Rob Legato: The art of creating awe

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Translator: Joseph Geni Reviewer: Morton Bast
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Prevodilac: Tatjana Jevdjic Lektor: Ivana Korom
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I worked on a film called "Apollo 13,"
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Radio sam na filmu "Apolo 13"
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and when I worked on this film, I discovered something
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i radeći na njemu otkrio sam nešto o tome
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about how our brains work, and how our brains work
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kako radi naš mozak. A on radi tako da,
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is that, when we're sort of infused with
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kad smo pod nekim uticajem
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either enthusiasm or awe or fondness or whatever,
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bilo entuzijazma, strahopoštovanja, privrženosti ili bilo čega,
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it changes and alters our perception of things.
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to menja i prekraja našu percepciju stvari.
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It changes what we see. It changes what we remember.
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Menja šta vidimo. Menja šta pamtimo.
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And as an experiment, because I dauntingly create
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Radi jednog eksperimenta, jer neumorno kreiram
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a task for myself of recreating a Saturn V launch
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svoj poduhvat, snimiti lansiranje Saturna V
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for this particular movie, because I put it out there,
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posebno za ovaj film, jer to sam stavio u njega,
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I felt a little nervous about it, so I need to do an experiment
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malo sam bio nervozan zbog toga, pa mi je trebao eksperiment,
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and bring a group of people like this in a projection room
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doveo sam ovakvu grupu ljudi u sobu za projekcije
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and play this stock footage, and when I played this
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i pustio sam ovaj arhivski snimak.
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stock footage, I simply wanted to find out
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Tako sam želeo da otkrijem
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what people remembered, what was memorable about it?
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šta su ljudi zapamtili, šta je bilo nezaboravno?
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What should I actually try to replicate?
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Šta bi u stvari trebalo da ponovim?
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What should I try to emulate to some degree?
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Šta bi donekle trebalo da pokušam da simuliram?
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So this is the footage that I was showing everybody.
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Ovo je snimak koji sam svima pokazivao.
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And what I discovered is, because of the nature
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Ono što sam otkrio je da, zbog prirode
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of the footage and the fact that we're doing this film,
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snimka i činjenice da snimamo taj film,
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there was an emotion that was built into it
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u njega smo gradili emocije
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and our collective memories of what this launch meant to us
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i naše kolektivno pamćenje onoga šta nam to lansiranje znači
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and all these various things.
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i sve te razne stvari.
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When I showed it, and I asked, immediately after
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Kada sam to prikazao i neposredno posle ih pitao
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the screening was over, what they thought of it,
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šta misle o tome,
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what was your memorable shots, they changed them.
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šta je vaš nezaboravan snimak, oni su ih promenili.
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They were -- had camera moves on them.
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Bili su -- kamera se kretala po njima.
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They had all kinds of things. Shots were combined,
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Imali su razne stvari. Snimci su bili kombinovani,
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and I was just really curious, I mean, what the hell
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zaista me je zanimalo, šta ste zaboga
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were you looking at just a few minutes ago
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gledali pre par minuta
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and how come, how'd you come up with this sort of description?
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i kako ste došli do takvog objašnjenja?
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And what I discovered is, what I should do is not actually
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Otkrio sam da ono što u stvari treba da napravim,
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replicate what they saw, is replicate what they remembered.
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nije replika toga šta su videli, već šta su zapamtili.
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So this is our footage of the launch, based on, basically,
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Ovo je naš snimak lansiranja, u osnovi baziran na
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taking notes, asking people what they thought, and then
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beleškama, pitanjima šta misle, zatim
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the combination of all the different shots and all
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kombinovanjem svih različitih snimaka i
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the different things put together created their sort of
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svih različitih stvari stavljenih zajedno. To je stvaralo
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collective consciousness of what they remembered
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neku vrstu zajedničke memorije onoga kako su zapamtili
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it looked like, but not what it really looked like.
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da je izgledalo, ali nije bilo u stvari tako.
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So this is what we created for "Apollo 13."
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Dakle, ovo smo napravili za "Apolo 13".
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(Launch noises)
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(Buka lansiranja)
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So literally what you're seeing now is the confluence
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Ono što doslovno sada vidite je da spoj
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of a bunch of different people, a bunch of different memories,
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gomile različitih ljudi, gomila raznih sećanja,
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including my own, of taking a little bit of liberty
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uključujući i moje, uzimaju malo slobode
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with the subject matter.
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u vezi sa tematikom.
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I basically shot everything with short lenses,
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Uglavnom sam sve snimio sa kratkim sočivima,
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which means that you're very close to the action,
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što znači da ste vrlo blizu akciji,
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but framed it very similarly to the long lens shots
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ali upakovano slično snimku sa dugim sočivima
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which gives you a sense of distance, so I was basically
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što daje osećaj udaljenosti, pa sam u osnovi
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was setting up something that would remind you
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postavljao nešto što će vas podsećati
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of something you haven't really quite seen before. (Music)
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na nešto što niste još zaista videli. (Muzika)
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And then I'm going to show you exactly what it is
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Sada ću vam pokazati šta je tačno to
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that you were reacting to when you were reacting to it.
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na šta ste reagovali kad ste reagovali.
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(Music)
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(Muzika)
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Tom Hanks: Hello, Houston, this is Odyssey.
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Tom Henks: Zdravo, Hjuston, ovde Odisej.
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It's good to see you again. (Cheers) (Music)
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Drago mi je da te ponovo vidim. (Navijanje) (Muzika)
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Rob Legato: I pretend they're clapping for me.
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Rob Legato: Pretvaram se da meni aplaudiraju.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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So now I'm in a parking lot. Basically it's a tin can,
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Sada sam na parkingu. U osnovi, to je limenka
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and I'm basically recreating the launch with
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i ponavljam lansiranje pomoću
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fire extinguishers, fire, I have wax that I threw
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aparata za gašenje požara, vatre, imam vosak koji sam bacao
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in front of the lens to look like ice, and so basically
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ispred sočiva da bi ličilo na led,
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if you believed any of the stuff that I just showed you,
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pa ako ste poverali u nešto od ovog što sam sad pokazao,
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what you were reacting to, what you're emoting to,
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ako ste na nešto reagovali i osećali,
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is something that's a total falsehood, and I found that
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to je totalna laž i otkrio sam da je to
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really kind of fascinating.
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na neki način fascinantno.
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And in this particular case, this is the climax of the movie,
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U ovom posebnom slučaju, to je kulminacija filma,
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and, you know, the weight of achieving it was simply
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a postići je, jednostavno
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take a model, throw it out of a helicopter, and shoot it.
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uzmi model, baci ga iz helikoptera i snimi.
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And that's simply what I did.
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To je prosto ono što sam uradio.
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That's me shooting, and I'm a fairly mediocre operator,
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Ovo sam ja kako snimam, osrednji sam operater,
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so I got that nice sense of verisimilitude, of a kind of,
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imam lep osećaj za verodostojnost, kao
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you know, following the rocket all the way down,
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praćenje rakete celim putem dole,
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and giving that little sort of edge, I was desperately
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tako dajem tu oštrinu, očajnički sam
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trying to keep it in frame. So then I come up to the next thing.
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pokušavao da je zadržim u kadru. Posle sam otišao na sledeću stvar.
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We had a NASA consultant who was actually an astronaut,
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Imali smo NASA konsultanta koji je u stvari astronaut,
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who was actually on some of the missions, of Apollo 15,
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stvarno je bio u misijama Apola 15,
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and he was there to basically double check my science.
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bio je tu da temeljno proveri moju nauku.
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And, I guess somebody thought they needed to do that.
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Pretpostavljam da je neko mislio da to treba.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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I don't know why, but they thought they did.
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Ne znam zašto, mislili su da treba.
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So we were, he's a hero, he's an astronaut, and
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On je heroj, astronaut i
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we're all sort of excited, and, you know, I gave myself
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svi smo bili nekako uzbuđeni, pa sam bio slobodan da
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the liberty of saying, you know, some of the shots I did
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kažem, da neki od mojih snimaka i
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didn't really suck that bad.
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nisu bili zaista tako loši.
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And so maybe, you know, we were feeling kind of a little
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Zbog toga smo se osećali na neki način pomalo
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good about it, so I brought him in here, and he needed
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dobro u vezi toga. Doveo sam ga ovde, morao je
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to really check and see what we were doing,
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da zaista proveri šta radimo
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and basically give us our A plus report card,
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i dao nam je najbolju ocenu,
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and so I showed him some shots we were working on,
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pa sam mu pokazao neke snimke na kojima smo radili
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and waiting for the reaction that you hope for,
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i čekao reakciju kojoj se nadate,
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which is what I got. (Music) (Launch noises)
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a to sam i dobio. (Muzika) (Buka lansiranja)
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So I showed him these two shots,
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Pokazao sam mu ova dva snimka,
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and then he basically told me what he thought.
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onda mi je rekao šta o tome misli:
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("That's wrong") (Laughter)
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"To je pogrešno." (Smeh)
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Okay. (Laughter)
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OK. (Smeh)
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It's what you dream about.
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To je ono o čemu sanjate.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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So what I got from him is, he turned to me and said,
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Okrenuo se prema meni i rekao:
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"You would never, ever design a rocket like that.
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"Nikada, nikada ne bi tako dizajnirao raketu.
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You would never have a rocket go up
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Nema rakete koja ide gore
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while the gantry arms are going out. Can you imagine
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dok se izvlače nogare postolja. Možete li zamisliti
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the tragedy that could possibly happen with that?
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do koje tragedije može doći tako?
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You would never, ever design a rocket like that."
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Nikad, nikad ne biste dizajnirali raketu tako."
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And he was looking at me. It's like, Yeah, I don't know
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Gledao me je. To je kao, ne znam,
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if you noticed, but I'm the guy out in the parking lot
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ako ste primetili, ali ja sam momak sa parkinga
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recreating one of America's finest moments with
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koji ponovo stvara jedan od najboljih momenata Amerike
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fire extinguishers.
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sa aparatima za gašenje požara.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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And I'm not going to argue with you. You're an astronaut,
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Neću se svađati sa vama. Vi ste astronaut,
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a hero, and I'm from New Jersey, so --
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heroj, ja sam iz Nju Džersija, pa --
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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I'm just going to show you some footage.
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Pokazaću vam neki snimak.
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I'm just going to show you some footage, and tell me what you think.
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Recite mi šta mislite.
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And then I did kind of get the reaction I was hoping for.
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Posle sam dobio reakciju kakvoj sam se nadao.
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So I showed him this, and this is actual footage
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Tako sam mu pokazao ovo, što je stvarni snimak
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that he was on. This is Apollo 15. This was his mission.
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na kom je on. Ovo je Apolo 15. Ovo je njegova misija.
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So I showed him this, and the reaction I got was interesting.
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Pokazao sam mu ovo i rekacija koju sam dobio je bila zanimljiva:
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("That's wrong too.") (Laughter)
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"To je takođe pogrešno." (Smeh)
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So, and what happened was, I mean, what I sort of intuned
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Ono što se desilo, zaključio sam,
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in that is that he remembered it differently.
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on je drugačije zapamtio.
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He remembered that was a perfectly safe sort of gantry
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Zapamtio je da je sistem postolja savršeno siguran,
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system, perfectly safe rocket launch, because he's sitting
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savršeno sigurno lansiranje rakete, jer on je sedeo
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in a rocket that has, like, a hundred thousand pounds
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u raketi čiji je pogon 50 t,
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of thrust, built by the lowest bidder.
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koju je napravio najjeftiniji ponuđač.
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He was hoping it was going to work out okay.
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Nadao se da će to dobro raditi.
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(Laughter) (Applause)
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(Smeh) (Aplauz)
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So he twisted his memory around.
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Tako da je on drugačije zapamtio.
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Now, Ron Howard ran into Buzz Aldrin, who was not
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Ron Hauard je naleteo na Baza Oldrina, koji nije bio
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on the movie, so he had no idea that we were faking
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u filmu, tako da on nije imao pojma da lažiramo
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any of this footage, and he just responded
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bilo šta na snimku, pa je jednostavno odgovorio
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as he would respond, and I'll run this.
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kao što ćete videti.
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Ron Howard: Buzz Aldrin came up to me
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Ron Houard: Baz Oldrin mi je prišao i
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and said, "Hey, that launch footage, I saw some shots
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rekao: "Hej, to lansiranje, video sam neke snimke
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I'd never seen before. Did you guys, what vault did you find
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koje nisam pre video. U kom sefu ste
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that stuff in?" And I said, "Well, no vault, Buzz,
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našli te snimke?" Rekao sam: "Ne u sefu, Baze,
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we generated all that from scratch."
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sve smo to napravili ni iz čega."
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And he said, "Huh, that's pretty good. Can we use it?"
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Rekao je: "Uh, to je prilično dobro. Možemo li da ga koristimo?"
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(Explosion) ("Sure") (Laughter)
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(Prasak) ("Svakako") (Smeh)
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RL: I think he's a great American.
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RL: Mislim da je on veliki Amerikanac.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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So, "Titanic" was, if you don't know the story,
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"Titanik" se, ako ne znate priču,
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doesn't end well.
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ne završava dobro.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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Jim Cameron actually photographed the real Titanic.
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Džim Kameron je u stvari fotografisao stvarni Titanik.
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So he basically set up, or basically shattered
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U osnovi je postavio ili razbio
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the suspension of disbelief, because what he photographed
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odgađanje neverice, jer ono što je fotografisao
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was the real thing, a Mir sub going down, or actually
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bilo je stvarno. Podmornica Mir plovi dole, u stvari
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two Mir subs going down to the real wreck,
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dva Mira idu dole do olupine
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and he created this very haunting footage.
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i on je kreirao ovaj avetinjski snimak.
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It's really beautiful, and it conjures up all these
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Zaista je prekrasan, izaziva sve vrste
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various different emotions, but he couldn't photograph
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različitih emocija, ali nije mogao sve da fotografiše,
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everything, and to tell the story,
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a da bih ispričao priču,
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I had to fill in the gaps, which is now rather daunting,
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trebalo je da popunim praznine, sada prilično zastrašujuće
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because now I have to recreate back to back
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jer moram da rekreiram sve unazad
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what really happened and I had, I'm the only one
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šta se desilo i samo ja zaista mogu
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who could really blow it at that point.
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sve upropastiti na tom mestu.
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So this is the footage he photographed,
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Ovo je snimak koji je on napravio,
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and it was pretty moving and pretty awe-inspiring.
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prilično je dirljiv i izaziva strahopoštovanje.
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So I'm going to just let it run, so you kind of absorb
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Pustiću ga da ide, da možete da upijete
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this sort of thing, and I'll describe my sort of reactions
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ovo i objasniću vam svoje reakcije
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when I was looking at it for the very first time.
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koje sam imao kad sam to gledao prvi put.
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I got the feeling that my brain wanted to basically
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Osećao sam da je moj mozak želeo njegov
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see it come back to life.
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povratak u život.
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I automatically wanted to see this ship,
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Automatski sam želeo da vidim taj brod,
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this magnificent ship, basically in all its glory,
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taj prekrasan brod, uglavnom u svoj svojoj lepoti
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and conversely, I wanted to see it not in all its glory,
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i obrnuto,
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basically go back to what it looks like.
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da ga vidim kakav je u stvari.
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So I conjured up an effect that I'm later going to show you
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Tako da sam napravio jedan efekat, pokazaću vam kasnije
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what I tried to do, which is kind of the heart of the movie,
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šta sam pokušao da uradim, to je na neki način srce filma
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for me, and so that's why I wanted to do the movie,
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za mene. Zbog toga sam želeo da radim taj film
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that's why I wanted to create the sort of things I created.
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i da napravim stvari koje sam napravio.
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And I'll show you, you know, another thing that I found
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Pokazaću vam još jednu stvar koja je
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interesting is what we really were emoting to
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zanimljiva, na nju zaista emotivno reagujemo
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when you take a look at it.
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kada je gledamo.
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So here's the behind the scenes, a couple of little shots here.
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Evo iza scene, par kratkih snimaka ovde.
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So, when you saw my footage,
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Kada ste videli moj snimak,
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you were seeing this: basically, a bunch of guys
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videli ste ovo: gomilu momaka koji prevrću
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flipping a ship upside down, and the little Mir subs
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brod i malu podmornicu Mir,
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are actually about the size of small footballs,
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u stvari veličine malih fudbalskih kopti,
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and shot in smoke.
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i snimljeno je u dimu.
08:40
Jim went three miles went down, and I went about
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Džim je otišao 5,5 km dole, a ja sam otišao oko
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three miles away from the studio
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5,5 km dalje od studija
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and photographed this in a garage.
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i snimio ovo u garaži.
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And so, but what you're emoting to, or what you're looking
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Ono na šta reagujete ili to u šta gledate
08:49
at, had the same feeling, the same haunting quality,
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izaziva isto osećanje, isto strahopoštovanje
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that Jim's footage had, so I found it so fascinating
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koje je imao Džimov snimak, za mene je fascinirajuće
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that our brains sort of, once you believe something's real,
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da naši umovi, kad poveruju da je nešto stvarno,
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you transfer everything that you feel about it,
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prenose osećanja koja prema tome imate,
09:03
this quality you have, and it's totally artificial.
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taj kvalitet koji imate i to je potpuno veštačko.
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It's totally make-believe, yet it's not to you,
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To je potpuno pretvaranje, ali ne i za vas,
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and I found that that was a very interesting thing
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ovo mi je bilo zanimljivo da
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to explore and use, and it caused me to create the next
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istražim i iskoristim, zbog toga sam napravio
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effect that I'll show you, which is
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efekat koji ću vam pokazati, koji je
09:15
this sort of magic transition, and all I was really attempting
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neka vrsta magične tranzicije, pokušao sam
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to do is basically have the audience cue the effect,
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da ostavim publici da oseti početak efekta
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so it became a seamless experience for them,
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i da za njih to bude neosetno iskustvo,
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that I wasn't showing you my sort of interpretation,
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da ne pokazujem svoju interpretaciju,
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I was showing you what you wanted to see.
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već ono što želite da vidite.
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And the very next shot, right after this --
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Sledeći snimak, odmah posle ovog --
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So you can see what I was doing.
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Možete da vidite šta sam uradio.
09:39
So basically, if there's two subs in the same shot,
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Ako postoje dve podmornice u istom snimku,
09:41
I shot it, because where's the camera coming from?
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onda sam ja snimao, jer odakle kamera dolazi?
09:43
And when Jim shot it, it was only one sub,
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Kad je Džim to snimio, bila je samo jedna podmornica,
09:45
because he was photographing from the other,
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jer je on snimao iz druge,
09:46
and I don't remember if I did this or Jim did this.
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ne sećam se da li je ovo uradio Džim ili ja.
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I'll give it to Jim, because he could use the pat on the back.
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Pripisaću Džimu, jer bi mu dobro došla pohvala.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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Okay. So now the Titanic transition.
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OK. A sada o tranziciji Titanika.
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So this is what I was referring to where I wanted to basically
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Ovo je ono na šta sam mislio kada sam hteo da
10:03
magically transplant from one state of the Titanic
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magično pređem sa jednog stanja Titanika
10:06
to the other. So I'll just play the shot once. (Music)
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na drugo. Pustiću snimak jednom. (Muzika)
10:10
(Music)
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(Muzika)
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And what I was hoping for is that it just melts in front of you.
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Ono čemu se nadam je da to samo iščezne ispred vas.
10:25
Gloria Stuart: That was the last time Titanic ever saw daylight.
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Glorija Stjuart: To je poslednji put da je Titanik video dan.
10:29
RL: So, what I did is basically I had another
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RL: U stvari imao sam drugu
10:32
screening room experience where I was basically tracking
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sobu za snimanje, gde sam pratio
10:35
where I was looking, or where we were looking,
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u šta gledam ili gde smo gledali
10:37
and of course you're looking at the two people on the bow
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i naravno, gledali ste dvoje na pramcu broda
10:39
of the ship, and then at some point,
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i u jednom momentu
10:42
I'm changing the periphery of the shot,
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menjam okolinu snimka,
10:44
I'm changing, it's becoming the rusted wreck,
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menjam, postaje zarđala olupina,
10:46
and then I would run it every day, and then I would find
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zatim bih je puštao svaki dan i potom bih pronašao
10:49
exactly the moment that I stopped looking at them
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tačan momenat kada prestajem da gledam u njih
10:52
and start noticing the rest of it, and the moment
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i kad počinjem da opažam ostalo. Taj momenat
10:54
my eye shifted, we just marked it to the frame.
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kad su moje oči skrenule, samo smo obeležili na frejmu.
10:57
The moment my eye shifted, I immediately started
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Momenat kad su moje oči skrenule, momentalno sam počeo
10:59
to change them, so now somehow you missed
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da ih menjam, tako da ste nekako ispustili
11:01
where it started and where it stopped.
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gde je počelo, a gde se završilo.
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And so I'll just show it one more time.
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Sad ću vam samo još jednom pustiti.
11:06
(Music) And it's literally done by using what our brains
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(Muzika) To je bukvalno urađeno koristeći ono što naš um
11:09
naturally do for us, which is, as soon as you shift
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prirodno radi, a to je, čim skrenete
11:13
your attention, something changes, and then I left
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svoju pažnju, nešto se promeni. Tad sam ostavio
11:15
the little scarf going, because it really wanted to be
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mali šal da leti, jer zaista je htelo da bude
11:17
a ghostly shot, really wanted to feel like they were still
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snimak duhova, zaista je htelo da se oseti da su oni još uvek
11:21
on the wreck, essentially. That's where they were buried forever.
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na olupini. To je mesto gde su zauvek sahranjeni.
11:24
Or something like that. I just made that up.
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Ili tako nešto. Upravo sam to smislio.
11:26
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
11:29
It was, incidentally, the last time I ever saw daylight.
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Slučajno sam tada i ja poslednji put video dnevno svetlo.
11:31
It was a long film to work on. (Laughter)
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Dugo smo radili na filmu. (Smeh)
11:34
Now, "Hugo" was another interesting movie, because
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"Hugo" je još jedan zanimljiv film, jer
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the movie itself is about film illusions.
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to je film o iluzijama.
11:38
It's about how our brain is tricked into seeing a persistence
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Radi se o tome kako se mozak zavarava da vidi trajanje
11:41
of vision that creates a motion picture,
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vizije koja stvara pokretne slike,
11:44
and one of the things I had to do is, we —
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jedna od stvari koju je trebalo da uradim je --
11:48
Sasha Baron Cohen is a very clever, very smart guy,
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Saša Baron Koen je vrlo pametan momak,
11:51
comedian, wanted to basically do an homage to the kind of
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komičar, hteo je da napravi omaž lažnim udarcima
11:53
the Buster Keaton sort of slapstick things, and he wanted
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Bastera Kitona. Hteo je da
11:55
his leg brace to get caught on a moving train.
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mu nogu zarobi voz u pokretu.
11:59
Very dangerous, very impossible to do, and particularly
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Veoma opasno i nemoguće za izvesti, posebno na
12:01
on our stage, because there literally is no way to actually
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našoj sceni, jer bukvalno nije bilo načina
12:04
move this train, because it fits so snugly into our set.
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da se pomeri ovaj voz, jer se dobro uklapa u naš set.
12:09
So let me show you the scene, and then I basically
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Pokazaću vam scenu, tu sam u osnovi
12:12
used the trick that was identified by Sergei Eisenstein,
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koristio trik koji je otkrio Sergej Ajzenštajn, a to je
12:15
which is, if you have a camera that's moving with a moving
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kad imate kameru koja se pomera sa objektom
12:18
object, what is not moving appears to be moving,
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koji se pomera, ono što se ne pomera, deluje kao da se pomera,
12:21
and what is moving appears to be stopped,
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a ono što se pomera deluje da je zaustavljeno,
12:24
so what you're actually seeing now is the train is not
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tako da ono što u stvari vidite je voz koji se uopšte
12:27
moving at all, and what is actually moving is the floor.
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ne pomera, u stvari pod se pomera.
12:32
So this is the shot. That's a little video of
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Ovo je snimak. To je mali video,
12:35
what you're looking at there, which is our little test,
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vidite naš mali test,
12:38
so that's actually what you're seeing, and I thought it was
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to u stvari vidite, mislio sam da je to
12:41
sort of an interesting thing, because it was, part
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nekako zanimljivo, jer i jeste, deo
12:43
of the homage of the movie itself is coming up with this
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omaža samom filmu je smišljanje
12:46
sort of genius trick which I can't take credit for.
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ovog genijalnog trika, koji nije moj.
12:49
I'd love to but I can't, because it was invented
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Voleo bih da jeste, ali nije, jer je izmišljen
12:51
like in 1910 or something like that, is I told Marty,
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1910. ili slično, rekao sam Martiju,
12:56
and it's kind of one of those mind things that it's
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to je ona vrsta stvari koje naš um radi i koje
12:58
really hard to really get until you actually see it work,
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je teško shvatiti, dok ih u stvari ne vidiš na delu.
13:00
and I said, you know, what I was going to do, and he said,
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Rekao sam da ću to da uradim, a on je rekao:
13:03
"So, let me see if I can get this straight. The thing with the wheels?
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"Da li sam te dobro razumeo. Stvar sa točkovima?
13:05
That doesn't move."
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Koja se ne pomera."
13:07
(Laughter) (Applause)
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(Smeh) (Aplauz)
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"And the thing without the wheels, that moves."
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"I stvar bez točkova, koja se pomera."
13:14
Precisely. (Laughter)
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Upravo. (Smeh)
13:17
Brings me to the next, and final --
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Dolazimo do sledećeg i konačnog --
13:20
Marty's not going to see this, is he? (Laughter)
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Marti ovo neće videti, zar ne? (Smeh)
13:24
This isn't viewed outside of -- (Laughter)
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Ovo se ne gleda van -- (Smeh)
13:28
The next illustration is something that, there's like
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Sledeća ilustracija je nešto kao, teorija
13:32
all one shot theory. It's a very elegant way of telling a story,
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jednog snimka. To je vrlo elegantan način pričanja priče,
13:35
especially if you're following somebody on a journey,
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posebno ako pratite nečije putovanje,
13:37
and that journey basically tells something about
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a putovanje vam u osnovi kaže nešto o
13:39
their personality in a very concise way,
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njihovoj ličnosti na vrlo precizan način,
13:42
and what we wanted to do based on the shot in "Goodfellas,"
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ono što smo hteli, kao u snimku u "Dobrim momcima",
13:44
which is one of the great shots ever,
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a to je jedan od najbolje napravljenih snimaka,
13:46
a Martin Scorsese film, of basically following Henry Hill
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film Martina Skorsezea. U njemu prati Henrija Hila
13:49
through what it feels like to be a gangster walk
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kroz nešto što deluje kao gangsterski hod
13:51
going through the Copacabana and being treated in a special way.
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kroz Kopakabanu i to je posebno urađeno.
13:54
He was the master of his universe, and we wanted Hugo
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Bio je gospodar svog sveta, hteli smo da Hugo
13:58
to feel the same way, so we created this shot.
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isto tako deluje, pa smo napravili ovaj snimak.
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(Music)
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(Muzika)
14:04
That's Hugo. (Music)
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To je Hugo. (Muzika)
14:09
And we felt that if we could basically move the camera
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Osetili smo da kad bismo mogli pomerati kameru
14:12
with him, we would feel what it feels like to be this boy
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zajedno sa njim, osetili bi kako je biti taj dečak
14:14
who is basically the master of his universe,
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koji je gospodar svog sveta,
14:17
and his universe is, you know, behind the scenes
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a njegov svet je iza scene
14:20
in the bowels of this particular train station
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u utrobi ove posebne železničke stanice
14:22
that only he can actually navigate through
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kroz koju se samo on može kretati
14:24
and do it this way, and we had to make it feel that
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i to ovako, morali smo to napraviti da se oseti
14:27
this is his normal, everyday sort of life,
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da je ovo njegova normalna svakodnevica.
14:29
so the idea of doing it as one shot was very important,
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Ideja da se to napravi sa samo jednim snimkom je
14:32
and of course, in shooting in 3D, which is basically
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vrlo važna i snimanje sa 3D, što je u osnovi
14:34
it's a huge camera that's hanging off of a giant stick,
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ogromna kamera koja visi sa ogromnog štapa
14:38
so to recreate a steadycam shot was the task,
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pa je stvaranje mirnog snimka bio zadatak,
14:42
and make it feel kind of like what the reaction you got
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postići da izazove sličnu reakciju kao kad gledate
14:45
when you saw the "Goodfellas" shot.
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snimak iz "Dobrih momaka".
14:47
So what you're now going to see is how we actually did it.
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Ono što ćete sada videti je ono što smo u stvari uradili.
14:50
It's actually five separate sets shot at five different times
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To je pet odvojenih setova snimaka sa pet različitih vremena
14:54
with two different boys.
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i dva različita dečaka.
14:55
The one on the left is where the shot ends,
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Ovaj levo je onaj gde je snimak gotov,
14:57
and the shot on the right is where it takes over,
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a snimak desno je mesto gde preuzima
15:02
and now we switch boys, so it went from Asa Butterfield,
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i sada zamenjujemo dečake, tako da je snimak išao od Ase Baterfilda,
15:06
who's the star of the show, to his stand-in. (Music)
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zvezde filma, do njegove zamene. (Muzika)
15:10
I wouldn't say his stunt double. There's a crazy rig
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Ne bih rekao kaskadera. Evo ga ludi tobogan
15:12
that we built for this. (Music)
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koji smo napravili za ovo. (Muzika)
15:14
And so this is, and now this is set number three
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Ovo sad je set broj tri,
15:18
we're into, and then we're going to go into, basically
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i zatim idemo u
15:22
the very last moment of the shot is actually
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poslednji momenat snimka, to je u stvari
15:25
the steadycam shot. Everything else was shot on cranes
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snimak mirnom kamerom. Sve ostalo je snimljeno na kranovima
15:27
and various things like that, and it literally was done
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i raznim stvarima kao to, bukvalno je urađeno
15:29
over five different sets, two different boys, different times,
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kroz pet raznih setova, dva dečaka, u različitim vremenima,
15:32
and it all had to feel like it was all one shot, and what was
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a sve to na kraju deluje kao jedan snimak. Za mene
15:35
sort of great for me was it was probably
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je sjajno to što je taj snimak verovatno
15:40
the best-reviewed shot I've ever worked on,
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dobio najbolje kritike od kako snimam.
15:42
and, you know, I was kind of proud of it when I was done,
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Bio sam ponosan kad je bio gotov i
15:45
which is, you should never really be proud of stuff, I guess.
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nikad ne bi trebalo da ste ponosni na stvari.
15:50
So I was kind of proud of it, and I went to a friend of mine,
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Dakle, bio sam nekako ponosan na njega, otišao sam do prijatelja
15:53
and said, "You know, this is, you know, kind of
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i rekao: "Znaš, ovo je snimak
15:55
the best-reviewed shot I've ever worked on.
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za koji sam dobio najbolje kritike.
15:56
What do you think was the reason?"
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Šta misliš da je razlog?"
15:59
And he said, "Because no one knows
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On je rekao: "Jer niko ne zna
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you had anything to do with it."
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da ti imaš bilo šta sa tim."
16:03
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
16:06
So, all I can say is, thank you,
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Sve što mogu reći je hvala vam,
16:09
and that's my presentation for you. (Applause)
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ovo je moja prezentacija za vas. (Aplauz)
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(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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