How college loans exploit students for profit | Sajay Samuel

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Today 40 million Americans are indebted for their passage to the new economy.
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Too poor to pay their way through college,
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they now owe lenders more than one trillion US dollars.
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They do find what jobs they can get
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to pay off a debt that is secured on their person.
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In America,
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even a bankrupt gambler gets a second chance.
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But it is nearly impossible
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for an American to get discharged their student loan debts.
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Once upon a time in America,
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going to college did not mean graduating with debt.
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My friend Paul's father graduated from Colorado State University
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on the GI Bill.
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For his generation,
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higher education was free or almost free,
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because it was thought of as a public good.
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Not anymore.
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When Paul also graduated from Colorado State University,
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he paid for his English degree by working part-time.
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30 years ago,
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higher education tuition was affordable, reasonable,
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and what debts you accumulated, you paid off by graduation date.
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Not anymore.
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Paul's daughter followed in his footsteps,
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but with one difference:
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when she graduated five years ago,
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it was with a whopping debt.
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Students like Kate have to take on a loan
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because the cost of higher education has become unaffordable
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for many if not most American families.
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But so what?
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Getting into debt to buy an expensive education
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is not all bad if you could pay it off
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with the increased income that you earned from it.
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But that's where the rubber meets the road.
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Even a college grad earned 10 percent more in 2001
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than she did in 2013.
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So ...
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tuition costs up,
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public funding down,
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family incomes diminished,
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personal incomes weak.
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Is it any wonder that more than a quarter of those who must
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cannot make their student loan payments?
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The worst of times can be the best of times,
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because certain truths flash up in ways that you can't ignore.
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I want to speak of three of them today.
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1.2 trillion dollars of debts for diplomas
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make it abundantly obvious
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that higher education is a consumer product you can buy.
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All of us talk about education just as the economists do now,
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as an investment that you make to improve the human stock
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by training them for work.
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As an investment you make to sort and classify people
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so that employers can hire them more easily.
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The U.S. News & World Report ranks colleges
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just as the consumer report rates washing machines.
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The language is peppered with barbarisms.
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Teachers are called "service providers,"
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students are called "consumers."
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Sociology and Shakespeare and soccer and science,
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all of these are "content."
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Student debt is profitable.
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Only not on you.
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Your debt fattens the profit of the student loan industry.
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The two 800-pound gorillas of which --
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Sallie Mae and Navient --
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posted last year a combined profit of 1.2 billion dollars.
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And just like home mortgages,
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student loans can be bundled and packaged and sliced and diced,
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and sold on Wall Street.
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And colleges and universities
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that invest in these securitized loans
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profit twice.
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Once from your tuition,
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and then again from the interest on debt.
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With all that money to be made,
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are we surprised that some in the higher education business
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have begun to engage in false advertising,
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in bait and switch ...
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in exploiting the very ignorance that they pretend to educate?
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Third:
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diplomas are a brand.
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Many years ago my teacher wrote,
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"When students are treated as consumers,
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they're made prisoners of addiction and envy."
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Just as consumers can be sold and resold upgraded versions of an iPhone,
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so also people can be sold more and more education.
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College is the new high school,
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we already say that.
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But why stop there?
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People can be upsold on certifications and recertifications,
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master's degrees, doctoral degrees.
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Higher education is also marketed as a status object.
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Buy a degree,
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much like you do a Lexus of a Louis Vuitton bag,
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to distinguish yourself from others.
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So you can be the object of envy of others.
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Diplomas are a brand.
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But these truths are often times hidden by a very noisy sales pitch.
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There is not a day that goes by
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without some policy guy on television telling us,
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"A college degree is absolutely essential
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to get on that up escalator to a middle-class life."
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And the usual evidence offered is the college premium:
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a college grad who makes on average 56 percent more than a high school grad.
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Let's look at that number more carefully,
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because on the face of it,
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it seems to belie the stories we all hear
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about college grads working as baristas and cashiers.
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Of 100 people who enroll in any form of post-secondary education,
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45 do not complete it in a timely fashion,
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for a number of reasons, including financial.
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Of the 55 that do graduate,
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two will remain unemployed,
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and another 18 are underemployed.
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So, college grads earn more than high school grads,
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but does it pay for the exorbitant tuition
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and the lost wages while at college?
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Now even economists admit
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going to college pays off for only those who complete it.
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But that's only because high school wages have been cut to the bone,
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for decades now.
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For decades,
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workers with a high school degree
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have been denied a fair share of what they have produced.
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And had they received as they should have,
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then going to college would have been a bad investment for many.
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College premium?
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I think it's a high school discount.
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Two out of three people who enroll are not going to find an adequate job.
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And the future, for them, doesn't look particularly promising --
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in fact, it's downright bleak.
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And it is they who are going to suffer
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the most punishing forms of student debt.
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And it is they,
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curiously and sadly,
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who are marketed most loudly about this college premium thing.
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That's not just cynical marketing,
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that's cruel.
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So what do we do?
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What if students and parents treated higher education as a consumer product?
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Everybody else seems to.
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Then, like any other consumer product,
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you would demand to know what you're paying for.
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When you buy medicines,
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you get a list of side effects.
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When you buy a higher educational product,
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you should have a warning label
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that allows consumers to choose,
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make informed choices.
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When you buy a car,
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it tells you how many miles per gallon to expect.
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Who knows what to expect
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from a degree say, in Canadian Studies.
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There is such a thing, by the way.
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What if there was an app for that?
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One that linked up the cost of a major to the expected income.
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Let's call it Income-Based Tuition or IBT.
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One of you make this.
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(Laughter)
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Discover your reality.
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(Laughter)
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There are three advantages,
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three benefits to Income-Based Tuition.
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Any user can figure out
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how much money he or she will make from a given college and major.
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Such informed users
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are unlikely to fall victim to the huckster's ploy,
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to the sales pitch.
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But also to choose wisely.
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Why would anybody pay more for college
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than let's say, 15 percent of the additional income they earn?
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There's a second benefit to Income-Based Tuition.
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By tying the cost to the income,
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college administrators would be forced to manage costs better,
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to find innovative ways to do so.
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For instance,
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all of you students here pay roughly the same tuition for every major.
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That is manifestly unfair, and should change.
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An engineering student uses more resources
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and facilities and labs and faculty
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than a philosophy student.
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But the philosophy student, as a consequence,
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is subsidizing the engineering student.
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Who then, by the way, goes on and earns more money.
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Why should two people buy the same product,
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pay the same,
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but one person receive half or a third of the service.
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In fact, college grads, some majors,
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pay 25 percent of their income servicing their student debt,
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while others pay five percent.
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That kind if inequity would end when majors are priced more correctly.
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Now of course, all this data --
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and one of you is going to do this, right?
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All this data has to be well designed,
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maybe audited by public accounting firms
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to avoid statistical lies.
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We know about statistics, right?
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But be that as it may,
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the third and biggest benefit of Income-Based Tuition,
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is it would free Americans from the fear and the fact of financial ruin
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because they bought a defective product.
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Perhaps, in time,
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young and old Americans may rediscover,
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as the gentleman said earlier,
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their curiosity, their love of learning --
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begin to study what they love,
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love what they study,
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follow their passion ...
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getting stimulated by their intelligence,
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follow paths of inquiry that they really want to.
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After all, it was Eric and Kevin,
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two years ago,
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just exactly these kinds of young men,
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who prompted me and worked with me,
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and still do,
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in the study of indebted students in America.
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Thank you for your attention.
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(Applause)
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