3 ways to build a happy marriage and avoid divorce | George Blair-West
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譯者: Lilian Chiu
審譯者: SF Huang
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Almost 50 years ago,
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大約五十年前,
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psychiatrists Richard Rahe
and Thomas Holmes developed an inventory
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精神病學家理查.拉希
和湯瑪斯.荷姆斯列出了一張
00:22
of the most distressing
human experiences that we could have.
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排序了人類所能經歷
最痛苦事件的評量表。
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Number one on the list? Death of a spouse.
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排名第一的是什麼經歷?喪偶。
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Number two, divorce.
Three, marital separation.
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第二名:離婚。第三名:分居。
00:35
Now, generally, but not always,
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一般來說,但並不盡然,
00:38
for those three to occur, we need
what comes in number seven on the list,
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上述三種狀況會發生的前提是
先要有排行第七名的經歷:
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which is marriage.
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婚姻。
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
00:46
Fourth on the list is imprisonment
in an institution.
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第四名是被監禁在一個機構中。
00:51
Now, some say number seven
has been counted twice.
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有人說這和第七名的項目重覆了。
00:54
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
00:58
I don't believe that.
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我不這麼認為。
01:00
When the life stress inventory was built,
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在人生壓力量表出現的那個時代,
01:04
back then, a long-term relationship
pretty much equated to a marriage.
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一段長期的關係就等同於婚姻。
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Not so now.
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現在就不見得了。
所以在這場演說中,
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So for the purposes of this talk,
I'm going to be including
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我會納入……
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de facto relationships,
common-law marriages
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同居關係、普通法婚姻、
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and same-sex marriages,
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同性婚姻,
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or same-sex relationships
soon hopefully to become marriages.
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或是有希望很快就能
變成婚姻的同性關係。
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And I can say from my work
with same-sex couples,
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根據我在工作中
和同性伴侶的互動瞭解,
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the principles I'm about
to talk about are no different.
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我可以說接下來要談的原則
不會因性向而有所不同。
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They're the same across all relationships.
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這些原則適用於各種關係。
01:35
So in a modern society,
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在現代社會,
01:38
we know that prevention
is better than cure.
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我們都知道預防勝於治療。
01:42
We vaccinate against polio, diphtheria,
tetanus, whooping cough, measles.
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我們打疫苗來預防小兒麻痺、
白喉、破傷風、百日咳、麻疹。
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We have awareness campaigns
for melanoma, stroke, diabetes --
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對於黑色素瘤、中風、糖尿病,
我們都有舉辦宣導活動——
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all important campaigns.
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都是重要的活動。
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But none of those conditions come close
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但這些疾病沒有一樣會影響到
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to affecting 45 percent of us.
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45% 的我們。
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Forty-five percent: that's
our current divorce rate.
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45%:那是我們目前的離婚率。
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Why no prevention campaign for divorce?
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為什麼沒有針對離婚做的預防活動?
02:11
Well, I think it's because
our policymakers don't believe
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我認為原因是因為
我們的政策制訂者不相信
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that things like attraction
and the way relationships are built
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吸引力和營建關係等這類東西,
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is changeable or educable.
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是可以改變或可以教育的。
02:25
Why?
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為什麼?
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Well, our policymakers currently
are Generation X.
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目前,我們的政策制訂者
是 X 世代的人。
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They're in their 30s to 50s.
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他們年約三十幾歲到五十幾歲。
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And when I'm talking to these guys
about these issues,
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當我和他們談到這些議題時,
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I see their eyes glaze over,
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我會看到他們目光變呆滯,
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and I can see them thinking,
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我知道他們在想:
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"Doesn't this crazy psychiatrist get it?
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「這個瘋精神病學家難道不懂嗎?
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You can't control the way in which
people attract other people
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我們無法控制人與人相互吸引
以及建立關係的方式。」
02:49
and build relationships."
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02:52
Not so, our dear millennials.
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不是這樣的,親愛的千禧世代。
02:55
This is the most information-connected,
analytical and skeptical generation,
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這是資訊連結最緊密、最具分析
和懷疑精神的世代,
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making the most informed decisions
of any generation before them.
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比起先前的任何世代都能
做出更明智的決策。
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And when I talk to millennials,
I get a very different reaction.
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當我和千禧世代談話時,
我得到非常不同的反應。
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They actually want to hear about this.
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他們會很想要聽這件事。
他們想知道我們如何
才能維持長久的關係?
03:12
They want to know about how do we
have relationships that last?
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03:18
So for those of you who want to embrace
the post- "romantic destiny" era with me,
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所以,如果你想和我一起
擁抱後「浪漫邂逅」時代,
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let me talk about my three life hacks
for preventing divorce.
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讓我來談談避免離婚的
三項人生秘技。
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Now, we can intervene
to prevent divorce at two points:
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我們可在以下的兩個時點
介入以預防離婚:
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later, once the cracks begin to appear
in an established relationship;
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後期,在已確立的關係出現裂痕時;
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or earlier, before we commit,
before we have children.
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或早期,在做出承諾之前,
在生孩子之前。
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And that's where I'm going to take us now.
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我現在就要來跟大家談談這些。
03:46
So my first life hack:
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所以,我的第一項人生秘技:
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millennials spend seven-plus hours
on their devices a day.
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千禧世代每天會花七個小時以上
在他們的電子裝置。
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That's American data.
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那是美國的資料。
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And some say, probably not unreasonably,
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有些人認為,可能不無道理,
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this has probably affected
their face-to-face relationships.
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這個現象可能會影響到
他們面對面的關係。
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Indeed, and add to that
the hookup culture,
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的確,再加上配對文化,
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ergo apps like Tinder,
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Tinder 這類約會應用程式,
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and it's no great surprise that
the 20-somethings that I work with
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我並不意外,當工作上
遇到的二十多歲年輕人
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will often talk to me about
how it is often easier for them
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常常會跟我談到,
通常對他們來說,和認識的人上床
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to have sex with somebody that they've met
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04:18
than have a meaningful conversation.
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比和他們做有意義的談話更為容易。
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Now, some say this is a bad thing.
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有些人認為這不是好事。
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I say this is a really good thing.
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我會說這是件很好的事。
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It's a particularly good thing
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特別好的一點就是
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to be having sex outside
of the institution of marriage.
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能夠在婚姻的制度之外發生性行為。
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Now, before you go out
and get all moral on me,
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在你們以道德來訓誡我之前,
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remember that Generation X,
in the American Public Report,
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別忘了,根據美國公眾報告,
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they found that 91 percent of women
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他們發現 X 世代中
有 91% 的女性
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had had premarital sex by the age of 30.
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在三十歲之前就有過婚前性行為。
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Ninety-one percent.
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91%。
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It's a particularly good thing that
these relationships are happening later.
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特別好的一點就是,
關係建立是在之後才發生的。
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See, boomers in the '60s --
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六 ○ 年代嬰兒潮出生的人——
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they were getting married
at an average age for women of 20
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他們平均的結婚年齡是:
女性二十歲,
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and 23 for men.
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男性二十三歲。
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2015 in Australia?
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2015 年澳洲的狀況呢?
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That is now 30 for women and 32 for men.
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女性三十歲,男性三十二歲。
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That's a good thing, because
the older you are when you get married,
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那是件好事,
因為等年紀較長再結婚,
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the lower your divorce rate.
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你的離婚率會比較低。
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Why?
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為什麼?為什麼
晚點結婚是有幫助的?
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Why is it helpful to get married later?
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Three reasons.
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有三個理由。第一:
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Firstly, getting married later allows
the other two preventers of divorce
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晚婚能讓另外兩項
預防離婚的元素發揮作用。
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to come into play.
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They are tertiary education
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這兩項元素分別是高等教育
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and a higher income, which tends
to go with tertiary education.
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及更高的收入,
這項通常和高等教育有關。
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So these three factors all
kind of get mixed up together.
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所以這三個因子彼此都有些關聯。
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Number two,
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第二,
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neuroplasticity research tell us
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神經可塑性研究告訴我們,
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that the human brain is still growing
until at least the age of 25.
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人類大腦會一直成長到
至少二十五歲。
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So that means how you're thinking
and what you're thinking
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那就表示你的思考方式和思考內容
在二十五歲之前仍然在改變。
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is still changing up until 25.
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And thirdly, and most importantly
to my mind, is personality.
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第三,也是我認為最重要的,
就是人格。
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Your personality at the age of 20
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你在二十歲時的人格
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does not correlate with
your personality at the age of 50.
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和你在五十歲時的人格
並沒有相關性。
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But your personality at the age of 30
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但你在三十歲時的人格
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does correlate with
your personality at the age of 50.
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和你在五十歲時的
人格確實有相關性。
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So when I ask somebody
who got married young why they broke up,
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當我問早婚的人,為什麼會分手 ?
他們會說:「我們漸行漸遠。」
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and they say, "We grew apart,"
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they're being surprisingly accurate,
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這說法其實非常正確,
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because the 20s is a decade
of rapid change and maturation.
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因為二十多歲,
是快速改變和成熟的時期。
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So the first thing you want to get
before you get married is older.
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所以,想結婚前你該做的
第一件事就是:變老。
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
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Number two,
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第二,
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John Gottman, psychologist
and relationship researcher,
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約翰.高特曼是位心理學家
和關係研究者,
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can tell us many factors that correlate
with a happy, successful marriage.
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能告訴我們許多快樂、
成功婚姻的相關要素。
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But the one that I want to talk about
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但我想要談的是一個重大要素,
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is a big one:
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81 percent of marriages implode,
self-destruct, if this problem is present.
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如果有這個問題出現,
81% 的婚姻都會潰堤
導致自我毀滅。
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And the second reason why I want
to talk about it here
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我想要在這裡談它的第二個理由
是因為你在約會時就可以評估它。
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is because it's something
you can evaluate while you're dating.
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07:03
Gottman found that the relationships
that were the most stable and happy
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高特曼發現,
最穩定、快樂且較長久的關係,
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over the longer term
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were relationships in which
the couple shared power.
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是夫妻能夠共享權力的婚姻。
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They were influenceable:
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他們能相互影響:
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big decisions, like buying a house,
overseas trips, buying a car,
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重大決策,比如買房子、
出國旅行、買車子、
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having children.
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生孩子。
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But when Gottman
drilled down on this data,
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但當高特曼深入分析這些資料,
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what he found was that women
were generally pretty influenceable.
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他發現女性通常很容易受影響。
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Guess where the problem lay?
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猜猜問題在哪裡?
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
07:36
Yeah, there's only
two options here, isn't there?
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是的,只有兩個選項,對吧?
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Yeah, we men were to blame.
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是的,要怪我們男人。
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The other thing that Gottman found
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高特曼還有一項發現,
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is that men who are influenceable
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能夠受影響的男性
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also tended to be "outstanding fathers."
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也傾向會成為「出色的爸爸」。
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So women: How influenceable is your man?
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所以,女性們:妳的男人
會受妳多少的影響?
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Men:
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男性們:
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you're with her because you respect her.
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你和她在一起是因為你尊重她,
08:07
Make sure that respect plays out
in the decision-making process.
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請確保自己在做決策的過程中
也能展現出那份尊重。
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Number three.
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第三,
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I'm often intrigued by
why couples come in to see me
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通常我很好奇那些已經有
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after they've been married
for 30 or 40 years.
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三十或四十年婚齡的夫妻,
為何還來找我。
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This is a time when they're approaching
the infirmities and illness of old age.
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這是他們面臨體弱和疾病的高齡期。
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It's a time when they're particularly
focused on caring for each other.
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這個是他們會特別重視
照護彼此的時期。
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They'll forgive things
that have bugged them for years.
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他們會寬恕那些多年來
煩擾他們的事情。
08:40
They'll forgive all betrayals,
even infidelities,
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他們會寬恕背叛,甚至不忠,
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because they're focused
on caring for each other.
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因為他們把焦點放在照顧彼此。
所以,是什麼讓他們分離?
08:46
So what pulls them apart?
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08:47
The best word I have
for this is reliability,
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我能想到最理想的詞是:可靠度,
08:50
or the lack thereof.
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或是說缺乏可靠度。
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Does your partner have your back?
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你的另一半能當你的靠山嗎?
這有兩種形式。
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It takes two forms.
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08:55
Firstly, can you rely on your partner
to do what they say they're going to do?
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第一,你能不能仰賴你的另一半,
相信他會說到做到?
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Do they follow through?
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他們能堅持到底嗎?
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Secondly,
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第二,
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if, for example,
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舉例來說,
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you're out and you're being
verbally attacked by somebody,
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若你在外面被人言語攻擊,
09:10
or you're suffering from
a really disabling illness,
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或是你得了失能的疾病,
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does your partner step up
and do what needs to be done
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你的另一半會義無反顧地
扛起保護和照顧的責任,
09:19
to leave you feeling
cared for and protected?
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讓你感受到關愛與呵護?
09:23
And here's the rub:
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困難處在這裡:
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if you're facing old age,
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如果你步入老年,
09:27
and your partner
isn't doing that for you --
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而你的另一半沒有為你做這些——
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in fact, you're having
to do that for them --
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事實上,是你得要為他們做這些 ——
09:32
then in an already-fragile relationship,
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那麼,在已經很脆弱的關係中,
09:35
it can look a bit like you might
be better off out of it rather than in it.
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你可能就會覺得,脫離關係
會比留在關係中更好些。
09:41
So is your partner there for you
when it really matters?
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所以,
在重要的時刻,
你的另一半會陪在你身邊嗎?
09:49
Not all the time, 80 percent of the time,
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不用隨時都在,
80% 的時候要在,
09:51
but particularly if it's important to you.
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特別是對你而言很重要的時候。
09:55
On your side, think carefully before you
commit to do something for your partner.
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在你這一邊,
在你對另一半承諾之前要謹慎思考。
10:01
It is much better to commit to
as much as you can follow through
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量力而為地履行承諾,
10:05
than to commit to more
sound-good-in-the-moment
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比輕諾寡信卻事後讓人失望,
10:08
and then let them down.
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要好太多。
10:14
And if it's really important
to your partner, and you commit to it,
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如果你承諾了某件對你的
另一半而言是很重要的事,
10:18
make sure you move hell
and high water to follow through.
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要確保自己就算上刀山
下油鍋也得堅持到底。
10:21
Now, these are things
that I'm saying you can look for.
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這些是你們可以注意的事情。
10:24
Don't worry, these are also
things that can be built
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別擔心,這些在現存的關係中,
10:27
in existing relationships.
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也可以建構出來。
10:32
I believe that the most important decision
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我相信,你所能做出
10:37
that you can make
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最重要的決策
10:38
is who you choose as a life partner,
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就是選擇人生的伴侶,
10:43
who you choose as
the other parent of your children.
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你要選擇誰來當孩子的家長?
10:47
And of course, romance has to be there.
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當然,一定要有愛情的成分。
10:49
Romance is a grand and beautiful
and quirky thing.
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愛情是種令人愉悅、美好
卻又變幻莫測的東西。
10:54
But we need to add
to a romantic, loving heart
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但除了要有浪漫、懂愛的心之外,
10:59
an informed, thoughtful mind,
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我們還要有顆明智細心的大腦,
11:03
as we make the most important
decision of our life.
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才能為我們的人生
做出最重要的決策。
11:06
Thank you.
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謝謝。
11:07
(Applause)
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