How a long-forgotten virus could help us solve the antibiotics crisis | Alexander Belcredi

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Prevodilac: Kristina Radosavljević Lektor: Ivana Krivokuća
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Take a moment
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Zastanite malo
00:14
and think about a virus.
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i razmislite o virusima.
00:16
What comes to your mind?
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Šta vam prvo pada na pamet?
00:18
An illness?
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Bolest?
00:20
A fear?
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Strah?
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Probably something really unpleasant.
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Verovatno nešto jako neprijatno.
00:23
And yet, viruses are not all the same.
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A ipak, nisu svi virusi isti.
00:25
It's true, some of them cause devastating disease.
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Istina, neki od njih izazivaju razorne bolesti.
00:29
But others can do the exact opposite -- they can cure disease.
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Ali drugi mogu učiniti potpuno suprotno - mogu izlečiti bolest.
00:33
These viruses are called "phages."
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Ovi virusi se zovu „fagi“.
00:36
Now, the first time I heard about phages was back in 2013.
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Prvi put sam čuo za fage 2013. godine.
00:39
My father-in-law, who's a surgeon,
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Moj tast, hirurg,
00:41
was telling me about a woman he was treating.
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mi je pričao o ženi koju je lečio.
00:44
The woman had a knee injury, required multiple surgeries,
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Žena je imala povredu kolena koja je zahtevala nekoliko operacija,
00:47
and over the course of these,
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zbog kojih joj se razvila hronična bakterijska infekcija u nozi.
00:48
developed a chronic bacterial infection in her leg.
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00:51
Unfortunately for her,
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Na njenu žalost,
00:52
the bacteria causing the infection also did not respond
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bakterija koja je izazivala infekciju
nije reagovala ni na jedan antibiotik koji je bio dostupan.
00:55
to any antibiotic that was available.
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00:58
So at this point, typically, the only option left is to amputate the leg
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Tako da je u tom momentu, obično, jedina opcija amputacija noge
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to stop the infection from spreading further.
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kako bi se sprečilo širenje infekcije.
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Now, my father-in-law was desperate for a different kind of solution,
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Moj tast je očajnički pokušavao da pronađe drugo rešenje,
01:08
and he applied for an experimental, last-resort treatment using phages.
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i primenio je eksperimentalni, najnoviji tretman koristeći fage.
01:13
And guess what? It worked.
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I znate šta se desilo? Uspelo je.
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Within three weeks of applying the phages, the chronic infection had healed up,
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U roku od tri nedelje od primene faga, hronična infekcija je bila izlečena,
01:19
where before, no antibiotic was working.
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tamo gde nijedan antibiotik nije uspeo.
01:22
I was fascinated by this weird conception:
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Ovaj čudni koncept je bio fascinantan za mene:
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viruses curing an infection.
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virusi leče infekciju.
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To this day, I am fascinated by the medical potential of phages.
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Do današnjeg dana, fasciniran sam medicinskim potencijalom faga.
01:34
And I actually quit my job last year to build a company in this space.
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U stvari, dao sam otkaz prošle godine da bih osnovao kompaniju u ovoj sferi.
01:38
Now, what is a phage?
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Šta je fag?
01:41
The image that you see here was taken by an electron microscope.
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Slika koju ovde vidite je napravljena elektronskim mikroskopom.
01:45
And that means what we see on the screen is in reality extremely tiny.
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Što znači da je ono što vidimo na ekranu u stvarnosti izuzetno sićušno.
01:49
The grainy thing in the middle with the head, the long body
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Ova zrnasta stvar u sredini sa glavom, dugačkim telom
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and a number of feet --
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i više stopala -
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this is the image of a prototypical phage.
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to je slika prototipa faga.
01:57
It's kind of cute.
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Sladak je, na neki način.
01:58
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
02:00
Now, take a look at your hand.
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Sad, pogledajmo vaše ruke.
02:03
In our team, we've estimated that you have more than 10 billion phages
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Naš tim je procenio da imate više od 10 milijardi faga
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on each of your hands.
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na svakoj ruci.
02:09
What are they doing there?
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Šta rade tu?
02:11
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
02:12
Well, viruses are good at infecting cells.
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Pa, virusi su dobri u inficiranju ćelija.
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And phages are great at infecting bacteria.
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A fagi su dobri u inficiranju bakterija.
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And your hand, just like so much of our body,
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A vaša ruka je, kao i ostatak vašeg tela,
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is a hotbed of bacterial activity,
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leglo bakterijske aktivnosti,
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making it an ideal hunting ground for phages.
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što je čini idealnim lovištem za fage.
02:26
Because after all, phages hunt bacteria.
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Zato što, na kraju krajeva, fagi love bakterije.
02:29
It's also important to know that phages are extremely selective hunters.
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Takođe je veoma važno znati da su fagi veoma selektivni lovci.
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Typically, a phage will only infect a single bacterial species.
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Obično, fag će inficirati samo jednu vrstu bakterija.
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So in this rendering here, the phage that you see
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Dakle, na ovom prikazu ovde, fag koga vidite
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hunts for a bacterium called Staphylococcus aureus,
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lovi bakteriju koja se zove zlatni stafilokok,
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which is known as MRSA in its drug-resistant form.
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poznatu kao MRSA, u svom obliku otpornom na antibiotike.
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It causes skin or wound infections.
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Izaziva infekcije kože ili rana.
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The way the phage hunts is with its feet.
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Fagi love svojim stopalima.
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The feet are actually extremely sensitive receptors,
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Stopala su u stvari izuzetno osetljivi receptori,
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on the lookout for the right surface on a bacterial cell.
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u potrazi za pravom površinom bakterijske ćelije.
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Once it finds it,
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Jednom kada je nađe,
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the phage will latch on to the bacterial cell wall
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fag će se prikovati za zid bakterijske ćelije
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and then inject its DNA.
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i ubaciti svoj DNK.
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DNA sits in the head of the phage
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DNK se nalazi u glavi faga
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and travels into the bacteria through the long body.
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i putuje u bakteriju kroz dugačko telo.
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At this point, the phage reprograms the bacteria
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U ovom trenutku, fag reprogramira bakteriju
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into producing lots of new phages.
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da proizvodi mnogo novih faga.
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The bacteria, in effect, becomes a phage factory.
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Tako bakterija postaje fabrika faga.
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Once around 50-100 phages have accumulated within the bacteria cell,
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Kada se 50-100 faga nakupe unutar ćelije,
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the phages are then able to release a protein
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fagi su tad u mogućnosti da oslobode protein
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that disrupts the bacteria cell wall.
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koji slabi ćelijski zid bakterije.
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As the bacteria bursts, the phages move out
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Kako bakterija pukne, fagi se iseljavaju
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and go on the hunt again for a new bacteria to infect.
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i idu ponovo u potragu za novom bakterijom koju će inficirati.
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Now, I'm sorry, this probably sounded like a scary virus again.
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Izvinjavam se, ovo je verovatno ponovo zvučalo kao strašni virus.
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But it's exactly this ability of phages --
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Ali upravo ova sposobnost faga -
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to multiply within the bacteria and then kill them --
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da se razmnože u bakteriji i onda ih ubiju -
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that make them so interesting from a medical point of view.
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ih čini izuzetno interesantnim sa medicinske tačke gledišta.
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The other part that I find extremely interesting
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Drugi deo koji je meni izuzetno interesantan
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is the scale at which this is going on.
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je obim u kojem se to odvija.
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Now, just five years ago, I really had no clue about phages.
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Pre samo pet godina, nisam imao pojma o fagima.
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And yet, today I would tell you they are part of a natural principle.
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A ipak, danas bih mogao da vam kažem da su oni deo prirodnog principa.
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Phages and bacteria go back to the earliest days of evolution.
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Fagi i bakterije postoje od najranijih dana evolucije.
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They have always existed in tandem, keeping each other in check.
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I uvek su živeli u tandemu, držeći pod kontrolom jedni druge.
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So this is really the story of yin and yang, of the hunter and the prey,
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Dakle, ovo je u suštini priča o jinu i jangu, o lovcu i plenu,
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at a microscopic level.
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na mikroskopskom nivou.
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Some scientists have even estimated
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Neki naučnici su čak procenili
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that phages are the most abundant organism on our planet.
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da su fagi najrasprostranjeniji organizmi na našoj planeti.
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So even before we continue talking about their medical potential,
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Tako da, pre nego što nastavimo priču o njihovom medicinskom potencijalu,
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I think everybody should know about phages and their role on earth:
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mislim da bi svi trebalo da znaju šta su fagi i koja je njihova uloga na zemlji:
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they hunt, infect and kill bacteria.
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oni love, inficiraju i ubijaju bakterije.
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Now, how come we have something that works so well in nature,
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Pa, kako to da imamo nešto što tako dobro funkcioniše u prirodi,
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every day, everywhere around us,
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svakodnevno, svuda oko nas,
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and yet, in most parts of the world,
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a ipak, u većem delu sveta,
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we do not have a single drug on the market
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nemamo nijedan lek na tržištu
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that uses this principle to combat bacterial infections?
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koji koristi ovaj princip u borbi protiv bakterijskih infekcija?
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The simple answer is: no one has developed this kind of a drug yet,
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Jednostavan odgovor je: niko još nije razvio ovakvu vrstu leka,
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at least not one that conforms to the Western regulatory standards
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bar ne takvog koji odgovara standardima zapadne kontrole
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that set the norm for so much of the world.
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koja je postavila pravila u većem delu sveta.
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To understand why, we need to move back in time.
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Da bismo otkrili zašto, moramo se malo vratiti kroz vreme.
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This is a picture of Félix d'Herelle.
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Ovo je slika Feliksa De Herela.
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He is one of the two scientists credited with discovering phages.
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On je jedan od dva naučnika zaslužnih za otkriće faga.
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Except, when he discovered them back in 1917, he had no clue
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Samo, kad ih je otkrio, 1917. godine,
nije imao predstavu šta je otkrio.
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what he had discovered.
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He was interested in a disease called bacillary dysentery,
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Zanimala ga je bolest zvana bacilarna dizenterija,
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which is a bacterial infection that causes severe diarrhea,
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bakterijska infekcija koja izaziva tešku dijareju,
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and back then, was actually killing a lot of people,
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i u to vreme je ubijala dosta ljudi,
zato što, na kraju krajeva, nije postojao lek za bakterijsku infekciju.
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because after all, no cure for bacterial infections had been invented.
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He was looking at samples from patients who had survived this illness.
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On je posmatrao uzorke pacijenata koji su preživeli bolest.
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And he found that something weird was going on.
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I otkrio je da se nešto čudno dešavalo.
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Something in the sample was killing the bacteria
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Nešto u uzorku je ubijalo bakterije
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that were supposed to cause the disease.
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koje je trebalo da izazovu bolest.
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To find out what was going on, he did an ingenious experiment.
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Da bi saznao šta se dešava, napravio je genijalan eksperiment.
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He took the sample, filtered it
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Uzeo je uzorak, filtrirao ga
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until he was sure that only something very small could have remained,
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dok nije bio siguran da je ostalo jako malo,
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and then took a tiny drop and added it to freshly cultivated bacteria.
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a potom je uzeo malu kap i dodao je sveže uzgojenim bakterijama.
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And he observed that within a number of hours,
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Onda je video da su u roku od nekoliko sati
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the bacteria had been killed.
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bakterije bile ubijene.
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He then repeated this, again filtering, taking a tiny drop,
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Onda je on ponovio ovo, ponovo filtrirao, uzeo malu kap,
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adding it to the next batch of fresh bacteria.
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dodao je u sledeću seriju svežih bakterija.
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He did this in sequence 50 times,
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Ovo je ponovio 50 puta,
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always observing the same effect.
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uvek gledajući isti efekat.
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And at this point, he made two conclusions.
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U tom momentu, zaključio je dve stvari.
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First of all, the obvious one: yes, something was killing the bacteria,
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Pre svega, što je očigledno, da, nešto je ubijalo bakterije,
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and it was in that liquid.
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i to nešto je bilo u tečnosti.
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The other one: it had to be biologic in nature,
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Drugo: to je moralo biti nešto biološke prirode,
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because a tiny drop was sufficient to have a huge impact.
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zato što je bila dovoljna samo mala kap da napravi tako veliki učinak.
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He called the agent he had found an "invisible microbe"
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On je ovaj agens koji je pronašao nazvao „nevidljivi mikrob“
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and gave it the name "bacteriophage,"
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i dao mu naziv „bakterofag“,
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which, literally translated, means "bacteria eater."
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što u bukvalnom prevodu znači „žderač bakterija“.
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And by the way, this is one of the most fundamental discoveries
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A inače, ovo je jedno od osnovnih otkrića
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of modern microbiology.
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moderne mikrobiologije.
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So many modern techniques go back to our understanding of how phages work --
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Mnoge moderne tehnike se vraćaju proučavanju toga kako fagi funkcionišu -
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in genomic editing, but also in other fields.
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u menjanju genoma, ali takođe i na drugim poljima.
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And just today, the Nobel Prize in chemistry was announced
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Upravo danas je najavljena dodela Nobelove nagrade iz hemije
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for two scientists who work with phages and develop drugs based on that.
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za dva naučnika koja su radila sa fagima i razvila lek na bazi njih.
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Now, back in the 1920s and 1930s,
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U 1920-im i 1930-im,
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people also immediately saw the medical potential of phages.
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ljudi su takođe odmah uočili medicinski potencijal faga.
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After all, albeit invisible,
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Na kraju krajeva, iako nevidiljivo,
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you had something that reliably was killing bacteria.
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imali ste nešto što pouzdano ubija bakterije.
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Companies that still exist today, such as Abbott, Squibb or Lilly,
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Kompanije koje postoje i danas, kao što su Abot, Skvib i Lili,
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sold phage preparations.
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su prodavale pripremu faga.
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But the reality is, if you're starting with an invisible microbe,
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Ali u stvarnosti, ako počinjete sa nevidljivim mikrobima,
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it's very difficult to get to a reliable drug.
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veoma je teško dobiti pouzdan lek.
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Just imagine going to the FDA today
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Zamislite da idete danas u Upravu za hranu i lekove
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and telling them all about that invisible virus
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i govorite im o nevidljivom virusu
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you want to give to patients.
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koji želite da date pacijentu.
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So when chemical antibiotics emerged in the 1940s,
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Kada su se hemijski antibiotici pojavili 1940-ih,
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they completely changed the game.
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potpuno su promenili igru.
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And this guy played a major role.
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A ovaj lik je odigrao važnu ulogu.
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This is Alexander Fleming.
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To je Aleksandar Fleming.
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He won the Nobel Prize in medicine
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Dobio je Nobelovu nagradu za medicinu
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for his work contributing to the development
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zbog svog rada koji je doprineo razvoju
prvog antibiotika, penicilina.
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of the first antibiotic, penicillin.
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And antibiotics really work very differently than phages.
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A antibiotici su stvarno delovali veoma drugačije od faga.
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For the most part, they inhibit the growth of the bacteria,
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Većinom, oni sprečavaju rast bakterija,
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and they don't care so much which kind of bacteria are present.
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i nije ih mnogo briga koja je vrsta bakterija prisutna.
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The ones that we call broad-spectrum
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Takozvani antibiotik širokog spektra
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will even work against a whole bunch of bacteria out there.
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će raditi protiv čitavog niza bakterija.
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Compare that to phages, which work extremely narrowly
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U poređenju sa fagima, čije je delovanje prilično suženo
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against one bacterial species,
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protiv određene bakterijske vrste,
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and you can see the obvious advantage.
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možete videti očiglednu prednost.
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Now, back then, this must have felt like a dream come true.
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Tada je to verovatno izgledalo kao san koji se ostvaruje.
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You had a patient with a suspected bacterial infection,
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Imali ste pacijenta kod koga se sumnja na bakterijsku infekciju,
07:53
you gave him the antibiotic,
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dali ste mu antibiotik,
07:55
and without really needing to know anything else about the bacteria
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i bez ikakve potrebe da znate bilo šta o bakteriji
koja je izazvala bolest,
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causing the disease,
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many of the patients recovered.
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mnogi pacijenti su se oporavili.
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And so as we developed more and more antibiotics,
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Tako smo razvili još antibiotika,
08:03
they, rightly so, became the first-line therapy for bacterial infections.
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koji su, s pravom, postali prvi izbor za terapiju protiv bakterijskih infekcija.
08:07
And by the way, they have contributed tremendously to our life expectancy.
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Uzgred, oni su veoma doprineli produžetku životnog veka.
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We are only able to do complex medical interventions
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Danas možemo da izvršimo kompleksne medicinske intervencije
08:14
and medical surgeries today
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i operacije
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because we have antibiotics,
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samo zahvaljujući antibioticima,
08:17
and we don't risk the patient dying the very next day
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bez rizika da će pacijent umreti sledećeg dana
08:20
from the bacterial infection that he might contract during the operation.
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od bakterijske infekcije sa kojom je možda došao u kontakt tokom operacije.
08:24
So we started to forget about phages, especially in Western medicine.
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Tako smo počeli da zaboravljamo na fage, pogotovo zapadna medicina.
08:28
And to a certain extent, even when I was growing up, the notion was:
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I u određenoj meri, čak i dok sam ja odrastao, važio je koncept
08:32
we have solved bacterial infections; we have antibiotics.
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da smo rešili problem bakterijskih infekcija
jer imamo antibiotike.
08:37
Of course, today, we know that this is wrong.
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Naravno, danas znamo da je to pogrešno.
08:40
Today, most of you will have heard about superbugs.
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Danas je većina vas verovatno čula za superbakterije.
08:42
Those are bacteria that have become resistant
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To su one bakterije koje su postale otporne
08:45
to many, if not all, of the antibiotics that we have developed
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na mnoge, ako ne na sve, antibiotike koje smo razvili
08:49
to treat this infection.
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da bismo lečili infekciju.
08:51
How did we get here?
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Kako smo dospeli dovde?
08:53
Well, we weren't as smart as we thought we were.
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Pa, nismo bili toliko pametni koliko smo mislili da jesmo.
08:56
As we started using antibiotics everywhere --
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Počeli smo koristiti antibiotike svuda -
08:59
in hospitals, to treat and prevent; at home, for simple colds;
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u bolnicama, za lečenje i prevenciju; kod kuće, za najobičnije prehlade;
09:02
on farms, to keep animals healthy --
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na farmama, da bi životinje ostale zdrave -
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the bacteria evolved.
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bakterije su evoluirale.
09:07
In the onslaught of antibiotics that were all around them,
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U najezdi antibiotika koji su bili oko njih,
09:11
those bacteria survived that were best able to adapt.
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bakterije koje su preživele su one koje su najbolje mogle da se prilagode.
09:15
Today, we call these "multidrug-resistant bacteria."
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Danas, njih zovemo „bakterije otporne na lekove“.
09:18
And let me put a scary number out there.
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Dozvolite mi da iznesem jedan zastrašujući broj.
09:20
In a recent study commissioned by the UK government,
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U nedavnom istraživanju koje je sprovela britanska vlada,
09:22
it was estimated that by 2050,
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procenjeno je da bi do 2050. godine
09:25
ten million people could die every year from multidrug-resistant infections.
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deset miliona ljudi godišnje moglo umreti od infekcija otpornih na lekove.
09:29
Compare that to eight million deaths from cancer per year today,
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Uporedite to sa osam miliona godišnje smrtnih ishoda od raka danas,
09:33
and you can see that this is a scary number.
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i videćete da je to zastrašujući broj.
09:35
But the good news is, phages have stuck around.
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Ali, dobra vest je da su fagi još uvek tu.
09:39
And let me tell you, they are not impressed by multidrug resistance.
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I da vam kažem, uopšte nisu impresionirani otpornošću na lekove.
09:42
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
09:43
They are just as happily killing and hunting bacteria all around us.
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I dalje srećno ubijaju i love bakterije oko nas.
09:50
And they've also stayed selective, which today is really a good thing.
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A i dalje su ostali selektivni, što je danas jako dobra stvar.
Danas smo u mogućnosti da identifikujemo bakterijski patogen
09:53
Today, we are able to reliably identify a bacterial pathogen
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that's causing an infection in many settings.
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koji izaziva infekciju u mnogim prilikama.
09:59
And their selectivity will help us avoid some of the side effects
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A njihova selektivnost će nam pomoći da izbegnemo neke nuspojave
10:02
that are commonly associated with broad-spectrum antibiotics.
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koje često prate antibiotike širokog spektra.
10:06
But maybe the best news of all is: they are no longer an invisible microbe.
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Ali možda je najbolja vest od svih to da više nisu nevidljivi mikrobi.
10:10
We can look at them.
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Možemo ih videti.
10:11
And we did so together before.
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I to smo i uradili zajedno.
10:13
We can sequence their DNA.
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Možemo analizirati njihov DNK.
10:15
We understand how they replicate.
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Shvatili smo kako se razmnožavaju.
10:16
And we understand the limitations.
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I znamo njihova ograničenja.
10:18
We are in a great place
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Nalazimo se na idealnoj poziciji
10:20
to now develop strong and reliable phage-based pharmaceuticals.
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da sada razvijemo jaku i pouzdanu farmakologiju baziranu na fagima.
10:24
And that's what's happening around the globe.
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I to se dešava širom sveta.
10:26
More than 10 biotech companies, including our own company,
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Preko 10 biotehničkih kompanija, uključujući i našu,
10:29
are developing human-phage applications to treat bacterial infections.
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razvijaju primenu ljudskih faga u borbi protiv bakterijskih infekcija.
10:32
A number of clinical trials are getting underway in Europe and the US.
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Broj kliničkih ispitivanja se odvija u Evropi i SAD.
10:37
So I'm convinced that we're standing on the verge
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Tako da sam uveren da stojimo na pragu
10:40
of a renaissance of phage therapy.
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renesanse terapije fagima.
10:42
And to me, the correct way to depict the phage is something like this.
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A za mene, najbolji način da se opiše fag je nešto ovako.
10:46
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
10:49
To me, phages are the superheroes that we have been waiting for
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Za mene, fagi su superheroji koje smo čekali
10:52
in our fight against multidrug-resistant infections.
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u našoj borbi protiv infekcija otpornih na lekove.
10:56
So the next time you think about a virus,
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Dakle, sledeći put kada pomislite na viruse,
10:59
keep this image in mind.
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imajte ovu sliku na umu.
11:01
After all, a phage might one day save your life.
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Na kraju krajeva, fag vam jednog dana može spasiti život.
11:04
Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
11:06
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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