Timothy Prestero: Design for people, not awards

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Translator: Timothy Covell Reviewer: Morton Bast
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Prevodilac: Tereza Ivanovic Lektor: Tatjana Jevdjic
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I've got a great idea that's going to change the world.
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Imam sjajnu ideju koja će promeniti svet.
Fantastična je, zapanjićete se.
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It's fantastic, it's going to blow your mind.
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It's my beautiful baby.
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To je moja divna beba.
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Here's the thing: everybody loves a beautiful baby.
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Evo, svako voli lepu bebu.
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I mean, I was a beautiful baby.
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I ja sam bio lepa beba.
Tu smo ja i moj tata par dana posle mog rođenja.
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Here's me and my dad a couple days after I was born.
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So in the world of product design,
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U svetu dizajniranja proizvoda
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the beautiful baby's like the concept car.
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lepa beba je kao prototip.
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It's the knockout.
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Nešto što je izuzetno lepo.
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You see it and you go, "Oh, my God. I'd buy that in a second!"
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Ugledate i kažete: "Bože, ovo bih kupio istog momenta!"
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So why is it that this year's new cars
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Zašto automobili ove godine
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look pretty much exactly like last year's new cars?
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izgledaju skoro isto kao prošlogodišnji novi automobili?
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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What went wrong between the design studio and the factory?
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Šta je krenulo loše između studija za dizajn i fabrike?
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Today, I don't want to talk about beautiful babies,
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Danas ne želim da pričam o divnim bebama,
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I want to talk about the awkward adolescence of design --
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želim da pričam o nezgodnoj adolescenciji dizajniranja -
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those sort of dorky teenage years
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o onim šašavim tinejdžerskim godinama
kada pokušavate da shvatite kako funkcioniše svet.
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where you're trying to figure out how the world works.
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01:01
I'm going to start with an example
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Počeću primerom jednog posla koji smo radili za zdravlje novorođenčadi.
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from some work that we did on newborn health.
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So here's a problem:
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Evo problema:
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four million babies around the world, mostly in developing countries,
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četiri miliona beba u svetu,
uglavnom u zemljama u razvoju,
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die every year before their first birthday,
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umire svake godine pre svog prvog rođendana,
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even before their first month of life.
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čak i pre navršenih mesec dana života.
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It turns out half of those kids,
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Ispada da bi polovina ove dece ili oko 1,8 miliona novorođenih u svetu,
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or about 1.8 million newborns around the world,
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would make it if you could just keep them warm
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preživelo, samo da ste uspeli da im održavate toplotu
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for the first three days, maybe the first week.
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u prva tri dana, možda u prvoj nedelji.
Ovo je odeljenje za intenzivnu negu novorođenih u gradu Katmanduu, u Nepalu.
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So this is a newborn intensive care unit in Kathmandu, Nepal.
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All of these kids in blankets belong in incubators --
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Sva ova deca u ćebadima bi trebalo da su u inkubatoru - ovako nečemu.
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something like this.
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Ovo je poklonjen japanski Atom inkubator
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This is a donated Japanese Atom incubator
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that we found in a NICU in Kathmandu.
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koji smo našli na odeljenju intenzivne nege u Katmanduu.
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This is what we want.
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Evo šta želimo.
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Probably what happened is a hospital in Japan upgraded their equipment
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Verovatno se dogodilo to, da je bolnica u Japanu obnovila svoju opremu
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and donated their old stuff to Nepal.
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i poklonila staru opremu Nepalu.
Problem je to, da bez tehničara i rezervnih delova,
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The problem is, without technicians, without spare parts,
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donations like this very quickly turn into junk.
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ovakve donacije se vrlo brzo pretvaraju u otpad.
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So this seemed like a problem that we could do something about.
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Ličilo je na problem u vezi sa kojim bismo mogli da učinimo nešto.
Održavati bebinu toplotu nedelju dana
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Keeping a baby warm for a week -- that's not rocket science.
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i nije neka nuklearna fizika.
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So we got started.
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Tako smo započeli.
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We partnered with a leading medical research institution here in Boston.
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Udružili smo se sa vodećom institucijom
za medicinska istraživanja ovde, u Bostonu.
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We conducted months of user research overseas,
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Mesecima smo vršili istraživanje korisnika u inostranstvu,
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trying to think like designers, human-centered design --
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pokušavajući da mislimo kao dizajneri, usmereni na čoveka.
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"Let's figure out what people want."
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Hajde da otkrijemo šta ljudi žele.
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We killed thousands of Post-it notes.
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Potrošili smo na hiljade papirića.
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We made dozens of prototypes to get to this.
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Napravili smo destine protopipova da bismo stigli do ovog.
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So this is the NeoNurture infant incubator,
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Ovo je inkubator NeoNurture i u njega je uloženo mnogo razmišljanja.
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and this has a lot of smarts built into it, and we felt great.
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Osećali smo se sjajno.
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So the idea here is, unlike the concept car,
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Ideja je bila da, za razliku od modela automobila,
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we want to marry something beautiful
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sastavimo nešto divno
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with something that actually works.
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sa nečim što zaista funkcioniše.
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And our idea is that this design
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Naša ideja je da bi ovaj dizajn
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would inspire manufacturers and other people of influence
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mogao da inspiriše proizvođače i druge uticajne ljude
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to take this model and run with it.
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da razgrabe ovaj model.
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Here's the bad news:
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Evo loših vesti:
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the only baby ever actually put inside the NeoNurture incubator
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jedina beba koju su stavili u NeoNurture inkubator
je bilo ovo dete tokom slikanja za magazin Tajm.
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was this kid during a Time magazine photo shoot.
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So recognition is fantastic.
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Priznanje je fantastično.
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We want design to get out for people to see it.
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Želimo da dizajn dospe do ljudi da ga vide.
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It won lots of awards.
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Osvojio je mnoge nagrade.
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But it felt like a booby prize.
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Ali izgledalo je kao utešna nagrada.
Hteli smo da uradimo divne stvari koje bi učinile svet boljim,
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We wanted to make beautiful things
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that are going to make the world a better place,
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and I don't think this kid was even in it long enough to get warm.
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a mislim da ovo dete nije stiglo ni da se zagreje u njemu.
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So it turns out that design for inspiration doesn't really ...
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Ispada da taj dizajn za inspiraciju,
u stvari -
ono što želim da kažem,
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I guess what I would say is, for us, for what I want to do,
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je ili previše spor ili jednostavno ne funkcioniše, nije efikasan.
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it's either too slow or it just doesn't work, it's ineffective.
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So, really, I want to design for outcomes.
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Zaista želim da dizajniram tako da ima rezultata.
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I don't want to make beautiful stuff; I want to make the world a better place.
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Ne želim da pravim lepe stvari.
Želim da napravim svet boljim mestom.
Kada smo dizajnirali NeoNurture,
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So when we were designing NeoNurture,
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mnogo pažnje smo obratili na ljude koji će ga koristiti,
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we paid a lot of attention to the people who are going to use this thing,
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na primer, siromašne porodice, seoske lekare,
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for example, poor families, rural doctors,
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prezaposlene medicinske sestre, tehničare za popravku.
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overloaded nurses, even repair technicians.
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Mislili smo da smo sve osnove pokrili, da smo sve dobro uradili.
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We thought we had all our bases covered, we'd done everything right.
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Well, it turns out there's this whole constellation of people
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Ispada da postoji čitava plejada ljudi
koji moraju biti uključeni u proizvod da bi on bio uspešan:
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who have to be involved in a product for it to be successful:
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manufacturing, financing, distribution, regulation.
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proizvodnja, finansiranje, distribucija, regulativa.
Majkl Fri iz PATH-a kaže da moraš da otkriješ
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Michael Free at PATH says you have to figure out
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ko će "izabrati, koristiti i platiti namete"
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who will "choose, use and pay the dues"
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for a product like this.
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za ovakav proizvod.
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And I have to ask the question that VCs always ask:
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Moram da postavim pitanje -
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"Sir, what is your business, and who is your customer?"
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oni koji ulažu kapital uvek pitaju:
"Gospodine, šta je vaš posao i ko je vaš kupac?"
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Who is our customer?
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Ko je naš kupac? Evo primera.
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Well, here's an example.
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This is a Bangladeshi hospital director outside his facility.
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Ovo je direktor bolnice u Bangladešu ispred svoje ustanove.
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It turns out he doesn't buy any of his equipment.
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On ne kupuje ništa od opreme.
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Those decisions are made by the Ministry of Health
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Te odluke donosi Ministarstvo zdravlja
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or by foreign donors,
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ili strani donatori
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and it just kind of shows up.
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i ta oprema se samo pojavi.
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Similarly, here's a multinational medical-device manufacturer.
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Slično, ovo je jedan multinacionalni proizvođač medicinske opreme.
Ispada da se oni nalaze na pravom mestu u pravo vreme.
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It turns out they've got to fish where the fish are.
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Proizilazi da je u tržištima u razvoju, gde su potrošači,
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So it turns out that in emerging markets -- where the fish are --
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srednja klasa u usponu -
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are the emerging middle class of these countries --
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diseases of affluence: heart disease, infertility.
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i bolesti izobilja: bolesti srca, neplodnost.
Tako, dizajniranje sa ciljem, u nekom vidu,
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So it turns out that design for outcomes in one aspect
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really means thinking about design for manufacture and distribution.
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zaista znači razmišljanje o dizajnu za proizvodnju i distribuciju.
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OK, that was an important lesson.
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U redu, to je bila važna pouka.
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Second, we took that lesson and tried to push it into our next project.
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Drugo, naučili smo lekciju i pokušali da je ubacimo u naš sledeći projekat.
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So we started by finding a manufacturer,
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Krenuli smo u potragu za proizvođačem,
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an organization called MTTS in Vietnam,
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a to je organizacija MTTS u Vijetnamu,
koja proizvodi tehnologiju za novorođene, namenjenu za Jugoistočnu Aziju.
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that manufactures newborn-care technologies for Southeast Asia.
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Our other partner is East Meets West,
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Naš drugi partner je East Meets West.
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an American foundation that distributes that technology
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To je američka fondacija koja distribuira ovu tehnologiju
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to poor hospitals around that region.
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siromašnim bolnicama u toj regiji.
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So we started with them, saying, "Well, what do you want?
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Započeli smo pitanjem: "Šta želite?
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What's a problem you want to solve?"
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Koji problem želite rešiti?"
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And they said, "Let's work on newborn jaundice."
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A oni su rekli: "Hajde da poradimo na problemu žutice novorođenčadi."
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So this is another one of these mind-boggling global problems.
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Ovo je još jedan od globalnih problema od kojih zastaje dah.
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Jaundice affects two-thirds of newborns around the world.
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Žutica pogađa dve trećine novorođenih širom sveta.
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Of those newborns, one in 10 roughly,
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Kod tih novorođenih, grubo rečeno kod jednog od deset njih,
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if it's not treated, the jaundice gets so severe
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ako se ona ne leči, postane tako ozbiljna,
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that it leads to either a life-long disability,
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da dovodi ili do doživotne nesposobnosti
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or the kids could even die.
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ili deca mogu čak i umreti.
Postoji jedan način lečenja žutice
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There's one way to treat jaundice,
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i to je transfuzija kompletne krvi.
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and that's what's called an exchange transfusion.
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So as you can imagine, that's expensive and a little bit dangerous.
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Možete zamisliti koliko je skupa i opasna.
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There is another cure.
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Ima još jedan lek.
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It's very technological, it's very complex, a little daunting.
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On je vrlo tehnološki, kompleksan i malo zastrašujući.
Morate osvetliti dete plavom svetlošću -
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You've got to shine blue light on the kid.
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(Laughter)
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Bright blue light on as much of the skin as you can cover.
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primeniti plavu svetlost na najveću moguću površinu kože.
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How is this a hard problem?
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Koliko je ovo težak problem?
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I went to MIT. OK, we'll figure that out.
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Otišao sam do MIT-a.
U redu, otkrićemo. (Smeh)
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(Laughter)
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Evo primera.
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So here's an example.
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This is an overhead phototherapy device that's designed for American hospitals,
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Ovo je gornji uređaj za fototerapiju koji je dizajniran za američke bolnice.
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and here's how it's supposed to be used.
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Evo kako bi trebalo da se upotrebljava.
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It's over the baby, illuminating a single patient.
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Uređaj je iznad bebe, osvetljava jednog pacijenta.
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Take it out of an American hospital,
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Iznesimo to iz američke bolnice,
pošaljimo ga u prenatrpanu bolnicu u Aziji
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send it overseas to a crowded facility in Asia,
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here's how it's actually used.
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i evo kako se u stvari koristi.
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The effectiveness of phototherapy is a function of light intensity.
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Efekat fototerapije zavisi od intenziteta svetlosti.
Ovi tamno plavi kvadrati pokazuju gde je fototerapija efikasna.
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These dark blue squares show you where it's effective phototherapy.
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Here's what it looks like under actual use.
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Evo kako izgleda u stvarnoj upotrebi.
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So those kids on the edges aren't actually receiving effective phototherapy.
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Ona deca s kraja
u stvari ne dobijaju efektivnu fototerapiju.
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But without training, without some kind of light meter,
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Bez obuke, bez nekog "svetlomera"
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how would you know?
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kako biste ovo znali?
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We see other examples of problems like this.
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Ima i drugih primera sa sličnim problemima.
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Here's a neonatal intensive care unit,
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Evo odeljenja intenzivne nege novorođenih
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where moms come in to visit their babies.
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gde mame dolaze u posetu svojim bebama.
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And keep in mind that Mom maybe just had a C-section,
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Ne zaboravite, mama se možda tek porodila carskim rezom,
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so that's already kind of a bummer.
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a to je već neka vrsta neprijatnosti.
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Mom's visiting her kid.
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Mama je u poseti detetu.
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She sees her baby naked, lying under some blue lights,
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Vidi svoje dete nago, kako leži ispod nekog plavog svetla,
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looking kind of vulnerable.
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izgleda pomalo ranjivo.
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It's not uncommon for Mom to put a blanket over the baby.
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Nije neobično da mama pokriva bebu ćebetom.
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From a phototherapy standpoint, maybe not the best behavior.
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Sa stanovišta fototerapije, ovo nije najbolje postupanje.
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In fact, that sounds kind of dumb.
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U stvari zvuči glupo.
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Except, what we've learned is that there's no such thing as a dumb user --
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Osim što smo naučili
da ne postoji glup korisnik - zaista smo to shvatili.
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there are only dumb products.
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Postoje samo glupi proizvodi.
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We have to think like existentialists:
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Moramo da razmišljamo kao egzistencijalisti.
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it's not the painting we would have painted,
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Ovo nije slika koju bismo naslikali,
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it's the painting that we actually painted.
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ovo je slika koju smo stvarno naslikali.
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It's the use -- designed for actual use.
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To je korišćenje - dizajniran je za stvarnu upotrebu.
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How are people actually going to use this?
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Kako će ljudi koristiti ovo?
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So, similarly, when we think about our partner MTTS,
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Slično, kad mislimo o našem partneru MTTS,
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they've made some amazing technologies for treating newborn illnesses.
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napravili su neke neverovatne tehnologije za lečenje bolesti novorođenih.
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So here's an overhead warmer and a CPAP.
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Ovo je grejač iznad glave i aparat za potpomognuto disanje pod pritiskom.
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They're inexpensive, really rugged.
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Oni su jeftini i zaista grubi.
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They've treated 50,000 kids in Vietnam with this technology.
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50 000 dece je lečeno ovom tehnologijom u Vijetnamu.
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But here's the problem:
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Ali evo problema:
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Every doctor in the world, every hospital administrator,
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svaki lekar na svetu, svaki upravnik bolnice
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has seen TV -- curse those "ER" reruns!
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je video na TV-u - krivite reprize "E.R.".
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Turns out they all know what a medical device is supposed to look like.
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Ispada da svi oni znaju kako bi trebalo da izgleda neki medicinski uređaj.
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They want Buck Rogers, they don't want effective.
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Oni žele Baka Rodžersa, ne žele efikasnost.
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It sounds crazy, it sounds dumb,
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Zvuči šašavo i glupo,
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but there are actually hospitals who would rather have no equipment
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ali zaista postoje bolnice koje radije neće nikakvu opremu,
08:04
than something that looks cheap and crummy.
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nego da imaju nešto što izgleda jeftino i bedno.
08:06
So again, if we want people to trust a device,
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Pa opet, ako želimo da ljudi veruju nekom uređaju,
08:09
it has to look trustworthy.
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on mora izgledati pouzdano.
08:11
So thinking about outcomes,
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Misleći o rezultatu,
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it turns out appearances matter.
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proizilazi da je bitan izgled.
08:15
We took all that information together.
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Prikupili smo sve informacije.
08:17
We tried, this time, to get it right.
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Pokušali smo ovog puta da bude kako treba.
08:19
And here's what we developed.
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Evo šta smo izmislili.
08:21
This is the Firefly phototherapy device,
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Ovo je Firefly uređaj za fototerapiju,
08:23
except this time, we didn't stop at the concept car.
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ali ovog puta nismo stali na prototipu.
08:26
From the very beginning, we started by talking to manufacturers.
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Od samog početka smo razgovarali sa proizvođačima.
08:30
Our goal is to make a state-of-the-art product
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Naš cilj je da napravimo vrhunski proizvod,
08:33
that our partner MTTS can actually manufacture.
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a da naš partner MTTS može da ga proizvede.
08:36
Our goal is to study how they work, the resources they have access to,
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Naš cilj je da proučimo kako oni rade, kojim resursima imaju pristup
da bi mogli da ga proizvedu.
08:40
so that they can make this product.
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08:42
So that's the design for manufacture question.
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Ovo je pitanje dizajna za proizvodnju.
08:45
When we think about actual use,
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Kada mislimo o stvarnoj upotrebi
videćete da Firefly ima samo jednu kolevku.
08:47
you'll notice that Firefly has a single bassinet.
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08:49
It only fits a single baby,
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To je samo za jednu bebu.
08:51
and the idea here is it's obvious how you ought to use this device.
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Ideja je da bude očigledno kako treba da se koristi ovaj uređaj.
08:55
If you try to put more than one kid in,
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Ako pokušate da stavite više od jednog deteta,
08:57
you're stacking them on top of each other.
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gomilaćete ih jedno preko drugog.
08:59
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
Vodili smo se idejom da je teško upotrebljavati uređaj pogrešno.
09:01
So the idea here is you want to make it hard to use wrong.
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09:03
In other words, you want to make the right way to use it
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Drugim rečima, želimo da se uređaj koristi na pravi način
09:06
the easiest way to use it.
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i najlakši način.
09:08
Another example -- again, silly Mom.
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Još jedan primer: ponovo šašave mame.
09:11
Silly Mom thinks her baby looks cold, wants to put a blanket over the baby.
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Šašava mama misli da je njenoj bebi hladno,
pa želi da stavi ćebe preko nje.
09:15
That's why we have lights above and below the baby in Firefly,
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Zbog toga u Firefly-u imamo svetla i iznad i ispod bebe.
Ako mama prekrije bebu ćebetom,
09:18
so if Mom does put a blanket over the baby,
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beba će još uvek dobijati efektivnu fototerapiju sa donje strane.
09:20
it's still receiving effective phototherapy from below.
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09:23
Last story here:
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Evo poslednje priče:
09:25
I've got a friend in India who told me
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imam prijatelja u Indiji koji mi je rekao
09:27
that you haven't really tested a piece of electronic technology
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da testiranje nekog komada elektronske tehnologije
za distribuciju u Aziji,
09:30
for distribution in Asia,
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nije završeno dok ne naučite bubašvabu da se popne unutra
09:32
until you've trained a cockroach to climb in and pee
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09:34
on every single little component on the inside.
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i popiški svaku malu komponentu u uređaju.
(Smeh)
09:37
(Laughter)
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09:38
You think it's funny.
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Mislite da je ovo smešno.
09:40
I had a laptop in the Peace Corps,
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Imao sam jedan laptop dok sam bio u mirovnim snagama
09:42
and the screen had all these dead pixels on it.
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i ekran se zacrneo.
09:44
And one day I looked in -- they were all dead ants
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Kada sam jednog dana pogledao unutra, bilo je uginulih mrava
09:47
that had gotten into my laptop and perished.
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koji su dospeli u moj laptop i nastradali su -
09:49
Those poor ants.
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09:50
(Laughter)
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jadni mravi!
09:52
So with Firefly, what we did is -- the problem is electronics get hot,
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Sa Firefly-om smo učinili sledeće -
problem je što se elektronika ugreje
09:56
and you have to put in vents or fans to keep them cool --
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i morate napraviti otvore ili hladiti ventilatorom
09:58
in most products.
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većinu proizvoda.
10:00
We decided we can't put a "Do not enter" sign next to the vent.
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Nismo mogli da stavimo kod otvora znak "Zabranjen ulaz".
10:04
We actually got rid of all that stuff.
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U stvari mi smo se svega toga otarasili.
10:06
So Firefly's totally sealed.
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Tako da je Firefly potpuno zapečaćen.
10:08
These are the kinds of lessons --
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Ovo su pouke -
neprijatno je biti prilično smešan tinejdžer,
10:10
as awkward as it was to be a pretty goofy teenager,
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10:12
much worse to be a frustrated designer.
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ali je mnogo gore biti frustrirani dizajner.
10:14
So I was thinking, "What I really want to do is change the world.
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Tako, mislio sam da ono što zaista želim je da promenim svet.
10:18
I have to pay attention to manufacturing and distribution.
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Moram obratiti pažnju na proizvodnju i distribuciju.
10:20
I have to pay attention to how people are actually going to use a device.
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Moram obratiti pažnju na to, kako će ljudi zaista koristiti uređaj.
10:24
I actually have to pay attention. There's no excuse for failure.
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Zaista moram obratiti pažnju. Stvarno, nema izgovora za neuspeh.
10:27
I have to think like an existentialist.
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Moram da razmišljam kao egzistencijalista.
10:29
I have to accept that there are no dumb users, only dumb products."
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Moram da prihvatim da nema glupih korisnika,
da postoje samo glupi proizvodi.
10:33
We have to ask ourselves hard questions.
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Moramo postavljati sebi teška pitanja.
10:35
Are we designing for the world that we want?
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Da li dizajniramo za svet koji želimo?
10:38
Are we designing for the world that we have?
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Da li dizajniramo za svet koji imamo?
10:41
Are we designing for the world that's coming,
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Da li dizajniramo za svet koji dolazi,
10:43
whether we're ready or not?
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bez obzira da li smo spremni na to ili ne?
10:44
I got into this business designing products.
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Ušao sam u ovaj posao dizajniranja proizvoda.
10:48
I've since learned that if you really want to make a difference in the world,
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Od tada sam shvatio da, ako zaista želite da napravite nešto posebno u svetu,
10:51
you have to design outcomes.
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morate dizajnirati rezultate.
10:53
And that's design that matters.
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Samo takav dizajn je bitan.
Hvala.
10:55
Thank you.
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(Aplauz)
10:56
(Applause)
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