Rob Legato: The art of creating awe

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I worked on a film called "Apollo 13,"
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Pracoval som na filme s názvom "Apollo 13"
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and when I worked on this film, I discovered something
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a počas toho som objavil niečo o tom,
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about how our brains work, and how our brains work
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ako pracuje náš mozog. A on pracuje tak,
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is that, when we're sort of infused with
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že keď sme akoby naočkovaní
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either enthusiasm or awe or fondness or whatever,
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buď entuziazmom, úžasom, laskávosťou alebo čímkoľvek,
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it changes and alters our perception of things.
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mení to naše vnímanie veci.
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It changes what we see. It changes what we remember.
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Mení to, čo vidíme. Mení to, čo si pamätáme.
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And as an experiment, because I dauntingly create
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A ako experiment, pretože som si odstrašujúco ušil
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a task for myself of recreating a Saturn V launch
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na seba búdu snahou o reprodukciu štartu Saturnu V
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for this particular movie, because I put it out there,
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v tomto konkrétnom filme. Keďže som ho tam zahrnul,
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I felt a little nervous about it, so I need to do an experiment
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a bol som z toho trochu nervózny, takže som potreboval spraviť experiment,
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and bring a group of people like this in a projection room
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priviesť skupinu ľudí, ako ste vy, do projekčnej miestnosti
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and play this stock footage, and when I played this
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a pustiť im surovú nahrávku.Keď som im pustil túto
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stock footage, I simply wanted to find out
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surovú nahrávku, chcel som jednoducho zistiť,
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what people remembered, what was memorable about it?
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čo si ľudia pamätali, čo bolo na tom nezabudnuteľné.
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What should I actually try to replicate?
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Čo by som sa vlastne mal pokúšať zopakovať?
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What should I try to emulate to some degree?
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Čo by som mal pokúsiť do istého stupňa napodobniť?
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So this is the footage that I was showing everybody.
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Toto je tá nahrávka, ktorú som každému púšťal.
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And what I discovered is, because of the nature
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A zistil som, že vďaka povahe
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of the footage and the fact that we're doing this film,
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nahrávky a faktu, že robíme takýto film,
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there was an emotion that was built into it
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v ňom bola zabudovaná akási emócia
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and our collective memories of what this launch meant to us
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a naše spoločné spomienky toho, čo pre nás tento štart znamenal
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and all these various things.
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a všetky tieto rôzne veci.
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When I showed it, and I asked, immediately after
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Keď som im ju ukázal, a hneď po premietnutí som
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the screening was over, what they thought of it,
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sa ich spýtal, čo si o nej mysleli,
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what was your memorable shots, they changed them.
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ktoré zábery boli ich nezabudnuteľné, zmenili ju.
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They were -- had camera moves on them.
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Boli to... bol v nich pohyb kamery.
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They had all kinds of things. Shots were combined,
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Obsahovali všetko možné. Zábery boli kombinované
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and I was just really curious, I mean, what the hell
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a bol som proste skutočne zvedavý, na čo do čerta
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were you looking at just a few minutes ago
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ste sa pozerali pred pár minútami
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and how come, how'd you come up with this sort of description?
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a ako je možné, že ste prišli s týmto opisom?
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And what I discovered is, what I should do is not actually
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A zistil som, že by som vlastne nemal
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replicate what they saw, is replicate what they remembered.
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zreprodukovať to, čo videli, ale čo si pamätali.
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So this is our footage of the launch, based on, basically,
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Takže toto sú naše zábery zo štartu, založené v podstate
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taking notes, asking people what they thought, and then
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na poznámkach, na otázkach ľuďom, čo si mysleli a potom
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the combination of all the different shots and all
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na kombinácii všetkých možných záberov
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the different things put together created their sort of
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a všetkých možných vecí, ktoré spolu vytvorili akoby istý druh
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collective consciousness of what they remembered
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kolektívneho vedomia, čo si z toho pamätali,
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it looked like, but not what it really looked like.
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ako to vyzeralo, ale nie ako to vyzeralo naozaj.
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So this is what we created for "Apollo 13."
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Takže toto sme vytvorili pre "Apollo 13".
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(Launch noises)
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(Hluk pri štarte)
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So literally what you're seeing now is the confluence
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Teraz vyslovene vidíte zhluk
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of a bunch of different people, a bunch of different memories,
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skupiny rôznych ľudí, skupiny rôznych spomienok,
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including my own, of taking a little bit of liberty
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vrátane mojej, ako nám to dovolila
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with the subject matter.
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podstata námetu.
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I basically shot everything with short lenses,
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V podstate som všetko natočil krátkymi šošovkami,
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which means that you're very close to the action,
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čo znamená, že ste veľmi blízko k dianiu,
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but framed it very similarly to the long lens shots
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ale zostavil som to veľmi podobne, ako s dlhými šošovkami,
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which gives you a sense of distance, so I was basically
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čo vám dáva pocit vzdialenosti, takže som v podstate
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was setting up something that would remind you
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chystal niečo, čo by vám pripomenulo
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of something you haven't really quite seen before. (Music)
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niečo, čo ste ešte nikdy celkom nevideli. (Hudba)
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And then I'm going to show you exactly what it is
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A potom vám ukážem, čo presne je to,
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that you were reacting to when you were reacting to it.
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na čo ste reagovali, keď ste reagovali.
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(Music)
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(Hudba)
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Tom Hanks: Hello, Houston, this is Odyssey.
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Tom Hanks: Ahoj, Houston, tu je Odysea.
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It's good to see you again. (Cheers) (Music)
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Je fajn vás znova vidieť. (Radosť) (Hudba)
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Rob Legato: I pretend they're clapping for me.
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Rob Legato: Robím si nárok na ten potlesk.
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(Laughter)
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(Smiech)
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So now I'm in a parking lot. Basically it's a tin can,
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Takže teraz som na parkovisku. V podstate je to plechovka
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and I'm basically recreating the launch with
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a snažím sa zopakovať štart
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fire extinguishers, fire, I have wax that I threw
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s hasiacim prístrojom, ohňom, voskom, ktorý som hodil
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in front of the lens to look like ice, and so basically
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pred šošovku, aby to vyzeralo ako ľad. A teda v zásade,
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if you believed any of the stuff that I just showed you,
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ak ste verili hocičomu z toho, čo som vám ukázal,
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what you were reacting to, what you're emoting to,
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reagovali ste a vytvárali ste si emócie
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is something that's a total falsehood, and I found that
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na niečo, čo je úplný klam a to sa mi zdalo
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really kind of fascinating.
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skutočne fascinujúce.
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And in this particular case, this is the climax of the movie,
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A tento konkrétny prípad je vyvrcholením filmu
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and, you know, the weight of achieving it was simply
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a, viete, na jeho dosiahnutie sme museli len
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take a model, throw it out of a helicopter, and shoot it.
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vziať model, vyhodiť ho z vrtuľníka a nakrútiť ho.
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And that's simply what I did.
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A to je skrátka to, čo som urobil.
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That's me shooting, and I'm a fairly mediocre operator,
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To som ja, ako natáčam a som celkom priemerný kameraman,
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so I got that nice sense of verisimilitude, of a kind of,
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takže som získal ten cit pre reálnosť a niečo ako,
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you know, following the rocket all the way down,
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viete, keď sledujete raketu počas celého pádu
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and giving that little sort of edge, I was desperately
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a dáte tomu akýsi nádych. Zúfalo som sa
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trying to keep it in frame. So then I come up to the next thing.
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snažil udržať ju v zábere. Takže potom som prešiel na ďalšiu vec.
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We had a NASA consultant who was actually an astronaut,
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Mali sme konzultanta z NASA, ktorý bol aj v skutočnosti astronaut,
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who was actually on some of the missions, of Apollo 15,
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bol aj v niektorých misiách, v misii Apolla 15,
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and he was there to basically double check my science.
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a bol tam, aby v podstate kontroloval moje vedomosti.
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And, I guess somebody thought they needed to do that.
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A predpokladám, že ktosi si myslel, že to musia urobiť.
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(Laughter)
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(Smiech)
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I don't know why, but they thought they did.
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Neviem prečo, ale mysleli si to.
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So we were, he's a hero, he's an astronaut, and
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Bol to hrdina, astronaut
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we're all sort of excited, and, you know, I gave myself
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a všetci sme boli nadšení a, viete, dovolil som si
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the liberty of saying, you know, some of the shots I did
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povedať, že niektoré zábery, čo som spravil,
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didn't really suck that bad.
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neboli fakt až také zlé.
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And so maybe, you know, we were feeling kind of a little
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A preto sme sa s tým možno cítili tak trochu
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good about it, so I brought him in here, and he needed
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spokojní, takže som ho tam priviedol a on chcel
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to really check and see what we were doing,
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naozaj skontrolovať a vidieť, čo sme robili
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and basically give us our A plus report card,
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a v podstate dať nám naše A+ na vysvedčení.
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and so I showed him some shots we were working on,
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Ukázal som mu teda niektoré zábery, na ktorých sme pracovali,
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and waiting for the reaction that you hope for,
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a čakali sme na reakciu, v ktorú sme dúfali,
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which is what I got. (Music) (Launch noises)
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a tú sme aj dostali. (Hudba) (Hluk pri štarte)
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So I showed him these two shots,
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Ukázal som mu tieto dva zábery,
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and then he basically told me what he thought.
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a potom mi povedal, čo si o o tom myslí.
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("That's wrong") (Laughter)
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("Je to zle.") (Smiech)
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Okay. (Laughter)
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Fajn. (Smiech)
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It's what you dream about.
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O tom len snívate.
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(Laughter)
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(Smiech)
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So what I got from him is, he turned to me and said,
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Jeho reakcia bola taká, že sa na mňa otočil a povedal:
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"You would never, ever design a rocket like that.
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"Nikdy v živote by ste nenavrhli takú raketu.
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You would never have a rocket go up
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Raketa by nikdy neodštartovala,
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while the gantry arms are going out. Can you imagine
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kým by sa portálové ramená vysúvali. Viete si predstaviť
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the tragedy that could possibly happen with that?
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tú tragédiu, ktorá by sa takto mohla stať?
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You would never, ever design a rocket like that."
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Nikdy v živote by ste nenavrhli takú raketu."
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And he was looking at me. It's like, Yeah, I don't know
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A pozeral sa na mňa. A ja som si hovoril: "Hej, neviem,
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if you noticed, but I'm the guy out in the parking lot
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či ste si všimli, ale ja som ten chlap na parkovisku,
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recreating one of America's finest moments with
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ktorý rekonštruuje jeden z najlepších momentov Ameriky
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fire extinguishers.
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pomocou hasiacich prístrojov.
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(Laughter)
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(Smiech)
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And I'm not going to argue with you. You're an astronaut,
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Nebudem sa s vami hádať. Ste astronaut,
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a hero, and I'm from New Jersey, so --
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hrdina a ja som z New Jersey, takže...
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(Laughter)
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(Smiech)
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I'm just going to show you some footage.
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Teraz vám ukážem nejaké zábery.
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I'm just going to show you some footage, and tell me what you think.
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Ukážem vám ich a poviete mi, čo si myslíte."
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And then I did kind of get the reaction I was hoping for.
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A potom som kvázi dostal tú reakciu, v ktorú som dúfal.
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So I showed him this, and this is actual footage
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Takže som mu ukázal toto, čo sú to skutočné zábery,
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that he was on. This is Apollo 15. This was his mission.
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na ktorých bol on. Toto je Apollo 15. Toto bola jeho misia.
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So I showed him this, and the reaction I got was interesting.
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Takže som mu to ukázal a jeho reakcia bola zaujímavá.
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("That's wrong too.") (Laughter)
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("Aj to je zle.") (Smiech)
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So, and what happened was, I mean, what I sort of intuned
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Takže sa stalo to, čo som očakával,
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in that is that he remembered it differently.
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že si to pamätal rozdielne.
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He remembered that was a perfectly safe sort of gantry
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Pamätal si, že to bol perfektne bezpečný portálový systém,
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system, perfectly safe rocket launch, because he's sitting
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perfektne bezpečný štart, pretože on sedel
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in a rocket that has, like, a hundred thousand pounds
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v rakete, ktorá má vyše 45 ton
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of thrust, built by the lowest bidder.
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ťahu, postavenú na základe najnižšej ponuky.
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He was hoping it was going to work out okay.
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Dúfal, že to bude fungovať správne.
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(Laughter) (Applause)
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(Smiech) (Potlesk)
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So he twisted his memory around.
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Takže si to v spomienkach pozmenil.
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Now, Ron Howard ran into Buzz Aldrin, who was not
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Ron Howard stretol Buzza Aldrina, ktorý nebol
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on the movie, so he had no idea that we were faking
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vo filme, takže netušil, že ktorýkoľvek z tých záberov
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any of this footage, and he just responded
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je nafingovaný a on reagoval tak,
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as he would respond, and I'll run this.
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ako reagoval. Ja vám to pustím.
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Ron Howard: Buzz Aldrin came up to me
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Ron Howard: Prišiel za mnou Buzz Aldrin
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and said, "Hey, that launch footage, I saw some shots
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a povedal: "Hej, ten záznam štartu, videl som pár záberov,
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I'd never seen before. Did you guys, what vault did you find
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ktoré som predtým nevidel. Kde ste, ľudkovia, v akom archíve ste
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that stuff in?" And I said, "Well, no vault, Buzz,
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našli tie materiály?" A ja som povedal: "Nuž, žiadny archív, Buzz,
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we generated all that from scratch."
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všetko sme vytvorili od nuly."
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And he said, "Huh, that's pretty good. Can we use it?"
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A on: "Fíha, to je celkom dobré. Môžme to použiť?"
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(Explosion) ("Sure") (Laughter)
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(Výbuch) ("Iste") (Smiech)
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RL: I think he's a great American.
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RL: Myslím, že je to skvelý Američan.
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(Laughter)
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(Smiech)
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So, "Titanic" was, if you don't know the story,
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Takže "Titanic", ak nepoznáte príbeh,
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doesn't end well.
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neskončil dobre.
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(Laughter)
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(Smiech)
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Jim Cameron actually photographed the real Titanic.
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Jim Cameron v skutočnosti natočil skutočný Titanic.
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So he basically set up, or basically shattered
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Takže v podstate začal, respektíve v zásade rozbil
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the suspension of disbelief, because what he photographed
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napätie nedôvery, pretože to, čo natočil,
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was the real thing, a Mir sub going down, or actually
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bolo skutočné. Ponorka Mir sa potápata, alebo vlastne
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two Mir subs going down to the real wreck,
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dve ponorky Mir sa potápajú ku skutočnému vraku
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and he created this very haunting footage.
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a tak vytvoril tieto strašidelné zábery.
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It's really beautiful, and it conjures up all these
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Je to skutočne krásne a vykúzli to všemožné
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various different emotions, but he couldn't photograph
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rôzne emócie, ale nemohol nafotiť
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everything, and to tell the story,
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všetko. Aby som vyrozprával príbeh,
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I had to fill in the gaps, which is now rather daunting,
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musel som zaplniť medzery, čo je zrazu dosť odstrašujúce,
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because now I have to recreate back to back
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pretože teraz musím postupne zrekonštruovať,
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what really happened and I had, I'm the only one
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čo sa naozaj stalo a som jediný,
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who could really blow it at that point.
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kto to môže v tomto momente pokaziť.
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So this is the footage he photographed,
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Takže toto sú zábery, ktoré natočil
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and it was pretty moving and pretty awe-inspiring.
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a bolo to poriadne dojemné a úplne úžasné.
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So I'm going to just let it run, so you kind of absorb
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Takže to iba nechám pustené, aby ste absorbovali
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this sort of thing, and I'll describe my sort of reactions
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všetky tieto veci a ja vám opíšem moje reakcie,
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when I was looking at it for the very first time.
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keď som sa na to pozeral po prvý krát.
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I got the feeling that my brain wanted to basically
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Mal som pocit, že môj mozog chcel v podstate
07:54
see it come back to life.
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vidieť, ako to znova ožije.
07:56
I automatically wanted to see this ship,
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Chcel som automaticky vidieť túto loď,
07:58
this magnificent ship, basically in all its glory,
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túto veľkolepú loď, jadnoducho v jej plnej sláve
08:01
and conversely, I wanted to see it not in all its glory,
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a obrátene, nechcel som ju vidieť v jej sláve,
08:04
basically go back to what it looks like.
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chcel som ísť späť k tomu, ako vyzerá.
08:06
So I conjured up an effect that I'm later going to show you
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Takže som vykúzlil efekt, neskôr vám ukážem,
08:10
what I tried to do, which is kind of the heart of the movie,
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o čo som sa pokúšal, ktorý je akýmsi srdcom filmu
08:12
for me, and so that's why I wanted to do the movie,
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i pre mňa. Preto som chcel urobiť ten film,
08:16
that's why I wanted to create the sort of things I created.
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preto som chcel vytvoriť všetko to, čo som vytvoril.
08:19
And I'll show you, you know, another thing that I found
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A ukážem vám ďalšiu vec, ktorá sa mi zdala
08:21
interesting is what we really were emoting to
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zaujímavá, a to aké emócie sme chceli skutočne navodiť,
08:24
when you take a look at it.
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keď sa na to pozriete.
08:25
So here's the behind the scenes, a couple of little shots here.
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Tu máme zábery zo zákulisia, zopár malých záberov.
08:28
So, when you saw my footage,
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Keď ste sledovali moje zábery,
08:30
you were seeing this: basically, a bunch of guys
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videli ste toto: v zásade skupinku ľudí,
08:33
flipping a ship upside down, and the little Mir subs
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ktorí otáčali loď hore nohami, malé ponorky Mir
08:36
are actually about the size of small footballs,
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majú v skutočnosti veľkosť malých lôpt,
08:38
and shot in smoke.
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a natáčali sa v dyme.
08:40
Jim went three miles went down, and I went about
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Jim šiel 5 kilometrov do hĺbky a ja som šiel asi
08:43
three miles away from the studio
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5 kilometrov ďaleko od štúdia
08:44
and photographed this in a garage.
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a natočil som to v garáži.
08:47
And so, but what you're emoting to, or what you're looking
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Ale vaše pocity sú rovnaké, respektíve to, na čo sa pozeráte,
08:49
at, had the same feeling, the same haunting quality,
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vnímate rovnakým pocitom, má rovnakú strašidelnú kvalitu,
08:52
that Jim's footage had, so I found it so fascinating
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ktorú mali Jimove zábery, takže sa mi zdalo fascinujúce,
08:55
that our brains sort of, once you believe something's real,
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ako fungujú naše mozgy. Keď raz uveríte, že niečo je skutočné,
09:00
you transfer everything that you feel about it,
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prepájate všetko, čo k tomu cítite,
09:03
this quality you have, and it's totally artificial.
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túto povahu, ktorú vnímate a všetko je to úplne umelé.
09:05
It's totally make-believe, yet it's not to you,
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Je to vyrobené úplne vierohodne, hoci pre vás už nie,
09:09
and I found that that was a very interesting thing
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a zistil som, že to bolo veľmi zaujímavé
09:11
to explore and use, and it caused me to create the next
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na skúmanie a použitie, čo spôsobilo, že som vytvoril
09:14
effect that I'll show you, which is
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efekt, ktorý vám ukážem. Je to
09:15
this sort of magic transition, and all I was really attempting
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akýsi magický prechod a pokúšal som sa,
09:19
to do is basically have the audience cue the effect,
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aby si diváci ten efekt zapamätali,
09:22
so it became a seamless experience for them,
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čím na nich pôsobil ako jednoliaty zážitok,
09:25
that I wasn't showing you my sort of interpretation,
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ktorým som vám neukazoval moju interpretáciu,
09:27
I was showing you what you wanted to see.
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ale ukazoval som vám to, čo ste chceli vidieť.
09:30
And the very next shot, right after this --
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A ďalší záber, hneď za týmto...
09:37
So you can see what I was doing.
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Môžete vidieť, čo som robil.
09:39
So basically, if there's two subs in the same shot,
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Skrátka, ak sú v rovnakom zábere dve ponorky,
09:41
I shot it, because where's the camera coming from?
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tak to som natočil ja, lebo kam by som dal druhú kameru?
09:43
And when Jim shot it, it was only one sub,
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A keď to točil Jim, bola tam len jedna ponorka,
09:45
because he was photographing from the other,
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pretože on točil z tej druhej
09:46
and I don't remember if I did this or Jim did this.
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a tento záber neviem, či som natočil ja alebo Jim.
09:48
I'll give it to Jim, because he could use the pat on the back.
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Dám to Jimovi, pretože mu dobre padne potľapkanie po pleci.
09:51
(Laughter)
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(Smiech)
09:58
Okay. So now the Titanic transition.
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Dobre. Takže teraz ten prechod v Titanicu.
10:00
So this is what I was referring to where I wanted to basically
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Na toto som v podstate narážal. Chcel som sa
10:03
magically transplant from one state of the Titanic
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zázračne presunúť z jedného stavu Titanicu
10:06
to the other. So I'll just play the shot once. (Music)
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do druhého. Takže pustím ten záber jeden krát. (Hudba)
10:10
(Music)
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(Hudba)
10:13
And what I was hoping for is that it just melts in front of you.
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A dúfal som, že sa pred vami priam rozpustí.
10:25
Gloria Stuart: That was the last time Titanic ever saw daylight.
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Gloria Stuart: To bolo poslednýkrát, čo Titanic videl denné svetlo.
10:29
RL: So, what I did is basically I had another
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RL: Spravil som to, že som využil ďalšie
10:32
screening room experience where I was basically tracking
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skúsenosti z premietacej miestnosti, kde som sledoval,
10:35
where I was looking, or where we were looking,
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kam som sa pozeral, respektíve kam sme sa pozerali
10:37
and of course you're looking at the two people on the bow
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a, samozrejme, dívate sa na dvoch ľudí na prednej časti lode.
10:39
of the ship, and then at some point,
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Potom v istom bode
10:42
I'm changing the periphery of the shot,
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mením perifériu záberu.
10:44
I'm changing, it's becoming the rusted wreck,
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Mením ju, stáva sa zhrdzaveným vrakom
10:46
and then I would run it every day, and then I would find
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Púšťal som si to každý deň a potom som našiel
10:49
exactly the moment that I stopped looking at them
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ten konkrétny moment, kedy som sa na nich prestal pozerať
10:52
and start noticing the rest of it, and the moment
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a začal som si všímať zvyšok lode a ten moment,
10:54
my eye shifted, we just marked it to the frame.
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kedy sa moje oko pozrelo inde, sme zaznačili do obrázku.
10:57
The moment my eye shifted, I immediately started
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V momente, keď sa moje oko pozrelo inde, som ich hneď začal
10:59
to change them, so now somehow you missed
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meniť, takže teraz vám akosi ušlo,
11:01
where it started and where it stopped.
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kde sa to začalo a kde skončilo.
11:04
And so I'll just show it one more time.
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Takže vám to ukážem ešte raz.
11:06
(Music) And it's literally done by using what our brains
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(Hudba) A deje sa to doslova vďaka tomu, čo náš mozog
11:09
naturally do for us, which is, as soon as you shift
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pre nás prirodzene robí, a to je, že akonáhle presuniete
11:13
your attention, something changes, and then I left
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pozornosť, niečo sa zmení, a vtom nechám
11:15
the little scarf going, because it really wanted to be
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ten malý šál viať, pretože to mala byť
11:17
a ghostly shot, really wanted to feel like they were still
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"snímka duchov", ktorá chcela vytvárať pocit, že oni sú
11:21
on the wreck, essentially. That's where they were buried forever.
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v podstate stále na vraku. Tam, kde boli navždy pochovaní.
11:24
Or something like that. I just made that up.
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Alebo niečo také. Práve som si to vymyslel.
11:26
(Laughter)
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(Smiech)
11:29
It was, incidentally, the last time I ever saw daylight.
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Mimochodom, to bolo naposledy, čo som videl denné svetlo.
11:31
It was a long film to work on. (Laughter)
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Na tom filme bolo treba dlho pracovať. (Smiech)
11:34
Now, "Hugo" was another interesting movie, because
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Ďalej, "Hugo" bol ďalší zaujímavý film, pretože
11:36
the movie itself is about film illusions.
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film samotný je o filmových ilúziách.
11:38
It's about how our brain is tricked into seeing a persistence
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Je to o tom, ako sa náš mozog klame, aby videl neústupnosť
11:41
of vision that creates a motion picture,
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vízie, ktorá vytvára film
11:44
and one of the things I had to do is, we —
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a jedna z vecí, čo som musel urobiť je, že...
11:48
Sasha Baron Cohen is a very clever, very smart guy,
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Sasha Baron Cohen je veľmi šikovný, bystrý chlapík,
11:51
comedian, wanted to basically do an homage to the kind of
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komik a chcel vzdať akúsi poctu
11:53
the Buster Keaton sort of slapstick things, and he wanted
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komédiám Bustera Keatona a chcel,
11:55
his leg brace to get caught on a moving train.
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aby sa mu noha zachytila v pohybujúcom sa vlaku.
11:59
Very dangerous, very impossible to do, and particularly
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Veľmi nebezpečné, nemožné uskutočniť a špeciálne
12:01
on our stage, because there literally is no way to actually
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na našej scéne, pretože doslova neexistuje, aby sme
12:04
move this train, because it fits so snugly into our set.
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pohli týmto vlakom, hoci tak priliehavo pasuje do našej scény.
12:09
So let me show you the scene, and then I basically
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Takže vám ukážem tú scénu, v ktorej som potom v podstate
12:12
used the trick that was identified by Sergei Eisenstein,
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použil trik, ktorý vytvoril Sergej Eisenstein,
12:15
which is, if you have a camera that's moving with a moving
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a to, že ak máte kameru, ktorá sa pohybuje
12:18
object, what is not moving appears to be moving,
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spolu s objektom, tak to, čo sa nehýbe, sa javí ako v pohybe
12:21
and what is moving appears to be stopped,
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a to, čo sa hýbe, vyzerá, že stojí.
12:24
so what you're actually seeing now is the train is not
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Čiže to, čo teraz vlastne vidíte je, že vlak sa vôbec nehýbe,
12:27
moving at all, and what is actually moving is the floor.
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ale v skutočnosti sa hýbe podlaha.
12:32
So this is the shot. That's a little video of
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Takže toto je ten záber. To je krátky záber toho,
12:35
what you're looking at there, which is our little test,
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na čo sa tam pozeráte, čo je náš malý test.
12:38
so that's actually what you're seeing, and I thought it was
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Toto vlastne vidíte, čo sa mi zdalo ako
12:41
sort of an interesting thing, because it was, part
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zaujímavá vec, pretože to bola sčasti pocta
12:43
of the homage of the movie itself is coming up with this
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filmu samotnému, ktorý prichádza s týmto
12:46
sort of genius trick which I can't take credit for.
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geniálnym trikom, ktorého vytvorením sa nemôžem pochváliť.
12:49
I'd love to but I can't, because it was invented
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Rád by som, ale nemôžem, pretože bol vymyslený
12:51
like in 1910 or something like that, is I told Marty,
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zhruba v roku 1910. Povedal som o tom Martymu
12:56
and it's kind of one of those mind things that it's
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a je to jedna z tých záležitostí mysle, ktoré
12:58
really hard to really get until you actually see it work,
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je naozaj ťažké pochopiť, kým nevidíte, ako fungujú.
13:00
and I said, you know, what I was going to do, and he said,
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Povedal som mu, čo idem robiť a on na to:
13:03
"So, let me see if I can get this straight. The thing with the wheels?
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"Takže, pozrime sa, či to správne chápem. Tá vec s kolesami?
13:05
That doesn't move."
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Tá sa nehýbe."
13:07
(Laughter) (Applause)
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(Smiech)(Potlesk)
13:10
"And the thing without the wheels, that moves."
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A tá vec bez kolies, tá sa hýbe."
13:14
Precisely. (Laughter)
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Presne. (Smiech)
13:17
Brings me to the next, and final --
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Čo ma privádza k ďalšiemu a poslednému...
13:20
Marty's not going to see this, is he? (Laughter)
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Marty toto neuvidí, že? (Smiech)
13:24
This isn't viewed outside of -- (Laughter)
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Nedá sa to pozerať odinakiaľ... (Smiech)
13:28
The next illustration is something that, there's like
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Ďalším príkladom je niečo ako
13:32
all one shot theory. It's a very elegant way of telling a story,
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teória jedného záberu. Je to elegantný spôsob ako povedať príbeh,
13:35
especially if you're following somebody on a journey,
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hlavne ak sledujete niekoho cestu
13:37
and that journey basically tells something about
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a tá cesta skrátka hovorí niečo
13:39
their personality in a very concise way,
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o jeho osobnosti veľmi stručným spôsobom.
13:42
and what we wanted to do based on the shot in "Goodfellas,"
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Chceli sme na základe záberu z "Goodfellas",
13:44
which is one of the great shots ever,
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ktorý je jedným z najlepších záberov z filmu
13:46
a Martin Scorsese film, of basically following Henry Hill
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Martina Scorseseho, jednoducho sledovať Henryho Hilla
13:49
through what it feels like to be a gangster walk
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pomocou niečoho, čo vyzerá ako chôdza gangstra
13:51
going through the Copacabana and being treated in a special way.
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po Copacabane, ku ktorému sa správajú neobyčajným spôsobom.
13:54
He was the master of his universe, and we wanted Hugo
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Bol pánom vesmíru a chceli sme, aby z Huga
13:58
to feel the same way, so we created this shot.
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šiel rovnaký pocit, takže sme vytvorili tento záber.
14:00
(Music)
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(Hudba)
14:04
That's Hugo. (Music)
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To je Hugo. (Hudba)
14:09
And we felt that if we could basically move the camera
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Mali sme pocit, že ak by sme mohli chodiť s kamerou
14:12
with him, we would feel what it feels like to be this boy
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spolu s ním, cítili by sme sa, akoby sme boli týmto chlapcom,
14:14
who is basically the master of his universe,
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ktorý je pánom vesmíru
14:17
and his universe is, you know, behind the scenes
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a jeho vesmírom je zákulisie,
14:20
in the bowels of this particular train station
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vnútrajšok tejto konkrétnej vlakovej stanice,
14:22
that only he can actually navigate through
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v ktorom sa dokáže orientovať iba on.
14:24
and do it this way, and we had to make it feel that
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Aby sme to dosiahli, museli sme docieliť,
14:27
this is his normal, everyday sort of life,
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aby to vyznelo ako normálny, každodenný život,
14:29
so the idea of doing it as one shot was very important,
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takže ten nápad s jedinou klapkou bol veľmi dôležitý
14:32
and of course, in shooting in 3D, which is basically
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a samozrejme, natáčali sme v 3D, čo je v podstate
14:34
it's a huge camera that's hanging off of a giant stick,
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obrovská kamera, ktorá visí na veľkej tyči,
14:38
so to recreate a steadycam shot was the task,
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čiže sme mali za úlohu vytvoriť záber ako zo statickej kamery,
14:42
and make it feel kind of like what the reaction you got
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ktorý by vo vás vyvolal reakciu, ako keby
14:45
when you saw the "Goodfellas" shot.
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ste videli záber z "Goodfellas".
14:47
So what you're now going to see is how we actually did it.
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Teraz uvidíte, ako sme to vlastne spravili.
14:50
It's actually five separate sets shot at five different times
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V skutočnosti je to päť scén natočených v piatych rôznych chvíľach
14:54
with two different boys.
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s dvoma rôznymi chlapcami.
14:55
The one on the left is where the shot ends,
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Naľavo je záber, ktorý končí
14:57
and the shot on the right is where it takes over,
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a záber napravo je ten, ktorý sa prelína.
15:02
and now we switch boys, so it went from Asa Butterfield,
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Teraz vymeníme chlapcov, takže sme prešli od Asu Butterfielda,
15:06
who's the star of the show, to his stand-in. (Music)
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ktorý je hviezdou filmu, k jeho náhradníkovi. (Hudba)
15:10
I wouldn't say his stunt double. There's a crazy rig
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Nenazval by som ho dablérom. Tu je šialená veža,
15:12
that we built for this. (Music)
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ktorú sme kvôli tomu vyrobili. (Hudba)
15:14
And so this is, and now this is set number three
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To by sme mali a teraz je tu tretia scéna,
15:18
we're into, and then we're going to go into, basically
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do ktorej sa presúvame, a potom ďalej do...
15:22
the very last moment of the shot is actually
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Celkom posledným momentom záberu je vlastne
15:25
the steadycam shot. Everything else was shot on cranes
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záber statickej kamery. Všetko ostatné sa natáčalo na žeriavoch
15:27
and various things like that, and it literally was done
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a podobných zariadeniach a doslova sa to natáčalo
15:29
over five different sets, two different boys, different times,
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na piatich rôznych scénach, s dvoma rôznymi chlapcami, v rôznych chvíľach
15:32
and it all had to feel like it was all one shot, and what was
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a celé to muselo vytvárať pocit, že je to jeden záber. Pre mňa bolo
15:35
sort of great for me was it was probably
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úžasné práve to, že to bol asi
15:40
the best-reviewed shot I've ever worked on,
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najlepšie hodnotený záber, na akom som kedy pracoval
15:42
and, you know, I was kind of proud of it when I was done,
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a bol som na to aj trochu hrdý, keď to bolo hotové.
15:45
which is, you should never really be proud of stuff, I guess.
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Myslím si, že by ste nikdy nemali byť hrdí na veci.
15:50
So I was kind of proud of it, and I went to a friend of mine,
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Čiže som bol na to viac-menej hrdý, šiel som za priateľom
15:53
and said, "You know, this is, you know, kind of
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a povedal som mu: "Vieš, toto je asi
15:55
the best-reviewed shot I've ever worked on.
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najlepšie hodnotený záber, na akom som kedy pracoval.
15:56
What do you think was the reason?"
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Čo je podľa teba dôvodom?"
15:59
And he said, "Because no one knows
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A on odpovedal: "Lebo nikto nevie,
16:01
you had anything to do with it."
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že s tým máš niečo dočinenia."
16:03
(Laughter)
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(Smiech)
16:06
So, all I can say is, thank you,
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nuž, môžem vám už len poďakovať
16:09
and that's my presentation for you. (Applause)
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a to bola moja prezentácia pre vás. (Potlesk)
16:15
(Applause)
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(Potlesk)
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