Jacqueline Novogratz: Investing in Africa's own solutions

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譯者: Wang-Ju Tsai 審譯者: Adrienne Lin
00:25
I want to start with a story, a la Seth Godin,
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我從一個有Godin (註:行銷學大師)味道的故事開始
00:28
from when I was 12 years old.
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在我十二歲的時候
00:30
My uncle Ed gave me a beautiful blue sweater --
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我的叔叔艾德給了我一件漂亮的藍色毛衣
00:33
at least I thought it was beautiful.
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至少我認爲挺漂亮的
00:35
And it had fuzzy zebras walking across the stomach,
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在腹部這裡有很炫的斑馬
00:38
and Mount Kilimanjaro and Mount Meru were kind of
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胸部則有吉利馬扎儸山和梅魯山為背景
00:41
right across the chest, that were also fuzzy.
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這也是很炫的。
00:43
And I wore it whenever I could,
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我到哪裏都穿著這件毛衣
00:44
thinking it was the most fabulous thing I owned.
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我覺得這是我得到最棒的東西
00:47
Until one day in ninth grade,
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直到我九年級的有一天
00:49
when I was standing with a number of the football players.
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我跟一些足球隊的人站在一起
00:52
And my body had clearly changed, and Matt,
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我當時已經發育,身體有了變化
00:56
who was undeniably my nemesis in high school,
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我高中的死對頭 Matt Mussolina
01:00
said in a booming voice that
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用很大的聲音說:
01:01
we no longer had to go far away to go on ski trips,
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以後我們不需要去山上滑雪了
01:05
but we could all ski on Mount Novogratz.
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就在你胸前的這座山滑就好了。
01:07
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
01:08
And I was so humiliated and mortified
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我真是羞愧得快死了
01:11
that I immediately ran home to my mother and chastised her
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我立刻跑回家並責怪我媽
01:15
for ever letting me wear the hideous sweater.
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她不該讓我穿這件衣服出去丟臉
01:16
We drove to the Goodwill and we threw the sweater away
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我們開車去把毛衣送到Goodwill的舊衣回收
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somewhat ceremoniously,
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象徵性地,
01:21
my idea being that I would never have to think about the sweater
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我想說我不會再看到這件毛衣
01:24
nor see it ever again.
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這件事就從此過去了。
01:25
Fast forward -- 11 years later, I'm a 25-year-old kid.
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十一年後,我25歲
01:29
I'm working in Kigali, Rwanda, jogging through the steep slopes,
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我在盧安達的奇佳利工作,有一天在慢跑
01:36
when I see, 10 feet in front of me, a little boy -- 11 years old --
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突然看到一個11歲的小男孩,在我10尺前
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running toward me, wearing my sweater.
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向我跑過來,竟穿著我那件毛衣
01:43
And I'm thinking, no, this is not possible.
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我想了想,不會吧,這不可能
01:45
But so, curious, I run up to the child -- of course
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但是,在好奇心的驅使下,我攔下他
01:49
scaring the living bejesus out of him --
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把他嚇歪了
01:51
grab him by the collar, turn it over, and there is my name
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我抓著他的衣領,翻過來一看,
01:54
written on the collar of this sweater.
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果然上面寫著我的名字。
01:56
I tell that story, because it has served and continues to serve
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我講這個故事,因爲這是個很好的例子
02:01
as a metaphor to me about the level of connectedness
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説明了在這個地球上
02:05
that we all have on this Earth.
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我們是如何的緊密地連在一起。
02:07
We so often don't realize what our action and our inaction
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我們通常沒有認知到,我們的一舉一動
02:11
does to people we think we will never see and never know.
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對不認識的人的影響。
02:15
I also tell it because it tells a larger contextual story
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放遠一點看,這個例子也説明了
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of what aid is and can be.
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援助計劃的内容和作用。
02:20
That this traveled into the Goodwill in Virginia,
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這件衣服被放到 Goodwill 的舊衣回收點
02:24
and moved its way into the larger industry,
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再匯集到舊衣回收業裏
02:27
which at that point was giving millions of tons of secondhand clothing to Africa and Asia.
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當時幾百萬噸的二手衣會送到亞洲、非洲。
02:31
Which was a very good thing, providing low cost clothing.
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提供便宜的衣服,這不是壞事。
02:35
And at the same time, certainly in Rwanda,
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但在同一時間,至少在盧安達
02:37
it destroyed the local retailing industry.
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這些衣服卻也摧毀了當地的成衣業。
02:39
Not to say that it shouldn't have,
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我不是說我們不該回收舊衣
02:41
but that we have to get better at answering the questions
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而是我們應該提供更全面性的解答
02:44
that need to be considered when we think about consequences
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該想清楚可能帶來的後果
02:47
and responses.
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和回應。
02:49
So, I'm going to stick in Rwanda, circa 1985, 1986,
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再回來談談盧安達,1985,1986年左右
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where I was doing two things.
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我在那裏做兩件事
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I had started a bakery with 20 unwed mothers.
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我和20個未婚媽媽開了一間麵包店
02:58
We were called the "Bad News Bears," and our notion was
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叫做“壞消息大熊”
03:00
we were going to corner the snack food business in Kigali,
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我們想要壟斷奇佳利的點心市場
03:03
which was not hard because there were no snacks before us.
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這並不難,因爲在那之前並沒有點心店。
03:07
And because we had a good business model, we actually did it,
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因爲我們成功的商業模式,我們也的確辦到了
03:10
and I watched these women transform on a micro-level.
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我也看到這些婦女們身上的轉變。
03:12
But at the same time, I started a micro-finance bank,
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同一時間我創辦了一間小額信貸銀行
03:15
and tomorrow Iqbal Quadir is going to talk about Grameen,
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明天Iqbal Quadir 會跟大家談到Garmeen
03:18
which is the grandfather of all micro-finance banks,
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這是所有小額信貸銀行的祖宗
03:21
which now is a worldwide movement -- you talk about a meme --
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現在已經是全球性的活動
03:24
but then it was quite new, especially in an economy
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但在當時還是很新的概念,
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that was moving from barter into trade.
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特別是在以物易物的經濟環境裏
03:30
We got a lot of things right.
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我們作對了很多事
03:32
We focused on a business model; we insisted on skin in the game.
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我們強調自我投資
03:35
The women made their own decisions at the end of the day
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這些婦女們可以自己做決定
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as to how they would use this access to credit
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自己決定如何使用這些貸款
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to build their little businesses, earn more income
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來建立自己的小事業,賺更多的錢
03:43
so they could take care of their families better.
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來好好照顧自己的家庭。
03:46
What we didn't understand, what was happening all around us,
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我們那時沒了解的是,在我們的周圍
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with the confluence of fear, ethnic strife
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充斥的恐懼、種族衝突
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and certainly an aid game, if you will, that was playing into
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還有這個兒戲一般的援助計劃
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this invisible but certainly palpable movement inside Rwanda,
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雖然看不到卻垂手可得
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that at that time, 30 percent of the budget was all foreign aid.
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當時盧安達的預算,30%是國際援助。
04:11
The genocide happened in 1994,
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這些婦女開始一起工作
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seven years after these women all worked together
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來實現夢想,七年以後
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to build this dream.
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1994年發生了種族大屠殺。
04:17
And the good news was that the institution,
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幸好的是,
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the banking institution, lasted.
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銀行在大屠殺其間沒被破壞。
04:21
In fact, it became the largest rehabilitation lender in the country.
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後來還變成了重建期最大的貸方。
04:25
The bakery was completely wiped out,
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麵包店已經被完全摧毀
04:27
but the lessons for me were that accountability counts --
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但我也學到了,重要的是:
04:32
got to build things with people on the ground,
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要在當地和人們一起建設
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using business models where, as Steven Levitt would say,
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如 Steven Levitt 說的,
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the incentives matter.
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使用適用于當地的商業模式。
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Understand, however complex we may be, incentives matter.
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要去了解,雖然不是那麽容易,當地的動機。
04:43
So when Chris raised to me how wonderful everything
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當 Chris 跟我提到說,現在世上發生的一些事
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that was happening in the world,
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是多麽的美好,
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that we were seeing a shift in zeitgeist,
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我們正在目睹時代的轉變
04:51
on the one hand I absolutely agree with him,
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一方面我很同意他的說法
04:53
and I was so thrilled to see what happened with the G8 --
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我很興奮地看到G8峰會裏
04:56
that the world, because of people like Tony Blair and Bono
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有了像布萊爾(Tony Blair)、波諾(Bono)、
05:00
and Bob Geldof -- the world is talking about global poverty;
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Bob Geldof 這樣的人,大家注意到了全球貧窮的問題
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the world is talking about Africa
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也談論到了非洲的問題
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in ways I have never seen in my life.
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這是我活到現在第一次看到的。
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It's thrilling.
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真是令人興奮。
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And at the same time, what keeps me up at night
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另一方面,我還是擔心
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is a fear that we'll look at the victories of the G8 --
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大家滿足于G8的勝利
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50 billion dollars in increased aid to Africa,
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500億美元援非
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40 billion in reduced debt -- as the victory,
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400億美元的債務消除
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as more than chapter one, as our moral absolution.
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當作我們道德良心恕罪的完結篇。
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And in fact, what we need to do is see that as chapter one,
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事實上,我們要把這當作第一章
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celebrate it, close it, and recognize that we need a chapter two
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慶祝、了結後,開始寫第二章
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that is all about execution, all about the how-to.
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第二章是有關執行的方法論
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And if you remember one thing from what I want to talk about today,
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我今天的演講你們要是只想記得一件事
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it's that the only way to end poverty, to make it history,
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那就請你們記得:要終結貧窮
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is to build viable systems on the ground
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就要在當地建立可以持久的系統
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that deliver critical and affordable goods and services to the poor,
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來提供重要而不貴的商品和服務給貧苦人家
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in ways that are financially sustainable and scaleable.
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並在財務上可大可小、源遠流長。
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If we do that, we really can make poverty history.
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如果我們能辦到,那才是真正地終結貧窮。
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And it was that -- that whole philosophy --
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在這樣的理念下
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that encouraged me to start my current endeavor
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我開始了目前的奮鬥
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called "Acumen Fund,"
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叫做Acumen基金會
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which is trying to build some mini-blueprints
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我要試著在巴基斯坦、
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for how we might do that in water, health and housing
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印度、肯亞、坦桑尼亞、埃及、
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in Pakistan, India, Kenya, Tanzania and Egypt.
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作一些水利、健康、住房試驗的小計劃。
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And I want to talk a little bit about that, and some of the examples,
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我想多談談這些計劃、例子
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so you can see what it is that we're doing.
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你們才可以看出我們在幹什麽。
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But before I do this -- and this is another one of my pet peeves --
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但是,還有一點讓我個人覺得特別受不了的
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I want to talk a little bit about who the poor are.
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我想先從“窮人”的定義談起
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Because we too often talk about them as these
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我們常常覺得“窮人”是這一大堆
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strong, huge masses of people yearning to be free,
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一大票想要獲得自由的人
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when in fact, it's quite an amazing story.
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但是,背後事實上是令人吃驚的故事。
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On a macro level, four billion people on Earth make less than four dollars a day.
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就宏觀的角度看來,地球上有40億的人每天花不到4美元。
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That's who we talk about when we think about "the poor."
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這是我們想要討論的對象
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If you aggregate it, it's the third largest economy on Earth,
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你如果把他們加在一起,他們是世界的第三大國
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and yet most of these people go invisible.
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然而大部分的人是沒有聲音的
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Where we typically work, there's people making between
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在我們服務的地方
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one and three dollars a day.
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有人一天只花一到三美元。
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Who are these people?
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他們是誰?
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They are farmers and factory workers.
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他們是農夫和工廠工人
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They work in government offices. They're drivers.
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他們是公務員,司機
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They are domestics.
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或是家庭勞務提供者。
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They typically pay for critical goods and services like water,
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對於水電、醫藥、住房等重要項目
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like healthcare, like housing, and they pay 30 to 40 times
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跟他們同國的中產階級比起來
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what their middleclass counterparts pay --
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他們得多付出30到40倍的支出
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certainly where we work in Karachi and Nairobi.
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特別是在卡拉蚩、奈洛比等地方。
07:18
The poor also are willing to make, and do make, smart decisions,
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窮人們也願意去做聰明的決策
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if you give them that opportunity.
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如果你給他們機會的話。
07:24
So, two examples.
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這裡有兩個例子:
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One is in India, where there are 240 million farmers,
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第一個在印度,印度2.4億的農夫
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most of whom make less than two dollars a day.
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大部分每人每天只有2美金的花費
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Where we work in Aurangabad, the land is extraordinarily parched.
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在我們工作的Aurangabad,土地是十分的乾燥
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You see people on average making 60 cents to a dollar.
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一般的人平均只能賺到60美分到一美元
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This guy in pink is a social entrepreneur named Ami Tabar.
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這個穿粉紅色襯衫的企業家叫Ami Tabar
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What he did was see what was happening in Israel, larger approaches,
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他參考了以色列的農耕方式
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and figure out how to do a drip irrigation,
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用很精確的灌溉管道
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which is a way of bringing water directly to the plant stock.
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把水引到植物的根部。
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But previously it's only been created for large-scale farms,
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但是以前這是用於大規模的農業
07:56
so Ami Tabar took this and modularized it down to an eighth of an acre.
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Ami Tabar 把這套系統縮小到適用于8英畝的地
08:01
A couple of principles:
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有以下幾條準則
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build small.
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用小規格
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Make it infinitely expandable and affordable to the poor.
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讓窮人買得起也預留以後的擴張性。
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This family, Sarita and her husband, bought a 15-dollar unit
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這家人,Sarita 和她先生花15美金買了這一套
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when they were living in a -- literally a three-walled lean-to
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當時他們住在家徒四壁的
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with a corrugated iron roof.
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破鐵皮屋頂下。
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After one harvest, they had increased their income enough
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經過一年的收穫,他們有了足夠的收入
08:22
to buy a second system to do their full quarter-acre.
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又買了第二套,擴充到4英畝。
08:25
A couple of years later, I meet them.
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幾年後,我又遇到他們
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They now make four dollars a day, which is pretty much middle class for India,
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他們現在一天賺4美金,幾乎是印度中產階級的水準
08:30
and they showed me the concrete foundation they had just laid
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他們也帶我看了為了房子
08:35
to build their house.
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剛鋪下的水泥地基。
08:36
And I swear, you could see the future in that woman's eyes.
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你真的可以在她的眼裏看到未來。
08:39
Something I truly believe.
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我也真的如此相信。
08:41
You can't talk about poverty today without talking about malaria bed nets,
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在今天談到貧窮就不能不提瘧疾和蚊帳
08:44
and I again give Jeffrey Sachs of Harvard
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再一次地我要把這榮耀
08:47
huge kudos for bringing to the world
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歸給哈佛的Jeffrey Sachs教授,感謝他
08:50
this notion of his rage -- for five dollars you can save a life.
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在全球到處推廣“5美金救一命” 的活動。
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Malaria is a disease that kills one to three million people a year.
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瘧疾每年可以奪走1到3百萬條人命
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300 to 500 million cases are reported.
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並造成3到5億的受害者
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It's estimated that Africa loses
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據估計每年在非洲
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about 13 billion dollars a year to the disease.
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瘧疾造成130億美金的損害。
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Five dollars can save a life.
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5美元可以救一條命。
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We can send people to the moon; we can see if there's life on Mars --
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我們可以送人到月球,或是去看火星上有沒有生命
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why can't we get five-dollar nets to 500 million people?
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為什麽不送給5億人一個5美金的蚊帳?
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The question, though, is not "Why can't we?"
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問題不在於,爲什麽我們不做
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The question is how can we help Africans do this for themselves?
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而在於,我們該如何幫助非洲人自己生産?
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A lot of hurdles.
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有幾道障礙
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One: production is too low. Two: price is too high.
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一:產量太低。二:價格太高。
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Three: this is a good road in -- right near where our factory is located.
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三:這是我們工廠附近的一條“好路”。
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Distribution is a nightmare, but not impossible.
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運輸是一場噩夢,但不是不可能。
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We started by making a 350,000-dollar loan
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我們從一筆35萬美金的貸款開始
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to the largest traditional bed net manufacturer in Africa
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借給非洲最大傳統蚊帳工廠
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so that they could transfer technology from Japan
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使他們能從日本做科技轉移
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and build these long-lasting, five-year nets.
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來生產這種耐用五年的蚊帳。
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Here are just some pictures of the factory.
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這裡是一些工廠的照片。
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Today, three years later, the company has employed
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三年後,在今天這公司已雇用
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another thousand women.
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一千名的女工。
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It contributes about 600,000 dollars in wages to the economy of Tanzania.
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為坦桑尼亞的經濟提供了60萬美元的工資
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It's the largest company in Tanzania.
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成了坦桑尼亞最大的公司。
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The throughput rate right now is 1.5 million nets,
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生産量為150萬張蚊帳
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three million by the end of the year.
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到年底會達到3百萬。
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We hope to have seven million at the end of next year.
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我們希望到明年底可以達到7百萬。
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So the production side is working.
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在生産面上是還可以
10:11
On the distribution side, though,
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但是產品運輸上
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as a world, we have a lot of work to do.
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我們還有很多工作要做。
10:14
Right now, 95 percent of these nets are being bought by the U.N.,
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現在95%的蚊帳是聯合國買去的
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and then given primarily to people around Africa.
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再轉送給非洲其他的人。
10:22
We're looking at building
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我們希望能善用
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on some of the most precious resources of Africa: people.
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非洲最珍貴的資源之一,當地的人
10:27
Their women.
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非洲女人。
10:29
And so I want you to meet Jacqueline,
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我要介紹給你們認識,她跟我同名
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my namesake, 21 years old.
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也叫賈克琳,21歲
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If she were born anywhere else but Tanzania,
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她要不是出生在坦桑尼亞
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I'm telling you, she could run Wall Street.
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那我告訴你,她早就是華爾街的女強人了。
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She runs two of the lines, and has already saved enough money
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她同時管理兩條生産線,已經存夠一些錢
10:41
to put a down payment on her house.
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為她的房子付了頭期款。
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She makes about two dollars a day, is creating an education fund,
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她每天賺大概2美金,還在存一個教育基金
10:47
and told me she is not marrying nor having children
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她告訴我,在這些目標沒達到之前
10:50
until these things are completed.
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她不會結婚或是生小孩。
10:53
And so, when I told her about our idea --
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當我告訴她我的想法
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that maybe we could take a Tupperware model from the United States,
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我們可能可以套用美國家庭直銷的模式
10:58
and find a way for the women themselves to go out
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讓當地的婦女也出去
11:01
and sell these nets to others --
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到家家戶戶賣蚊帳的時候
11:03
she quickly started calculating what she herself could make
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她很快地算了算能賺多少
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and signed up.
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就加入了。
11:08
We took a lesson from IDEO, one of our favorite companies,
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我們從我們最喜歡的公司IEDO學了幾課
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and quickly did a prototyping on this,
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很快地設計出一套原型
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and took Jacqueline into the area where she lives.
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帶著賈桂琳到她住的地方。
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She brought 10 of the women with whom she interacts
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她帶來了十個婦女
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together to see if she could sell these nets, five dollars apiece,
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看看能不能用5美金的價格賣這些蚊帳
11:24
despite the fact that people say nobody will buy one,
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雖然沒人看好她
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and we learned a lot about how you sell things.
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我們卻從她身上學到了很多販賣技巧。
11:30
Not coming in with our own notions,
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這跟我們的想法完全不同
11:32
because she didn't even talk about malaria until the very end.
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因爲她把瘧疾留到最後才談。
11:34
First, she talked about comfort, status, beauty.
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一開始,她談到舒適、地位、美觀
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These nets, she said, you put them on the floor, bugs leave your house.
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她說,把蚊帳放在地上,蟲子就不會進屋
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Children can sleep through the night;
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小孩可以整晚安穩地睡
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the house looks beautiful; you hang them in the window.
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掛在窗戶上的話,房子看起來更漂亮
11:44
And we've started making curtains,
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我們也開始生産窗簾
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and not only is it beautiful, but people can see status --
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不止因爲窗簾看起來漂亮,人們也可以看到你的地位
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that you care about your children.
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看得出你很關心小孩
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Only then did she talk about saving your children's lives.
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在這時候,她才談到了蚊帳可以救小孩的命。
11:56
A lot of lessons to be learned in terms of how we sell
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所以,如何買東西和服務給窮人
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goods and services to the poor.
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我們還有很多要學的。
12:03
I want to end just by saying that there's enormous opportunity
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最後我想說,現在有很多機會
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to make poverty history.
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可以使貧窮成爲過去。
12:10
To do it right, we have to build business models that matter,
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為了做對的事,我們必須建立正確的商業模式
12:13
that are scaleable and that work with Africans, Indians,
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能適用於非洲、印度
12:17
people all over the developing world
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或是全球發展中地區貧窮的人
12:19
who fit in this category, to do it themselves.
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使他們能自立更生
12:22
Because at the end of the day, it's about engagement.
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因爲,到最後,需要的是大家的參與
12:25
It's about understanding that people really don't want handouts,
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需要去了解,施捨並不是人們要的
12:28
that they want to make their own decisions;
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人們想要自己做決定
12:30
they want to solve their own problems;
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想要能自己解決自己的問題
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and that by engaging with them,
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讓他們一同參與
12:34
not only do we create much more dignity for them,
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這不只帶給他們更多的尊嚴
12:37
but for us as well.
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也是為我們帶來尊嚴。
12:39
And so I urge all of you to think next time
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所以我希望大家下次都去想一想
12:42
as to how to engage with this notion and this opportunity
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如何善用這個想法和機會
12:46
that we all have -- to make poverty history --
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使貧窮變成過去
12:49
by really becoming part of the process
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讓大家能一同參與
12:51
and moving away from an us-and-them world,
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揚棄以前那種你是你,我是我的心態
12:53
and realizing that it's about all of us,
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要了解這是與“我們”都有關的
12:55
and the kind of world that we, together, want to live in and share.
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與我們一同要居住和分享的世界息息相關
12:58
Thank you.
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謝謝
12:59
(Applause)
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