Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie: We should all be feminists | TED

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譯者: Ming Lee 審譯者: Yanyan Hong
00:12
So I would like to start by telling you about one of my greatest friends,
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今天我想從我最好的朋友開始講起,
00:17
Okoloma Maduewesi.
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他名子是奧克拉荷馬.瑪督韋希。
00:19
Okoloma lived on my street
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奧克拉荷馬住在我街上,
00:21
and looked after me like a big brother.
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像位大哥那樣照顧我。
00:23
If I liked a boy, I would ask Okoloma's opinion.
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如果我喜歡上一個男生, 我會徵詢奧克拉荷馬的意見。
00:27
Okoloma died in the notorious Sosoliso plane crash
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他死於奈及利亞惡名昭彰的 「索索利索航空公司」空難事件中,
00:31
in Nigeria in December of 2005.
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時間是 2005 年 12 月。
00:34
Almost exactly seven years ago.
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至今已經快七年了。
00:37
Okoloma was a person I could argue with, laugh with and truly talk to.
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我跟他無所不談, 他是我真正可以談心的朋友。
00:43
He was also the first person to call me a feminist.
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也是第一個稱我為 「女權主義者」的人。
00:47
I was about fourteen, we were at his house, arguing.
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那時我 14 歲, 在他的家為某些事在爭論。
00:50
Both of us bristling with half bit knowledge
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為了書中的事爭得面紅耳赤, 彼此都是一知半解。
00:53
from books that we had read.
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00:55
I don't remember what this particular argument was about,
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我已忘了當時吵的是什麼,
00:59
but I remember that as I argued and argued,
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但是我記得在爭論過程中 他看著我說:
01:01
Okoloma looked at me and said, "You know, you're a feminist."
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「知道嗎?妳真的是個女權主義者!」
01:05
It was not a compliment.
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那不是誇獎。
01:06
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
01:08
I could tell from his tone,
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從他的語氣我就知道,
01:09
the same tone that you would use to say something like,
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大概類似於你們會用來說
01:12
"You're a supporter of terrorism."
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「妳是恐怖主義的支持者」那樣。
01:14
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
01:17
I did not know exactly what this word "feminist" meant,
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我當時不了解 「女權主義者」真正的意思,
01:20
and I did not want Okoloma to know that I did not know.
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更不想讓他知道我不懂那個字眼。
01:24
So I brushed it aside, and I continued to argue.
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所以我沒接他的話, 繼續爭論之前的話。
01:27
And the first thing I planned to do when I got home
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等我回家後做的第一件事,
01:29
was to look up the word "feminist" in the dictionary.
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就是查字典裡「女權主義者」的意思。
01:32
Now fast forward to some years later,
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現在讓我把時間往後快轉幾年,
01:35
I wrote a novel about a man who among other things beats his wife
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我寫了一本描述 一個男人毆打老婆的書,
01:39
and whose story doesn't end very well.
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主角最後的下場不是很好。
01:42
While I was promoting the novel in Nigeria,
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當我在奈及利亞為小說進行宣傳時,
01:44
a journalist, a nice, well-meaning man,
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有位好心善良的記者,
01:47
told me he wanted to advise me.
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告訴我他想給我一點建議。
01:51
And for the Nigerians here,
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我想在座的奈及利亞人
01:52
I'm sure we're all familiar
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一定都很了解那種不請自來
01:53
with how quick our people are to give unsolicited advice.
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熱於提供建議的人速度有多快;
02:01
He told me that people were saying that my novel was feminist
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他說人們覺得我的小說是女權主義。
02:05
and his advice to me --
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並且他建議我,
02:06
and he was shaking his head sadly as he spoke --
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搖著頭帶點悲傷的說,
02:09
was that I should never call myself a feminist
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我不應該再提及自己是個女權主義者,
02:12
because feminists are women who are unhappy
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因為女權主義者都是不開心的女人,
02:14
because they cannot find husbands.
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因為她們找不到丈夫。
02:16
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
02:21
So I decided to call myself "a happy feminist."
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所以我決定自稱為 「快樂的女權主義者」。
02:24
Then an academic, a Nigerian woman told me
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然後又有一位奈及利亞的 女性學者告訴我,
02:27
that feminism was not our culture
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女權主義不是我們的文化,
02:29
and that feminism wasn't African,
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女權主義也不是非洲的。
02:30
and that I was calling myself a feminist
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她說我自稱女權主義者的原因
02:32
because I had been corrupted by "Western books."
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是因為我被「西方的書」腐化了。
02:35
Which amused me,
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她說的話讓我啼笑皆非,
02:37
because a lot of my early readings were decidedly unfeminist.
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因為我以前讀的書 絕大多數與女權主義無關。
02:40
I think I must have read every single Mills & Boon romance published
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我在 16 歲以前幾乎已讀完
「米爾思·布恩出版社」的 每一本浪漫小說。
02:43
before I was sixteen.
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02:45
And each time I tried to read those books
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每當我閱讀那些關於 「女權主義寶典」書籍的時候,
02:47
called "the feminist classics,"
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02:49
I'd get bored, and I really struggled to finish them.
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我都會覺得很無聊,很難唸完。
02:52
But anyway, since feminism was un-African,
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但是不管怎樣, 既然女權主義不是非洲的,
02:55
I decided that I would now call myself "a happy African feminist."
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所以現在我都自稱 是「快樂的非洲女權主義者」,
02:59
At some point I was a happy African feminist who does not hate men
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過去某段日子我並不討厭男人, 我是快樂的非洲女權主義者,
03:04
and who likes lip gloss
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也喜歡擦口紅,
03:05
and who wears high heels for herself but not for men.
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隨興為自己穿高跟鞋, 而不是穿給男人看。
03:07
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
03:09
Of course a lot of this was tongue-in-cheek,
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當然上述許多都是玩笑話,
03:11
but that word feminist is so heavy with baggage, negative baggage.
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但是「女權主義者」本身這個字眼 帶有很沉重、很負面的包袱。
03:16
You hate men, you hate bras,
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好比是「妳討厭男人, 妳不喜歡穿胸罩,
03:18
you hate African culture, that sort of thing.
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妳厭惡非洲文化」那些觀念。
03:22
Now here's a story from my childhood.
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我要講一個小時候的故事。
03:24
When I was in primary school,
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當我上小學的時候,
03:26
my teacher said at the beginning of term that she would give the class a test
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開學時我的老師說會有一個考試,
03:31
and whoever got the highest score would be the class monitor.
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誰的分數最高誰就可以當班長。
03:34
Now, class monitor was a big deal.
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你也知道,當班長是件了不起的事。
03:37
If you were a class monitor,
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假如你是班長,
03:38
you got to write down the names of noisemakers --
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你就可以把講話的名字登記下來。
03:41
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
03:42
which was having enough power of its own.
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那個權力可大。
03:46
But my teacher would also give you a cane to hold in your hand
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而且我的老師還會給班長拿根教鞭,
03:51
while you walk around and patrol the class for noisemakers.
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讓他拿著教鞭在班上 走動監督搗亂的人。
03:55
Now, of course you were not actually allowed to use the cane.
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當然,使用教鞭打人是不被允許的。
03:58
But it was an exciting prospect for the nine-year-old me.
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不過對 9 歲的我實在很有激勵,
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I very much wanted to be the class monitor.
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因為我非常想當班長。
04:04
And I got the highest score on the test.
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而且我也考上第一名的成績。
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Then, to my surprise, my teacher said that the monitor had to be a boy.
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聽到老師說: 「班長必須是個男生」我非常訝異。
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She had forgotten to make that clear earlier
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她早該在考試前就先說清楚才對, 但是她以為大家都知道。
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because she assumed it was ... obvious.
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04:16
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
04:18
A boy had the second highest score on the test,
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成績第二名的是位男孩,
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and he would be monitor.
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結果他變成了班長。
04:23
Now, what was even more interesting about this
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更有意思的是:
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is that the boy was a sweet, gentle soul
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那個男孩個性善良又溫和,
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who had no interest in patrolling the class with the cane,
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對於拿著教鞭在班上巡邏毫無興趣,
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while I was full of ambition to do so.
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而我則充滿野心渴望當班長,
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But I was female and he was male,
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但我是女生他是男生,
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and so he became the class monitor.
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所以他當上了班長。
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And I've never forgotten that incident.
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這件事情我一輩子忘不了。
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I often make the mistake of thinking
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這是我常犯的錯誤想法:
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that something that is obvious to me is just as obvious to everyone else.
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總是以為我懂的道理,別人應該也懂。
04:51
Now, take my dear friend Louis
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舉我的好朋友路易士為例。
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for example.
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04:54
Louis is a brilliant, progressive man,
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他是位聰明上進的男人,
04:56
and we would have conversations and he would tell me,
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會在我們聊天的時候說:
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"I don't know what you mean by things being different or harder for women.
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「我不懂妳為什麼總是說 事情對女人而言不同且更難。
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Maybe in the past, but not now."
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也許過去情況是那樣, 但現在已經不同了。」
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And I didn't understand how Louis could not see what seems so self-evident.
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我不理解他怎麼會看不清楚 那些不言而喻的事情。
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Then one evening, in Lagos, Louis and I went out with friends.
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有天晚上我跟他 在拉哥斯市與朋友聚會。
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And for people here who are not familiar with Lagos,
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在座可能有人不太熟悉拉哥斯市,
05:16
there's that wonderful Lagos' fixture,
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這個城市有個特別美的地方,
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the sprinkling of energetic men who hang around outside establishments
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就是這裡的人 散佈在各處且充滿活力,
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and very dramatically "help" you park your car.
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會很熱心地「幫」你泊車。
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I was impressed with the particular theatrics
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我那天傍晚對幫我們 找到停車位的男士,
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of the man who found us a parking spot that evening.
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戲劇性的舉止感到非常滿意。
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And so as we were leaving, I decided to leave him a tip.
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所以當我下車後, 決定給他一點小費。
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I opened my bag,
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於是我打開皮包,
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put my hand inside my bag,
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把手伸進裡面,
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brought out my money that I had earned from doing my work,
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拿出我的錢,這是我工作賺來的錢。
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and I gave it to the man.
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然後給了那個男士,
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And he, this man who was very grateful and very happy,
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這個男士很感激也很開心,
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took the money from me,
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從我手裡把錢拿過去,
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looked across at Louis
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然後把轉向路易士說:
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and said, "Thank you, sir!"
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05:56
(Laughter)
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「謝謝您,先生!」
(笑聲)
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Louis looked at me, surprised,
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路易士很驚訝的看著我說:
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and asked, "Why is he thanking me? I didn't give him the money."
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「他為什麼謝我?又不是我給的錢。」
06:10
Then I saw realization dawn on Louis' face.
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然後我看到路易士 臉上恍然大悟的樣子。
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The man believed that whatever money I had
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那個男士一定是這樣想;
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had ultimately come from Louis.
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我的錢肯定都是來自身旁的路易士,
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Because Louis is a man.
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因為路易士是男的;
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Men and women are different.
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男人和女人是不同的。
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We have different hormones, we have different sexual organs,
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我們有不同的荷爾蒙, 和不同的性器官,
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we have different biological abilities.
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在生理能力上也各有差別。
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Women can have babies, men can't.
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女人可以生孩子,男人不行。
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At least not yet.
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至少現在不行。
06:35
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
06:37
Men have testosterone and are in general physically stronger than women.
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男人有睾丸酮, 通常身體比女人強壯。
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There's slightly more women than men in the world,
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世界上女人的數量 比男人稍微多一些,
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about 52 percent of the world's population is female.
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全球的女性大概占了 52%,
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But most of the positions of power and prestige are occupied by men.
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但有權力與聲望的 絕大部分都是男性。
06:52
The late Kenyan Nobel Peace laureate,
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最近獲得諾貝爾和平獎的肯亞籍得主;
06:55
Wangari Maathai,
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旺加里.馬塔伊
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put it simply and well when she said:
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她闡述的非常簡明:
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"The higher you go, the fewer women there are."
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「爬得越高,女性就越少。」
07:03
In the recent US elections we kept hearing of the Lilly Ledbetter law,
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我們在最近的美國大選中不時聽到 「莉莉—萊柏特合理工資法」,
07:08
and if we go beyond the nicely alliterative name of that law,
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如果深入去了解, 會發現它的命名原意,
07:11
it was really about a man and a woman
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分別指的是「一個男人和一個女人」;
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doing the same job, being equally qualified,
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兩者的工作內容和資格都一樣,
07:16
and the man being paid more because he's a man.
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但是男的卻獲得較多的薪資, 原因只是因為他是「男性」。
07:19
So in the literal way, men rule the world,
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所以實務上來看掌控世界的是男性,
07:23
and this made sense a thousand years ago
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而且數千年以來都是理所當然,
07:26
because human beings lived then in a world
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因為人類當初的生存環境,
07:29
in which physical strength was the most important attribute for survival.
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體格強壯是當時首要的生存條件,
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The physically stronger person was more likely to lead,
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所以身體強壯的人才可能做領袖,
而男性身體普遍較為強壯。
07:39
and men, in general, are physically stronger.
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07:41
Of course there are many exceptions.
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當然也有很多例外。
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
07:45
But today we live in a vastly different world.
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但是今天我們生活在大不同的世界。
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The person more likely to lead is not the physically stronger person;
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體格強壯已不再是當領袖的條件,
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it is the more creative person, the more intelligent person,
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而是富有創造力和智慧,
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the more innovative person,
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能夠創新的人,
07:59
and there are no hormones for those attributes.
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這些特質並非由荷爾蒙來決定。
08:02
A man is as likely as a woman to be intelligent,
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在智力上男性與女性都一樣,
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to be creative, to be innovative.
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在創造和革新上亦是如此。
08:07
We have evolved;
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我們已經進化,
08:08
but it seems to me that our ideas of gender had not evolved.
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但是性別觀念依舊是停滯不進。
08:13
Some weeks ago, I walked into a lobby of one of the best Nigerian hotels.
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之前,我走進奈及利亞一家酒店大廳,
08:18
I thought about naming the hotel, but I thought I probably shouldn't.
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想一下要不要說出它的店名,算了。
08:21
And a guard at the entrance stopped me and asked me annoying questions,
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門口的警衛攔住我 並問了些惱人的事,
08:25
because their automatic assumption is
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因為他們很自然的認為,
08:27
that a Nigerian female walking into a hotel alone is a sex worker.
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一個獨自進入酒店的奈及利亞女人 必定是個妓女。
08:32
And by the way,
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順便問一下,
08:34
why do these hotels focus on the ostensible supply
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為什麼這些酒店 只在乎提供沒用的用品,
08:37
rather than the demand for sex workers?
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何不乾脆直接提供性的服務呢?
08:41
In Lagos I cannot go alone into many "reputable" bars and clubs.
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拉哥斯很多富有聲譽的酒吧和俱樂部 我是無法單獨進入的。
08:46
They just don't let you in if you're a woman alone,
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他們就是不讓女性單獨進去,
08:49
you have to be accompanied by a man.
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你必須有男人陪伴才能進去。
08:51
Each time I walk into a Nigerian restaurant with a man,
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每次我帶男性 進入奈及利亞的餐廳,
08:54
the waiter greets the man and ignores me.
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服務員只招呼男人, 卻忘了我的存在。
08:58
The waiters are products --
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服務員是商品。
08:59
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
09:00
At this some women felt like, "Yes! I thought that!"
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女人對這點的反應好像是, 「是啊!我想也是!」
09:03
The waiters are products of a society
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這些服務員是社會的產物,
09:05
that has taught them that men are more important than women.
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社會教育他們男人比女人重要。
09:10
And I know that waiters don't intend any harm.
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我也知道服務員無意冒犯我。
09:12
But it's one thing to know intellectually and quite another to feel it emotionally.
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但是理性上的理解是一回事, 情緒上的感覺卻是另一回事。
09:17
Each time they ignore me, I feel invisible.
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每次我被忽視, 就讓我感到不存在一樣。
09:19
I feel upset.
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我感到很沮喪。
09:21
I want to tell them that I am just as human as the man,
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我想告訴他們 我跟男人一樣也是人,
09:24
that I'm just as worthy of acknowledgment.
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我也值得被人感謝。
09:28
These are little things,
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這些都是小事,
09:29
but sometimes it's the little things that sting the most.
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但有時小事卻最令人傷痛。
09:33
And not long ago, I wrote an article
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不久之前我寫了篇文章,
09:34
about what it means to be young and female in Lagos,
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關於身為拉哥斯 年輕女性所代表的意義,
09:38
and the printers told me,
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然後印刷商告訴說:
09:40
"It was so angry."
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「那本書充滿怒氣哦。」
09:42
Of course it was angry!
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當然真的是非常令人生氣的!
09:44
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
09:48
I am angry.
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我很生氣。
09:50
Gender as it functions today is a grave injustice.
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今日性別差異仍是非常不公平。
09:53
We should all be angry.
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我們都應該感到憤怒。
09:55
Anger has a long history of bringing about positive change;
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歷史上憤怒曾帶來很多正面的改變。
09:59
but, in addition to being angry, I'm also hopeful.
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但是除了憤怒之外,我也懷著希望。
10:02
Because I believe deeply in the ability of human beings
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因為我深信人類的能力
10:05
to make and remake themselves for the better.
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可以為了更好的未來 而去創造和改造。
10:08
Gender matters everywhere in the world,
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全世界的性別問題都至關重要,
10:10
but I want to focus on Nigeria
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但是我想聚焦於奈及利亞,
10:13
and on Africa in general,
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以及整個非洲,
10:14
because it is where I know, and because it is where my heart is.
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因為這是我的家鄉, 也是我心之所向。
10:18
And I would like today to ask
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今天我想要求大家
10:20
that we begin to dream about and plan for a different world,
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開始夢想和籌畫一個不一樣的世界,
10:24
a fairer world,
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一個更公平的世界,
10:28
a world of happier men and happier women who are truer to themselves.
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一個男人和女人都比現在更開心 和更真實的世界。
10:32
And this is how to start:
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讓我們這樣開始做:
10:33
we must raise our daughters differently.
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我們要用不同的方式教育女兒,
10:36
We must also raise our sons differently.
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我們也要用不同的方式教育兒子。
10:39
We do a great disservice to boys on how we raise them;
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我們養育男孩的方式 大大地幫了他們倒忙,
10:43
we stifle the humanity of boys.
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抹煞了男孩的人性。
10:46
We define masculinity in a very narrow way,
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把「大丈夫氣概」定義得很狹隘,
10:48
masculinity becomes this hard, small cage
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把大丈夫氣概視為 一個堅固狹小的牢籠,
10:52
and we put boys inside the cage.
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再把男孩關進去。
10:54
We teach boys to be afraid of fear.
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我們教男孩害怕恐懼。
10:57
We teach boys to be afraid of weakness, of vulnerability.
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我們教男孩害怕短處和脆弱。
11:02
We teach them to mask their true selves,
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讓男孩隱藏自己真實的一面,
11:04
because they have to be, in Nigerian speak, "hard man!"
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因為他們必須做一個 奈及利亞人所說的「硬漢」。
11:10
In secondary school, a boy and a girl, both of them teenagers,
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同年紀的中學男孩和女孩,
兩者都是十來歲的年輕人,
11:14
both of them with the same amount of pocket money, would go out
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兩者都有同樣多的零用錢在口袋裡,
11:17
and then the boy would be expected always to pay,
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一起出去玩的時候, 總是讓男生付錢,
11:20
to prove his masculinity.
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來讓他展現男子氣概。
11:23
And yet we wonder why boys are more likely to steal money from their parents.
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而我們還在困惑 為何男生較會從家裡偷錢。
11:29
What if both boys and girls were raised
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假如我們在養育男生和女生的時候
11:32
not to link masculinity with money?
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不把金錢和男子氣概 聯想在一起,會怎樣?
11:35
What if the attitude was not "the boy has to pay"
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如果我們把「男生付錢」的態度改成
11:38
but rather "whoever has more should pay?"
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「誰錢多誰付錢」那麼又會怎樣?
11:42
Now, of course because of that historical advantage,
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當然,由於歷史的優勢,
11:44
it is mostly men who will have more today,
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大多情況下男人會比較富有一些,
11:47
but if we start raising children differently,
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但是如果我們開始改變 教育孩子的方式,
11:49
then in fifty years, in a hundred years,
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五十年後,一百年後,
11:52
boys will no longer have the pressure of having to prove this masculinity.
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屆時男人將不再被迫 去證明自己的男子氣概。
11:57
But by far the worst thing we do to males,
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但到目前為止, 教導他們覺得自己必須要做硬漢,
12:00
by making them feel that they have to be hard,
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這件事最糟的結果是:
12:02
is that we leave them with very fragile egos.
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我們留給他們一個非常脆弱的自我。
12:06
The more "hard man" the man feels compelled to be,
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男人被迫成為硬漢的感覺越強烈,
12:11
the weaker his ego is.
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他的自我就越脆弱。
12:14
And then we do a much greater disservice to girls
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而我們又再用 更不親和的方式教育女孩,
12:17
because we raise them to cater to the fragile egos of men.
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因為我們教育她們 去迎合男人脆弱的自我,
12:22
We teach girls to shrink themselves, to make themselves smaller,
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我們教育女孩子收斂自己,
讓自己變得更卑微。
12:25
we say to girls,
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對女生說:
12:27
"You can have ambition, but not too much."
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「妳可以有野心,但是不要過多。」
12:29
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
12:31
"You should aim to be successful, but not too successful,
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「你要朝著成功努力,但不需要太成功,
12:33
otherwise you would threaten the man."
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否則妳會威脅到男人。」
12:36
If you are the breadwinner in your relationship with a man,
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如果妳是負責養家糊口的人,
12:39
you have to pretend that you're not,
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妳就要假裝沒老公賺得多,
12:41
especially in public,
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尤其是公開場合,
12:43
otherwise you will emasculate him.
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不然會讓妳的男人喪失男子氣概。
12:46
But what if we question the premise itself?
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但是如果我們質疑這個前提呢?
12:48
Why should a woman's success be a threat to a man?
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為什麼一個女人事業有成 就會威脅到男人了呢?
12:53
What if we decide to simply dispose of that word,
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為什麼我們不直接拋棄那個字,
12:56
and I don't think there's an English word I dislike more than "emasculation."
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那個我最不喜歡的英文字:「閹割」
13:02
A Nigerian acquaintance once asked me
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有位奈及利亞的舊識問我
13:04
if I was worried that men would be intimidated by me.
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是否擔心自己會嚇到男人?
13:08
I was not worried at all.
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我根本不會擔心。
13:10
In fact, it had not occurred to me to be worried
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事實上我從未擔心過,
13:12
because a man who would be intimidated by me
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因為會被我嚇到的男人,
13:14
is exactly the kind of man I would have no interest in.
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絕對不是我喜歡的菜。
13:17
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
13:18
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
13:25
But still I was really struck by this.
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但是我還是會對這件事受到打擊。
13:29
Because I'm female, I'm expected to aspire to marriage;
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因為我是女性, 我被要求以婚姻為重。
13:33
I'm expected to make my life choices
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我被期待在做出人生抉擇的時候,
13:35
always keeping in mind that marriage is the most important.
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總是要以婚姻為優先的考慮。
13:39
A marriage can be a good thing;
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婚姻可以是好事;
13:41
it can be a source of joy and love and mutual support.
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婚姻是愛與快樂、互相支援的來源。
13:46
But why do we teach girls to aspire to marriage
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但是為何我們只教育女兒追求婚姻,
13:48
and we don't teach boys the same?
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而沒教育男孩同樣的婚姻觀?
13:52
I know a woman who decided to sell her house
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我認識一個賣掉自己房子的女人,
13:54
because she didn't want to intimidate a man who might marry her.
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因為她不希望嚇到打算娶她的男人。
13:59
I know an unmarried woman in Nigeria who, when she goes to conferences,
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我認識一位單身的奈及利亞的女性,
每次開會時, 手上都會戴枚結婚戒指,
14:04
wears a wedding ring
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14:05
because according to her,
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因為她說:
14:06
she wants the other participants in the conference to "give her respect."
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她希望其他與會的人「尊重她」。
14:11
I know young women who are under so much pressure
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我知道年輕女人的壓力都很大,
14:14
from family, from friends, even from work to get married,
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親朋好友甚至同儕都逼著她結婚,
14:18
and they're pushed to make terrible choices.
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結果她們被迫做出糟糕的選擇。
14:21
A woman at a certain age who is unmarried,
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一個女人到了一定年齡還沒嫁出去,
14:23
our society teaches her to see it as a deep, personal failure.
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輿論會讓她覺得 這是極大的個人失敗。
14:28
And a man at a certain age who is unmarried,
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然而一個男人到了 一定年齡還沒有結婚,
14:31
we just think he hasn't come around to making his pick.
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大家只會說他還沒遇到合適的對象。
14:34
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
14:36
It's easy for us to say,
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我們都可以很輕鬆地說:
14:37
"Oh, but women can just say no to all of this."
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「哦,但女人也可以拒絕這些啊。」
14:40
But the reality is more difficult and more complex.
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但是現實比這更複雜、更困難。
14:43
We're all social beings.
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我們都是社會的一份子。
14:44
We internalize ideas from our socialization.
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我們把社會的看法加以內化。
14:47
Even the language we use
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甚至我們使用的語言,
14:49
in talking about marriage and relationships illustrates this.
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當討論婚姻時,描述婚姻關係時,
14:52
The language of marriage is often the language of ownership
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談的都是「所有權」的話語,
14:55
rather than the language of partnership.
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而非「夥伴關係」的語言。
14:58
We use the word "respect"
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我們使用「尊重」這個字,
15:01
to mean something a woman shows a man
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來形容女人對男人的態度
15:04
but often not something a man shows a woman.
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而常常不是男人對女人的態度。
15:07
Both men and women in Nigeria will say --
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奈及利亞的男女都會說
15:10
this is an expression I'm very amused by --
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──這個說法讓我啼笑皆非──
15:12
"I did it for peace in my marriage."
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「我這樣做是為了婚姻的和諧。」
15:16
Now, when men say it,
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但輪到男人這麼說的時候,
15:17
it is usually about something that they should not be doing anyway.
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通常是指的是「不該」做的事。
15:21
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
15:22
Sometimes they say it to their friends,
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有時男人會對朋友那樣說,
15:25
it's something to say to their friends in a kind of fondly exasperated way,
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那些與朋友交談時的話題, 用一種既憐愛又惱怒的口氣,
15:29
you know, something that ultimately proves how masculine they are,
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就是那種最能夠男子氣概的口吻,
15:32
how needed, how loved.
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多麼享受那種被人依賴與關愛的感覺。
15:34
"Oh, my wife said I can't go to the club every night,
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「呃,我妻子叫我不要每晚來俱樂部,
15:36
so for peace in my marriage, I do it only on weekends."
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所以為了這個家我只能週末才來。」
15:39
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
15:41
Now, when a woman says, "I did it for peace in my marriage,"
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是當女人說; 「我是為了這個家」的時候,
15:45
she's usually talking about giving up a job,
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通常她指的是放棄一份工作,
15:49
a dream,
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放棄夢想,
15:50
a career.
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放棄事業。
15:52
We teach females that in relationships,
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我們教育婦女為了婚姻,
15:55
compromise is what women do.
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妥協是女人的本分。
15:58
We raise girls to see each other as competitors --
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我們教導女兒們視彼此為競爭者
16:01
not for jobs or for accomplishments, which I think can be a good thing,
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──不是為了工作或成就的競爭,
我視這種競爭為好事──
16:04
but for attention of men.
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而是為了吸引男人。
16:07
We teach girls that they cannot be sexual beings
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我們告訴女孩子不能打扮得太火辣,
16:10
in the way that boys are.
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不可像男人那樣。
16:12
If we have sons, we don't mind knowing about our sons' girlfriends.
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如果是兒子的女朋友, 我們就不會介意。
16:16
But our daughters' boyfriends? God forbid.
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但如果是女兒的男朋友? 那可就上帝也不容了。
16:18
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
16:20
But of course when the time is right,
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當然,到了適合的時間,
16:22
we expect those girls to bring back the perfect man to be their husbands.
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我們期盼女兒帶回來的 是一個可做她的丈夫的完美男人。
16:26
We police girls, we praise girls for virginity,
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我們約束女兒保持童貞,
16:29
but we don't praise boys for virginity,
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但我們不要求男孩保持童貞。
16:31
and it's always made me wonder how exactly this is supposed to work out because ...
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讓我好奇的是 這種事要怎樣才行得通呢?因為──
16:35
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
16:37
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
16:45
I mean, the loss of virginity is usually a process that involves ...
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我的意思是 失去童貞的過程通常需要──
16:50
Recently a young woman was gang raped in a university in Nigeria,
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最近一名奈及利亞大學的女生被輪姦,
16:54
I think some of us know about that.
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我想有些人可能聽說了。
16:56
And the response of many young Nigerians, both male and female,
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然後很多奈及利亞的男女反應是,
16:59
was something along the lines of this:
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類似這樣:
17:02
"Yes, rape is wrong.
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「沒錯,強姦是不對的。
17:04
But what is a girl doing in a room with four boys?"
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但是為什麼一個女孩 會和四個男生同處一室呢?」
17:08
Now, if we can forget the horrible inhumanity of that response,
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暫且不談那種可怕又殘酷的反應,
17:13
these Nigerians have been raised to think of women as inherently guilty,
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奈及利亞人已被教育成 女人與生有罪,
17:19
and they have been raised to expect so little of men
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他們的也被養育成 不要對男性期望太高,
17:22
that the idea of men as savage beings without any control
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男性做出失控不理性的獸行,
17:26
is somehow acceptable.
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總是可以理解的。
17:28
We teach girls shame.
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我們教育女性要懂得廉恥,
17:30
"Close your legs." "Cover yourself."
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「把腿夾緊」, 「別穿得那麼暴露」。
17:33
We make them feel as though by being born female
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我們把女孩弄得好像身為女人,
17:35
they're already guilty of something.
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天生就是有罪的。
17:37
And so, girls grow up to be women
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因此,女孩長大成女人後,
17:40
who cannot see they have desire.
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我們見不得她們有慾望。
17:42
They grow up to be women who silence themselves.
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她們最好閉上嘴巴。
17:46
They grow up to be women who cannot say what they truly think,
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她們長大後不能說出自己內心的話,
17:50
and they grow up --
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她們長大後──
17:51
and this is the worst thing we did to girls --
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這是我們對女孩 做的最糟糕的事情──
17:53
they grow up to be women who have turned pretense into an art form.
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她們長大後把這種虛偽當成是藝術。
17:58
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
18:04
I know a woman who hates domestic work,
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我認識一個很討厭做家事的女人,
18:07
she just hates it,
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她就是不喜歡做家事,
18:09
but she pretends that she likes it,
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但是她假裝成很喜歡,
18:12
because she's been taught that to be "good wife material"
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因為她從小被教育要當個「好老婆」,
18:16
she has to be -- to use that Nigerian word --
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用奈及利亞的話來說,
18:18
very "homely."
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她不得不表現得非常「居家」。
18:21
And then she got married,
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等到她結了婚,
18:22
and after a while her husband's family began to complain that she had changed.
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沒多久她的婆家開始抱怨她人變了。
18:26
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
18:28
Actually, she had not changed,
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實際上她沒變,
18:29
she just got tired of pretending.
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她只是演得累了。
18:32
The problem with gender,
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關於「性別」的問題,
18:35
is that it prescribes how we should be
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出在我們對它設下了 「應該是甚麼」的規定,
18:38
rather than recognizing how we are.
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而不是去理解我們「如何做」。
18:41
Now imagine how much happier we would be,
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想像如果能做真正的自己
18:43
how much freer to be our true individual selves,
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會有多快樂、多自由,
18:47
if we didn't have the weight of gender expectations.
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免除掉性別帶來的包袱。
18:51
Boys and girls are undeniably different biologically,
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男性和女性生理上 毫無疑問是有差異的,
18:55
but socialization exaggerates the differences
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但是社會誇大了這種差異性,
18:58
and then it becomes a self-fulfilling process.
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使它轉變成一種自我實現的過程。
19:01
Now, take cooking for example.
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我們拿烹飪為例;
19:04
Today women in general are more likely to do the housework than men,
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現代的女人比男人 要負擔更多的家務,
19:07
the cooking and cleaning.
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例如烹飪和打掃。
19:08
But why is that?
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但是為什麼是那樣呢?
19:10
Is it because women are born with a cooking gene?
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難不成女人生來就有烹飪的基因嗎?
19:13
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
19:14
Or because over years they have been socialized to see cooking as their role?
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還是說經過多年社會化以後,
她們已經視烹飪為女性的天職?
19:19
Actually, I was going to say that maybe women are born with a cooking gene,
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我一直以為女人的確具有烹飪的基因,
19:22
until I remember that the majority of the famous cooks in the world,
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直到我憶起世上知名的大廚,
19:26
whom we give the fancy title of "chefs,"
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那些我們給他戴上「大廚」帽子的人,
19:28
are men.
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卻多數是「男性」。
19:30
I used to look up to my grandmother
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我過去非常敬仰我外婆,
19:32
who was a brilliant, brilliant woman,
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她是位非常睿智的女人,
19:34
and wonder how she would have been
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我很好奇在她成長過程中,
19:36
if she had the same opportunities as men when she was growing up.
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如果像男性有同樣的機會,她會怎麼樣。
19:40
Now today, there are many more opportunities for women
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今天的女人有了很多機會,
19:43
than there were during my grandmother's time
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比我外婆那一代還要多,
19:45
because of changes in policy, changes in law,
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歸功於政策和法律的改變,
19:48
all of which are very important.
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所有改變都很重要。
19:49
But what matters even more is our attitude, our mindset,
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但是更重要的是我們的態度和思維,
19:54
what we believe and what we value about gender.
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對於性別的信念和價值觀。
19:57
What if in raising children
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如果我們撫養孩子時, 多關注能力而不是性別?
20:00
we focus on ability instead of gender?
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20:03
What if in raising children we focus on interest instead of gender?
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如果我們關注於興趣而不是性別呢?
20:08
I know a family who have a son and a daughter,
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我認識的某一家人,有一男一女,
20:11
both of whom are brilliant at school,
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兒女在學校表現都很好,
20:12
who are wonderful, lovely children.
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都是很討人喜歡的孩子。
20:14
When the boy is hungry, the parents say to the girl,
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當兒子餓了的時候, 父母會對女兒說:
20:17
"Go and cook Indomie noodles for your brother."
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「去給你哥哥下碗印尼泡麵吃。」
20:19
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
20:20
Now, the daughter doesn't particularly like to cook Indomie noodles,
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這個女兒並不特別喜歡印尼泡麵了,
20:24
but she's a girl, and so she has to.
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但是因為她是女孩,她不得不做。
20:27
Now, what if the parents,
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現在,如果這對父母,
20:29
from the beginning,
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從一開始,
20:30
taught both the boy and the girl to cook Indomie?
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教導兒子和女兒 都去學煮印尼式泡麵呢?
20:35
Cooking, by the way, is a very useful skill for boys to have.
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順便說一下; 煮飯對男生也是非常重要的技能。
20:38
I've never thought it made sense to leave such a crucial thing,
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我從來不覺得這樣有道理:
把餵飽一個人這樣重要的能力
20:43
the ability to nourish oneself --
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20:45
(Laughter)
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交由他人代勞,
20:46
in the hands of others.
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20:48
(Applause)
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(笑聲)(掌聲)
20:53
I know a woman who has the same degree and the same job as her husband.
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我認識一個女人, 學歷和工作跟她的丈夫都一樣,
20:57
When they get back from work, she does most of the housework,
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下班回家後,大部分家務都由她來做,
21:00
which I think is true for many marriages.
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我相信大部分婚姻都是如此。
21:02
But what struck me about them
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但是真正讓我震驚的是;
21:04
was that whenever her husband changed the baby's diaper,
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每當她丈夫替孩子換尿片的時候,
21:07
she said "thank you" to him.
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她都會跟老公說「謝謝你。」
21:10
Now, what if she saw this as perfectly normal and natural
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現在,如果她把這件事視為理所當然呢?
21:15
that he should, in fact, care for his child?
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老公不是都應該照顧自己的孩子嗎?
21:18
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
21:21
I'm trying to unlearn many of the lessons of gender
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我一直想忘記有關性別差異的教導,
那些成長過程中 已然內化而帶來的教訓。
21:25
that I internalized when I was growing up.
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21:27
But I sometimes still feel very vulnerable in the face of gender expectations.
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但當面對性別期望時, 有時我仍會感到脆弱。
21:32
The first time I taught a writing class in graduate school,
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當我第一次在研究所 指導寫作的時候,
21:36
I was worried.
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我很擔心。
21:37
I wasn't worried about the material I would teach
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但不是擔心教材的問題,
21:39
because I was well-prepared,
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因為我的教材準備得很充分,
21:41
and I was going to teach what I enjoy teaching.
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而且我非常喜歡教書的工作。
21:43
Instead, I was worried about what to wear.
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讓我擔心的反而是 穿甚麼衣服的問題。
21:46
I wanted to be taken seriously.
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我很希望被嚴肅地看待。
21:49
I knew that because I was female
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因為我知道自己是女性,
21:50
I will automatically have to prove my worth.
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我必須主動的證明自己的價值。
21:55
And I was worried that if I looked too feminine,
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我擔心如果我穿得太女性化,
21:57
I would not be taken seriously.
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我會被人輕視。
21:59
I really wanted to wear my shiny lip gloss and my girly skirt,
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我真的很想擦上閃亮的唇膏, 和穿那些很有女人味的裙子,
22:03
but I decided not to.
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但是我決定算了。
22:05
Instead, I wore a very serious,
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相反的我穿了一件非常正式的,
22:07
very manly and very ugly suit.
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很男性化、很醜陋的套裝。
22:10
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
22:11
Because the sad truth is that when it comes to appearance
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因為可悲的是,當牽涉到衣著時,
22:14
we start off with men as the standard, as the norm.
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我們必須以男人的標準為規範。
22:17
If a man is getting ready for a business meeting,
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如果是男人在準備參加業務會議,
22:20
he doesn't worry about looking too masculine
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他不需要擔心是否穿得太男性化
22:22
and therefore not being taken for granted.
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以致被人佔便宜。
22:24
If a woman has to get ready for business meeting,
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但是當女人準備參加業務會議時,
22:27
she has to worry about looking too feminine
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她必須注意不要穿得太女性化,
22:30
and what it says and whether or not she will be taken seriously.
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免得別人不嚴肅地看待她。
22:35
I wish I had not worn that ugly suit that day.
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我真希望那天沒穿那件醜陋的套裝。
22:39
I've actually banished it from my closet, by the way.
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順便提一下,我已經 從衣櫃取出那套裝扔了。
22:42
Had I then the confidence that I have now to be myself,
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假如當時我有現在的自信 做真正的自己,
22:47
my students would have benefited even more from my teaching,
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我的學生可以學得更多,
22:50
because I would have been more comfortable
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因為我會更自在、
22:52
and more fully and more truly myself.
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更完整、更真實地呈現自我。
22:55
I have chosen to no longer be apologetic for my femaleness
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我已決定不再為我的女性化
和女權主張而道歉。
22:59
and for my femininity.
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23:01
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
23:07
And I want to be respected in all of my femaleness
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而且我希望我的女性特點得到尊重,
23:10
because I deserve to be.
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因為我值得被尊重。
23:13
Gender is not an easy conversation to have.
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性別差異不是很好談的話題,
23:16
For both men and women,
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無論男人或是女人,
23:18
to bring up gender is sometimes to encounter almost immediate resistance.
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挑起性別話題 有時會遭到立即的反彈。
23:22
I can imagine some people here are actually thinking,
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我能想像有些人現在實際的想法
23:25
"Women too do sef."
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是「女人是自作自受。」
23:29
Some of the men here might be thinking,
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在座的某些男性可能會想:
23:31
"OK, all of this is interesting,
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「好吧,聽起來很有道理,
23:33
but I don't think like that."
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但是我不這麼想。」
23:35
And that is part of the problem.
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而這就是部分問題之所在。
23:38
That many men do not actively think about gender
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很多男人並不會主動思考性別的問題
23:41
or notice gender
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或注意性別本身,
23:42
is part of the problem of gender.
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那就是性別問題的一部分。
23:44
That many men, say, like my friend Louis,
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很多男人,就像我的朋友路易士,
23:47
that everything is fine now.
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認為現在一切都不錯啊。
23:49
And that many men do nothing to change it.
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很多男人不想改變現狀。
23:52
If you are a man and you walk into a restaurant with a woman
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如果你是一個帶著 女人進入餐廳的男人,
23:55
and the waiter greets only you,
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如果服務員只跟你接待你,
23:58
does it occur to you to ask the waiter,
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你有沒有問過服務員:
24:00
"Why haven't you greeted her?"
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「為什麼你沒招待她?」
24:05
Because gender can be --
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因為性別可以──
24:06
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
24:16
Actually, we may repose part of a longer version of this talk.
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也許我們可以休息一下, 這場演講真的很長。
24:21
So, because gender can be a very uncomfortable conversation to have,
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因為談論性別問題 可能令人非常不舒服,
24:24
there are very easy ways to close it, to close the conversation.
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有一個簡單方法能化解它。
24:27
So some people will bring up evolutionary biology and apes,
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有些人可能會提出進化論和猩猩,
24:32
how, you know, female apes bow down to male apes
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你知道雌性猩猩 會向雄性猩猩彎腰低頭,
24:35
and that sort of thing.
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諸如此類。
24:37
But the point is we're not apes.
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但重點是:我們不是猩猩。
24:39
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
24:41
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
24:45
Apes also live on trees and have earthworms for breakfast,
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猩猩生活在樹上,吃蚯蚓當早飯,
24:50
and we don't.
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我們不然。
24:53
Some people will say, "Well, poor men also have a hard time."
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有人會反駁說: 「窮男人也過得很辛苦。」
24:57
And this is true.
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這的確是。
24:59
But that is not what this --
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但那與這毫不相干──
25:01
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
25:02
But this is not what this conversation is about.
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但那不是我們在此討論的主題。
25:06
Gender and class are different forms of oppression.
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性別和社會階級 都是被壓抑的不同形式。
25:10
I actually learned quite a bit about systems of oppression
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實際上我學到許多 有關系統性壓抑的事,
25:13
and how they can be blind to one another
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還有他們彼此如何無視對方的存在,
25:16
by talking to black men.
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這是經由與黑人男士們 對談而學來的。
25:19
I was once talking to a black man about gender
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我曾跟一位黑人男性 談論性別的問題,
25:22
and he said to me,
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他問我:
25:23
"Why do you have to say 'my experience as a woman'?
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「妳為什麼一定要說『身為女人的經歷』?
25:27
Why can't it be
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為什麼不說妳『身為人類的經驗』?」
25:28
'your experience as a human being'?"
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25:31
Now, this was the same man
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現在說這話的人
25:32
who would often talk about his experience as a black man.
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常提到自己身為黑人男人的事。
25:39
Gender matters.
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性別有差異的!
25:40
Men and women experience the world differently.
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男人與女人對世界的體認是不同的。
25:42
Gender colors the way we experience the world.
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性別讓我們使用有色眼光去看世界。
25:45
But we can change that.
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但是我們可以改變。
25:48
Some people will say,
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有人會說:
25:50
"Oh, but women have the real power,
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「但是女人有真正的力量,
25:52
bottom power."
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屁股的力量。」
25:54
And for non-Nigerians, bottom power is an expression
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我來解釋一下, 以奈及利亞的語言來表達,
25:57
which I suppose means something like a woman
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「屁股力量」有點像 女人利用她的魅力
25:59
who uses her sexuality to get favors from men.
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吸引並從男人身上牟取利益的意思。
26:03
But bottom power is not power at all.
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但是屁股力量根本不是什麼力量。
26:08
Bottom power means that a woman
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屁股力量只是意味著一個女人
26:11
simply has a good root to tap into, from time to time --
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有時候有借助別人力量的基礎而已。
26:13
somebody else's power.
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26:16
And then, of course, we have to wonder
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然後,我們一定會好奇,
26:18
what happens when that somebody else is in a bad mood,
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如果那個人情緒很差、
26:21
or sick
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生病,或是無能,會怎樣?
26:22
or impotent.
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26:24
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
26:27
Some people will say that a woman being subordinate to a man is our culture.
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有人說女人屈服於男人 是我們的文化。
26:34
But culture is constantly changing.
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但是文化是不斷地改變的。
26:36
I have beautiful twin nieces who are fifteen and live in Lagos.
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我有兩個芳齡十五,美麗的 雙胞胎侄女住在拉哥斯。
26:41
If they had been born a hundred years ago
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如果她倆出生在一百年之前,
26:43
they would have been taken away and killed.
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她們會被帶走並被殺掉。
26:45
Because it was our culture, it was our culture to kill twins.
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因為過去那是我們的文化, 殺死雙胞胎是我們過去的文化。
26:50
So what is the point of culture?
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那麼文化的重點在哪裡呢?
26:53
I mean there's the decorative,
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文化有很多的裝飾性,
26:54
the dancing ...
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像是各種的舞蹈等等。
26:56
but also, culture really is about preservation and continuity of a people.
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但此同時,
文化真正的意義是保護人和傳承。
27:01
In my family,
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我是家中最有興趣聽人述說
27:02
I am the child who is most interested in the story of who we are,
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關於我們是誰、關於傳統,
27:05
in our traditions,
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27:06
in the knowledge about ancestral lands.
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還有祖傳有關這片土地的知識。
27:09
My brothers are not as interested as I am.
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我的兄弟不像我那麼有興趣。
27:11
But I cannot participate,
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可是我不能參與,
27:14
I cannot go to umunna meetings,
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我不能參加族人會議,
27:16
I cannot have a say.
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我也無權發言。
27:17
Because I'm female.
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因為我是女性。
27:19
Culture does not make people,
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文化不會製造出人,
27:22
people make culture.
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人類創造文化。
27:24
So if it is in fact true --
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所以實際上真的是這樣,
27:26
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
27:30
So if it is in fact true
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所以如果實際上真的是
27:31
that the full humanity of women is not our culture,
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女性的完整人權不屬於我們的文化,
27:34
then we must make it our culture.
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那我們就必須把它變成我們的文化。
27:37
I think very often of my dear friend, Okoloma Maduewesi.
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我常常想起我的朋友 奧克拉荷馬.瑪督韋希。
27:43
May he and all the others who passed away in that Sosoliso crash
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祝福他和其他所有在 索索利索空難中逝去的人,
27:47
continue to rest in peace.
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繼續得到安息。
27:50
He will always be remembered by those of us who loved him.
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他永遠會被愛他的人懷念著。
27:54
And he was right that day many years ago when he called me a feminist.
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他在幾年前的那一天是對的,
當時他第一次說我是女權主義者。
27:59
I am a feminist.
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我是一個女權主義者。
28:01
And when I looked up the word in the dictionary that day,
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那天我打開字典查閱這個字的時候,
28:03
this is what it said:
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字典裡這麼寫道:
28:05
"Feminist: a person who believes in the social, political
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「女權主義者:
一個相信在社會、政治
28:08
and economic equality of the sexes."
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和經濟上,性別生而平等的人。」
28:12
My great grandmother, from the stories I've heard,
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在我聽到的故事裡,我的曾祖母
28:15
was a feminist.
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是位女權主義者。
28:16
She ran away from the house of the man she did not want to marry
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她逃離不想嫁的那個男人的家,
28:20
and ended up marrying the man of her choice.
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最終與自己選擇的男人結婚。
28:22
She refused, she protested, she spoke up
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她拒絕、她抗議、她挺身而出,
28:25
whenever she felt she was being deprived of access, of land, that sort of thing.
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每當她的土地權利被剝奪
或發生類似情形時,她都是如此。
28:31
My great grandmother did not know that word "feminist,"
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我的曾祖母不曉得 「女權主義者」這個名詞,
28:34
but it doesn't mean that she wasn't one.
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但是那不代表她不是女權主義者。
28:37
More of us should reclaim that word.
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更多人應該再度主張這個詞彙。
28:41
My own definition of feminist is:
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我個人對女權主義的定義是:
28:45
"A feminist is a man or a woman
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「女權主義者是個男人或女人,
28:47
who says --
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主張
28:49
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
28:52
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
28:58
A feminist is a man or a woman who says,
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「女權主義者是那些勇於說出:
29:01
"Yes, there's a problem with gender as it is today,
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『是的,當今社會性別問題依然存在,
29:05
and we must fix it.
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而且我們必須糾正它,
29:06
We must do better."
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我們必須做得更好』的男人或女人」。
29:09
The best feminist I know
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我所認識最優秀的女權主義者
29:11
is my brother Kene.
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是我的哥哥肯尼。
29:14
He's also a kind, good-looking, lovely man,
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他也是個和善、瀟灑、可愛的男人,
29:18
and he's very masculine.
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而且他非常有男子氣概。
29:21
Thank you.
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謝謝。
29:22
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
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