Charles Limb: Building the musical muscle

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Traducător: Florian Surcel Corector: Stefan Molnar
00:15
Now when we think of our senses,
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Cand ne gandim la simturile noastre,
00:20
we don't usually think of the reasons
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nu ne gandim de obicei la motivele
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why they probably evolved, from a biological perspective.
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din cauza carora probabil s-au dezvoltat, dintr-o perspectiva biologica.
00:24
We don't really think of the evolutionary need
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Chiar nu ne imaginam nevoia evolutiva
00:27
to be protected by our senses,
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de a fi protejati de simturile noastre,
00:29
but that's probably why our senses really evolved --
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dar din aceasta cauza probabil, simturile noastre au evoluat --
00:31
to keep us safe, to allow us to live.
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pentru a ne mentine in siguranta, pentru a ne permite sa traim.
00:34
Really when we think of our senses,
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Sincer, cand ne imaginam simturile noastre,
00:36
or when we think of the loss of the sense,
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sau cand ne imaginam pierderea simtului,
00:38
we really think about something more like this:
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ne gandim in fapt la ceva de genul:
00:40
the ability to touch something luxurious, to taste something delicious,
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abilitatea de a atinge ceva luxos, de a gusta ceva delicios,
00:43
to smell something fragrant,
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de a mirosi ceva parfumat,
00:45
to see something beautiful.
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de a vedea ceva frumos.
00:47
This is what we want out of our senses.
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Asta este ceea ce ne dorim de la simturile noastre.
00:49
We want beauty; we don't just want function.
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Ne dorim frumusete, nu ne dorim o simpla functie.
00:52
And when it comes to sensory restoration,
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Si cand vorbim despre restabilirea senzoriala,
00:54
we're still very far away from being able to provide beauty.
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putem spune ca suntem inca foarte departe de a fi in stare sa furnizam frumusete.
00:57
And that's what I'd like to talk to you a little bit about today.
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Despre aceasta imi doresc sa va vorbesc putin astazi.
01:00
Likewise for hearing.
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In special despre auz.
01:02
When we think about why we hear,
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Cand ne gandim la motivul pentru care auzim,
01:04
we don't often think about the ability to hear an alarm or a siren,
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nu ne gandim prea des la abilitatea de a auzi o alarma sau o sirena,
01:07
although clearly that's an important thing.
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desi cu siguranta acesta este un lucru important.
01:09
Really what we want to hear is music.
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Ceea ce ne dorim cu adevarat sa auzim este muzica.
01:12
(Music)
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Muzica.♫
01:27
So many of you know that that's Beethoven's Seventh Symphony.
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Multi dintre dumneavoastra stiu ca aceasta este Simfonia nr. 7 de Beethoven.
01:29
Many of you know that he was deaf, or near profoundly deaf,
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Multi dintre dumneavostra cunosc ca a fost surd, sau aproape de surzenia totala,
01:32
when he wrote that.
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cand a scris asta.
01:34
Now I'd like to impress upon you
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Acum vreau sa va fac sa intelegeti
01:36
how unusual it is that we can hear music.
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cat de neobisnuit este ca putem sa auzim muzica.
01:39
Music is just one of the strangest things that there is.
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Muzica este unul dintre cele mai stranii lucruri
01:42
It's acoustic vibrations in the air,
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Consta intr-o vibratie acustica in aer,
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little waves of energy in the air that tickle our eardrum.
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mici unde de energie in aer care ne ating timpanul
01:48
Somehow in tickling our eardrum
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Stimuland intr-un anume fel timpanul nostru
01:50
that transmits energy down our hearing bones,
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ce transmite energie mai departe catre oscioarele de auz
01:52
which get converted to a fluid impulse inside the cochlea
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care o convertesc intr-un impuls fluid in interiorul cohlearului
01:55
and then somehow converted into an electrical signal in our auditory nerves
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si apoi transformata cumva intr-un semnal electric in nervii nostri auditivi
01:58
that somehow wind up in our brains
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care se finalizeaza intr-un fel anume in creierele noastre
02:01
as a perception of a song or a beautiful piece of music.
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ca o perceptie a unui cantec sau a unei frumoase piese muzicale.
02:04
That process is entirely abstract and very, very unusual.
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Acest proces este in intregime abstract, si foarte, foarte neobisnuit.
02:07
And we could discuss that topic alone for days
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Si putem discuta doar despre acest subiect zile intregi
02:10
to really try to figure out, how is it that we hear something that's emotional
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pentru a incerca intr-adevar sa intelegem, cum se face ca auzim ceva ca fiind emotionant
02:14
from something that starts out as a vibration in the air?
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din ceva ce a inceput ca o vibratie in aer?
02:17
Turns out that if you have hearing loss,
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Privita invers, daca ti-ai pierdut auzul,
02:19
most people that lose their hearing
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majoritatea celor care si-au pierdut auzul
02:21
lose it at what's called the cochlea, the inner ear.
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il pierd la nivelul asa numitul cohlea, urechea interna.
02:24
And it's at the hair cell level that they do this.
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Si asta se intampla la nivelul celulei firului de par.
02:27
Now if you had to pick a sense to lose,
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Daca acum ati fi nevoiti sa alegeti un simt pe care sa-l pierdeti,
02:29
I have to be very honest with you
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Trebuie sa fiu foarte sincer cu voi
02:31
and say, we're better at restoring hearing
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si sa spun, suntem mai buni in recuperarea auzului
02:33
than we are at restoring any sense that there is.
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decat in recuperarea oricarui alt simt care exista,
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In fact, nothing even actually comes close
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De fapt, nimic altceva nici macar nu se apropie
02:37
to our ability to restore hearing.
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de abilitatea noastra de a restabili auzul.
02:39
And as a physician and a surgeon, I can confidently tell my patients
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Si ca fizician si chirurg, pot sa spun cu incredere pacientilor mei
02:42
that if you had to pick a sense to lose,
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ca daca este nevoie sa aleaga un simt pe care sa-l piarda,
02:44
we are the furthest along medically and surgically with hearing.
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suntem apropiati din punct de vedere medical si chirurgical intr-o masura mai mare de auz.
02:48
As a musician, I can tell you
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Ca si muzician, va pot spune
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that if I had to have a cochlear implant,
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ca daca ar fi sa am un implant cohlear,
02:52
I'd be heartbroken. I'd just be plainly heartbroken,
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as avea inima franta, as fi de-a dreptul zdrobit
02:54
because I know that music would never sound the same to me.
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deoarece as sti ca muzica nu ar mai suna niciodata la fel pentru mine.
02:58
Now this is a video that I'm going to show you
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Acum o sa va arat un material video
03:01
of a girl who's born deaf.
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cu o fetita care s-a nascut surda.
03:03
She's in a very supportive environment.
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Ea se afla intr-un mediu care o sprijina foarte mult.
03:05
Her mother's doing everything she can.
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Mama ei face tot ceea ce poate.
03:07
Okay, play that video please.
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OK, pune-ti materialul va rog.
03:09
(Video) Mother: That's an owl.
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(Video) Mama: Asta este o bufnita!
03:11
Owl, yeah.
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Bufnita, da.
03:18
Owl. Owl.
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Bufnita. Bufnita.
03:21
Yeah.
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Da.
03:28
Baby. Baby.
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Baby. Baby.
03:31
You want it?
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O vrei?
03:34
(Kiss)
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(Pupic)
03:37
Charles Limb: Now despite everything going for this child
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Charles Limb: Acum in ciuda a tot ce se face pentru acest copil
03:39
in terms of family support
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in ceea ce priveste suportul familiei
03:41
and simple infused learning,
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ai al invataturilor simple insuflate,
03:43
there is a limitation to what a child who's deaf, an infant who was born deaf,
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exista o limitarea la ceea ce copilul care este surd, bebelusul care s-a nascut surd,
03:46
has in this world
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are in lumea lui
03:48
in terms of social, educational, vocational opportunities.
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in ceea ce priveste viata sociala, educationala, oportunitatile vocationale.
03:51
I'm not saying that they can't live a beautiful, wonderful life.
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Nu spun ca ei nu pot sa traiasca o viata frumoasa, minunata.
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I'm saying that they're going to face obstacles
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Spun doar ca vor avea de infruntat obstacole
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that most people who have normal hearing will not have to face.
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pe care oamenii cu auz normal nu trebuie sa le intampine.
03:59
Now hearing loss and the treatment for hearing loss
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Pierderea auzului si tratamentul pentru pierderea auzului
04:01
has really evolved in the past 200 years.
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chiar a evoluat in ultimii 200 de ani.
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I mean literally,
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Si spun asta fara exagerare,
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they used to do things like stick ear-shaped objects onto your ears
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foloseau lucruri ca lipirea unor obiecte in forma de ureche peste urechi
04:08
and stick funnels in.
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si alipeau acestora niste palnii.
04:10
And that was the best you could do for hearing loss.
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Si asta era tot ce se putea mai bine pentru pierderea auzului.
04:12
Back then you couldn't even look at the eardrum.
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Pe atunci nici macar nu puteai sa te uiti la un timpan.
04:14
So it's not too surprising
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asa ca nu este atat de surprinzator
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that there were no good treatments for hearing loss.
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ca nu existau tratamente cu rezultate bune pentru pierderea auzului.
04:18
And now today we have the modern multi-channel cochlear implant,
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In prezent avem implanturi moderne de cohlea multi-canelari,
04:20
which is an outpatient procedure.
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ce reprezinta o procedura ambulatorie.
04:22
It's surgically placed inside the inner ear.
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Este plasat chirurgical in urechea interna.
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It takes about an hour and a half to two hours, depending on where it's done,
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Dureaza aproximativ o ora si jumatate - doua ore, in functie de locul unde este executata,
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under general anesthesia.
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sub anestezie generala.
04:28
And in the end, you achieve something like this
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Si la sfarsit se obtine ceva de genul
04:30
where an electrode array is inserted inside the cochlea.
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unui sir de electrozi introdusi in interiorul cohlea-rului
04:33
Now actually, this is quite crude
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De fapt, este chiar crud
04:35
in comparison to our regular inner ear.
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in comparatie cu ureche noastra interna normala.
04:37
But here is that same girl who is implanted now.
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Dar priviti aceeasi fetita care are un implant acum.
04:40
This is her 10 years later.
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Aceasta este ea dupa 10 ani.
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And this is a video that was taken
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Si acesta este un material video care a fost facut
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by my surgical mentor, Dr. John Niparko, who implanted her.
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de catre mentorul meu in chirurgie, Dr. John Niparko, cel care i-a facut implantul.
04:46
If we could play this video please.
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daca am putea sa punem acest materal video va rog.
04:49
(Video) John Niparko: So you've written two books?
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(Video) John Niparko: deci ai scris doua carti?
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Girl: I have written two books. (Mother: Was the other one a book or a journal entry?)
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Fetita: Am scris doua carti. (Mama: Cealalta a fost o carte sau un jurnal?)
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Girl: No, the other one was a book. (Mother: Oh, okay.)
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Fetita: Nu, celalata a fost o carte. (Mama: O, ok.)
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JN: Well this book has seven chapters,
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JN: Ei bine cartea aceasta are sapte capitole,
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and the last chapter
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si ultimul capitol
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is entitled "The Good Things About Being Deaf."
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este intitulat "Lucrurile bune in a fi surd"
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Do you remember writing that chapter?
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Iti amintesti de scrierea acestui capitol?
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Girl: Yes I do. I remember writing every chapter.
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Fetita: Da. Imi amintesc de scrierea fiecarui capitol.
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JN: Yeah.
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JN: Yeah.
05:16
Girl: Well sometimes my sister can be kind of annoying.
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Fetita: Ei bine cateodata sora mea poate fi cam enervanta.
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So it comes in handy to not be annoyed by her.
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Asa ca imi vine la indemana sa nu fiu deranjata de ea.
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JN: I see. And who is that?
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JN: Inteleg. Si cine este?
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Girl: Holly. (JN: Okay.)
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Fetita: Holly. (JN: Ok)
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Mother: Her sister. (JN: Her sister.) Girl: My sister.
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Mama: Sora ei. (JN: Sora ei.) Fetita: Sora mea.
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JN: And how can you avoid being annoyed by her?
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JN: Si cum poti evita sa fi deranjata de catre ea?
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Girl: I just take off my CI, and I don't hear anything.
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Fetita: Imi scot pur si simplu CI-ul si nu mai aud nimic.
05:37
(Laughter)
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(Rasete)
05:39
It comes in handy.
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E la indemana.
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JN: So you don't want to hear everything that's out there?
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JN: Deci nu vrei sa auzi chiar totul?
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Girl: No.
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Fetita: Nu.
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CL: And so she's phenomenal.
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CL: Este fenomenala.
05:48
And there's no way that you can't look at that as an overwhelming success.
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Nu este nicio posibilitate ca sa nu te uiti la asta ca la un succes extraordinar.
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It is. It's a huge success story in modern medicine.
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Chiar este. Este o imensa povesta de succes in medicina moderna.
05:54
However, despite this incredible facility
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Oricum, in ciuda acestei facilitati incredibile
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that some cochlear implant users display with language,
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pe care cativa utilizatori de impanturi auditive o expun prin vorbe,
05:59
you turn on the radio and all of a sudden they can't hear music almost at all.
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deschizi radioul si deodata ei nu pot sa asculte muzica aproape deloc.
06:03
In fact, most implant users really struggle
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De fapt, majoritatea utilizatorilor de implanturi se chinuie intr-adevar
06:05
and dislike music because it sounds so bad.
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si nu apreciaza muzica deoarece suna foarte rau.
06:08
And so when it comes to this idea
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Si atunci a aparut ideea
06:10
of restoring beauty to somebody's life,
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de recastigare a frumusetii vietii unora,
06:12
we have a long way to go when it comes to audition.
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avem un drum lung de parcurs cand vine lvorba de auditie
06:14
Now there are a lot of reasons for that.
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Acum exista un numar mare de motive pentru acesata.
06:16
I mentioned earlier the fact
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Am mentionat mai devreme faptul ca
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that music is a different capacity because it's abstract.
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muzica este o dimensiune aparte deoarece este abstracta.
06:20
Language is very different. Language is very precise.
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Vorbirea este foarte diferita. Vorbirea este foarte precisa.
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In fact, the whole reason we use it
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De fapt, motivul complet din cauza caruia o folosim
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is because it has semantic-specificity.
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este fiindca are o specificitate semantica.
06:26
When you say a word,
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Cand spui un cuvant,
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what you care is that word was perceived correctly.
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ceea ce te intereseaza este ca acel cuvant sa fie perceput corect.
06:30
You don't care that the word sounded pretty
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Nu te intereseaza ca acel cuvant sa sune dragut
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when it was spoken.
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atunci cand este spus.
06:34
Music is entirely different.
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Cu muzica este total diferit.
06:36
When you hear music, if it doesn't sound good, what's the point?
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Cand asculti muzica, daca nu suna bine, care mai este scopul?
06:38
There's really very little point in listening to music
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Este un punct foarte mic in ascultarea muzicii
06:40
when it doesn't sound good to you.
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cand nu-ti suna bine.
06:42
The acoustics of music are much harder than those of language.
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Acustica muzicii este mult mai puternica decat cea a vorbirii.
06:45
And you can see on this figure,
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Si puteti vede pe aceasta imagine,
06:47
that the frequency range
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in care nivelul frecventei,
06:49
and the decibel range, the dynamic range of music
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si nivelul decibelic, dinamica nivelului muzicii
06:51
is far more heterogeneous.
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este de departe mai eterogena.
06:53
So if we had to design a perfect cochlear implant,
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Asa ca daca ar fi sa proiectam implantul perfect de cohlea
06:55
what we would try to do
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ceea ce am incerca sa facem
06:57
is target it to be able to allow music transmission.
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ar fi sa fim capabili sa ascultam transmiterea muzicii.
07:00
Because I always view music as the pinnacle of hearing.
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Deoarece vad intotdeauna muzica ca fiind un apogeu al ascultarii.
07:03
If you can hear music,
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Daca poti sa asculti muzica,
07:05
you should be able to hear anything.
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vei fi in stare sa auzi orice.
07:07
Now the problems begin first with pitch perception.
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Problemele incep cu perceperea masurii..
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I mean, most of us know that pitch is a fundamental building block of music.
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Vreau sa spun ca, multi dintre noi stiu ca masura este o componenta fundamentala in construirea muzicii.
07:13
And without the ability to perceive pitch well,
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Si fara abilitatea de a percepe masura asa cum trebuie,
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music and melody is a very difficult thing to do --
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muzica si melodia sunt un lucru foarte greu de facut --
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forget about a harmony and things like that.
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uitati de armonie si lucruri de genul asta.
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Now this is a MIDI arrangement of Rachmaninoff's Prelude.
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Acesta este un aranjament MIDI al Preludiului lui Rahmaninoff
07:23
Now if we could just play this.
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Daca putem sa-i dam drumul.
07:25
(Music)
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(Muzica)
07:49
Okay, now if we consider
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Ok, acum daca luam in considerare
07:52
that in a cochlear implant patient
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asta la un pacient cu implant auditiv
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pitch perception could be off as much as two octaves,
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perceperea masurii poate fi gresita cu pana la doua octave,
07:57
let's see what happens here
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sa vedem ce se intampla aici
07:59
when we randomize this to within one semitone.
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cand generam asta intr-un semiton
08:01
We would be thrilled if we had one semitone pitch perception in cochlear implant users.
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Vom vibra daca vom avea perceptia masurii unui semiton in implantul cohlear al utilizatorului.
08:04
Go ahead and play this one.
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Dati drumul si puneti asta
08:06
(Music)
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(Muzica)
08:29
Now my goal in showing you that
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Acum scopul meu este sa va arat
08:31
is to show you that music is not robust to degradation.
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sa va arat ca muzica nu este rezistenta la degradare.
08:33
You distort it a little bit, especially in terms of pitch, and you've changed it.
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Distorsionati-i foarte putin, in special in ceea ce priveste masura, si o veti avea schimbata.
08:37
And it might be that you kind of like that.
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Si poate fi ceva ce ar putea sa va placa.
08:39
That's kind of hypnotic.
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Un fel de hipnoza
08:41
But it certainly wasn't the way the music was intended.
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Dar cu siguranta nu a fost modul in care trebuia sa fie acea muzica
08:43
And you're not hearing the same thing
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Si nu ascultati acelasi lucru
08:45
that most people who have normal hearing are hearing.
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cu ceea ce majoritatea oamenilor cu auz normal aud.
08:47
Now the other issue comes with,
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Acum apare un alt aspect,
08:49
not just the ability to tell pitches apart,
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nu doar abilitatea de a identifica separat masurile,
08:51
but the ability to tell sounds apart.
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ci abilitatea de a identifica separat sunetele.
08:53
Most cochlear implant users cannot tell the difference between an instrument.
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Majoritatea utilizatorilor de implant auditiv nu pot spune care este diferenta dintre instrumente
08:56
If we could play these two sound clips in succession.
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daca putem sa punem aceste doua clipuri audio succesiv.
08:58
(Trumpet)
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(Trompeta)
09:00
The trumpet.
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Trompeta
09:02
And the second one.
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Si urmatorul
09:04
(Violin)
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Vioara
09:05
That's a violin.
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Acesta este vioara
09:07
These have similar wave forms. They're both sustained instruments.
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Au forma undelor similara. Sunt amandoua instrumente sustinute
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Cochlear implant users cannot tell the difference
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Utilizatorii de implant cohlear nu pot sa faca diferenta
09:11
between these instruments.
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dintre aceste instrumente.
09:13
The sound quality, or the sound of the sound
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Calitatea sunetului, sau sunetul sunetului
09:15
is how I like to describe timbre, tone color --
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este modul in care imi place sa desciu timbrul, tonalitatea --
09:17
they cannot tell these things whatsoever.
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ei nu pot sa spuna aceste lucruri orice ar fi.
09:19
This implant is not transmitting
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Acest implant nu transmite
09:22
the quality of music that usually provides things like warmth.
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calitatea muzicii care de obicei genereaza lucruri ca si caldura
09:25
Now if you look at the brain of an individual who has a cochlear implant
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Daca va uitati la creierul unui individ care are un implant cohlear.
09:28
and you have them listen to speech,
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si il studiati in timp ce asculta un speech
09:30
have them listen to rhythm and have them listen to melody,
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un ritm si o melodie,
09:32
what you find is that the auditory cortex
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ceea ce veti gasi este ca, cortexul auditiv
09:34
is the most active during speech.
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este mult mai activ in timpul speech-ului
09:36
You would think that because these implants are optimized for speech,
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Va ganditi ca se intampla asa deoarece aceste implanturi sunt optimizate pentru vorbire,
09:38
they were designed for speech.
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finnd concepute pentru vorbire.
09:40
But actually if you look at melody,
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dar daca va uitati de fapt la melodie,
09:42
what you find is that there's very little cortical activity
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ceea ce veti gasi este ca acolo va fi o foarte mica activitate a cortexului
09:44
in implant users compared with normal hearing controls.
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la utilizatorii de implanturi decat la cei cu auzul normal.
09:47
So for whatever reason,
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Asa ca nu conteaza din ce motiv,
09:49
this implant is not successfully stimulating auditory cortices
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implantul nu stimuleaza cu succes cortexul auditiv
09:52
during melody perception.
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in timpul perceperii melodiei.
09:55
Now the next question is,
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Acum intrebarea care se pune este,
09:57
well how does it really sound?
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Bun, cum suna in realitate?
09:59
Now we've been doing some studies
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Facem cateva studii
10:01
to really get a sense of what sound quality is like for these implant users.
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pentru a obtine un sens la ceea ce reprezinta calitatea sunetului pentru acesti utilizatori de implant auditiv
10:04
I'm going to play you two clips of Usher,
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Va voi pune doua clipuri ale lui Usher
10:06
one which is normal
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unul care este normal
10:08
and one which has almost no high frequencies, almost no low frequencies
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si unul care nu are majoritatea frecventelor inalte si joase
10:10
and not even that many mid frequencies.
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nici macar majoritatea frecventelor medii.
10:12
Go ahead and play that.
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Dati-i drumul
10:14
(Music)
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(Musica)
10:18
(Limited Frequency Music)
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(Muzica cu frecvente limitate)
10:24
I had patients tell me that those sound the same.
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Am avut pacienti care mi-au spus ca aceste sunete sunt la fel.
10:27
They cannot differentiate sound quality differences
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Nu au putut sa distinga diferente in calitatea sunetului
10:30
between those two clips.
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intre cele doua clipuri
10:32
Again, we are very, very far away in just getting to where we want to get to.
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Inca o data, suntem foarte, foarte departe de ceea ce ne dorim sa obtinem.
10:35
Now the question comes to mind: Is there any hope?
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Acum o intrebare ne vine in minte. Exista vreo speranta?
10:38
And yes, there is hope.
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Si da, exista o speranta.
10:40
Now I don't know if anybody knows who this is.
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Nu stiu daca cineva stie cine este
10:42
This is ... does somebody know?
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Este... stie cineva?
10:44
This is Beethoven.
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este Beethoven.
10:47
Now why would we know what Beethoven's skull looks like?
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De ce-am sti cum arata craniul lui Beethoven?
10:50
Because his grave was exhumed.
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Deoarece mromantul lui a fost exhumat.
10:52
And it turns out that his temporal bones were harvested when he died
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avand ca rezultat oasele lui scoase asa cum erau la momentul mortii
10:55
to try to look at the cause of his deafness,
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in incercarea de a descoperi cauzele surzeniei sale
10:57
which is why he has molding clay
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de aceea avea mocirla
10:59
and his skull is bulging out on the side there.
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si craniul sau era umflat in acea parte.
11:01
But Beethoven composed music
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Dar Beethoven a compus muzica
11:03
long after he lost his hearing.
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si mult dupa ce si-a pierdut auzul.
11:05
What that suggests is that, even in the case of hearing loss,
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Ceea ce ne spune ca , chiar si in cazul pierderii auzului,
11:08
the capacity for music remains.
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capacitatea pentru muzica ramane.
11:10
The brains remain hardwired for music.
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Creierul ramane in functiune pentru muzica.
11:14
I've been very lucky to work with Dr. David Ryugo
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Sunt foarte norocos sa lucrez cu Dr. David Ryogo
11:16
where I've been working on deaf cats that are white
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unde lucram pe pisici surde care sunt apte
11:19
and trying to figure out what happens when we give them cochlear implants.
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si incercam sa intelegem ce se intampla cand le punem implant cohlear
11:22
This is a cat that's been trained to respond to a trumpet for food.
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Aceasta este o pisica ce a fost antrenata sa reactioneze la o trompeta pentru mancare.
11:27
(Music)
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(Muzica)
11:41
Text: Beethoven doesn't excite her.
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Text: Beethoven nu o stimuleaza.
11:44
(Music)
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(Muzica)
11:56
The "1812 Overture" isn't worth waking for.
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"Uvertura 1812" nu merita efortul de a se deplasa
12:01
(Trumpet)
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(Trompeta)
12:11
But she jumps to action when called to duty!
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Dar se arunca in actiune atunci cand e chemata la datorie!
12:14
(Trumpet)
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(Trompeta)
12:18
CL: Now I'm not suggesting
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CL: Nu sugerez
12:20
that the cat is hearing that trumpet the way we're hearing it.
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ca pisica aude trompeta in acelasi fel in care o auzim noi.
12:23
I'm suggesting that with training
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sugerez doar ca, cu antrenament
12:25
you can imbue a musical sound with significance,
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poti insufla un sunet muzical cu semnificatie,
12:28
even in a cat.
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chiar si pentru o pisica.
12:30
If we were to direct efforts
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Daca ar fi sa depunem eforturi directionate
12:32
towards training cochlear implant users to hear music --
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catre antrenarea utilizatorilor de implant cohlear de a asculta muzica --
12:35
because right now there's virtually no effort put towards that,
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fiindca in acest moment nu sunt eforturi depuse in acest sens,
12:38
no rehabilitative strategies,
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nu sunt strategii de restaurare,
12:40
very little in the way of technological advances to actually improve music --
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s-a avansat foarte putin pe drumul tehnologic in vederea imbunatatirii muzicii --
12:43
we would come a long way.
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ne asteapta un drum lung.
12:45
Now I want to show you one last video.
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Acum vreau sa va arat un ultim material video.
12:48
And this is of a student of mine named Joseph
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Acesta este despre un student de-al meu pe nume Joseph
12:50
who I had the good fortune to work with for three years in my lab.
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cu care am avut norocul sa lucrez timp de 3 ani in laboratorul meu.
12:53
He's deaf, and he learned to play the piano
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Este surd, si a invatat sa cante la pian
12:56
after he received the cochlear implant.
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dupa ce a primit un implant cohlear.
12:58
And here's a video of Joseph.
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Si acesta este un material video cu Joseph.
13:01
(Music)
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(Musica)
13:45
(Video) Joseph: I was born in 1986.
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(Video) Joseph: M-am nascut in 1986
13:48
And at about four months old,
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Si cam la varsta de 4 luni
13:50
I was diagnosed with profoundly severe hearing loss.
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Am fost diagnosticat cu o pierdere profunda si severa a auzului.
13:52
Not long after,
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Nu mult dupa aceea,
13:54
I was fitted with hearing aids.
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Mi-au fost fixate dispozitive ajutatoare pentru urechi
13:56
But although these hearing aids
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Dar cu toate ca aceste dispozitive ajutatoare
13:58
were the most powerful hearing aids on the market at the time,
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erau cele mai puternice dispozitive de pe piata de la acea vreme,
14:00
they weren't very helpful.
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nu au fost foarte folositoare.
14:02
So as a result, I had to rely on lip reading a lot,
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Ca urmare, a trebuit sa ma bazez foarte mult pe citirea de pe buze,
14:07
and I couldn't really hear what people were saying.
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si nu puteam cu adevarat sa aud ce spuneau ceilalti.
14:09
When I was 12 years old,
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Cand aveam 12 ani,
14:11
I was one of the first few people in Singapore
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am fost unul dintre primii oameni din Singapore
14:14
who underwent cochlear implantation.
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caruia i s-a facut un test pentru implant cohlear.
14:17
And not long after I got my cochlear implant,
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Si nu mult dupa aceea am obtinut implantul cohlear
14:21
I started learning how to play piano.
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Am inceput sa invat sa cant la pian.
14:23
And it was absolutely wonderful.
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Si a fost absolut minunat.
14:25
Since then, I've never looked back.
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si de atunci, nu m-am uitat niciodata inapoi.
14:27
CL: Joseph is phenomenal. He's brilliant.
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CL: Joseph este fenomenal. este briliant.
14:29
He is now a medical student at Yale University,
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Acum este student la medicina la Universitatea Yale,
14:31
and he's contemplating a surgical career --
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si intentioneaza sa urmeze o cariera in chirurgie --
14:33
one of the first deaf individuals to consider a career in surgery.
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unul dintre primele persoane surde care iau in considerare o cariera in chirurgie.
14:36
There are almost no deaf surgeons anywhere.
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Aproape ca nu exista chirurgi surzi pe nicaieri.
14:39
And this is really unheard of stuff, and this is all because of this technology.
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Si asta chiar nu s-a mai auzit, si toate acestea datorita acestei tehnologii.
14:42
And the fact that he can play the piano like that
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Si faptul ca poate sa cante la pian in asa fel
14:44
is a testament to his brain.
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este un testament pentru creierul sau.
14:46
Truth of the matter is you can play the piano without a cochlear implant,
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Adevarul care conteaza este ca voi puteti canta la pian fara un implant cohlear,
14:49
because all you have to do is press the keys at the right time.
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pentru ca tot ce aveti de facut este sa apasati clapele la momentul potrivit.
14:51
You don't actually have to hear it.
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Nu trebuie in fond sa auziti.
14:53
I know he doesn't hear well, because I've heard him do Karaoke.
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Stiu ca nu aude bine, pentru ca l-am auzit la Karaoke.
14:56
(Laughter)
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(Rasete)
14:58
And it's one of the most awful things --
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Si este unul dintre cele mai urate lucruri --
15:01
heartwarming, but awful.
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un lucru ce te incalzeste, dar groaznic.
15:03
(Laughter)
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(Rasete)
15:05
And so there is certainly a lot of hope,
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Asa ca exista cu siguranta destula speranta
15:07
but there's a lot more that needs to be done.
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dar sunt atatea altele ce trebuiesc facute.
15:09
So I just want to conclude with the following words.
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Vreau sa concluzionez cu urmatoarele cuvinte.
15:11
When it comes to restoration of hearing,
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Cand vine vorba de restabilirea auzului,
15:13
we have certainly come a long way, a remarkably long way.
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am facut cu siguranta un drum lung, un drum remarcabil de lung.
15:16
And we have a much longer way to go
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si avem de facut mult mai mult decat pana acum.
15:19
when it comes to the idea of restoring perfect hearing.
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cand vorbim despre ideea restaurarii auzului perfect
15:21
And let me tell you right now,
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Si lasati-ma sa va spun acum,
15:23
it's fine that we would all be very happy with speech.
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este in regula ca vom fi toti foarte fericiti cu vorbirea
15:25
But I tell you, if we lost our hearing,
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Dar va spun ca, daca pierdem auzul
15:27
if anyone here suddenly lost your hearing,
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daca cineva isi pierde brusc auzul,
15:29
you would want perfect hearing back.
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veti dori inapoi auzul perfect.
15:31
You wouldn't want decent hearing, you would want perfect hearing.
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Nu veti dori un auz decent, veti dori auzul perfect.
15:34
Restoration of basic sensory function is critical.
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Restabilirea functiilor senzoriale de baza este critica.
15:37
And I don't mean to understate
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Si nu vreau sa inteleg
15:39
how important it is to restore basic function.
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cat de importanta este restabilirea functiilor de baza.
15:41
But it's really restoration of the ability to perceive beauty
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ci restabilirea cu adevarat a abilitatii de a percepe frumusetea
15:44
where we can get inspiring.
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acolo unde putem fi impresionati
15:46
And I don't think that we should give up on beauty.
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Si nu cred ca trebuie sa renuntam la frumusete.
15:48
And I want to thank you for your time.
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Si vreau sa va multumesc pentru timpul acordat
15:50
(Applause)
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(Aplauze)
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