How college loans exploit students for profit | Sajay Samuel

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翻译人员: Ke Ding 校对人员: Tingting Zhong
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Today 40 million Americans are indebted for their passage to the new economy.
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现在,四千万美国人为了奔小康而背上债务
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Too poor to pay their way through college,
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穷到无法支付自己的大学学费,
00:22
they now owe lenders more than one trillion US dollars.
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这些人的负债总额已超过一万亿美元。
00:27
They do find what jobs they can get
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的确,他们能找到工作
00:29
to pay off a debt that is secured on their person.
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来偿还以个人名义担保的债务。
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In America,
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在美国,
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even a bankrupt gambler gets a second chance.
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即使是破产的赌徒也有重来的机会。
00:42
But it is nearly impossible
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但是一个美国人
00:45
for an American to get discharged their student loan debts.
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想要还清其助学贷款却几乎是不可能的。
00:52
Once upon a time in America,
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以前在美国,
00:55
going to college did not mean graduating with debt.
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上大学不意味着要负债毕业。
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My friend Paul's father graduated from Colorado State University
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我的朋友保罗,他的父亲 在退伍军人法案的帮助下,
01:04
on the GI Bill.
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从科罗拉多州立大学毕业了。
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For his generation,
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他那个时代,
01:09
higher education was free or almost free,
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高等教育基本上是免费的,
01:12
because it was thought of as a public good.
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因为当时高等教育被认为是一种公益事业。
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Not anymore.
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现在不是了。
01:18
When Paul also graduated from Colorado State University,
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当保罗也从 科罗拉多州立大学毕业时,
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he paid for his English degree by working part-time.
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他是通过兼职才拿到了他的英语学位。
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30 years ago,
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30年前,
01:27
higher education tuition was affordable, reasonable,
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高等教育的学费定价合理, 大多数人都能支付得起,
01:30
and what debts you accumulated, you paid off by graduation date.
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你欠下的债务在毕业的时候也能还清。
01:33
Not anymore.
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现在就不可能了。
01:35
Paul's daughter followed in his footsteps,
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保罗的女儿遵循父辈的足迹 (也去了科罗拉多大学),
01:39
but with one difference:
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有一点不同的是,
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when she graduated five years ago,
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五年前,她毕业的时候
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it was with a whopping debt.
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就背负了巨大的债务。
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Students like Kate have to take on a loan
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像凯特那样的孩子只能贷款
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because the cost of higher education has become unaffordable
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因为高等教育的费用
对于大多数家庭来说都难以承受。
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for many if not most American families.
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01:56
But so what?
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但那又怎样呢?
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Getting into debt to buy an expensive education
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如果将来可以赚更多的钱来还债,
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is not all bad if you could pay it off
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现在借钱来读书
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with the increased income that you earned from it.
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02:07
But that's where the rubber meets the road.
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但是事实上,
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Even a college grad earned 10 percent more in 2001
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2001年的毕业生
都比2013年毕业的她收入多出10%
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than she did in 2013.
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02:19
So ...
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所以,
02:21
tuition costs up,
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学费越来越贵,
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public funding down,
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公共资金支持越来越少,
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family incomes diminished,
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家庭存款越来越少,
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personal incomes weak.
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个人收入越来越低。
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Is it any wonder that more than a quarter of those who must
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所以这也难怪为什么有四分之一的学生
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cannot make their student loan payments?
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肯定没有办法还清他们的助学贷款了吧。
02:38
The worst of times can be the best of times,
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最坏的时代也可能是最好的时代,
02:41
because certain truths flash up in ways that you can't ignore.
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因为你无法忽视很多血淋淋的真相。
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I want to speak of three of them today.
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我今天想说三点。
02:49
1.2 trillion dollars of debts for diplomas
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1.2 万亿的助学贷款债务
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make it abundantly obvious
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非常明显地证明了
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that higher education is a consumer product you can buy.
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高等学位已经变成了 可以购买的消费品。
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All of us talk about education just as the economists do now,
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与经济学家一样,我们把教育
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as an investment that you make to improve the human stock
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看成是一种通过培训
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by training them for work.
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来提升人类的投资。
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As an investment you make to sort and classify people
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是一种将人排序分类从而
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so that employers can hire them more easily.
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帮助雇主挑选人才的投资。
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The U.S. News & World Report ranks colleges
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美国新闻与世界报道对大学进行排名,
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just as the consumer report rates washing machines.
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就像顾客为洗衣机排名一样。
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The language is peppered with barbarisms.
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往往措辞犀利
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Teachers are called "service providers,"
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教师们被称为“提供服务者”,
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students are called "consumers."
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学生们则是“消费者”。
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Sociology and Shakespeare and soccer and science,
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社会学、莎士比亚、足球和科学
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all of these are "content."
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所有这些都是“(商品的)内容”。
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Student debt is profitable.
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学生贷款是有利可图的,
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Only not on you.
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但不是通过学生来实现利润
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Your debt fattens the profit of the student loan industry.
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你的债务则增加了学生贷款市场的利润。
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The two 800-pound gorillas of which --
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两大学生贷款供应商
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Sallie Mae and Navient --
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Sallie Mae and Navient
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posted last year a combined profit of 1.2 billion dollars.
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去年一共赚取12亿美元。
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And just like home mortgages,
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就像房贷一样,
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student loans can be bundled and packaged and sliced and diced,
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学生贷款也可以捆绑或分割
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and sold on Wall Street.
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并在华尔街出售。
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And colleges and universities
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那些投资于证券化贷款的
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that invest in these securitized loans
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大学和学院
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profit twice.
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便可从中获利两次,
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Once from your tuition,
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首先是从你缴纳的学费
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and then again from the interest on debt.
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然后再从债务利息中获利。
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With all that money to be made,
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有如此可观的利润,
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are we surprised that some in the higher education business
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那么一些高等教育企业
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have begun to engage in false advertising,
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开始打虚假广告,
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in bait and switch ...
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通过引诱或偷换概念
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in exploiting the very ignorance that they pretend to educate?
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来剥削那些毫不知情的, 这些企业假装去“培养”的学生,
就毫不稀奇了
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Third:
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第三,
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diplomas are a brand.
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学位是一种品牌。
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Many years ago my teacher wrote,
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许多年前我的老师写到
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"When students are treated as consumers,
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“当学生被当成消费者,
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they're made prisoners of addiction and envy."
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上瘾和嫉妒就会应运而生。
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Just as consumers can be sold and resold upgraded versions of an iPhone,
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商家可以不断将最新款的iPhone卖给消费者,
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so also people can be sold more and more education.
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学校也可以向人们兜售教育。
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College is the new high school,
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大学是新的高中。
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we already say that.
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我们早已深知这点。
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But why stop there?
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但是我们就此停止吗?
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People can be upsold on certifications and recertifications,
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人们想考取证书、认证新的证书
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master's degrees, doctoral degrees.
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取得硕士、甚至博士学位。
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Higher education is also marketed as a status object.
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高等教育是一种地位象征。
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Buy a degree,
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购买一个学位,
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much like you do a Lexus of a Louis Vuitton bag,
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与买一辆雷克萨斯轿车或一个路易威登包一样,
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to distinguish yourself from others.
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都能彰显你的与众不同。
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So you can be the object of envy of others.
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这样你就可以成为别人羡慕妒忌的对象。
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Diplomas are a brand.
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文凭是一种品牌。
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But these truths are often times hidden by a very noisy sales pitch.
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然而这些真相通常都被嘈杂的商业宣传所掩盖。
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There is not a day that goes by
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每一天都有一些讲政策的人
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without some policy guy on television telling us,
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在电视上说:
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"A college degree is absolutely essential
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”拥有大学学位是
过上中产阶级的生活的必需品“
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to get on that up escalator to a middle-class life."
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06:00
And the usual evidence offered is the college premium:
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通常此言论的证据是大学溢价:
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a college grad who makes on average 56 percent more than a high school grad.
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大学毕业生的收入平均 比高中毕业生的收入高出56%
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Let's look at that number more carefully,
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让我们更仔细地看一下统计数据。
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because on the face of it,
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因为这和我们平时听到的版本不太一样
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it seems to belie the stories we all hear
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about college grads working as baristas and cashiers.
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我们通常听到的是大学毕业生 在咖啡店打工或是做收银员
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Of 100 people who enroll in any form of post-secondary education,
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每一百名受过中学后教育的人中,
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45 do not complete it in a timely fashion,
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有45名学生未能及时毕业,
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for a number of reasons, including financial.
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原因各一,也包括经济因素
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Of the 55 that do graduate,
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而在55位顺利毕业的人当中,
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two will remain unemployed,
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2位将找不到工作、
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and another 18 are underemployed.
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18位的才华得不到充分施展。
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So, college grads earn more than high school grads,
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大学毕业生的确比高中毕业生挣得更多,
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but does it pay for the exorbitant tuition
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但这真的能支付高昂的学费、
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and the lost wages while at college?
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抵消大学时期本可用来工作的收入吗?
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Now even economists admit
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现在经济学家甚至都承认
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going to college pays off for only those who complete it.
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只有对能完成学业的来说, 大学才是值得的。
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But that's only because high school wages have been cut to the bone,
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但这仅仅是因为几十年来,
高中毕业生的工资少的可怜。
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for decades now.
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07:07
For decades,
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几十年来,
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workers with a high school degree
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拥有高中学历的人们
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have been denied a fair share of what they have produced.
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无法按劳取酬。
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And had they received as they should have,
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如果他们得到了自己应有的报酬,
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then going to college would have been a bad investment for many.
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那么对许多人来说, 上大学不是个划算的事儿。
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College premium?
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我想,大学溢价其实是
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I think it's a high school discount.
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高中折价。
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Two out of three people who enroll are not going to find an adequate job.
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三分之二的大学生并不能找到适合的工作。
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And the future, for them, doesn't look particularly promising --
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前景也并不光明,
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in fact, it's downright bleak.
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甚至是彻底的灰暗。
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And it is they who are going to suffer
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而正是这些大学生们,
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the most punishing forms of student debt.
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他们将承担助学贷款的重担。
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And it is they,
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正是这些大学生们,
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curiously and sadly,
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好奇又有些可悲地,
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who are marketed most loudly about this college premium thing.
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大肆宣扬大学溢价。
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That's not just cynical marketing,
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这样的市场营销不仅是讽刺的,
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that's cruel.
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更是残酷的。
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So what do we do?
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那么我们应该怎么做呢?
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What if students and parents treated higher education as a consumer product?
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如果学生和家长把高等教育看成消费品怎么样?
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Everybody else seems to.
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其他人都是这样看待的
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Then, like any other consumer product,
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然后,就像其他的消费产品一样,
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you would demand to know what you're paying for.
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你会想要知道你到底购买了什么产品。
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When you buy medicines,
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当你购买药物的时候,
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you get a list of side effects.
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商家会标出一系列的副作用。
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When you buy a higher educational product,
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当你购买高等教育这个产品时,
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you should have a warning label
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学校也应该设置提示标语,
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that allows consumers to choose,
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以供消费者选择,
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make informed choices.
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从而理性购物。
08:26
When you buy a car,
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当你买汽车时,
08:28
it tells you how many miles per gallon to expect.
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汽车经销商会告诉你每加仑油 可以行进的英里数。
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Who knows what to expect
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比如,就学位来说,
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from a degree say, in Canadian Studies.
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谁都不知道“加拿大研究”能带来什么呢。
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There is such a thing, by the way.
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这仅只是一个例子而已。
08:40
What if there was an app for that?
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如果有一个专门的应用呢?
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One that linked up the cost of a major to the expected income.
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应用将专业的花费和估计的收入联系起来,
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Let's call it Income-Based Tuition or IBT.
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取名为收入基准学费或IBT。
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One of you make this.
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在座的就做过类似app。
08:56
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
08:57
Discover your reality.
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评估你的现实条件。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
09:01
There are three advantages,
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根据收入决定学费
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three benefits to Income-Based Tuition.
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有三个好处。
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Any user can figure out
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任何人都可以判断出
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how much money he or she will make from a given college and major.
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大学学位或专业能够带来多少收入。
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Such informed users
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这样,人们充分了解后,
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are unlikely to fall victim to the huckster's ploy,
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就不会陷于过度的
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to the sales pitch.
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宣传和推销中,
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But also to choose wisely.
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做出更加明智的选择。
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Why would anybody pay more for college
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如果大学的学费比将来收入要高出15%
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than let's say, 15 percent of the additional income they earn?
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那何苦还要上大学呢?
09:29
There's a second benefit to Income-Based Tuition.
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第二个好处是,
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By tying the cost to the income,
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将花费与收入相连
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college administrators would be forced to manage costs better,
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也能迫使大学管理者们更好地
想出更多新办法来控制费用。
09:39
to find innovative ways to do so.
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For instance,
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例如,
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all of you students here pay roughly the same tuition for every major.
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不同专业的学生学费大概相同
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That is manifestly unfair, and should change.
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这很明显是不公平的,需要进行调整。
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An engineering student uses more resources
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学工程的比学哲学的
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and facilities and labs and faculty
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运用更多资源和设施、
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than a philosophy student.
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需要更多实验室和教职工。
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But the philosophy student, as a consequence,
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结果就是哲学专业的学生
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is subsidizing the engineering student.
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在补贴着工程专业的学生。
10:06
Who then, by the way, goes on and earns more money.
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但是,谁又挣得更多呢?
10:09
Why should two people buy the same product,
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为什么两个人付相同的费用、
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pay the same,
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买相同的产品,
10:13
but one person receive half or a third of the service.
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却有一个人只能获得一半或三分之一的服务呢?
10:18
In fact, college grads, some majors,
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实际上,一些专业的毕业生
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pay 25 percent of their income servicing their student debt,
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要拿出25%的工资付学生贷款,
10:26
while others pay five percent.
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而其他专业的学生只需拿出5%。
10:29
That kind if inequity would end when majors are priced more correctly.
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只有将不同专业更适当地定价 才能结束这种不平等现象。
10:35
Now of course, all this data --
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当然,定价的数据,
10:37
and one of you is going to do this, right?
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在座的会有人做这个,对吧?
10:39
All this data has to be well designed,
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定价需要合理设计,
10:41
maybe audited by public accounting firms
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也许需要公共会计师事务所来审计
10:43
to avoid statistical lies.
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避免统计失误。
10:45
We know about statistics, right?
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我们都对统计略知一二。
10:48
But be that as it may,
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尽管如此
10:50
the third and biggest benefit of Income-Based Tuition,
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收入基准学费的第三个,也是最大的好处是,
10:54
is it would free Americans from the fear and the fact of financial ruin
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即便人们买了有缺陷的产品
也不会产生消费恐惧或者巨大的经济负担
10:59
because they bought a defective product.
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11:02
Perhaps, in time,
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也许,最后
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young and old Americans may rediscover,
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美国人会重新发掘,
11:07
as the gentleman said earlier,
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就如人们之前所说,
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their curiosity, their love of learning --
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自己的好奇心和对知识的渴望,
11:11
begin to study what they love,
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会开始学习自己热爱的,
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love what they study,
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热爱自己学到的,
11:14
follow their passion ...
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追随自己的热情,
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getting stimulated by their intelligence,
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用他们的才智,
11:19
follow paths of inquiry that they really want to.
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去探索他们真正想了解的。
11:22
After all, it was Eric and Kevin,
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毕竟,两年前
正是Eric和Kevin,
11:27
two years ago,
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just exactly these kinds of young men,
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这样的年轻人,
11:32
who prompted me and worked with me,
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给我鼓励、与我并肩作战
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and still do,
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直至今日,
11:36
in the study of indebted students in America.
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研究美国负债学生的情况。
11:41
Thank you for your attention.
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感谢您的倾听。
11:42
(Applause)
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