Laws that choke creativity | Larry Lessig

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I want to talk to you a little bit about user-generated content.
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我今天要谈谈网民们自己创造的资源
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I'm going to tell you three stories on the way to one argument
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我要讲三个故事来阐明一个论点
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that's going to tell you a little bit
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它会大概告诉你们
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about how we open user-generated content up for business.
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如何在用户生成内容中发掘商机
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So, here's the first story.
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那么,现在是第一个故事。
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1906. This man, John Philip Sousa, traveled to this place,
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一九零六年。这个人,作曲家约翰·菲利普·苏萨,来到这个地方,
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the United States Capitol, to talk about this technology,
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美国国会大厦,为了一项新技术,
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what he called the, quote, "talking machines."
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一个他称为“说话机器” 的东西。
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Sousa was not a fan of the talking machines.
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苏萨可不是说话机器爱好者。
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This is what he had to say.
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以下是他的看法。
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"These talking machines are going to ruin artistic development
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“这些说话机器将会毁掉音乐艺术
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of music in this country.
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在这个国家的任何发展前途。
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When I was a boy, in front of every house in the summer evenings,
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当我还是个孩子时,每当夏夜,每间房子前面
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you would find young people together
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就会看到年轻人在一起
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singing the songs of the day, or the old songs.
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唱着流行歌曲,或者是老歌。
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Today, you hear these infernal machines going night and day.
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而今一天到晚听见的都是这些恶魔似的机器。
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We will not have a vocal chord left," Sousa said.
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我们全部都会失去声带,”苏萨说。
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"The vocal chords will be eliminated by a process of evolution
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我们的声带会在进化的过程中被淘汰
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as was the tail of man when he came from the ape."
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就像我们从猿进化为人时丢掉尾巴一样
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Now, this is the picture I want you to focus on.
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现在,我要你们仔细看看这幅图
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This is a picture of culture.
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这是一幅我们文化的写照
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We could describe it using modern computer terminology
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我们可以用现代电脑术语来形容它
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as a kind of read-write culture.
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称其为一种“读写文化”。
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It's a culture where people participate in the creation
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这种文化让人们参与它的创造
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and the re-creation of their culture. In that sense, it's read-write.
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和再创造。是双向的,所以叫“读写文化”
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Sousa's fear was that we would lose that capacity
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苏萨就是害怕我们会失去创造力
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because of these, quote, "infernal machines." They would take it away.
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因为有了那些“说话机器”, 它们会把创造力剥夺
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And in its place, we'd have the opposite of read-write culture,
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取而代之的是与“读写文化”相反的,
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what we could call read-only culture.
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一个种“只读”的文化
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Culture where creativity was consumed
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一个消费着创造力
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but the consumer is not a creator.
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可消费者不是生产者的文化。
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A culture which is top-down, owned,
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一个自上而下的,被私人占有的文化
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where the vocal chords of the millions have been lost.
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人们遗失了声带,万马齐喑的文化
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Now, as you look back at the twentieth century,
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看看过去的20世纪
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at least in what we think of as the, quote, "developed world" --
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至少在我们所谓的“发达国家”里
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hard not to conclude that Sousa was right.
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很难否认苏萨是对的
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Never before in the history of human culture
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人类文化史上前所未见的
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had it been as professionalized, never before as concentrated.
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专业化与集中化
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Never before has creativity of the millions
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人民大众的创造力
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been as effectively displaced,
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从来没有那么有效地被丢在一边
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and displaced because of these, quote, "infernal machines."
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而被丢掉的原因就是这些“说话的机器”
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The twentieth century was that century
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在20世纪里
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where, at least for those places we know the best,
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至少,对于那些我们最清楚的地方
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culture moved from this read-write to read-only existence.
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文化已经从“读写”状态进入了可怜的“只读”形式
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So, second. Land is a kind of property --
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第二个故事。土地是一种产业
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it is property. It's protected by law.
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一种被法律保护的产业
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As Lord Blackstone described it, land is protected by trespass law,
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正如Blackstone勋爵所说,法律禁止非法侵入土地
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for most of the history of trespass law,
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而在反侵入土地法的历史上,大多数时候
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by presuming it protects the land all the way down below
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我们认为它保护地表以下无限深
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and to an indefinite extent upward.
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和上面无限高的范围
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Now, that was a pretty good system
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那是一个相当好的系统
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for most of the history of the regulation of land,
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在人类管理土地的历史上一直适用
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until this technology came along, and people began to wonder,
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直到一种科技的到来,使大家开始想
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were these instruments trespassers
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这些东西到底是不是非法侵犯者
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as they flew over land without clearing the rights
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它们没得到批准就飞越私人土地
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of the farms below as they traveled across the country?
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飞越土地上的农场
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Well, in 1945, Supreme Court got a chance to address that question.
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1945年,最高法院有机会处理这个问题
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Two farmers, Thomas Lee and Tinie Causby, who raised chickens,
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两个养鸡的农夫,Thomas Lee和Tinie Cosby
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had a significant complaint because of these technologies.
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为了这些科技发明,而向有关当局投诉了。
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The complaint was that their
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他们投诉说
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chickens followed the pattern of the airplanes
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他们养的鸡老是跟着飞机飞的方向跑
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and flew themselves into the walls of the barn
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当飞机飞过土地时
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when the airplanes flew over the land.
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鸡群就一头栽在谷仓的墙上
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And so they appealed to Lord Blackstone
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于是他们就向Blackstone勋爵请愿
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to say these airplanes were trespassing.
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告那些飞机非法侵入
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Since time immemorial, the law had said,
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古往今来法律都规定
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you can't fly over the land without permission of the landowner,
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你不能在未经许可的情况下过境
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so this flight must stop.
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所以,这样的飞行要立刻停止
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Well, the Supreme Court considered this 100-years tradition
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最高法院考虑了这个百年之久的法律传统
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and said, in an opinion written by Justice Douglas,
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然后在由Douglass法官撰写的法院意见中说
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that the Causbys must lose.
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原告败诉了
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The Supreme Court said the doctrine protecting land
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最高法院说保护土地
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all the way to the sky has no place in the modern world,
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到地表上面无穷高的原则,在现代世界并不适用
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otherwise every transcontinental flight would
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否则每一班洲际航线
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subject the operator to countless trespass suits.
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都得让飞行员吃到数不清的非法侵入官司
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Common sense, a rare idea in the law, but here it was. Common sense --
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常识,法律界里多稀罕的东西啊,可是这里就有常识
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(Laughter) --
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(笑)
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Revolts at the idea. Common sense.
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常识压倒了传统观念
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Finally. Before the Internet, the last great terror
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最后。在互联网出现之前
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to rain down on the content industry
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内容产业蒙受的最大灾难
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was a terror created by this technology. Broadcasting:
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是广播技术造成的
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a new way to spread content,
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一种全新的传播内容的方式
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and therefore a new battle over the control
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于是乎就引来了一场的新的
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of the businesses that would spread content.
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传播内容商机的争夺战
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Now, at that time, the entity,
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当时那个
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the legal cartel, that controlled the performance rights
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控制着大多数音乐播放权的
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for most of the music that would be broadcast
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合乎法律的垄断组织
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using these technologies was ASCAP.
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也是广播技术的使用者-是美国作曲家,作者与出版商协会(ASCAP)联合体
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They had an exclusive license on the most popular content,
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他们对大多数流行内容有独家掌控权
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and they exercised it in a way that tried to demonstrate
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而且他们也处处极力显示
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to the broadcasters who really was in charge.
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让广播公司明白谁才是老板
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So, between 1931 and 1939, they raised rates by some 448 percent,
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于是1931年到1939年间他们把版权费拉高了448%
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until the broadcasters finally got together
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直到广播公司终于联合起来
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and said, okay, enough of this.
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说好了,我们受够了
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And in 1939, a lawyer, Sydney Kaye, started something
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1939年,Sydney Kaye,一位律师,创建了
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called Broadcast Music Inc. We know it as BMI.
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音乐广播公司,就是大名鼎鼎的BMI
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And BMI was much more democratic in the art
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BMI对待艺术的态度更加民主
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that it would include within its repertoire,
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在曲库里第一次收录了
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including African American music for the first time in the repertoire.
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第一次收录了非洲裔美国人的音乐
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But most important was that BMI took public domain works
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可是最终要的是BMI把流行领域的作品
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and made arrangements of them, which they gave away for free
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改编之后免费
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to their subscribers. So that in 1940,
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献给订购客户。这样以来,到了1940年
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when ASCAP threatened to double their rates,
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当垄断的ASCAP扬言要把版费翻番
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the majority of broadcasters switched to BMI.
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大多数广播公司转投了BMI
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Now, ASCAP said they didn't care.
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当时ASCAP说没什么大不了的
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The people will revolt, they predicted, because the very best music
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他们认为广播听众最后会不乐意的,因为最好的音乐
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was no longer available, because they had shifted
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不再播放了,因为他们被迫得听
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to the second best public domain provided by BMI.
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BMI改编后的次品
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Well, they didn't revolt, and in 1941, ASCAP cracked.
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当然,听众最终没什么意见。而1941年,ASCAP就认输了
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And the important point to recognize
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这里重要的是要认识到
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is that even though these broadcasters
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尽管广播公司们
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were broadcasting something you would call second best,
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没有原汁原味的音乐,只能退而求其次
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that competition was enough to break, at that time,
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当时却已经足够在竞争中打破
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this legal cartel over access to music.
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法定联合体对音乐使用权的垄断
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Okay. Three stories. Here's the argument.
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三个故事讲完,现在是论点
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In my view, the most significant thing to recognize
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我认为这其中最显著的一点
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about what this Internet is doing
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牵涉到互联网的作用
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is its opportunity to revive the read-write culture
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就是它提供了复苏
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that Sousa romanticized.
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苏萨曾经大加渲染的”读写“文化的良机
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Digital technology is the opportunity
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数字技术是
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for the revival of these vocal chords
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一个找回丢失声带的机会
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that he spoke so passionately to Congress about.
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这正是苏萨在国会前慷慨陈词时心中想要的
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User-generated content, spreading in businesses
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网络用户生成内容, 在商业中传播
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in extraordinarily valuable ways like these,
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通过像这样极为宝贵的方式
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celebrating amateur culture.
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传扬业余爱好者文化
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By which I don't mean amateurish culture,
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我所指的不是质量上业余的文化
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I mean culture where people produce
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我说的是一种人们
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for the love of what they're doing and not for the money.
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为爱好而不是为钱所创造的文化
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I mean the culture that your kids are producing all the time.
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就是你们的孩子整天都在创造的文化
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For when you think of what Sousa romanticized
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当你们想想苏萨说到
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in the young people together, singing the songs of the day,
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曾经年轻人聚在一起唱着流行歌曲
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of the old songs, you should recognize
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或是老歌,你应该能发现苏萨所为之倾倒的
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what your kids are doing right now.
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其实与你们孩子正做的事情别无二致:
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Taking the songs of the day and the old songs
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把流行歌曲和以前的歌放在一块儿
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and remixing them to make them something different.
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混搭一下变成不一样的东西
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It's how they understand access to this culture.
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这就是他们对如何投身这一文化的理解
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So, let's have some very few examples
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我们且看几个例子
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to get a sense of what I'm talking about here.
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好理解我所说的这些
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Here's something called Anime Music Video, first example,
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这是动漫MTV,第一个例子
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taking anime captured from television
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从电视里截下来的动漫片段
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re-edited to music tracks.
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被剪辑与音乐对应
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(Music)
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This one you should be -- confidence. Jesus survives. Don't worry.
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这个你应该--有信心。耶稣会活下来的。别担心
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(Music)
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(♫音乐是Gloria Gaynor的《我会活下来》)
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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And this is the best.
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这个是最棒的
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(Music)
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(♫音乐是Lionel Ritchie和Diana Ross的名曲《无尽的爱》)
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My love ...
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我的爱人...
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There's only you in my life ...
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此生只有你...
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The only thing that's bright ...
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唯一的光明
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My first love ...
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我的初恋
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You're every breath that I take ...
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你是我每口呼吸
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You're every step I make ...
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每个足迹
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And I ....
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而我
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I want to share all my love with you ...
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与你共享爱情
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No one else will do ...
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谁也无法夺去
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And your eyes ...
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你的眼睛
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They tell me how much you care ...
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流露着关爱的心
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(Music)
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So, this is remix, right?
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这个就是混搭
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(Applause)
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(鼓掌)
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And it's important to emphasize that what this is not
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我们要强调的是这个不是什么--
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is not what we call, quote, "piracy."
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这个不是我们所说的”盗版“
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I'm not talking about nor justifying
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我既不是在说,更谈不上去为之辩护
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people taking other people's content in wholesale
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那种把别人的东西全部拿来
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and distributing it without the permission of the copyright owner.
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未经许可就到处散播的行为
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I'm talking about people taking and recreating
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我讲的是人们用
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using other people's content, using digital technologies
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别人创造的内容进行娱乐,通过数码技术处理
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to say things differently.
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表达不一样的内涵
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Now, the importance of this
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这里重要的
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is not the technique that you've seen here.
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不是你所看到的制作技巧
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Because, of course, every technique that you've seen here
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因为你们看到的每一个处理
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is something that television and film producers
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电视电影人们
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have been able to do for the last 50 years.
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50年前就能做了
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The importance is that that technique has been democratized.
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重要的是这些技术已经在社会上普及了
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It is now anybody with access to a $1,500 computer
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现在任何一个拥有一台电脑的人
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who can take sounds and images from the culture around us
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都可以我们身边的文化中采集声象
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and use it to say things differently.
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用以表情达意
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These tools of creativity have become tools of speech.
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这些创造力的工具已经成为了表达工具
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It is a literacy for this generation. This is how our kids speak.
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是这一代人的语言,不会等同文盲
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It is how our kids think. It is what your kids are
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是他们的思维方式,是他们的生存状态
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as they increasingly understand digital technologies
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他们越来越了解数字技术
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and their relationship to themselves.
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以及它与他们自身的关系
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Now, in response to this new use of culture using digital technologies,
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但是,在这个依赖数字技术成长的新文化的问题上
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the law has not greeted this Sousa revival
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法律并没有以很好的常识
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with very much common sense.
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接纳苏萨的提议
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Instead, the architecture of copyright law
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反而,版权法的建构
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and the architecture of digital technologies,
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和数码技术的建构
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as they interact, have produced the presumption
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在互相切磋之后,产生了一个结论:
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that these activities are illegal.
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这些 活动是非法的
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Because if copyright law at its core regulates something called copies,
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因为如果版权法管制着翻版的行为
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then in the digital world the one fact we can't escape
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在数码世界中我们无可回避的事实就是
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is that every single use of culture produces a copy.
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文化的每一次使用都产生一个副本
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Every single use therefore requires permission;
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每一次重新使用就都需要征得同意
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without permission, you are a trespasser.
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未经许可你就是违法侵入者
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You're a trespasser with about as much sense
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你和这些家伙一样
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as these people were trespassers.
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都是违法侵入者
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Common sense here, though, has not yet revolted
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可是我们的常识尚未开始
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in response to this response that the law has offered
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反抗法律的这一僵死的态度
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to these forms of creativity.
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为网民创造力的牺牲鸣不平
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Instead, what we've seen
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而我们看到的
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is something much worse than a revolt.
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是比反抗更危险的东西:
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There's a growing extremism that comes from both sides
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冲突双方都陷入了极端主义的怪圈
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in this debate, in response to this conflict
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在这次争端中
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between the law and the use of these technologies.
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法律和新兴技术互不相让
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One side builds new technologies, such as one recently announced
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一方产生像最近公布的那种技术
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that will enable them
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能自动
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to automatically take down from sites like YouTube
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从Youtube那样的网站下载
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any content that has any copyrighted content in it,
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任何流媒体文件,其中一定包含着某些版权内容
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whether or not there's a judgment of fair use
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--而对任何适用于这些内容的
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that might be applied to the use of that content.
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针对滥用的评判标准不管不顾
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And on the other side, among our kids,
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从另一方面,在我们的孩子们中间
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there's a growing copyright abolitionism,
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蔓延着”版权废奴主义”的呼声
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a generation that rejects the very notion
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这样的一代人,坚决摒弃
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of what copyright is supposed to do, rejects copyright
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版权法设立的动机初衷,摒弃版权封闭
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and believes that the law is nothing more than an ass
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认为版权法只是个不合时宜的愚蠢障碍
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to be ignored and to be fought at every opportunity possible.
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有机会要完全忽视或公然推倒
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The extremism on one side begets extremism on the other,
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一方的极端主义会使另一方效仿
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a fact we should have learned many, many times over,
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这是我们早该认清不知道多少次的事实
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and both extremes in this debate are just wrong.
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这一冲突中的两个极端都是错误的
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Now, the balance that I try to fight for,
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而我所要争取的一个平衡点--
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I, as any good liberal, try to fight for first
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我,就像任何一个称职的自由派会做的
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by looking to the government. Total mistake, right?
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两眼盯着政府去要。大错特错!对吗?
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
15:19
Looked first to the courts and the legislatures to try to get them
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要先盯着法院和立法机构,先和他们谈上
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to do something to make the system make more sense.
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做些改变让这个系统更讲道理
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It failed partly because the courts are too passive,
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这么做还是不行。原因一部分是法院的消极态度
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partly because the legislatures are corrupted,
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一部分是立法机关痼疾缠身
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by which I don't mean that there's bribery
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我的意思不是他们被银子买了
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operating to stop real change,
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得阻止任何实质性变革
15:36
but more the economy of influence that governs how Congress functions
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而是说指挥着国会日常运作的“影响力经济”在捣鬼
15:40
means that policymakers here will not understand this
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政策制定者直到事情无可救药、无可置辩
15:44
until it's too late to fix it.
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才能弄清楚是怎么一回事
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So, we need something different, we need a different kind of solution.
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所以我们要的是一种不同的解决方案
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And the solution here, in my view, is a private solution,
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而这一方案是民间的,私人的
15:54
a solution that looks to legalize what it is to be young again,
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一个尝试着去把年轻心态重新合法化的方案
15:58
and to realize the economic potential of that,
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一个从中发掘经济潜能的方案
16:00
and that's where the story of BMI becomes relevant.
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这就是值得借鉴BMI故事的当儿
16:04
Because, as BMI demonstrated, competition here
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因为正如BMI所显示出的,竞争
16:07
can achieve some form of balance. The same thing can happen now.
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可以产生某种平衡。同样的事情现在也能发生
16:12
We don't have a public domain to draw upon now,
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我们现在不能利用像广播那样的全免费公共媒介
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so instead what we need is two types of changes.
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因而我们需要的是两项改变
16:18
First, that artists and creators embrace the idea,
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首先,艺术家和创作人开始接受
16:22
choose that their work be made available more freely.
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降低价格,扩大作品覆盖面的主张
16:26
So, for example, they can say their work is available freely
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打个比方,他们可以说自己的作品
16:29
for non-commercial, this amateur-type of use,
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对于非盈利性,爱好者类的使用免费
16:31
but not freely for any commercial use.
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但是对商业使用收费
16:33
And second, we need the businesses
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第二,我们需要
16:36
that are building out this read-write culture
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基于这一“读写”文化的商业项目
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to embrace this opportunity expressly, to enable it,
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公开地把握这个机会,给它助推力
16:44
so that this ecology of free content, or freer content,
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这样为免费,或者较便宜的内容资源
16:49
can grow on a neutral platform
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提供一个中立的大生态
16:51
where they both exist simultaneously,
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它们得以共存
16:54
so that more-free can compete with less-free,
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较便宜的和较不便宜的能够竞争
16:59
and the opportunity to develop the creativity in that competition
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而在这场竞争中发挥创造力的机会
17:03
can teach one the lessons of the other.
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可以让竞争的一方学到另一方的经验
17:06
Now, I would talk about one particular such plan
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我本该说说一个像这样的具体计划
17:10
that I know something about,
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我对它有所了解
17:11
but I don't want to violate TED's first commandment of selling,
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但是不想触动TED针对推销产品的禁令
17:14
so I'm not going to talk about this at all.
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所以我就不说了
17:16
I'm instead just going to remind you of the point that BMI teaches us.
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我只是想再提醒大家BMI给我们上的一课
17:23
That artist choice is the key for new technology
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艺术家的意见对我们的新技术
17:28
having an opportunity to be open for business,
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转化为商机至关重要
17:31
and we need to build artist choice here
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我们得培养艺术家们的这种观念
17:34
if these new technologies are to have that opportunity.
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如果媒体编辑、传播的新技术想要有前景
17:37
But let me end with something I think much more important --
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不过我想用我认为更加重要的东西作结
17:40
much more important than business.
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比商机重要得多
17:42
It's the point about how this connects to our kids.
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事关我们的孩子们
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We have to recognize they're different from us. This is us, right?
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我们得承认他们跟我们很不同。这是我们,对吧?
17:50
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
17:51
We made mixed tapes; they remix music.
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我们制造混音磁带,他们直接混搭音乐
17:53
We watched TV; they make TV.
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我们看电视,他们制作电视
17:56
It is technology that has made them different,
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是科技让他们不同
18:00
and as we see what this technology can do,
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当我们看到数码科技的厉害之后
18:02
we need to recognize you can't kill
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我们感觉无法根除
18:05
the instinct the technology produces. We can only criminalize it.
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科技带来的一种新的天性;我们只能给它定罪
18:09
We can't stop our kids from using it.
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我们无法不让孩子们使用它
18:11
We can only drive it underground.
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只能把它逼到地下去
18:13
We can't make our kids passive again.
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我们不能把孩子们再变成被动的文化接受者
18:16
We can only make them, quote, "pirates." And is that good?
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我们就把他们变成“盗版用户”。这样明智吗?
18:21
We live in this weird time. It's kind of age of prohibitions,
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我们生活在一个禁令满天飞的奇怪时代
18:25
where in many areas of our life,
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在生活的许多方面
18:27
we live life constantly against the law.
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我们随时随地违反着无效、疲软的法规
18:30
Ordinary people live life against the law,
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普通人生活中惯常违法
18:32
and that's what I -- we are doing to our kids.
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我们对孩子们施加着一种影响力
18:36
They live life knowing they live it against the law.
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他们知道自己生活中有法律就是障碍
18:40
That realization is extraordinarily corrosive,
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这种想法一传十十传百
18:44
extraordinarily corrupting.
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危害特别大
18:47
And in a democracy, we ought to be able to do better.
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在一个民主社会中我们应该比这做得好
18:51
Do better, at least for them, if not for opening for business.
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我们必须改变现状,就算不谈生意的话,至少为了孩子们,
18:58
Thank you very much.
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多谢各位。
18:59
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