的一群駭客份子,
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They've taken down multiple high-profile targets
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在過去幾年中,
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in the past few years,
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他們駭客侵入好幾個知名的目標,
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including the Associated Press's Twitter account,
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包括美聯社的推特帳號,
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in which they posted a message
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並張貼了一則有關攻擊白宮
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about an attack on the White House
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並張貼了一則有關攻擊白宮
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injuring President Obama.
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且歐巴馬總統受傷的訊息。
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This tweet was fake, of course,
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這訊息當然是假的,
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but the resulting drop in the Dow Jones index
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卻造成當天道瓊斯工業平均指數下跌,
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that day was most certainly not,
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這樣就很真實了,
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and a lot of people lost a lot of money.
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讓很多人喪失了很多錢。
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This sort of thing is happening all over the world right now.
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現在全世界都在發生這樣的事情,
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In conflicts from the Crimean Peninsula
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從克里米亞半島到拉丁美洲的爭議,
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to Latin America,
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從克里米亞半島到拉丁美洲的爭議,
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from Europe to the United States,
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從歐洲到美國,
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hackers are a force for social,
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駭客是一股影響社會、 政治和軍事的力量,
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political and military influence.
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駭客是一股影響社會、 政治和軍事的力量,
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As individuals or in groups,
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以個人或團體、志工 或軍事抗爭的身份存在著。
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volunteers or military conflicts,
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以個人或團體、志工 或軍事抗爭的身份存在著。
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there are hackers everywhere.
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駭客無所不在,
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They come from all walks of life,
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他們來自各行各業
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ethnicities, ideologies and genders, I might add.
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各種種族、信仰甚至性別。
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They are now shaping the world's stage.
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他們正在塑造世界的舞台,
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Hackers represent an exceptional force for change
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駭客代表的是改變 21 世紀的 一股獨特的力量,
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in the 21st century.
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駭客代表的是改變 21 世紀的 一股獨特的力量,
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This is because access to information
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這是因為資訊存取
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is a critical currency of power,
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是掌權最重要的籌碼,
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one which governments would like to control,
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是政府想要掌控的,
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a thing they attempt to do by setting up
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為了這個目的,
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all-you-can-eat surveillance programs,
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他們還設置了一項 「吃到飽」監控計畫,
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a thing they need hackers for, by the way.
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順便說,他們需要的就是駭客,
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And so the establishment has long had
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因此,這種制度一直以來
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a love-hate relationship when it comes to hackers,
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都對駭客抱著又愛又恨的關係,
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because the same people who demonize hacking
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因將駭客妖魔化的人
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also utilize it at large.
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是最有效利用他們的同樣一群人。
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Two years ago,
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兩年前,我見到 基思‧亞歷山大將軍,
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I saw General Keith Alexander.
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兩年前,我見到 基思‧亞歷山大將軍,
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He's the NSA director and U.S. cyber commander,
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他是美國國家安全局局長, 也是美國網路司令總監,
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but instead of his four star general uniform,
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但與其穿著四顆星的將軍制服,
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he was wearing jeans and a t-shirt.
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他穿的是牛仔褲和T恤,
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This was at DEF CON,
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這是在 DEF CON,
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the world's largest hacker conference.
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世界上最大的駭客大會,
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Perhaps like me, General Alexander
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或許和我一樣,當天在拉斯維加斯
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didn't see 12,000 criminals that day in Vegas.
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亞歷山大將軍並沒有 看到12,000個壞蛋,
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I think he saw untapped potential.
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我想他看到的是未開發的潛能,
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In fact, he was there to give a hiring pitch.
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事實上,他到那裡是為了要徵人,
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"In this room right here," he said,
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他說:「此時在這裡,
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"is the talent our nation needs."
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有我們國家最需要的才能。」
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Well, hackers in the back row replied,
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嗯,結果在後方的駭客回答他:
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"Then stop arresting us."
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「那就不要再逮捕我們了!」
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(Applause)
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(掌聲)
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Indeed, for years,
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的確,好幾年來,
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hackers have been on the wrong side of the fence,
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駭客一直站在錯誤的一邊,
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but in light of what we know now,
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但依目前我們所看到的,
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who is more watchful of our online world?
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是誰在觀守著我們的網路世界?
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The rules of the game are not that clear anymore,
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遊戲規則已不再明確,
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but hackers are perhaps the only ones
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或許只有駭客才有能力
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still capable of challenging overreaching governments
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去挑戰做事過頭的政府
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and data-hoarding corporates
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和在公平的競爭環境中
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on their own playing field.
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隱匿資訊的企業。
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To me, that represents hope.
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對我而言,那代表的是希望。
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For the past three decades,
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在過去的三十年中,
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hackers have done a lot of things,
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駭客做過很多事情,
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but they have also impacted civil liberties,
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但他們也影響了民權、 創意和網路自由,
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innovation and Internet freedom,
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但他們也影響了民權、 創意和網路自由,
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so I think it's time we take a good look
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所以我覺得這是我們好好思考
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at how we choose to portray them,
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如何看待他們的時候,
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because if we keep expecting them to be the bad guys,
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因為如果我們一直把他們當作壞蛋,
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how can they be the heroes too?
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他們要如何成為英雄呢?
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My years in the hacker world
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我在駭客世界的日子中,
15:46
have made me realize
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讓我瞭解到駭客的魅力和問題,
15:48
both the problem and the beauty about hackers:
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讓我瞭解到駭客的魅力和問題,
15:53
They just can't see something broken in the world
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他們就是無法看著世上的問題,
15:57
and leave it be.
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卻放著不管,
15:58
They are compelled
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他們使不得已利用它,
16:00
to either exploit it or try and change it,
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不然就是試圖改變,
16:03
and so they find the vulnerable aspects
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因此他們能在這快速改變的世界中,
16:07
in our rapidly changing world.
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看到世界脆弱的地方,
16:09
They make us, they force us to fix things
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他們迫使我們把事情處理好,
16:14
or demand something better,
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不然他們要求的就會更好。
16:16
and I think we need them
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我認為這就是他們應該做的,
16:17
to do just that,
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我認為這就是他們應該做的,
16:20
because after all, it is not information
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畢竟,嚮往自由的並不是資訊,
16:23
that wants to be free, it's us.
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而是我們。
16:26
Thank you very much.
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非常感謝大家
16:29
Thank you. (Applause)
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謝謝 (掌聲)
16:32
Hack the planet!
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入侵地球!
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