How college loans exploit students for profit | Sajay Samuel

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譯者: 易帆 余 審譯者: Coco Shen
00:12
Today 40 million Americans are indebted for their passage to the new economy.
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現今有四千萬個美國人 在通往新型經濟的道路上負債。
00:20
Too poor to pay their way through college,
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因為無法承擔大學學費,
00:22
they now owe lenders more than one trillion US dollars.
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他們欠債權人的錢超過一兆美元。
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They do find what jobs they can get
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他們得做任何工作,
00:29
to pay off a debt that is secured on their person.
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來償還鎖死在他們身上的債務。
00:33
In America,
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在美國,
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even a bankrupt gambler gets a second chance.
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即使是一個破產的賭徒 都有二次機會。
00:42
But it is nearly impossible
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但對一個美國人而言, 想清償他的學生貸款,
00:45
for an American to get discharged their student loan debts.
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幾乎是不可能的。
00:52
Once upon a time in America,
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曾幾何時,
00:55
going to college did not mean graduating with debt.
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在美國上大學不等於舉債。
00:59
My friend Paul's father graduated from Colorado State University
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我的朋友保羅的父親, 畢業於科羅拉多州立大學
01:04
on the GI Bill.
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主修美國軍事法。
01:07
For his generation,
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在他父親的那個世代,
01:09
higher education was free or almost free,
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高等教育幾乎是免費的,
01:12
because it was thought of as a public good.
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因為大家公認教育是有意義的。
01:15
Not anymore.
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但好景不再,
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When Paul also graduated from Colorado State University,
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當保羅從科羅拉多州立大學 的英語科系畢業,
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he paid for his English degree by working part-time.
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他必須得打工償還他的學貸。
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30 years ago,
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三十年前,
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higher education tuition was affordable, reasonable,
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高等教育的學費是 大家都負擔的起的合理費用,
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and what debts you accumulated, you paid off by graduation date.
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你累計的債務, 在你畢業那天就會償還完畢。
01:33
Not anymore.
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再也不是如此了。
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Paul's daughter followed in his footsteps,
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保羅的女兒步上了他的後塵,
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but with one difference:
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但有一點不同:
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when she graduated five years ago,
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五年前她畢業的時候,
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it was with a whopping debt.
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背負了龐大的債務。
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Students like Kate have to take on a loan
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像凱特這樣的學生,必須貸款,
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because the cost of higher education has become unaffordable
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因為高等教育的學費飆漲到
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for many if not most American families.
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大部分的美國家庭都負擔不起。
01:56
But so what?
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那又怎樣?
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Getting into debt to buy an expensive education
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如果教育增加的收入,
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is not all bad if you could pay it off
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能夠償還昂貴教育欠下的債務
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with the increased income that you earned from it.
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也不錯啊!
02:07
But that's where the rubber meets the road.
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但出社會後,才見真章。
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Even a college grad earned 10 percent more in 2001
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2001年的大學畢業生,
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than she did in 2013.
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竟然比 2013 的大學畢業生 收入多了一成。
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So ...
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所以...
02:21
tuition costs up,
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學費上漲、
02:23
public funding down,
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公共預算下降、
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family incomes diminished,
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家庭收入減低、
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personal incomes weak.
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個人收入變少。
02:30
Is it any wonder that more than a quarter of those who must
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有沒有人想過為什麼有 超過四分之一的學生,
02:34
cannot make their student loan payments?
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無力償還他們的助學貸款?
02:38
The worst of times can be the best of times,
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最壞的時機, 也許就是最好的轉機,
02:41
because certain truths flash up in ways that you can't ignore.
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我們必須面對顯而易見的事實。
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I want to speak of three of them today.
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我今天要舉出三件事。
02:49
1.2 trillion dollars of debts for diplomas
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第一:畢業文憑的 1.2 兆美金債務
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make it abundantly obvious
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很明顯地告訴了大家,
02:55
that higher education is a consumer product you can buy.
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高等教育是一種消費商品。
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All of us talk about education just as the economists do now,
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我們現在談論教育的方法, 更像經濟學家,
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as an investment that you make to improve the human stock
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把訓練學生就業, 改善人力儲備,
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by training them for work.
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視為一種投資。
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As an investment you make to sort and classify people
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把學生分門別類,視為一種投資,
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so that employers can hire them more easily.
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好讓雇主可以更容易地聘僱他們。
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The U.S. News & World Report ranks colleges
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美國新聞和各國媒體, 給學校的排名,
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just as the consumer report rates washing machines.
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就像在消費者報導裡面, 評論哪個洗衣機更好一樣。
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The language is peppered with barbarisms.
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報告裡充斥著野蠻的用詞,
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Teachers are called "service providers,"
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老師是“服務業”,
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students are called "consumers."
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學生被稱為“消費者“,
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Sociology and Shakespeare and soccer and science,
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社會學、莎士比亞文學、 足球、科學
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all of these are "content."
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這些都變成了”內容“。
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Student debt is profitable.
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助學貸款的利益豐厚,
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Only not on you.
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但利益不歸於學生。
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Your debt fattens the profit of the student loan industry.
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學生的債務養肥了學貸產業。
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The two 800-pound gorillas of which --
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兩個龐大的貸款公司大猩猩
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Sallie Mae and Navient --
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— Sallie Mae 和 Navient 貸款公司——
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posted last year a combined profit of 1.2 billion dollars.
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去年的整體獲利高達 12 億美金。
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And just like home mortgages,
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跟房貸一樣,
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student loans can be bundled and packaged and sliced and diced,
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學生貸款可以被包裝、 分割成衍生性金融產品
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and sold on Wall Street.
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在華爾街販賣。
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And colleges and universities
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學院跟大學
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that invest in these securitized loans
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在這些抵押貸款證劵化的業務上
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profit twice.
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扒了學生兩層皮。
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Once from your tuition,
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一次從你的學費,
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and then again from the interest on debt.
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之後從你的貸款利息。
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With all that money to be made,
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這些賺來的錢,
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are we surprised that some in the higher education business
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難道大家都不驚訝, 辦高等教育的這件事
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have begun to engage in false advertising,
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已經開始與不實廣告、
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in bait and switch ...
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偷樑換柱的行為扯在一起了...
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in exploiting the very ignorance that they pretend to educate?
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假裝辦教育的名義, 行壓榨無知學生之實?
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Third:
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第三:
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diplomas are a brand.
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學歷是一種名牌。
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Many years ago my teacher wrote,
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好幾年前我的老師曾經寫道,
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"When students are treated as consumers,
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“當學生被當作消費者,
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they're made prisoners of addiction and envy."
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他們便成為妒意與癮頭的囚徒"。
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Just as consumers can be sold and resold upgraded versions of an iPhone,
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就像消費者一直購買升級 不同版本的 iPhone 手機一樣,
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so also people can be sold more and more education.
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學生也得購買越來越多的教育商品。
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College is the new high school,
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我們已經聽過,
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we already say that.
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“專科學校變成了高中”的說法。
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But why stop there?
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何不變本加厲?
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People can be upsold on certifications and recertifications,
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我們可以不斷推銷各種證書、 認證再認證、
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master's degrees, doctoral degrees.
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碩士學位、博士學位。
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Higher education is also marketed as a status object.
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高等教育也被視為 一種身分的表徵。
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Buy a degree,
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買個學歷,
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much like you do a Lexus of a Louis Vuitton bag,
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就像你買 Lexus,LV 包一樣,
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to distinguish yourself from others.
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可以彰顯你的與眾不同,
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So you can be the object of envy of others.
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讓你成為大家忌妒的對象。
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Diplomas are a brand.
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文憑變成了一種名牌。
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But these truths are often times hidden by a very noisy sales pitch.
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但這些真相, 被各種喧鬧的銷售話術所掩蓋,
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There is not a day that goes by
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幾乎每一天
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without some policy guy on television telling us,
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你都能聽到電視上的名嘴說,
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"A college degree is absolutely essential
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“大學學歷是不可或缺的,
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to get on that up escalator to a middle-class life."
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有了它你才能晉升到 中產階級的生活"
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And the usual evidence offered is the college premium:
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他們舉出的數據通常是 「大學溢酬」:
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a college grad who makes on average 56 percent more than a high school grad.
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大學畢業生平均賺的錢 比高中生高56%的那種大學畢業生。
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Let's look at that number more carefully,
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讓我們仔細檢視一下這些數據,
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because on the face of it,
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表面上,
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it seems to belie the stories we all hear
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似乎不同於我們一般聽說的
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about college grads working as baristas and cashiers.
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大學畢業生去賣咖啡和結帳的事實。
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Of 100 people who enroll in any form of post-secondary education,
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在一百個進入專科大學的學生裡,
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45 do not complete it in a timely fashion,
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有 45 位無法在正常時間內完成學業,
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for a number of reasons, including financial.
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原因很多,包括財務。
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Of the 55 that do graduate,
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55 位的畢業生裡,
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two will remain unemployed,
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2 個會一直沒有工作,
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and another 18 are underemployed.
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18 個在打工。
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So, college grads earn more than high school grads,
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是的,大學畢業生賺的比高中畢業生多,
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but does it pay for the exorbitant tuition
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但這些所得能夠補足昂貴的學費,
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and the lost wages while at college?
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和在學時損失的工資嗎?
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Now even economists admit
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就連經濟學家都承認,
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going to college pays off for only those who complete it.
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專科和大學是值得的: 前提是你必須畢業。
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But that's only because high school wages have been cut to the bone,
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而且主要理由是高中畢業生
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for decades now.
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過去幾10年來的薪資 被砍到見骨了。
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For decades,
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這幾10年來,
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workers with a high school degree
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高中畢業生,
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have been denied a fair share of what they have produced.
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他們的付出沒有得到相對的報酬,
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And had they received as they should have,
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也因為他們沒有得到相對應的報酬,
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then going to college would have been a bad investment for many.
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所以跑去上大學,但對很多人來說, 上大學根本不是一個很好的投資。
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College premium?
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「大學溢酬」嗎? (專科大學畢業生與他人的薪資所得差距)
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I think it's a high school discount.
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在我看來,那只是從高中生 那邊奪來的收入。
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Two out of three people who enroll are not going to find an adequate job.
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三分之二的專科大學生 不會找到適當的工作,
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And the future, for them, doesn't look particularly promising --
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未來對他們來說,似乎也不樂觀——
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in fact, it's downright bleak.
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實際上,前途黯淡,
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And it is they who are going to suffer
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這三分之二的人
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the most punishing forms of student debt.
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他們所背負的學貸是最殘忍的。
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And it is they,
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這三分之二的人,
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curiously and sadly,
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意外而悲哀地,
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who are marketed most loudly about this college premium thing.
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最容易被「大學溢酬」這個概念吸引。
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That's not just cynical marketing,
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這種推銷手法不僅冷酷,
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that's cruel.
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而且無情。
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So what do we do?
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所以,我們該怎麼做?
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What if students and parents treated higher education as a consumer product?
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要是每個學生及家長都把高等教育 視為一種消費產品,那又如何?
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Everybody else seems to.
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這彷彿是不可爭的事實。
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Then, like any other consumer product,
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那麼,不如像其他消費產品一樣,
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you would demand to know what you're paying for.
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你會想要知道你到底買了甚麼東西。
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When you buy medicines,
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當你去買藥的時候,
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you get a list of side effects.
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你能看到會有什麼副作用。
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When you buy a higher educational product,
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當你購買高等教育產品時,
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you should have a warning label
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也應該有個警告標示,
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that allows consumers to choose,
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讓消費者在資訊透明下,
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make informed choices.
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可以做出明智的選擇。
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When you buy a car,
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當你購買一輛車,
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it tells you how many miles per gallon to expect.
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它會告訴你一加侖 大概可以跑幾英哩。
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Who knows what to expect
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像是主修“加拿大學”,
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from a degree say, in Canadian Studies.
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的預期薪資是怎樣的。
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There is such a thing, by the way.
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這可不是我信口胡謅的。
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What if there was an app for that?
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要是有一個 APP 程式呢?
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One that linked up the cost of a major to the expected income.
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一個可以把主修科目 與未來收入連結的程式。
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Let's call it Income-Based Tuition or IBT.
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我們先叫它做 "以未來收入為基礎的學費"或"IBT"。
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One of you make this.
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你們其中一個人要做...
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
08:57
Discover your reality.
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挖掘真相。
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
09:01
There are three advantages,
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它有三個優點,
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three benefits to Income-Based Tuition.
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IBT 有三個優點。
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Any user can figure out
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任何人都可以找出
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how much money he or she will make from a given college and major.
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主修科目與未來收入的相關性。
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Such informed users
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這樣的使用者就不會掉入
09:14
are unlikely to fall victim to the huckster's ploy,
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銷售人員的花言巧語
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to the sales pitch.
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與銷售手段。
09:19
But also to choose wisely.
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可以更明智地選擇。
09:21
Why would anybody pay more for college
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應該不會有人為了
09:24
than let's say, 15 percent of the additional income they earn?
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增加15%的收入而進專科大學吧?
09:29
There's a second benefit to Income-Based Tuition.
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IBT 第二個優點:
09:31
By tying the cost to the income,
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一旦把學費和未來收入一起評估,
09:34
college administrators would be forced to manage costs better,
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管理大學的主事者, 就會被迫把成本管理地更好,
09:39
to find innovative ways to do so.
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找到更有創意的方式來辦教育。
09:41
For instance,
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舉例,
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all of you students here pay roughly the same tuition for every major.
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這裡全部的學生,不管主修哪一科, 都支付一樣的學費。
09:47
That is manifestly unfair, and should change.
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這相當不公平,所以要改變。
09:52
An engineering student uses more resources
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工程系學生使用的設備、
09:56
and facilities and labs and faculty
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實驗室、教職員的資源肯定比
09:58
than a philosophy student.
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哲學系學生多。
10:01
But the philosophy student, as a consequence,
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但最後好像是哲學系學生在補貼
10:03
is subsidizing the engineering student.
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工程系學生學費一樣。
10:06
Who then, by the way, goes on and earns more money.
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但後者的收入是比較好的。
10:09
Why should two people buy the same product,
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為什麼兩個人購買了相同的產品、
10:12
pay the same,
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支付同樣的費用、
10:13
but one person receive half or a third of the service.
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但其中一個人卻只收到 一半或三分之一的服務。
10:18
In fact, college grads, some majors,
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事實上,大學畢業生, 有一些主修科目,
10:22
pay 25 percent of their income servicing their student debt,
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要多支付 25% 的收入 給他們的債權人,
10:26
while others pay five percent.
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而其他主修科目要支付 5% 。
10:29
That kind if inequity would end when majors are priced more correctly.
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當這修主修科目價格修正後, 這種不平等現象才會終結。
10:35
Now of course, all this data --
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當然,有了這些數據
10:37
and one of you is going to do this, right?
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你們其中一個人要去做,好嗎?
10:39
All this data has to be well designed,
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這些數據要好好地設計,
10:41
maybe audited by public accounting firms
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可能需要公立的會記單位 來審計監督,
10:43
to avoid statistical lies.
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避免統計騙局。
10:45
We know about statistics, right?
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我們都知道那是怎麼回事吧?
10:48
But be that as it may,
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但暫且不談。
10:50
the third and biggest benefit of Income-Based Tuition,
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第三個 BIT 的優點:
10:54
is it would free Americans from the fear and the fact of financial ruin
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它會把美國人從購買了不良商品
10:59
because they bought a defective product.
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造成的財務問題中解救出來。
11:02
Perhaps, in time,
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也許,有一天,
11:05
young and old Americans may rediscover,
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老一輩跟年輕一輩的 美國人會再度發現,
11:07
as the gentleman said earlier,
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如同之前那位先生說的,
11:09
their curiosity, their love of learning --
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再度找回他們的好奇心、 對學習的熱愛--
11:11
begin to study what they love,
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念他們喜歡念的、
11:13
love what they study,
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讀他們喜歡讀的...
11:14
follow their passion ...
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追隨他們的熱情,
11:16
getting stimulated by their intelligence,
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被他們自己的天份所激勵,
11:19
follow paths of inquiry that they really want to.
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挖掘自己想問的問題。
11:22
After all, it was Eric and Kevin,
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別忘了,這是艾利克跟凱文,
11:27
two years ago,
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兩年前,
11:29
just exactly these kinds of young men,
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懷抱著現在年輕人一樣的夢想,
11:32
who prompted me and worked with me,
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來找我幫忙、一起工作,
11:35
and still do,
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到現在仍堅持著
11:36
in the study of indebted students in America.
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研究如何讓美國學生擺脫債務。
11:41
Thank you for your attention.
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感謝各位的聆聽。
11:42
(Applause)
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