The laws that sex workers really want | Juno Mac

翻译人员: Gu Yu 校对人员: Gabriella Hu

I want to talk about sex for money.

我想讲一讲性交易。

I'm not like most of the people you'll have heard speaking

我不像很多之前各位听到过的

about prostitution before.

以卖淫为主题的演讲者。

I'm not a police officer or a social worker.

我不是警察，也不是社会工作者，

I'm not an academic, a journalist or a politician.

我不是学者，不是记者 也不从政。

And as you'll probably have picked up from Maryam's blurb,

相信大家已经听了 玛丽亚姆的演讲，

I'm not a nun, either.

我也不是修女。

(Laughter)

（笑声）

Most of those people would tell you that selling sex is degrading;

大部分人也许会说 卖淫是可耻的，

that no one would ever choose to do it;

没有人会选择去做。

that it's dangerous; women get abused and killed.

同时卖淫也是危险的， 女人受虐甚至被杀害。

In fact, most of those people would say,

事实上很多人呼吁

"There should be a law against it!"

“应该有法律来制裁卖淫！”

Maybe that sounds reasonable to you.

也许这听起来更合理。

It sounded reasonable to me until the closing months of 2009,

对于我来说合理的是 当2009年的最后几个月，

when I was working two dead-end, minimum-wage jobs.

当我同时做着两份没有出路 只拿最低工资的工作，

Every month my wages would just replenish my overdraft.

每个月的工资仅仅弥补了透支时，

I was exhausted and my life was going nowhere.

当我筋疲力尽，不知道路在何方时。

Like many others before me,

像很多前人一样，

I decided sex for money was a better option.

我决定从事性工作。

Now don't get me wrong --

不要误会，

I would have loved to have won the lottery instead.

我当然也想 通过赢一次乐透来赚钱，

But it wasn't going to happen anytime soon,

但是那只是可遇不可求的事，

and my rent needed paying.

我的房租等着我去付。

So I signed up for my first shift in a brothel.

所以我同妓院 签下了我的第一份合同。

In the years that have passed,

过去的这些年，

I've had a lot of time to think.

我想了很多。

I've reconsidered the ideas I once had about prostitution.

我重新思考了 我对卖淫曾经的看法。

I've given a lot of thought to consent

我对于合约和资本主义下的

and the nature of work under capitalism.

工作本质进行了长时间的思考。

I've thought about gender inequality

我也思考了性别歧视，

and the sexual and reproductive labor of women.

女性的性劳动和生殖劳动。

I've experienced exploitation and violence at work.

工作中我经历过剥削和暴力。

I've thought about what's needed

我也想过我们需要什么

to protect other sex workers from these things.

来保护其他性工作者 远离剥削和暴力。

Maybe you've thought about them, too.

也许你们会有共鸣。

In this talk,

在我的演讲中，

I'll take you through the four main legal approaches

我将介绍全世界主流的 四种与性工作者相关的

applied to sex work throughout the world,

法律手段，

and explain why they don't work;

并且解释为什么它们没有作用。

why prohibiting the sex industry actually exacerbates every harm

为什么禁止色情行业实际上

that sex workers are vulnerable to.

让本来脆弱的性工作者雪上加霜。

Then I'm going tell you about what we, as sex workers, actually want.

然后我将告诉大家作为性工作者 我们真正渴望什么。

The first approach is full criminalization.

第一种法律手段是完全刑事化。

Half the world,

地球上的半数国家，

including Russia, South Africa and most of the US,

包括俄罗斯、南非 和大部分的美国，

regulates sex work by criminalizing everyone involved.

宣布所有从事性工作的人 包括卖春者，卖春者和第三方

So that's seller, buyer and third parties.

是违法的。

Lawmakers in these countries apparently hope

这些国家的立法者显然希望

that the fear of getting arrested will deter people from selling sex.

被捕的恐惧 会遏制人们卖淫的想法。

But if you're forced to choose between obeying the law

但是如果你必须要在遵守法律

and feeding yourself or your family,

和养家糊口中选择一个，

you're going to do the work anyway,

你还是会选择铤而走险

and take the risk.

去卖淫的。

Criminalization is a trap.

刑事化是一个陷阱。

It's hard to get a conventional job when you have a criminal record.

如果你有了犯罪记录 就很难找到传统的工作。

Potential employers won't hire you.

招聘方不会雇佣你。

Assuming you still need money,

假设你仍然需要钱，

you'll stay in the more flexible, informal economy.

你的经济状况 仍然是脆弱的，不正规的。

The law forces you to keep selling sex,

法律不仅没有阻止你，

which is the exact opposite of its intended effect.

反而强迫了你去继续卖淫。

Being criminalized leaves you exposed to mistreatment by the state itself.

卖淫活动的刑事化导致卖淫者 会受到国家本身的不公平对待。

In many places you may be coerced into paying a bribe

很多情况下你不得不用贿赂

or even into having sex with a police officer

甚至与警察官员性交易的方式

to avoid arrest.

来避免被逮捕。

Police and prison guards in Cambodia, for example,

比如说 柬埔寨的警察和监狱看守

have been documented subjecting sex workers

曾经被记录使用折磨的手段

to what can only be described as torture:

对待性工作者：

threats at gunpoint,

用枪恐吓她们，

beatings, electric shocks, rape

殴打，电击，强奸她们

and denial of food.

甚至让她们绝食。

Another worrying thing:

另一件令人担忧的事：

if you're selling sex in places like Kenya, South Africa or New York,

如果你在肯尼亚，南非 或纽约这些地方卖淫，

a police officer can arrest you if you're caught carrying condoms,

如果你被抓到持有避孕套 警察就可以逮捕你，

because condoms can legally be used as evidence that you're selling sex.

因为如果你卖淫 避孕套就是合法的证据。

Obviously, this increases HIV risk.

显然这增加了艾滋病的传播风险。

Imagine knowing if you're busted carrying condoms,

想象一下 如果你被逮捕时身上有避孕套

it'll be used against you.

它将会成为不利的证据。

It's a pretty strong incentive to leave them at home, right?

你将会更倾向于 把它留在家里，对吧？

Sex workers working in these places are forced to make a tough choice

这些地区的性工作者被迫在

between risking arrest or having risky sex.

进行危险的性行为 和被捕之间做出选择。

What would you choose?

你会怎样选择呢？

Would you pack condoms to go to work?

你会带上避孕套去工作么？

How about if you're worried

你会不会担心

the police officer would rape you when he got you in the van?

当警察官员在货车里 抓到你时会直接强奸你呢？

The second approach to regulating sex work seen in these countries

第二种法律手段被这些国家使用，

is partial criminalization,

叫做部分刑事化。

where the buying and selling of sex are legal,

在这些国家卖春买春是合法的，

but surrounding activities,

但是周边的活动，

like brothel-keeping or soliciting on the street, are banned.

比如妓院和站街拉客是违法的。

Laws like these --

像这样的法律被

we have them in the UK and in France --

英国，法国这些国家所实践

essentially say to us sex workers,

本质上是对我们这些性工作者说，

"Hey, we don't mind you selling sex,

“我不介意你卖淫，

just make sure it's done behind closed doors

但是确保你是偷偷地，

and all alone."

一个人做这件事。”

And brothel-keeping, by the way,

妓院，顺便说一句，

is defined as just two or more sex workers working together.

被定义成为两名甚至 更多性工作者一起工作。

Making that illegal means that many of us work alone,

触犯了 卖淫必须单独进行的法律条款，

which obviously makes us vulnerable to violent offenders.

但是显然让我们对待 暴力罪犯时更加危险。

But we're also vulnerable

但是如果我们选择一起工作

if we choose to break the law by working together.

我们还是危险的。

A couple of years ago,

几年前，

a friend of mine was nervous after she was attacked at work,

我的一位朋友 在工作时被袭击后非常紧张，

so I said that she could see her clients from my place for a while.

我让她暂时在我的地方见她的客户。

During that time,

在那段时间，

we had another guy turn nasty.

我们遇到了另一个很下流的人。

I told the guy to leave or I'd call the police.

我让他离开，否则会报警。

And he looked at the two of us and said,

这时他看着我们两个说，

"You girls can't call the cops.

“你们没办法报警。

You're working together, this place is illegal."

你们一起工作，这是违法的。”

He was right.

他是对的。

He eventually left without getting physically violent,

他最终没有使用暴力离开了，

but the knowledge that we were breaking the law

但是他知道我们违反了法律

empowered that man to threaten us.

并且以此为武器要挟我们。

He felt confident he'd get away with it.

他知道我们拿他没有办法。

The prohibition of street prostitution also causes more harm

同样，禁止街头拉客 不但没有减少性工作者的危险，

than it prevents.

反而造成了更多的伤害。

Firstly, to avoid getting arrested,

首先，街头的工作者

street workers take risks to avoid detection,

为了不被发现，避免被捕，

and that means working alone

往往一个人工作，

or in isolated locations like dark forests

或者去僻静的角落比如森林深处，

where they're vulnerable to attack.

在这些情况下他们更容易遭到袭击。

If you're caught selling sex outdoors,

如果你在室外卖淫被发现，

you pay a fine.

你必须缴纳罚款。

How do you pay that fine without going back to the streets?

可是如果你不回到街上 哪里有钱支付罚款呢？

It was the need for money that saw you in the streets

而钱就是迫使那些女人回到街头

in the first place.

最初的原因。

And so the fines stack up,

如果罚款越来越多，

and you're caught in a vicious cycle

她们就陷入了恶性的循环，

of selling sex to pay the fines you got for selling sex.

用卖淫来支付违法卖淫的罚款。

Let me tell you about Mariana Popa who worked in Redbridge, East London.

我来讲一个马里亚纳·波帕的故事 她在雷德布里奇，东伦敦工作。

The street workers on her patch would normally wait for clients in groups

考虑到人多会安全一些 她那里的站街女

for safety in numbers

一般一边聚在一起等待顾客

and to warn each other about how to avoid dangerous guys.

一边互相警告如何避开危险的人。

But during a police crackdown on sex workers and their clients,

但是在警方扫黄打非的活动中，

she was forced to work alone to avoid being arrested.

她被迫一个人工作以防被逮捕。

She was stabbed to death in the early hours of October 29, 2013.

她在2013年10月29日被刺死

She had been working later than usual

她工作的比平常稍晚一些

to try to pay off a fine she had received for soliciting.

只是为了偿还 因为拉客而收到的罚款。

So if criminalizing sex workers hurts them,

那么如果判定 性工作者违法是在伤害她们

why not just criminalize the people who buy sex?

为什么不仅仅刑事处罚买春者呢？

This is the aim of the third approach

这正是第三种法律手段。

I want to talk about --

这种被

the Swedish or Nordic model of sex-work law.

瑞典或北欧各国使用的法律模型。

The idea behind this law

这项立法背后是说

is that selling sex is intrinsically harmful

卖淫本身是有害的，

and so you're, in fact, helping sex workers by removing the option.

买春者实际上让卖春者别无选择。

Despite growing support

然而除了

for what's often described as the "end demand" approach,

所谓的“终极需求”有所增长之外，

there's no evidence that it works.

没有证据显示这项法律有用。

There's just as much prostitution in Sweden as there was before.

瑞典的卖淫者和以前一样多。

Why might that be?

为什么会这样？

It's because people selling sex

因为性工作者

often don't have other options for income.

往往确实没有其他选择。

If you need that money,

如果你需要钱，

the only effect that a drop in business is going have

业务量下降的唯一结果

is to force you to lower your prices

就是让你不得不降低你的价格

or offer more risky sexual services.

或提供更危险的性服务。

If you need to find more clients,

如果你需要更多的客户，

you might seek the help of a manager.

也许需要借助上级的帮助

So you see, rather than putting a stop

所以可见这样立法不仅没有

to what's often descried as pimping,

起到禁止所谓皮条客的作用，

a law like this actually gives oxygen

反而让第三方的存在

to potentially abusive third parties.

越演愈烈。

To keep safe in my work,

为了工作安全，

I try not to take bookings from someone

我尽量不接受

who calls me from a withheld number.

匿名电话预定的嫖客

If it's a home or a hotel visit,

如果是去别人家里或者酒店，

I try to get a full name and details.

我尽量拿到客人全名和信息。

If I worked under the Swedish model,

但是如果我在瑞典法制下工作，

a client would be too scared to give me that information.

顾客可能因为太害怕而拒绝给我信息。

I might have no other choice

我没有办法

but to accept a booking from a man who is untraceable

只能接受匿名电话的预定，

if he later turns out to be violent.

也许这就是一名暴力罪犯。

If you need their money,

如果你需要钱，

you need to protect your clients from the police.

你就必须保护顾客远离警察。

If you work outdoors,

如果你出门工作，

that means working alone or in isolated locations,

就意味着自己工作或者在僻静处工作，

just as if you were criminalized yourself.

就好像你自己判定自己有罪一样。

It might mean getting into cars quicker,

这就意味着快速地上车，

less negotiating time means snap decisions.

没什么时间思考和做决定。

Is this guy dangerous or just nervous?

这个人是危险的还是仅仅是比较紧张？

Can you afford to take the risk?

你承担得起这个风险吗？

Can you afford not to?

你可以不承担吗？

Something I'm often hearing is,

我经常听别人说

"Prostitution would be fine

“如果为卖淫制定法律并合理管理

if we made it legal and regulated it."

卖淫的情况就会好很多。”

We call that approach legalization,

这种方式叫卖淫合法化，

and it's used by countries like the Netherlands, Germany

被荷兰，德国和美国的内华达州

and Nevada in the US.

所采用。

But it's not a great model for human rights.

但是从人权的角度来说 这不是一个好的模型。

And in state-controlled prostitution,

在国家控制卖淫的情况下

commercial sex can only happen

性交易

in certain legally-designated areas or venues,

只可以在法定区域或街道上获得，

and sex workers are made to comply with special restrictions,

性工作者也必须遵守特殊的规定，

like registration and forced health checks.

比如注册和强制身体体检。

Regulation sounds great on paper,

规定理论上听起来很好，

but politicians deliberately make regulation around the sex industry

但是政客们故意提高 性产业的价格门槛，

expensive and difficult to comply with.

让这些规章制度非常难以遵守。

It creates a two-tiered system: legal and illegal work.

这形成了 合法和非法工作并存的双重系统。

We sometimes call it "backdoor criminalization."

有时我们叫它 “秘密犯罪化”。

Rich, well-connected brothel owners can comply with the regulations,

人脉广又富有的老鸨们 可以遵守相关的规定，

but more marginalized people find those hoops

但是更多产业边缘的人

impossible to jump through.

根本无法通过相关的规定。

And even if it's possible in principle,

即使政策上允许，

getting a license or proper venue takes time and costs money.

获得经营地点和经营许可 也需要大量的时间和金钱

It's not going to be an option

对于那些急切地需要钱的人来说

for someone who's desperate and needs money tonight.

这是不可能的。

They might be a refugee or fleeing domestic abuse.

她们也许是难民 也许正在逃离家庭暴力

In this two-tiered system,

在这个双层系统里，

the most vulnerable people are forced to work illegally,

最脆弱的人被迫违法工作，

so they're still exposed to all the dangers of criminalization

仍然暴露在我之前所说的

I mentioned earlier.

各种犯罪的危险之中。

So.

所以

It's looking like all attempts to control

似乎所有想要控制

or prevent sex work from happening

或者阻止性工作的方式

makes things more dangerous for people selling sex.

都反而让性工作者更加危险。

Fear of law enforcement makes them work alone in isolated locations,

对制定法律的恐惧 让她们在僻静的角落孤独的工作

and allows clients and even cops

遭受客人们甚至警察

to get abusive in the knowledge they'll get away with it.

的虐待因为他们可以逍遥法外。

Fines and criminal records force people to keep selling sex,

罚款和犯罪记录逼迫她们不停地卖淫，

rather than enabling them to stop.

而不是阻止她们。

Crackdowns on buyers drive sellers to take dangerous risks

针对买春者的打击行动反而增加了卖春者

and into the arms of potentially abusive managers.

受虐待的风险并助长了第三方产业。

These laws also reinforce stigma and hatred against sex workers.

法律也将对性工作者的 耻辱和仇恨钉在大家心中。

When France temporarily brought in the Swedish model two years ago,

当两年前法国引入瑞典模型时

ordinary citizens took it as a cue

民众纷纷受到影响

to start carrying out vigilante attacks

举行一系列的民众抗争

against people working on the street.

抵制街头工作的性工作者。

In Sweden, opinion surveys show

在瑞典民意调查显示

that significantly more people want sex workers to be arrested now

在相关法律实施以后 更多的人希望

than before the law was brought in.

性工作者被逮捕。

If prohibition is this harmful,

如果禁令如此有害

you might ask, why it so popular?

你也许会问为什么它这么受欢迎？

Firstly, sex work is and always has been a survival strategy

首先，性工作从古至今一直是

for all kinds of unpopular minority groups:

不受欢迎的少数群体的生存策略。

people of color,

包括有色人种，

migrants,

移民，

people with disabilities,

残障人士，

LGBTQ people,

同性恋泛性恋人群，

particularly trans women.

尤其是人妖。

These are the groups most heavily profiled

这些人是受到卖淫管制的

and punished through prohibitionist law.

针对和惩罚最严重的。

I don't think this is an accident.

我不认为这是巧合。

These laws have political support

这些法律背后都有特定的政治支持

precisely because they target people

因为他们就是针对

that voters don't want to see or know about.

选民所不喜欢看到或知道的人。

Why else might people support prohibition?

还有民众支持禁止卖淫的原因么？

Well, lots of people have understandable fears about trafficking.

很多人对 贩卖人口有无可厚非的恐惧。

Folks think that foreign women kidnapped and sold into sexual slavery

民众认为如果整个卖淫产业被禁止

can be saved by shutting a whole industry down.

外国女人就不会被绑架 和作为性奴隶进行买卖。

So let's talk about trafficking.

所以我们谈谈人口买卖。

Forced labor does occur in many industries,

强制劳动在很多国家都屡见不鲜，

especially those where the workers are migrants or otherwise vulnerable,

尤其发生在移民劳工 和其他弱势群体中，

and this needs to be addressed.

这是一个需要解决的问题。

But it's best addressed with legislation targeting those specific abuses,

但是最好立法 直接针对特殊的受虐待群体，

not an entire industry.

而不是整个产业。

When 23 undocumented Chinese migrants

当23名中国偷渡者

drowned while picking cockles in Morecambe Bay in 2004,

在2004年莫克姆湾 捡拾蛤蜊被淹死时，

there were no calls to outlaw the entire seafood industry

不会因为要解决人口买卖问题

to save trafficking victims.

而认定整个海产行业违法。

The solution is clearly to give workers more legal protections,

解决问题的关键是给予 工作者更多的合法保护

allowing them to resist abuse

让他们抵抗虐待

and report it to authorities without fear of arrest.

并无畏地报告给有关部门。

The way the term trafficking is thrown around

人口贩卖这个词语的泛滥使用

implies that all undocumented migration into prostitution is forced.

意味着似乎所有的偷渡者 从事卖淫行业时都是被迫的。

In fact, many migrants have made a decision,

实际上很多移民出于经济需要

out of economic need,

已经做了决定

to place themselves into the hands of people smugglers.

把他们自己的命运交给走私者。

Many do this with the full knowledge

很多人完全知道

that they'll be selling sex when they reach their destination.

自己将在目的地做一个性工作者。

And yes, it can often be the case

是的，往往

that these people smugglers demand exorbitant fees,

这些走私者要价过高，

coerce migrants into work they don't want to do

强迫移民做他们不想做的事，

and abuse them when they're vulnerable.

虐待那些脆弱的人。

That's true of prostitution,

这在卖淫行业是真实存在的，

but it's also true of agricultural work,

但是这在农业劳动，酒店工作

hospitality work and domestic work.

和家务劳动中也是存在的。

Ultimately, nobody wants to be forced to do any kind of work,

说到底没人愿意被强迫做任何事情，

but that's a risk many migrants are willing to take,

但是很多移民愿意铤而走险，

because of what they're leaving behind.

因为不堪回首的过去。

If people were allowed to migrate legally

如果人们可以合法移民

they wouldn't have to place their lives into the hands of people smugglers.

他们就不用把性命 交到走私者的手里。

The problems arise

我们从

from the criminalization of migration,

性交易非法的问题

just as they do from the criminalization

讨论到随意移民是

of sex work itself.

非法的问题。

This is a lesson of history.

历史的经验告诉我们

If you try to prohibit something that people want or need to do,

如果你想禁止民众想要或者需要的

whether that's drinking alcohol or crossing borders

无论是饮酒还是跨越国界，

or getting an abortion

无论是堕胎

or selling sex,

还是性交易，

you create more problems than you solve.

总有解决不完的问题。

Prohibition barely makes a difference

禁令对于

to the amount of people actually doing those things.

正在做这些事的人 基本没什么用。

But it makes a huge difference

但是禁令对于

as to whether or not they're safe when they do them.

他们在做这些的时候的 人身安全影响巨大。

Why else might people support prohibition?

还有民众支持禁令的其他原因么？

As a feminist, I know that the sex industry is a site

作为女权主义者， 我知道性产业深刻地

of deeply entrenched social inequality.

反映了社会的不平衡。

It's a fact that most buyers of sex are men with money,

事实上大多数买春者是有钱的男性，

and most sellers are women without.

大多数卖春者是没钱的女性。

You can agree with all that -- I do --

你我都同意这些

and still think prohibition is a terrible policy.

但我仍然认为 禁止性交易是一个糟糕的政策。

In a better, more equal world,

在一个更加美好和平等的社会，

maybe there would be far fewer people selling sex to survive,

将会有很少的人 为了生存进行性交易，

but you can't simply legislate a better world into existence.

但是你不能简单地 通过立法改善世界。

If someone needs to sell sex because they're poor

如果有的人因为穷困 或者无家可归

or because they're homeless

而选择性交易

or because they're undocumented and they can't find legal work,

或者他们因为没有身份 不能找到合法的工作，

taking away that option doesn't make them any less poor

禁止卖淫不能让他们富有

or house them

也不能提供他们住房

or change their immigration status.

或者改变身份状况。

People worry that selling sex is degrading.

人们担心卖淫是可耻的。

Ask yourself: is it more degrading than going hungry

扪心自问：它会比挨饿更加可耻吗？

or seeing your children go hungry?

它会比看着你的孩子 挨饿更加可耻么？

There's no call to ban rich people from hiring nannies

没有政策禁止富人雇佣保姆

or getting manicures,

或者修指甲，

even though most of the people doing that labor are poor, migrant women.

尽管做这些苦力活的 大多是贫穷的女性移民。

It's the fact of poor migrant women selling sex specifically

只有当那些 贫穷的女性移民进行性交易时

that has some feminists uncomfortable.

才让一些女权主义者不安。

And I can understand

我可以理解

why the sex industry provokes strong feelings.

为什么性产业 会引发强烈的不满情绪。

People have all kinds of complicated feelings

当提到性的时候

人们都有很复杂的情绪。

when it comes to sex.

But we can't make policy on the basis of mere feelings,

但是我们不能仅仅根据情绪立法，

especially not over the heads of the people

更不能不考虑实际上 会被法律影响的人们

actually effected by those policies.

而立法。

If we get fixated on the abolition of sex work,

如果我们对于 废除性交易念念不忘，

we end up worrying more about a particular manifestation

最终只会担心更多的性别不平等

of gender inequality,

的其他特例，

rather than about the underlying causes.

而不是真正地思考背后的原因。

People get really hung up on the question,

人们往往全神贯注于诸如

"Well, would you want your daughter doing it?"

“为什么你让女儿做这种事？” 的问题。

That's the wrong question.

这不是我们要解决的问题。

Instead, imagine she is doing it.

而是想象她在做这种事的时候

How safe is she at work tonight?

晚上工作有多安全？

Why isn't she safer?

为什么不能更安全？

So we've looked at full criminalization,

所以我们已经了解了完全刑事化

partial criminalization, the Swedish or Nordic Model

部分刑事化，瑞典北欧模型

and legalization,

和合法化，

and how they all cause harm.

也知道为什么他们都会造成伤害。

Something I never hear asked is:

我从没听见过有人问：

"What do sex workers want?"

“性工作者需要什么？”

After all, we're the ones most affected by these laws.

毕竟我们是最受法律影响的人。

New Zealand decriminalized sex work in 2003.

新西兰2003年使性交易无罪化。

It's crucial to remember

切记

that decriminalization and legalization are not the same thing.

无罪化和合法化不是一样的。

Decriminalization means the removal of laws

无罪化意味着针对 性产业的法律惩罚

that punitively target the sex industry,

被移除，

instead treating sex work much like any other kind of work.

而不是像其他职业一样 平等看待性产业。

In New Zealand, people can work together for safety,

在新西兰人们可以 为了安全一起工作，

and employers of sex workers are accountable to the state.

性工作者的雇主接受国家的监督。

A sex worker can refuse to see a client at any time,

性工作者可以在任何时间 以任何理由

for any reason,

拒绝去见一个客户，

and 96 percent of street workers

96%的街道工作者

report that they feel the law protects their rights.

认为法律保护了她们的权益。

New Zealand hasn't actually seen an increase

尽管无罪化让她们更加安全。

in the amount of people doing sex work,

在新西兰从事

but decriminalizing it has made it a lot safer.

性工作的人数并没有上升。

But the lesson from New Zealand

但是新西兰的故事

isn't just that its particular legislation is good,

并不能说明其特殊的立法是好的，

but that crucially,

但是重要的是，

it was written in collaboration with sex workers;

这项法律是性工作者合作制定的。

namely, the New Zealand Prostitutes' Collective.

也就是新西兰的妓女联合会。

When it came to making sex work safer,

当谈到如何保护性工作者的安全时，

they were ready to hear it straight from sex workers themselves.

工会愿意直接听到 性工作者自己的声音。

Here in the UK,

在英国，

I'm part of sex worker-led groups like the Sex Worker Open University

我是性工作者领导集体中的一份子 比如性工作者公开大学和

and the English Collective of Prostitutes.

英国妓女联合会。

And we form part of a global movement

我们组织全球性活动

demanding decriminalization and self-determination.

要求无罪化和自我决定权。

The universal symbol of our movement is the red umbrella.

我们行动的通用符号是红雨伞。

We're supported in our demands by global bodies like UNAIDS,

我们的要求得到了 联合国艾滋病规划署

the World Health Organization

世界卫生组织

and Amnesty International.

和国际特赦组织的支持。

But we need more allies.

但是我们需要更多盟友。

If you care about gender equality

如果您关注性别不平等

or poverty or migration or public health,

或者贫穷问题、 移民问题、公共卫生问题，

then sex worker rights matter to you.

那么保护性工作者的权益 对您而言至关重要。

Make space for us in your movements.

让我们与您同行。

That means not only listening to sex workers when we speak

这不仅意味着倾听性工作者说的话

but amplifying our voices.

更意味着放大我们的声音。

Resist those who silence us,

反对那些让我们沉默的人

those who say that a prostitute is either too victimized,

反对那些说妓女 被欺骗或者被伤害

too damaged to know what's best for herself,

以至于不知道 如何保护自己

or else too privileged

反对那些在特权恩惠下的，

and too removed from real hardship,

远离苦难生活的，

not representative of the millions of voiceless victims.

无法代表数百万 微言轻的受害者的人。

This distinction between victim and empowered is imaginary.

受害者和掌权者的区别是虚假的。

It exists purely to discredit sex workers

它的存在只是为了 败坏性工作者的名声

and make it easy to ignore us.

让社会更加轻易的无视我们。

No doubt many of you work for a living.

在座各位为谋生而工作。

Well, sex work is work, too.

性工作也是工作。

Just like you,

就像各位一样，

some of us like our jobs,

有些人热爱自己的工作

some of us hate them.

有些人憎恨它。

Ultimately, most of us have mixed feelings.

最终我们中大多数人 对这份工作都怀着复杂的感情。

But how we feel about our work

但是我们对工作是什么感情

isn't the point.

并不是重点。

And how others feel about our work certainly isn't.

别人怎么看我们的工作也不是重点。

What's important is that we have the right to work safely

重要的是我们有权利 根据我们自己的主张

and on our own terms.

安全的工作。

Sex workers are real people.

性工作者也是人。

We've had complicated experiences

我们有复杂的经历

and complicated responses to those experiences.

和对那些经历复杂的反应。

But our demands are not complicated.

但是我们的要求并不复杂。

You can ask expensive escorts in New York City,

你可以问在纽约的高级陪护，

brothel workers in Cambodia, street workers in South Africa

柬埔寨的妓女， 南非的站街工作者，

and every girl on the roster at my old job in Soho,

和我以前工作过的伦敦苏活区里 每一个名单上的女孩，

and they will all tell you the same thing.

他们都会告诉你同样的事情。

You can speak to millions of sex workers

你可以问千千万万个性工作者

and countless sex work-led organizations.

和不计其数的性工作领导机构。

We want full decriminalization and labor rights as workers.

我们需要完全的无罪化 和其他工作者一样的劳动者权益。

I'm just one sex worker on the stage today,

今天我只是一个 站在台上的性工作者，

but I'm bringing a message from all over the world.

但是我带来了全世界的声音。

Thank you.

谢谢。

(Applause)

（掌声）