Jacqueline Novogratz: Investing in Africa's own solutions

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I want to start with a story, a la Seth Godin,
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from when I was 12 years old.
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My uncle Ed gave me a beautiful blue sweater --
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at least I thought it was beautiful.
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And it had fuzzy zebras walking across the stomach,
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and Mount Kilimanjaro and Mount Meru were kind of
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right across the chest, that were also fuzzy.
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And I wore it whenever I could,
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thinking it was the most fabulous thing I owned.
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Until one day in ninth grade,
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when I was standing with a number of the football players.
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And my body had clearly changed, and Matt,
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who was undeniably my nemesis in high school,
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said in a booming voice that
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we no longer had to go far away to go on ski trips,
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but we could all ski on Mount Novogratz.
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(Laughter)
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And I was so humiliated and mortified
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that I immediately ran home to my mother and chastised her
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for ever letting me wear the hideous sweater.
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We drove to the Goodwill and we threw the sweater away
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somewhat ceremoniously,
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my idea being that I would never have to think about the sweater
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nor see it ever again.
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Fast forward -- 11 years later, I'm a 25-year-old kid.
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I'm working in Kigali, Rwanda, jogging through the steep slopes,
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when I see, 10 feet in front of me, a little boy -- 11 years old --
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running toward me, wearing my sweater.
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And I'm thinking, no, this is not possible.
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But so, curious, I run up to the child -- of course
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scaring the living bejesus out of him --
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grab him by the collar, turn it over, and there is my name
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written on the collar of this sweater.
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I tell that story, because it has served and continues to serve
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as a metaphor to me about the level of connectedness
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that we all have on this Earth.
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We so often don't realize what our action and our inaction
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does to people we think we will never see and never know.
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I also tell it because it tells a larger contextual story
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of what aid is and can be.
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That this traveled into the Goodwill in Virginia,
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and moved its way into the larger industry,
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which at that point was giving millions of tons of secondhand clothing to Africa and Asia.
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Which was a very good thing, providing low cost clothing.
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And at the same time, certainly in Rwanda,
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it destroyed the local retailing industry.
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Not to say that it shouldn't have,
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but that we have to get better at answering the questions
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that need to be considered when we think about consequences
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and responses.
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So, I'm going to stick in Rwanda, circa 1985, 1986,
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where I was doing two things.
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I had started a bakery with 20 unwed mothers.
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We were called the "Bad News Bears," and our notion was
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we were going to corner the snack food business in Kigali,
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which was not hard because there were no snacks before us.
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And because we had a good business model, we actually did it,
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and I watched these women transform on a micro-level.
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But at the same time, I started a micro-finance bank,
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and tomorrow Iqbal Quadir is going to talk about Grameen,
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which is the grandfather of all micro-finance banks,
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which now is a worldwide movement -- you talk about a meme --
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but then it was quite new, especially in an economy
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that was moving from barter into trade.
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We got a lot of things right.
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We focused on a business model; we insisted on skin in the game.
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The women made their own decisions at the end of the day
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as to how they would use this access to credit
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to build their little businesses, earn more income
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so they could take care of their families better.
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What we didn't understand, what was happening all around us,
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with the confluence of fear, ethnic strife
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and certainly an aid game, if you will, that was playing into
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this invisible but certainly palpable movement inside Rwanda,
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that at that time, 30 percent of the budget was all foreign aid.
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The genocide happened in 1994,
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seven years after these women all worked together
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to build this dream.
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And the good news was that the institution,
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the banking institution, lasted.
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In fact, it became the largest rehabilitation lender in the country.
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The bakery was completely wiped out,
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but the lessons for me were that accountability counts --
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got to build things with people on the ground,
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using business models where, as Steven Levitt would say,
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the incentives matter.
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Understand, however complex we may be, incentives matter.
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So when Chris raised to me how wonderful everything
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that was happening in the world,
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that we were seeing a shift in zeitgeist,
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on the one hand I absolutely agree with him,
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and I was so thrilled to see what happened with the G8 --
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that the world, because of people like Tony Blair and Bono
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and Bob Geldof -- the world is talking about global poverty;
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the world is talking about Africa
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in ways I have never seen in my life.
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It's thrilling.
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And at the same time, what keeps me up at night
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is a fear that we'll look at the victories of the G8 --
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50 billion dollars in increased aid to Africa,
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40 billion in reduced debt -- as the victory,
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as more than chapter one, as our moral absolution.
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And in fact, what we need to do is see that as chapter one,
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celebrate it, close it, and recognize that we need a chapter two
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that is all about execution, all about the how-to.
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And if you remember one thing from what I want to talk about today,
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it's that the only way to end poverty, to make it history,
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is to build viable systems on the ground
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that deliver critical and affordable goods and services to the poor,
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in ways that are financially sustainable and scaleable.
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If we do that, we really can make poverty history.
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And it was that -- that whole philosophy --
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that encouraged me to start my current endeavor
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called "Acumen Fund,"
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which is trying to build some mini-blueprints
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for how we might do that in water, health and housing
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in Pakistan, India, Kenya, Tanzania and Egypt.
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And I want to talk a little bit about that, and some of the examples,
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so you can see what it is that we're doing.
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But before I do this -- and this is another one of my pet peeves --
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I want to talk a little bit about who the poor are.
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Because we too often talk about them as these
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strong, huge masses of people yearning to be free,
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when in fact, it's quite an amazing story.
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On a macro level, four billion people on Earth make less than four dollars a day.
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That's who we talk about when we think about "the poor."
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If you aggregate it, it's the third largest economy on Earth,
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and yet most of these people go invisible.
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Where we typically work, there's people making between
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one and three dollars a day.
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Who are these people?
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They are farmers and factory workers.
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They work in government offices. They're drivers.
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They are domestics.
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They typically pay for critical goods and services like water,
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like healthcare, like housing, and they pay 30 to 40 times
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what their middleclass counterparts pay --
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certainly where we work in Karachi and Nairobi.
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The poor also are willing to make, and do make, smart decisions,
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if you give them that opportunity.
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So, two examples.
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One is in India, where there are 240 million farmers,
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most of whom make less than two dollars a day.
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Where we work in Aurangabad, the land is extraordinarily parched.
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You see people on average making 60 cents to a dollar.
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This guy in pink is a social entrepreneur named Ami Tabar.
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What he did was see what was happening in Israel, larger approaches,
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and figure out how to do a drip irrigation,
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which is a way of bringing water directly to the plant stock.
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But previously it's only been created for large-scale farms,
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so Ami Tabar took this and modularized it down to an eighth of an acre.
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A couple of principles:
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build small.
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Make it infinitely expandable and affordable to the poor.
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This family, Sarita and her husband, bought a 15-dollar unit
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when they were living in a -- literally a three-walled lean-to
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with a corrugated iron roof.
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After one harvest, they had increased their income enough
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to buy a second system to do their full quarter-acre.
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A couple of years later, I meet them.
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They now make four dollars a day, which is pretty much middle class for India,
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and they showed me the concrete foundation they had just laid
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to build their house.
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And I swear, you could see the future in that woman's eyes.
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Something I truly believe.
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You can't talk about poverty today without talking about malaria bed nets,
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and I again give Jeffrey Sachs of Harvard
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huge kudos for bringing to the world
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this notion of his rage -- for five dollars you can save a life.
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Malaria is a disease that kills one to three million people a year.
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300 to 500 million cases are reported.
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It's estimated that Africa loses
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about 13 billion dollars a year to the disease.
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Five dollars can save a life.
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We can send people to the moon; we can see if there's life on Mars --
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why can't we get five-dollar nets to 500 million people?
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The question, though, is not "Why can't we?"
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The question is how can we help Africans do this for themselves?
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A lot of hurdles.
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One: production is too low. Two: price is too high.
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Three: this is a good road in -- right near where our factory is located.
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Distribution is a nightmare, but not impossible.
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We started by making a 350,000-dollar loan
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to the largest traditional bed net manufacturer in Africa
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so that they could transfer technology from Japan
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and build these long-lasting, five-year nets.
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Here are just some pictures of the factory.
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Today, three years later, the company has employed
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another thousand women.
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It contributes about 600,000 dollars in wages to the economy of Tanzania.
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It's the largest company in Tanzania.
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The throughput rate right now is 1.5 million nets,
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three million by the end of the year.
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We hope to have seven million at the end of next year.
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So the production side is working.
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On the distribution side, though,
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as a world, we have a lot of work to do.
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Right now, 95 percent of these nets are being bought by the U.N.,
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and then given primarily to people around Africa.
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We're looking at building
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on some of the most precious resources of Africa: people.
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Their women.
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And so I want you to meet Jacqueline,
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my namesake, 21 years old.
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If she were born anywhere else but Tanzania,
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I'm telling you, she could run Wall Street.
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She runs two of the lines, and has already saved enough money
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to put a down payment on her house.
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She makes about two dollars a day, is creating an education fund,
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and told me she is not marrying nor having children
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until these things are completed.
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And so, when I told her about our idea --
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that maybe we could take a Tupperware model from the United States,
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and find a way for the women themselves to go out
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and sell these nets to others --
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she quickly started calculating what she herself could make
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and signed up.
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We took a lesson from IDEO, one of our favorite companies,
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and quickly did a prototyping on this,
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and took Jacqueline into the area where she lives.
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She brought 10 of the women with whom she interacts
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together to see if she could sell these nets, five dollars apiece,
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despite the fact that people say nobody will buy one,
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and we learned a lot about how you sell things.
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Not coming in with our own notions,
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because she didn't even talk about malaria until the very end.
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First, she talked about comfort, status, beauty.
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These nets, she said, you put them on the floor, bugs leave your house.
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Children can sleep through the night;
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the house looks beautiful; you hang them in the window.
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And we've started making curtains,
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and not only is it beautiful, but people can see status --
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that you care about your children.
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Only then did she talk about saving your children's lives.
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A lot of lessons to be learned in terms of how we sell
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goods and services to the poor.
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I want to end just by saying that there's enormous opportunity
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to make poverty history.
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To do it right, we have to build business models that matter,
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that are scaleable and that work with Africans, Indians,
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people all over the developing world
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who fit in this category, to do it themselves.
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Because at the end of the day, it's about engagement.
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It's about understanding that people really don't want handouts,
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that they want to make their own decisions;
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they want to solve their own problems;
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and that by engaging with them,
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not only do we create much more dignity for them,
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but for us as well.
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And so I urge all of you to think next time
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as to how to engage with this notion and this opportunity
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that we all have -- to make poverty history --
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by really becoming part of the process
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and moving away from an us-and-them world,
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and realizing that it's about all of us,
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and the kind of world that we, together, want to live in and share.
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Thank you.
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(Applause)
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