Alberto Cairo: There are no scraps of men

114,055 views ・ 2011-12-23

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翻译人员: Lili Liang 校对人员: Dennis Guo
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I've been in Afghanistan for 21 years.
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我在阿富汗21年了
00:17
I work for the Red Cross
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为红十字会工作
00:20
and I'm a physical therapist.
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我是一个理疗医师
00:24
My job is to make arms and legs --
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我的工作就是制作义肢 --
00:27
well it's not completely true.
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当然 不完全是这样
00:29
We do more than that.
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我们做的比这多得多
00:31
We provide the patients,
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我们帮助病患
00:33
the Afghan disabled,
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那些阿富汗的残疾人
00:35
first with the physical rehabilitation
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先恢复肢体功能
00:38
then with the social reintegration.
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然后重返社会
00:41
It's a very logical plan,
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这非常符合逻辑
00:44
but it was not always like this.
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但事情并非一直如此
00:46
For many years, we were just providing them
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常年以来 我们给他们的
00:48
with artificial limbs.
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只是义肢而已
00:51
It took quite many years
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我们花了许多年
00:53
for the program to become what it is now.
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才让这个项目取得现在的成果
00:58
Today, I would like to tell you a story,
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今天我想讲一个故事
01:01
the story of a big change,
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关于一个巨大变化的故事
01:04
and the story of the people
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以及实现这变化的人
01:06
who made this change possible.
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他们的故事
01:08
I arrived in Afghanistan
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1990年
01:10
in 1990
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我到了阿富汗
01:14
to work in a hospital
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为一家收治战争伤员的
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for war victims.
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医院工作
01:19
And then, not only for war victims,
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后来 医院不仅收治战争伤员
01:21
but it was for any kind of patient.
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还收治其他各种病患
01:24
I was also working
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我同时也在
01:26
in the orthopedic center, we call it.
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矫形中心工作
01:28
This is the place where we make the legs.
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这里就是我们制作义肢的地方
01:31
At that time
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当时
01:33
I found myself
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我发现
01:35
in a strange situation.
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自己处于一种尴尬的境地
01:37
I felt not quite ready
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我不确定
01:39
for that job.
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自己是否适合这份工作
01:41
There was so much to learn.
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要学的东西太多了
01:44
There were so many things new to me.
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我对太多事情不了解了
01:46
But it was a terrific job.
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但这是一份很棒的工作
01:48
But as soon as the fighting intensified,
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但是随着战事越来越激烈
01:50
the physical rehabilitation was suspended.
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肢体复健项目被搁置了
01:53
There were many other things to do.
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我们要忙许多其他的事情
01:55
So the orthopedic center was closed
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于是矫形中心被关闭了
01:58
because physical rehabilitation
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因为人们认为它不是
02:00
was not considered a priority.
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重中之重
02:08
It was a strange sensation.
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这是种奇怪的感觉
02:11
Anyway, you know every time I make this speech --
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每次我做这个演讲
02:14
it's not the first time -- but it's an emotion.
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这不是第一次了 但这是一种情感
02:17
It's something that comes out from the past.
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从过去就开始了
02:19
It's 21 years,
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21年了
02:21
but they are still all there.
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这种感觉还在
02:24
Anyway, in 1992,
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1992年
02:27
the Mujahideen took all Afghanistan.
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圣战者组织占领了整个阿富汗
02:30
And the orthopedic center was closed.
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矫形中心被关闭了
02:33
I was assigned to work for the homeless,
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我被分配去帮助无家可归的人
02:36
for the internally displaced people.
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和因战争流离失所的人
02:41
But one day, something happened.
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但有一天 一件事情发生了
02:45
I was coming back
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我从一个
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from a big food distribution in a mosque
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大批发放食物的清真寺回来
02:50
where tens and tens of people
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那里收容的十几个人
02:54
were squatting in terrible conditions.
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身体状况都很糟糕
02:58
I wanted to go home. I was driving.
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我当时正开着车 - 我想回家。
03:01
You know, when you want to forget,
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你知道吗,当你想要忘记
03:03
you don't want to see things,
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或不想面对一些事情的时候
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so you just want to go to your room, to lock yourself inside
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你只会想回家 把自己关在房间里
03:08
and say, "That's enough."
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说:“我受够了。”
03:12
A bomb fell not far from my car --
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一颗炸弹在距我的车不远的地方爆炸了
03:15
well, far enough, but big noise.
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虽然没炸到我 但还是传来了一声巨响
03:18
And everybody disappeared from the street.
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街上的人瞬间消失了
03:22
The cars disappeared as well.
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车辆也消失了
03:25
I ducked.
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我绻下身
03:27
And only one figure
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唯一一个
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remained in the middle of the road.
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留在路中间的
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It was a man in a wheelchair
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是一个坐着轮椅的男子
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desperately trying to move away.
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他正慌忙地想要移开原地
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Well I'm not a particularly brave person,
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我不是一个非常勇敢的人
03:39
I have to confess it,
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我承认
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but I could not just ignore him.
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但是 我不能就这么丢下他不管
03:45
So I stopped the car
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于是 我停了车
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and I went to help.
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上前去帮他
03:51
The man was without legs
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这个人没有腿
03:54
and only with one arm.
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只有一只手臂
03:57
Behind him there was a child, his son,
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他身后有一个孩子 他的儿子
04:00
red in the face
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脸蛋通红
04:02
in an effort to push the father.
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正使劲推着父亲
04:06
So I took him into a safe place.
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我把他带到一个安全的地方
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And I ask, "What are you doing out in the street
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然后我问:“你们这时候在大街上
04:13
in this situation?"
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干什么?”
04:15
"I work," he said.
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“我在工作。” 他说
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I wondered, what work?
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我觉得奇怪 做什么工作?
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And then I ask an even more stupid question:
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接着我问了一个更加愚蠢的问题:
04:23
"Why don't you have the prostheses?
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“你怎么没有义肢呢?
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Why don't you have the artificial legs?"
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怎么没有假腿呢?”
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And he said, "The Red Cross has closed."
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他说:“红十字会关门了。”
04:31
Well without thinking, I told him
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我想都没想就对他说:
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"Come tomorrow.
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“明天你过来,
04:36
We will provide you with a pair of legs."
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我们会给你一双义肢。”
04:40
The man, his name was Mahmoud,
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这名叫麦哈麦得的男子
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and the child, whose name was Rafi, left.
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和他的孩子 拉菲 便走了
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And then I said, "Oh, my God. What did I say?
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结果 我对自己说:“天啊,我说的是什么胡话?
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The center is closed,
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中心关闭了,
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no staff around.
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里面根本没有人。
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Maybe the machinery is broken.
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说不定连机器都是坏的。
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Who is going to make the legs for him?"
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谁来给他做义肢啊?”
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So I hoped that he would not come.
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我希望他不会过来
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This is the streets of Kabul
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这就是那段战火纷飞日子里
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in those days.
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喀布尔的街道
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So I said, "Well I will give him some money."
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于是我说:“那我就给他点钱。”
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And so the following day,
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第二天
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I went to the orthopedic center.
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我到了矫形中心
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And I spoke with a gatekeeper.
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我嘱咐了门卫几句
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I was ready to tell him,
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我准备告诉他:
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"Listen, if someone such-and-such comes tomorrow,
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“听着, 如果明天有一个这个模样的人过来,
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please tell him that it was a mistake.
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你就告诉他,他弄错了。
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Nothing can be done.
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我们没有办法帮助他。
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Give him some money."
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然后给他一些钱。”
05:35
But Mahmoud and his son were already there.
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但是 麦哈麦得和他的儿子已经等在那里了
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And they were not alone.
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还不止他们
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There were 15, maybe 20, people like him waiting.
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有十五到二十个人残疾人也等在那里
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And there was some staff too.
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一些工作人员也在场
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Among them there was my right-hand man,
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其中还有我的助手
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Najmuddin.
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纳吉木丁
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And the gatekeeper told me,
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门卫告诉我
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"They come everyday to see if the center will open."
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“他们每天都来看中心是否开门。”
06:00
I said, "No.
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我说:“不行。
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We have to go away. We cannot stay here."
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我们必须离开。不能留在这里。”
06:04
They were bombing -- not very close -- but you could hear the noise of the bombs.
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轰炸还在进行中 虽然不是很近 但是你仍然可以听到爆炸声
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So, "We cannot stay here, it's dangerous.
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“我们不能留在这里,太危险了。
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It's not a priority."
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保命要紧。”
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But Najmuddin told me, "Listen now, we're here."
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但纳吉木丁对我说:“听着,我们现在在这里。
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At least we can start repairing the prostheses, the broken prostheses of the people
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至少,我们可以开始修理这些人坏了的义肢,
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and maybe try to do something
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然后也许可以为麦哈麦得这样的人
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for people like Mahmoud."
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做点什么。”
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I said, "No, please. We cannot do that.
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我说:“不行,我们不能这么做。
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It's really dangerous.
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太危险了。
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We have other things to do."
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我们还有更重要的事情要忙。”
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But they insisted.
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但他们坚持这么做
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When you have 20 people
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二十个人
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in front of you, looking at you
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就这么站在你面前 看着你
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and you are the one who has to decide ...
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等着你做出决定
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So we started doing some repairs.
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于是我们开始做一些修理
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Also one of the physical therapists
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其中一个理疗医师
06:45
reported that Mahmoud
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说他们可以
06:47
could be provided with a leg,
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为麦哈麦得提供一只假腿
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but not immediately.
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但要花一些时间
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The legs were swollen
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他的腿有水肿
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and the knees were stiff,
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且膝盖僵硬
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so he needed a long preparation.
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他需要一段长时间的准备
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Believe me, I was worried
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相信我 我很担心
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because I was breaking the rules.
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因为我违反规定了
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I was doing something
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我做的事情
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that I was not supposed to do.
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不是我分内的事
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In the evening,
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晚上
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I went to speak with the bosses at the headquarters,
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我去和总部的几位上司谈话
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and I told them -- I lied --
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我对他们撒了谎
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I told them, "Listen, we are going to start
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我告诉他们:“我们准备开始
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a couple of hours per day,
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每天用几个小时
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just a few repairs."
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做一些修理工作。”
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Maybe some of them are here now.
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可能他们有几位今天就在这里
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(Laughter)
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(众人笑)
07:25
So we started.
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于是 我们开工了
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I was working, I was going everyday
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我每天都在工作
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to work for the homeless.
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帮助无家可归的人
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And Najmuddin was staying there,
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纳吉木丁在那里
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doing everything and reporting on the patients.
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忙里忙外 汇报病人的情况
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He was telling me, "Patients are coming."
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他告诉我:“病人们来了。”
07:41
We knew that many more patients
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我们知道有更多的病人
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could not come, prevented by the fighting.
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因为战争而来不了
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But people were coming.
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但是人们还是源源不断地来
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And Mahmoud was coming every day.
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麦哈麦得每天都来
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And slowly, slowly
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慢慢地
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week after week
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一周接着一周
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his legs were improving.
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他逐渐可以用义肢行走了
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The stump or cast prosthesis was made,
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义肢做好了
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and he was starting
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他开始了
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the real physical rehabilitation.
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真正的物理康复治疗
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He was coming every day,
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他每天都来
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crossing the front line.
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穿越前线而来
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A couple of times I crossed the front line
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我曾经穿越前线一两次
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in the very place where Mahmoud and his son were crossing.
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也就是麦哈麦得父子经过的地方
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I tell you, it was something so sinister
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告诉你们 看到他能够每天穿过
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that I was astonished he could do it every day.
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危机四伏的前线 我感到异常惊讶
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But finally, the great day arrived.
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终于 美好的一天到来了
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Mahmoud was going to be discharged
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麦哈麦得能够
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with his new legs.
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用他的新腿行走了
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It was April, I remember,
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我记得当时是四月
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a very beautiful day.
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一个美丽的日子
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April in Kabul is beautiful,
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喀布尔的四月异常美丽
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full of roses, full of flowers.
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玫瑰 鲜花盛开
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We could not possibly stay indoors,
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我们不想留在室内
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with all these sandbags at the windows.
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那些沙袋堆在窗边
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Very sad, dark.
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太悲凉 太昏暗了
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So we chose a small spot in the garden.
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我们这花园里找了一小块地方
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And Mahmoud put on his prostheses,
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麦哈麦得安上他的义肢
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the other patients did the same,
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其他病人也如此
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and they started practicing
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他们开始
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for the last time before being discharged.
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做康复前的最后一次练习
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Suddenly, they started fighting.
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突然间 外面突然打起了杖
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Two groups of Mujahideen started fighting.
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两股圣战组织开始交火
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We could hear in the air
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我们能够听到
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the bullets passing.
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子弹飞过的声音
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So we dashed, all of us,
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我们所有人
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towards the shelter.
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迅速向室内冲去
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Mahmoud grabbed his son, I grabbed someone else.
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麦哈麦得拉着他的儿子 我拉着另一个人
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Everybody was grabbing something.
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每个人都拉着另一个
09:24
And we ran.
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我们撒腿就跑
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You know, 50 meters can be a long distance
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你知道吗 当你完全暴露在外面的时候
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if you are totally exposed,
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五十米的距离可以显得那么长
09:30
but we managed to reach the shelter.
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但我们都找到了藏身地
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Inside, all of us panting,
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在里面 我们害怕得发抖,
09:37
I sat a moment and I heard Rafi telling his father,
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我坐了一会儿 听见拉菲对父亲说:
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"Father, you can run faster than me."
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“爸爸,你跑得比我快。”
09:44
(Laughter)
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(众人笑)
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And Mahmoud, "Of course I can.
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麦哈麦得说:“当然啦。
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I can run, and now you can go to school.
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我现在能跑了,所以现在你可以去上学了。
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No need of staying with me all the day
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不用再为我
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pushing my wheelchair."
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整天推轮椅了。”
09:57
Later on, we took them home.
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后来 我们把送他们回家
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And I will never forget
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我永远不会忘记
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Mahmoud and his son walking together
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麦哈麦得和儿子走在一起
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pushing the empty wheelchair.
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推着那辆空轮椅的情景。
10:07
And then I understood,
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然后我就明白了
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physical rehabilitation is a priority.
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原来 肢体复健是重中之重
10:14
Dignity cannot wait for better times.
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尊严不能多等一天
10:19
From that day on, we never closed a single day.
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从那天开始 我们再没关门
10:24
Well sometimes we were suspended for a few hours,
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有时候我们会稍微停工几个小时
10:26
but we never, we never closed it again.
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但我们再也没有关过门
10:31
I met Mahmoud one year later.
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一年之后 我又见到了麦哈麦得
10:33
He was in good shape --
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他情况不错
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a bit thinner.
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瘦了一点
10:40
He needed to change his prostheses --
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他需要更换
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a new pair of prostheses.
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一副新的义肢
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I asked about his son.
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我问起他儿子情况
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He told me, "He's at school. He'd doing quite well."
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他说:“他在上学。挺好的。”
10:50
But I understood he wanted to tell me something.
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但我知道他有话跟我说
10:54
So I asked him, "What is that?"
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所以我问他:“什么事?”
10:58
He was sweating.
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他在冒汗
11:00
He was clearly embarrassed.
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很明显 他感到不好意思
11:04
And he was standing in front of me,
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他站在我面前
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his head down.
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低着头
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He said, "You have taught me to walk.
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他说:“你教我如何走路,
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Thank you very much.
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我很感激你。
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Now help me not to be a beggar anymore."
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现在请帮我 让我不用再乞讨。”
11:21
That was the job.
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那就是他的工作
11:23
"My children are growing.
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“我的孩子们在成长。
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I feel ashamed.
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我抬不起头。
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I don't want them to be teased at school
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我不希望他们在学校
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by the other students."
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被其他人欺负。”
11:34
I said, "Okay."
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我说:“好的。”
11:36
I thought, how much money do I have in my pocket?
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我想 我口袋里有多少钱?
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Just to give him some money.
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给他点钱就行了
11:40
It was the easiest way.
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这是最简单的办法
11:42
He read my mind,
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他知道我的心思
11:44
and he said, "I ask for a job."
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然后他说:“我要的是一份工作。”
11:50
And then he added something
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接着又说了一些
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I will never forget for the rest of my life.
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我毕生都无法忘怀的话
11:57
He said, "I am a scrap of a man,
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他说:“我是个身体残缺的人,
12:03
but if you help me,
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但如果你肯帮我,
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I'm ready to do anything,
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我什么活都能干,
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even if I have to crawl on the ground."
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就算是在地上爬,都可以。”
12:12
And then he sat down.
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接着 他坐下了
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I sat down too with goosebumps everywhere.
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我也一身鸡皮疙瘩地坐了下来
12:22
Legless, with only one arm,
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一个没有腿 只有一只手臂
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illiterate,
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不会识字
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unskilled --
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没有技能的人
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what job for him?
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给他什么工作呢?
12:37
Najmuddin told me, "Well we have a vacancy
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纳吉木丁告诉我:“我们的木匠房
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in the carpentry shop."
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缺人手。”
12:42
"What?" I said, "Stop."
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“什么?” 我说:“停。”
12:47
"Well yes, we need to increase the production of feet.
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“是的,我们需要增产假腿。
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We need to employ someone
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需要招人来
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to glue and to screw the sole of the feet.
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把义肢的脚底粘合并组装起来
12:59
We need to increase the production."
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我们需要增产。”
13:02
"Excuse me?"
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“什么?”
13:04
I could not believe.
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我不敢相信
13:08
And then he said,
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然后他说:
13:11
"No, we can modify the workbench
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“我们可以把工作椅调整一下,
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maybe to put a special stool,
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或许可以放一张特殊的凳子,
13:16
a special anvil, special vice,
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使用特殊的铁砧和老虎钳
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and maybe an electric screwdriver."
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还有电动的螺丝刀。”
13:22
I said, "Listen, it's insane.
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我说:“听着,这是乱弹琴。
13:25
And it's even cruel to think of anything like this.
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这想法太残忍了。
13:28
That's a production line and a very fast one.
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那条生产线非常快。
13:31
It's cruel
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让他做这份工作
13:33
to offer him a job
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太残忍了
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knowing that he's going to fail."
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明知道他干不来。”
13:40
But with Najmuddin, we cannot discuss.
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但是我扭不过纳吉木丁
13:44
So the only things I could manage to obtain
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我只能说服他
13:50
was a kind of a compromise.
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做出一点让步
13:54
Only one week --
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只给一个星期
13:56
one week try and not a single day more.
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只能试一个星期 一天都不多给
13:59
One week later,
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一个星期之后
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Mahmoud was the fastest in the production line.
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麦哈麦得成了生产线上最快的工人
14:05
I told Najmuddin, "That's a trick.
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我对纳吉木丁说:“这是骗人的。
14:08
I can't believe it."
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我不相信。”
14:10
The production was up 20 percent.
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产量增长了20%
14:12
"It's a trick, it's a trick," I said.
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“这是个骗局,骗局。” 我说
14:15
And then I asked for verification.
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我要他们证明给我看
14:17
It was true.
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这是千真万确的
14:20
The comment of Najmuddin was Mahmoud has something to prove.
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纳吉木丁的意思是 麦哈麦得有需要证明的东西
14:23
I understood
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我醒悟过来
14:25
that I was wrong again.
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我又错了
14:28
Mahmoud had looked taller.
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麦哈麦得显得高大了
14:30
I remember him sitting behind the workbench smiling.
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我记得他当时坐在工作椅上 面带微笑
14:36
He was a new man,
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他已经焕然一新
14:39
taller again.
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重新站了起来
14:42
Of course, I understood
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当然 我明白
14:44
that what made him stand tall --
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让他站得笔直的
14:48
yeah they were the legs, thank you very much --
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对 是要非常感谢他的双腿
14:50
but as a first step,
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但首先
14:53
it was the dignity.
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还是他的尊严
14:55
He has regained his full dignity
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因为那份工作
14:58
thanks to that job.
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他重拾了尊严
15:00
So of course, I understood.
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所以 我明白了
15:02
And then we started a new policy --
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接着 我们开始了一项新政策
15:05
a new policy completely different.
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一项全新的政策
15:07
We decided to employ
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我们决定
15:09
as many disabled as possible
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招聘尽可能多的残疾人
15:11
to train them in any possible job.
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训练他们从事任何工作
15:13
It became a policy of "positive discrimination,"
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这成了一项“良性的歧视”政策
15:16
we call it now.
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我们这样称呼它
15:19
And you know what?
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你知道吗
15:21
It's good for everybody.
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这对所有人都有利
15:23
Everybody benefits from that --
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所有人都得到了好处
15:26
those employed, of course,
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那些被聘用的人 就不用说了
15:28
because they get a job
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他们得到了工作
15:30
and dignity.
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和尊严
15:32
But also for the newcomers.
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还有 那些新来的人
15:34
They are 7,000 every year --
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每年有7000个
15:37
people coming for the first time.
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新来的人
15:39
And you should see the faces of these people
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你们真应该看看他们的表情
15:41
when they realize that those assisting them are like them.
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当他们看到辅助自己的人竟然也和自己一样时 脸上有多惊奇
15:44
Sometimes you see them,
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有时候
15:46
they look, "Oh."
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他们像这样:“哇。”
15:49
And you see the faces.
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然后他们露出惊奇的神色
15:51
And then the surprise turns into hope.
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接着 这惊奇变成了希望
15:58
And it's easy for me as well to train someone
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这也方便了我
16:01
who has already passed through the experience of disability.
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对战胜了残疾的人进行培训
16:04
Poof, they learn much faster -- the motivation,
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嗖 他们学得可快了 那动力
16:08
the empathy they can establish with the patient
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那份用耐心建立起来的悟性
16:10
is completely different, completely.
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完全不可思议
16:14
Scraps of men do not exist.
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人无残人
16:17
People like Mahmoud
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像麦哈麦得这样的人
16:19
are agents of change.
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是变化的载体
16:22
And when you start changing, you cannot stop.
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变化一旦开始 就一发不可收拾
16:25
So employing people, yes,
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所以,是的,给他们工作是一方面
16:27
but also we started programming projects
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但我们也开始提供
16:30
of microfinance, education.
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小额贷款项目和教育
16:32
And when you start, you cannot stop.
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一旦开始 就一发不可收拾了
16:34
So you do vocational training,
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接着你开始职业培训
16:36
home education for those who cannot go to school.
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为不能上学的人提供上门教育
16:39
Physical therapies can be done, not only in the orthopedic center,
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理疗复健不仅能够在矫形中心进行
16:41
but also in the houses of the people.
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还能在人们家里进行
16:43
There is always a better way to do things.
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总能找到更好的做事方法
16:47
That's Najmuddin, the one with the white coat.
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纳吉木丁 也就是穿白色外套的那个
16:50
Terrible Najmuddin, is that one.
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天杀的纳吉木丁 就是那位
16:53
I have learned a lot
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我从纳吉木丁
16:55
from people like Najmuddin, Mahmoud, Rafi.
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麦哈麦得和拉菲这些人身上学到了很多东西
16:57
They are my teachers.
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他们是我的老师
16:59
I have a wish, a big wish,
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我有一个愿望 一个宏伟的愿望
17:02
that this way of working, this way of thinking,
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就是这种工作 思维的方式
17:05
is going to be implemented in other countries.
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能够有朝一日推广到其他国家
17:08
There are plenty of countries at war like Afghanistan.
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世界上有很多国家像阿富汗一样正在打仗
17:13
It is possible and it is not difficult.
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这是可能的 而且并不难做到
17:16
All we have to do
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我们要做的
17:18
is to listen to the people
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就是倾听
17:21
that we are supposed assist,
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那些我们应该帮助的人们
17:24
to make them part
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将他们融入
17:26
of the decision-making process
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决策的过程中
17:29
and then, of course, to adapt.
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然后 让他们学会适应
17:32
This is my big wish.
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这就是我宏伟的愿望
17:36
Well don't think that the changes in Afghanistan are over;
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别以为阿富汗的变化已经结束
17:39
not at all. We are going on.
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远远没有 我们仍在继续
17:41
Recently we have just started a program,
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我们最近才开始了一个项目
17:44
a sport program --
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一个运动项目
17:46
basketball for wheelchair users.
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轮椅篮球运动
17:48
We transport the wheelchairs everywhere.
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我们把轮椅运送到各地
17:51
We have several teams in the main part of Afghanistan.
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在阿富汗主要地区建立了几支球队
17:54
At the beginning,
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一开始
17:56
when Anajulina told me,
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当阿纳朱里纳告诉我
17:59
"We would like to start it,"
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“我们想要开始这个项目。”
18:01
I hesitated.
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我犹豫了
18:03
I said, "No," you can imagine.
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我说:“不行。” 你们可以想象得到
18:05
I said, "No, no, no, no, we can't."
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我说:“不不不,这么做不行。”
18:07
And then I asked the usual question:
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接着 我又问了那个问题:
18:09
"Is it a priority?
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“这是重中之重吗?
18:11
Is it really necessary?"
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这真有必要吗?”
18:14
Well now you should see me.
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现在你可以看到
18:16
I never miss a single training session.
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我从来没有错过任何一次训练
18:19
The night before a match I'm very nervous.
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比赛前一天 我非常紧张
18:22
And you should see me during the match.
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你们应该看我比赛时的样子
18:26
I shout like a true Italian.
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我像一个真正的意大利人那样狂吼
18:29
(Laughter)
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(众人笑)
18:32
What's next? What is going to be the next change?
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接下来呢 下一个变化是什么
18:36
Well I don't know yet,
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我还不知道
18:38
but I'm sure Najmuddin and his friends,
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但是我知道 纳吉木丁和他的同伙们
18:40
they have it already in mind.
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已经盘算好了
18:42
That was my story. Thank you very much.
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我的故事讲完了 非常感谢大家
18:45
(Applause)
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(众人鼓掌)
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