Rob Legato: The art of creating awe

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Translator: Joseph Geni Reviewer: Morton Bast
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Traducător: Alma Ghita Corector: Ariana Bleau Lugo
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I worked on a film called "Apollo 13,"
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Am lucrat la filmul „Apollo 13” şi am descoperit ceva
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and when I worked on this film, I discovered something
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about how our brains work, and how our brains work
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legat de cum funcţionează creierul nostru.
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is that, when we're sort of infused with
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Funcţionează astfel: când suntem plini de entuziasm, uimire sau afecţiune,
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either enthusiasm or awe or fondness or whatever,
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it changes and alters our perception of things.
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asta ne schimbă percepția asupra lucrurilor.
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It changes what we see. It changes what we remember.
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Schimbă ce vedem şi ce ne amintim.
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And as an experiment, because I dauntingly create
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Ca experiment, pentru că mi-am dat sarcina descurajatoare
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a task for myself of recreating a Saturn V launch
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de a recrea lansarea rachetei Saturn V
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for this particular movie, because I put it out there,
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pentru acest film, pentru că am îndrăznit,
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I felt a little nervous about it, so I need to do an experiment
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am avut emoţii, aşa că aveam nevoie de un experiment,
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and bring a group of people like this in a projection room
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să pun un grup de oameni într-o cameră de proiecţii
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and play this stock footage, and when I played this
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şi să rulez acest material de arhivă.
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stock footage, I simply wanted to find out
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Am vrut pur şi simplu să aflu
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what people remembered, what was memorable about it?
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ce îşi amintesc oamenii, ce a fost memorabil?
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What should I actually try to replicate?
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Ce ar trebui să reproduc?
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What should I try to emulate to some degree?
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Ce ar trebui să imit?
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So this is the footage that I was showing everybody.
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Acesta e materialul pe care l-am arătat.
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And what I discovered is, because of the nature
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Am descoperit că, din cauza naturii
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of the footage and the fact that we're doing this film,
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materialului şi a faptului că făceam acest film,
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there was an emotion that was built into it
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totul era emoţionant,
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and our collective memories of what this launch meant to us
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iar amintirile noastre legate de semnificaţia lansării pentru noi
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and all these various things.
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şi toate aceste lucruri...
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When I showed it, and I asked, immediately after
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După vizionare, când i-am întrebat
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the screening was over, what they thought of it,
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imediat după proiecţie ce credeau,
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what was your memorable shots, they changed them.
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care au fost scenele memorabile, au numit altele.
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They were -- had camera moves on them.
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Se gândeau la mişcările camerei.
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They had all kinds of things. Shots were combined,
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Au spus diferite lucruri.
Cadrele erau combinate, iar eu eram curios,
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and I was just really curious, I mean, what the hell
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adică la ce naiba v-aţi uitat acum câteva minute
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were you looking at just a few minutes ago
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and how come, how'd you come up with this sort of description?
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şi de unde aţi scos descrierea asta?
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And what I discovered is, what I should do is not actually
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Am descoperit că nu ar trebui
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replicate what they saw, is replicate what they remembered.
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să copiez ce au văzut, ci ce îşi amintesc.
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So this is our footage of the launch, based on, basically,
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Aceasta e filmarea cu lansarea,
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taking notes, asking people what they thought, and then
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creată folosind înscrieri, întrebând oamenii ce cred.
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the combination of all the different shots and all
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Combinaţia de cadre diferite
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the different things put together created their sort of
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şi toate acestea puse laolaltă au creat
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collective consciousness of what they remembered
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conştientul lor colectiv, cum îşi amintesc că arăta,
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it looked like, but not what it really looked like.
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nu cum arăta de fapt.
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So this is what we created for "Apollo 13."
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Asta am creat pentru „Apollo 13”.
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(Launch noises)
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(Zgomote de lansare)
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So literally what you're seeing now is the confluence
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Ce vedeţi acum e combinația
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of a bunch of different people, a bunch of different memories,
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dintre diferiți oameni, amintiri,
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including my own, of taking a little bit of liberty
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inclusiv a mea,
şi o tratare mai liberă a subiectului.
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with the subject matter.
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I basically shot everything with short lenses,
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Am filmat tot cu obiective scurte,
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which means that you're very close to the action,
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ca să pară că eşti aproape de acţiune,
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but framed it very similarly to the long lens shots
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dar cadrele sunt similare celor filmate cu obiective lungi,
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which gives you a sense of distance, so I was basically
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care îţi dau senzația de distanţă,
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was setting up something that would remind you
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aşa că practic făceam ceva care să-ţi amintească
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of something you haven't really quite seen before. (Music)
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de ceva ce nu mai văzusei înainte.
(Muzică)
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And then I'm going to show you exactly what it is
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Vă voi arăta apoi la ce anume aţi reacţionat de fapt.
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that you were reacting to when you were reacting to it.
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(Music)
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(Muzică)
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Tom Hanks: Hello, Houston, this is Odyssey.
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Tom Hanks: Salut, Houston, aici Odyssey.
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It's good to see you again. (Cheers) (Music)
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Ne bucurăm să vă vedem din nou.
(Aclamaţii) (Muzică)
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Rob Legato: I pretend they're clapping for me.
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Rob Legato: Îmi imaginez că mă aplaudă pe mine.
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(Laughter)
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(Râsete)
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So now I'm in a parking lot. Basically it's a tin can,
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Acum sunt într-o parcare.
E un spaţiu mic, iar eu recreez lansarea
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and I'm basically recreating the launch with
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fire extinguishers, fire, I have wax that I threw
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cu extinctoare, foc, am ceară pe care o arunc în faţa obiectivului
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in front of the lens to look like ice, and so basically
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pentru a arăta ca gheaţa.
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if you believed any of the stuff that I just showed you,
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Dacă ai crezut chestiile pe care ţi le-am arătat,
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what you were reacting to, what you're emoting to,
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toate la care ai reacţionat, care te-au emoţionat
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is something that's a total falsehood, and I found that
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sunt complet false.
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really kind of fascinating.
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Găsesc asta fascinant.
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And in this particular case, this is the climax of the movie,
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În cazul ăsta, aici e punctul culminant al filmului.
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and, you know, the weight of achieving it was simply
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şi greutatea a constat în luarea modelului
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take a model, throw it out of a helicopter, and shoot it.
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aruncarea lui din elicopter şi filmarea lui.
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And that's simply what I did.
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Asta-i tot ce am făcut.
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That's me shooting, and I'm a fairly mediocre operator,
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Aici sunt eu filmând, sunt un operator mediocru,
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so I got that nice sense of verisimilitude, of a kind of,
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am obţinut impresia de verosimil
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you know, following the rocket all the way down,
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urmărind racheta până jos
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and giving that little sort of edge, I was desperately
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şi dând impresia de limită, încercam cu disperare
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trying to keep it in frame. So then I come up to the next thing.
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să ţin totul în cadru. Apoi am ajuns la următorul lucru.
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We had a NASA consultant who was actually an astronaut,
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Am avut un consultant NASA care era astronaut,
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who was actually on some of the missions, of Apollo 15,
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fusese în câteva misiuni Apollo 15.
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and he was there to basically double check my science.
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Era acolo pentru a verifica aspectele tehnice.
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And, I guess somebody thought they needed to do that.
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Cineva s-a gândit că e nevoie de asta.
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(Laughter)
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(Râsete)
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I don't know why, but they thought they did.
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Nu ştiu de ce, dar s-au gândit.
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So we were, he's a hero, he's an astronaut, and
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El, erou, astronaut,
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we're all sort of excited, and, you know, I gave myself
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noi toţi entuziasmaţi, iar eu mi-am permis
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the liberty of saying, you know, some of the shots I did
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să spun că unele dintre cadre
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didn't really suck that bad.
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nu sunt chiar atât de proaste.
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And so maybe, you know, we were feeling kind of a little
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Ne simţeam destul de bine
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good about it, so I brought him in here, and he needed
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în legătură cu asta, aşa că l-am adus acolo,
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to really check and see what we were doing,
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el trebuia să verifice ce facem
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and basically give us our A plus report card,
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şi să ne dea nota zece.
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and so I showed him some shots we were working on,
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I-am arătat câteva cadre la care lucram
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and waiting for the reaction that you hope for,
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şi am aşteptat reacţia la care speram.
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which is what I got. (Music) (Launch noises)
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Asta am primit. (Muzică) (Zgomote de lansare)
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So I showed him these two shots,
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I-am arătat aceste două cadre,
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and then he basically told me what he thought.
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apoi el mi-a spus cum i s-a părut.
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("That's wrong") (Laughter)
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(„E greşit.”) (Râsete)
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Okay. (Laughter)
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OK. (Râsete)
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It's what you dream about.
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La asta visezi.
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(Laughter)
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(Râsete)
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So what I got from him is, he turned to me and said,
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S-a întors spre mine şi mi-a zis
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"You would never, ever design a rocket like that.
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„O rachetă nu ar fi concepută niciodată aşa.
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You would never have a rocket go up
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Nu ar putea sa urce
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while the gantry arms are going out. Can you imagine
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în timp ce braţele de susţinere cad. Îţi imaginezi
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the tragedy that could possibly happen with that?
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ce tragedie s-ar putea întâmpla?
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You would never, ever design a rocket like that."
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Nu se proiectează o racheta aşa.”
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And he was looking at me. It's like, Yeah, I don't know
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Se uita la mine. Nu ştiu dacă ai observat,
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if you noticed, but I'm the guy out in the parking lot
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dar eu sunt tipul din parcare
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recreating one of America's finest moments with
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ce recreează unul dintre cele mai impresionante momente
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fire extinguishers.
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cu extinctoare.
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(Laughter)
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(Râsete)
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And I'm not going to argue with you. You're an astronaut,
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Nu o să mă cert cu tine. Eşti astronaut,
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a hero, and I'm from New Jersey, so --
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un erou, iar eu sunt din New Jersey, aşa că...
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(Laughter)
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(Râsete)
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I'm just going to show you some footage.
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O să-ţi arăt o filmare.
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I'm just going to show you some footage, and tell me what you think.
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O să-ţi arăt o filmare iar tu să-mi spui ce crezi.
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And then I did kind of get the reaction I was hoping for.
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Atunci am obţinut reacţia pe care o doream.
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So I showed him this, and this is actual footage
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I-am arătat asta. Este materialul original
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that he was on. This is Apollo 15. This was his mission.
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în care apărea el. Acesta e Apollo 15. Asta era misiunea lui.
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So I showed him this, and the reaction I got was interesting.
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I-am arătat asta şi reacţia lui a fost interesantă.
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("That's wrong too.") (Laughter)
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(„Şi asta e greşită.”) (Râsete)
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So, and what happened was, I mean, what I sort of intuned
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Ceea ce am intuit din asta
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in that is that he remembered it differently.
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e că el îşi amintea totul diferit.
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He remembered that was a perfectly safe sort of gantry
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Îşi amintea de un sistem de schele perfect sigur,
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system, perfectly safe rocket launch, because he's sitting
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de o lansare în perfectă siguranţă, deoarece el stătea
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in a rocket that has, like, a hundred thousand pounds
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într-o rachetă care avea o tracţiune de 45.000 de kg,
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of thrust, built by the lowest bidder.
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construită de cel care a oferit cel mai puţin.
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He was hoping it was going to work out okay.
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Spera să funcţioneze.
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(Laughter) (Applause)
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(Râsete) (Aplauze)
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So he twisted his memory around.
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Îşi amintea pe dos.
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Now, Ron Howard ran into Buzz Aldrin, who was not
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Ron Howard s-a întâlnit cu Buzz Aldrin, care nu era
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on the movie, so he had no idea that we were faking
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la filmări, aşa că nu ştia că noi trucaserăm
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any of this footage, and he just responded
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materialul filmat, aşa că a răspuns
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as he would respond, and I'll run this.
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cum mă aşteptam. O să pun materialul.
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Ron Howard: Buzz Aldrin came up to me
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Ron Howard: Buzz Aldrin a venit la mine
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and said, "Hey, that launch footage, I saw some shots
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şi mi-a zis: „Hei, am văzut nişte cadre din filmarea lansării
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I'd never seen before. Did you guys, what vault did you find
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pentru prima dată. În ce pivniţă le-aţi găsit?
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that stuff in?" And I said, "Well, no vault, Buzz,
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I-am zis: Nicio pivniţă, Buzz,
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we generated all that from scratch."
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am generat totul din nimic.
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And he said, "Huh, that's pretty good. Can we use it?"
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A zis: E bun. Îl putem folosi?
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(Explosion) ("Sure") (Laughter)
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(Explozie) (Sigur!) (Râsete)
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RL: I think he's a great American.
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RL: Cred că e un mare american.
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(Laughter)
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(Râsete)
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So, "Titanic" was, if you don't know the story,
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„Titanicul”, dacă nu ştiaţi povestea,
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doesn't end well.
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nu se sfârşeşte bine.
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(Laughter)
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(Râsete)
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Jim Cameron actually photographed the real Titanic.
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Jim Cameron a fotografiat adevăratul Titanic.
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So he basically set up, or basically shattered
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Practic a anulat suspendarea
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the suspension of disbelief, because what he photographed
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neîncrederii, deoarece a fotografiat
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was the real thing, a Mir sub going down, or actually
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obiectul real cu un submersibil Mir,
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two Mir subs going down to the real wreck,
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de fapt, două, care s-au scufundat pînă la epava reală,
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and he created this very haunting footage.
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iar el a creat acest material filmat foarte tulburător.
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It's really beautiful, and it conjures up all these
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Este frumos şi stârneşte
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various different emotions, but he couldn't photograph
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atâtea emoţii, însă n-a putut fotografia tot.
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everything, and to tell the story,
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Pentru a spune povestea,
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I had to fill in the gaps, which is now rather daunting,
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a trebuit să umplu golurile, ceea ce e cam înfricoşător,
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because now I have to recreate back to back
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pentru că trebuia să recreez unul după altul
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what really happened and I had, I'm the only one
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evenimentele de atunci şi eram singurul
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who could really blow it at that point.
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care putea să rateze totul în acel moment.
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So this is the footage he photographed,
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Ăsta e materialul fotografiat de Cameron,
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and it was pretty moving and pretty awe-inspiring.
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emoţionant şi uluitor.
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So I'm going to just let it run, so you kind of absorb
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O să-l las să ruleze ca să puteţi absorbi
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this sort of thing, and I'll describe my sort of reactions
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detaliile şi vă voi descrie reacţiile mele
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when I was looking at it for the very first time.
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când l-am văzut prima dată.
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I got the feeling that my brain wanted to basically
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Am simţit cum creierul meu vroia
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see it come back to life.
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să vadă totul revenit la viaţă.
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I automatically wanted to see this ship,
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Am vrut automat să văd
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this magnificent ship, basically in all its glory,
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acest vas magnific în culmea gloriei
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and conversely, I wanted to see it not in all its glory,
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şi invers am vrut să nu-l văd în culmea gloriei,
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basically go back to what it looks like.
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adică să mă întorc la cum arată.
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So I conjured up an effect that I'm later going to show you
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Am inventat un efect pe care o să vi-l arăt,
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what I tried to do, which is kind of the heart of the movie,
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pe care l-am încercat şi care-i inima filmului pentru mine.
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for me, and so that's why I wanted to do the movie,
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De asta am vrut să fac filmul,
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that's why I wanted to create the sort of things I created.
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să creez lucrurile pe care le-am creat.
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And I'll show you, you know, another thing that I found
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O să vă arăt. Un alt lucru interesant
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interesting is what we really were emoting to
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este ce emoţii exprimă
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when you take a look at it.
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când te uiţi la el.
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So here's the behind the scenes, a couple of little shots here.
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Iată scene neprelucrate, câteva cadre.
08:28
So, when you saw my footage,
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Când aţi văzut materialul,
08:30
you were seeing this: basically, a bunch of guys
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aşi văzut de fapt asta: nişte tipi
08:33
flipping a ship upside down, and the little Mir subs
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care răsturnau un vas şi micuţele submersibile Mir
08:36
are actually about the size of small footballs,
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care sunt de mărimea unor mingi de fotbal
08:38
and shot in smoke.
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erau filmate în semi-obscuritate.
08:40
Jim went three miles went down, and I went about
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Jim a coborât trei mile, iar eu m-am depărtat
08:43
three miles away from the studio
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cu vreo trei mile de studioul de filmare
08:44
and photographed this in a garage.
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şi am fotografiat asta într-un garaj.
08:47
And so, but what you're emoting to, or what you're looking
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Emoţiile pe care le exprimi şi lucrurile la care te uiţi
08:49
at, had the same feeling, the same haunting quality,
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aveau aceeaşi încărcătură, aceeaşi esenţă obsedantă
08:52
that Jim's footage had, so I found it so fascinating
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pe care o are materialul filmat de Jim şi mi s-a părut atât de fascinant
08:55
that our brains sort of, once you believe something's real,
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cum creierele noastre, odată ce credem că ceva e real,
09:00
you transfer everything that you feel about it,
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transferă tot ce simţim despre asta,
09:03
this quality you have, and it's totally artificial.
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această însuşire, şi este total artificial.
09:05
It's totally make-believe, yet it's not to you,
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Este un truc, deşi pentru tine nu pare.
09:09
and I found that that was a very interesting thing
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Am descoperit că asta e un lucru interesant
09:11
to explore and use, and it caused me to create the next
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de explorat şi folosit şi m-a dus la următorul
09:14
effect that I'll show you, which is
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efect pe care o să vi-l arăt,
09:15
this sort of magic transition, and all I was really attempting
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un fel de tranziţie magică, încercam practic
09:19
to do is basically have the audience cue the effect,
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să fac audienţa să lege efectul,
09:22
so it became a seamless experience for them,
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aşa că pentru ei a devenit o experienţă fluidă,
09:25
that I wasn't showing you my sort of interpretation,
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nu arătam interpretarea mea,
09:27
I was showing you what you wanted to see.
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ci vă arătam ce vroiaţi să vedeţi.
09:30
And the very next shot, right after this --
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Următorul cadru, după ăsta -
09:37
So you can see what I was doing.
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Vedeţi ce am făcut.
09:39
So basically, if there's two subs in the same shot,
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Dacă sunt două submersibile în acelaşi cadru,
09:41
I shot it, because where's the camera coming from?
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le-am filmat, căci altfel de unde ar veni camera?
09:43
And when Jim shot it, it was only one sub,
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Când a filmat Jim, era doar un submarin,
09:45
because he was photographing from the other,
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deoarece el fotografia din celălalt.
09:46
and I don't remember if I did this or Jim did this.
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Nu-mi mai amintesc dacă eu sau Jim am făcut asta.
09:48
I'll give it to Jim, because he could use the pat on the back.
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O să zic că Jim, pentru că are nevoie de încurajări.
09:51
(Laughter)
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(Râsete)
09:58
Okay. So now the Titanic transition.
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OK. Acum tranziţia pentru Titanic.
10:00
So this is what I was referring to where I wanted to basically
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La asta mă refeream când am vrut
10:03
magically transplant from one state of the Titanic
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să trec Titanicul, ca prin magie, dintr-o stare
10:06
to the other. So I'll just play the shot once. (Music)
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în alta. O să rulez scena o dată.
10:10
(Music)
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(Muzică)
10:13
And what I was hoping for is that it just melts in front of you.
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Am vrut să se topească practic în faţa voastră.
10:25
Gloria Stuart: That was the last time Titanic ever saw daylight.
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Gloria Stuart: A fost ultima dată când Titanicul a văzut lumina zilei.
10:29
RL: So, what I did is basically I had another
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RL: Am avut, de fapt,
10:32
screening room experience where I was basically tracking
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un test în sala de proiecţii unde am urmărit
10:35
where I was looking, or where we were looking,
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locul unde mă uitam sau unde ne uitam
10:37
and of course you're looking at the two people on the bow
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şi bineînţeles privim cei doi oameni de pe etravă
10:39
of the ship, and then at some point,
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şi la un moment dat
10:42
I'm changing the periphery of the shot,
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schimb periferia cadrului
10:44
I'm changing, it's becoming the rusted wreck,
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şi devine o navă ruginită.
10:46
and then I would run it every day, and then I would find
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Am rulat asta în fiecare zi şi am descoperit
10:49
exactly the moment that I stopped looking at them
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momentul precis în care încetez să-i privesc
10:52
and start noticing the rest of it, and the moment
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şi încep să observ restul şi momentul
10:54
my eye shifted, we just marked it to the frame.
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în care privirea s-a mutat a fost marcat în cadru.
10:57
The moment my eye shifted, I immediately started
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În momentul mutării privirii, am început imediat
10:59
to change them, so now somehow you missed
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să-i modific, aşa că acum nu-ţi dai seama
11:01
where it started and where it stopped.
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când începe şi când se termină.
11:04
And so I'll just show it one more time.
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Vă mai arăt o dată.
11:06
(Music) And it's literally done by using what our brains
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(Muzică) Practic asta se face cu ajutorul a ceea ce creierul
11:09
naturally do for us, which is, as soon as you shift
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face pentru noi în mod natural, imediat ce muţi
11:13
your attention, something changes, and then I left
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centrul atenţiei, ceva se schimbă.
11:15
the little scarf going, because it really wanted to be
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Am lăsat eşarfa, pentru că trebuia să fie
11:17
a ghostly shot, really wanted to feel like they were still
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un cadru fantomatic, de parcă erau încă pe epavă.
11:21
on the wreck, essentially. That's where they were buried forever.
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Acolo au fost îngropaţi pentru totdeauna.
11:24
Or something like that. I just made that up.
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Sau ceva de genul ăsta. Am inventat asta.
11:26
(Laughter)
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(Râsete)
11:29
It was, incidentally, the last time I ever saw daylight.
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Întâmplător, a fost ultima dată când am văzut lumina zilei.
11:31
It was a long film to work on. (Laughter)
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A fost mult de lucru la film. (Râsete)
11:34
Now, "Hugo" was another interesting movie, because
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„Hugo” e un alt film interesant,
11:36
the movie itself is about film illusions.
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deoarece filmul în sine e despre iluzii.
11:38
It's about how our brain is tricked into seeing a persistence
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E modul în care creierul e păcălit să vadă o persistenţă
11:41
of vision that creates a motion picture,
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de imagine care creează un film.
11:44
and one of the things I had to do is, we —
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Ceea ce am făcut --
11:48
Sasha Baron Cohen is a very clever, very smart guy,
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Sasha Baron Cohen este un actor comic foarte inteligent.
11:51
comedian, wanted to basically do an homage to the kind of
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El a vrut să aducă un omagiu
11:53
the Buster Keaton sort of slapstick things, and he wanted
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farselor de tipul Buster Keaton şi a vrut
11:55
his leg brace to get caught on a moving train.
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ca proteza piciorului să-i rămână prinsă de un tren în mişcare.
11:59
Very dangerous, very impossible to do, and particularly
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Foarte periculos, imposibil de făcut,
12:01
on our stage, because there literally is no way to actually
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mai ales în studio, pentru că nu aveam
12:04
move this train, because it fits so snugly into our set.
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cum să mişcăm trenul care abia încăpea pe platou.
12:09
So let me show you the scene, and then I basically
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Să vă arăt scena.
12:12
used the trick that was identified by Sergei Eisenstein,
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Am folosit trucul lui Serghei Eisenstein.
12:15
which is, if you have a camera that's moving with a moving
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Dacă ai o cameră ce se mişcă odată cu un obiect în mişcare,
12:18
object, what is not moving appears to be moving,
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ce nu se mişcă apare ca şi cum s-ar mişca
12:21
and what is moving appears to be stopped,
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şi ceea ce se mişcă apare ca stând pe loc,
12:24
so what you're actually seeing now is the train is not
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aşa că acum vedeţi trenul
12:27
moving at all, and what is actually moving is the floor.
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care nu se mişcă deloc, doar podeaua se mişcă.
12:32
So this is the shot. That's a little video of
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Ăsta e cadrul. Şi un mic clip
12:35
what you're looking at there, which is our little test,
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cu ce vedeţi aici, e testul nostru,
12:38
so that's actually what you're seeing, and I thought it was
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deci asta se vede de fapt. M-am gândit
12:41
sort of an interesting thing, because it was, part
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că e interesant, pentru că parţial
12:43
of the homage of the movie itself is coming up with this
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omagiul adus de film este inventarea
12:46
sort of genius trick which I can't take credit for.
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acestui truc genial care nu îmi aparţine.
12:49
I'd love to but I can't, because it was invented
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Mi-ar plăcea, însă el a fost inventat
12:51
like in 1910 or something like that, is I told Marty,
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în 1910 sau aşa ceva. I-am spus lui Marty -
12:56
and it's kind of one of those mind things that it's
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e unul dintre lucrurile
12:58
really hard to really get until you actually see it work,
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greu de înţeles până nu le vezi funcţionând -
13:00
and I said, you know, what I was going to do, and he said,
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i-am spus ce vroiam să fac şi el a zis
13:03
"So, let me see if I can get this straight. The thing with the wheels?
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„Să văd dacă am înţeles. Chestia cu roţi?
13:05
That doesn't move."
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Aia nu se mişcă.”
13:07
(Laughter) (Applause)
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(Râsete) (Aplauze)
13:10
"And the thing without the wheels, that moves."
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„Şi chestia fără roţi, aia se mişcă.”
13:14
Precisely. (Laughter)
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Exact. (Râsete)
13:17
Brings me to the next, and final --
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Ceea ce mă aduce la următoarea şi ultima--
13:20
Marty's not going to see this, is he? (Laughter)
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Marty nu o să vadă asta, nu? (Râsete)
13:24
This isn't viewed outside of -- (Laughter)
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Nu se transmite în afară -- (Râsete)
13:28
The next illustration is something that, there's like
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Următorul exemplu e ceva care exemplifică
13:32
all one shot theory. It's a very elegant way of telling a story,
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teoria cadrului unic. Este un mod elegant de a povesti,
13:35
especially if you're following somebody on a journey,
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mai ales dacă urmezi pe cineva într-o călătorie
13:37
and that journey basically tells something about
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şi călătoria spune ceva
13:39
their personality in a very concise way,
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despre personalitatea sa într-un mod concis.
13:42
and what we wanted to do based on the shot in "Goodfellas,"
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Am vrut să facem ceva bazat pe cadrul din „Goodfellas”,
13:44
which is one of the great shots ever,
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care e unul dintre cele mai bune,
13:46
a Martin Scorsese film, of basically following Henry Hill
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un film de Martin Scorsese, când camera îl urmăreşte pe Henry Hill
13:49
through what it feels like to be a gangster walk
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pe parcursul unei plimbări de gangster
13:51
going through the Copacabana and being treated in a special way.
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prin Copacabana, având parte de un tratament special.
13:54
He was the master of his universe, and we wanted Hugo
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Era stăpânul universului şi am vrut să-l facem pe Hugo
13:58
to feel the same way, so we created this shot.
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să se simtă la fel, aşa că am creat acest cadru.
14:00
(Music)
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(Muzică)
14:04
That's Hugo. (Music)
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Acesta e Hugo.
14:09
And we felt that if we could basically move the camera
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Ne-am gândit că dacă mişcăm camera
14:12
with him, we would feel what it feels like to be this boy
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odată cu el, am simţi ce înseamnă să fii acest băiat
14:14
who is basically the master of his universe,
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care e stăpânul universului său
14:17
and his universe is, you know, behind the scenes
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şi universul lui e în culise,
14:20
in the bowels of this particular train station
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în măruntaiele acestei gări
14:22
that only he can actually navigate through
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prin care doar el se poate deplasa
14:24
and do it this way, and we had to make it feel that
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şi a trebuit să transmitem sentimentul
14:27
this is his normal, everyday sort of life,
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că ăsta e firescul lui, viaţa lui de zi cu zi,
14:29
so the idea of doing it as one shot was very important,
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aşa că ideea de a trage totul într-o singură scenă a fost foarte importantă.
14:32
and of course, in shooting in 3D, which is basically
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Am filmat în 3D,
14:34
it's a huge camera that's hanging off of a giant stick,
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o cameră imensă care atârnă de un stâlp imens,
14:38
so to recreate a steadycam shot was the task,
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aşa că scopul era recrearea unui cadru filmat cu amortizarea şocurilor
14:42
and make it feel kind of like what the reaction you got
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şi să obţinem reacţia pe care o avem
14:45
when you saw the "Goodfellas" shot.
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când privim cadrul din „Goodfellas”.
14:47
So what you're now going to see is how we actually did it.
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Acum veţi vedea cum am obţinut asta.
14:50
It's actually five separate sets shot at five different times
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Sunt cinci decoruri separate filmate la cinci intervale diferite
14:54
with two different boys.
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cu doi băieţi diferiţi.
14:55
The one on the left is where the shot ends,
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Cel din stânga e unde se termină cadrul,
14:57
and the shot on the right is where it takes over,
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cel din dreapta arată de unde se preia.
15:02
and now we switch boys, so it went from Asa Butterfield,
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Am schimbat băieţii. Am trecut de la Asa Butterfield,
15:06
who's the star of the show, to his stand-in. (Music)
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care e starul filmului, la dublura sa. (Muzică)
15:10
I wouldn't say his stunt double. There's a crazy rig
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N-aş spune cascador. Iată o instalaţie nebunească
15:12
that we built for this. (Music)
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construită pentru asta. (Muzică)
15:14
And so this is, and now this is set number three
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Acesta este al treilea decor
15:18
we're into, and then we're going to go into, basically
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şi apoi întrăm în altul.
15:22
the very last moment of the shot is actually
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Ultimul moment al scenei e filmat cu amortizor.
15:25
the steadycam shot. Everything else was shot on cranes
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Restul a fost filmat de pe macarale
15:27
and various things like that, and it literally was done
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şi chestii asemănătoare, pe parcursul
15:29
over five different sets, two different boys, different times,
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a cinci decoruri diferite, cu doi băieţi diferiţi, temporizări diferite
15:32
and it all had to feel like it was all one shot, and what was
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şi totul trebuia să pară ca făcând parte dintr-un singur cadru.
15:35
sort of great for me was it was probably
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Pentru mine a fost minunat,
15:40
the best-reviewed shot I've ever worked on,
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fiind cel mai apreciat cadru la care am lucrat.
15:42
and, you know, I was kind of proud of it when I was done,
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Am fost mândru când am terminat.
15:45
which is, you should never really be proud of stuff, I guess.
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Presupun că n-ar trebui să ne mândrim cu lucruri.
15:50
So I was kind of proud of it, and I went to a friend of mine,
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Am fost destul de mândru. M-am dus la un prieten
15:53
and said, "You know, this is, you know, kind of
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şi i-am spus: Ştii, ăsta e cadrul
15:55
the best-reviewed shot I've ever worked on.
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cel mai apreciat dintre toate.
15:56
What do you think was the reason?"
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Care crezi că a fost motivul?
15:59
And he said, "Because no one knows
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El a zis: Pentru că nimeni nu ştie
16:01
you had anything to do with it."
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că ai avut vreo legătură cu el.
16:03
(Laughter)
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(Râsete)
16:06
So, all I can say is, thank you,
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Tot ce pot spune e că vă mulţumesc
16:09
and that's my presentation for you. (Applause)
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şi asta a fost prezentarea mea pentru voi. (Aplauze)
16:15
(Applause)
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(Aplauze)
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