How working couples can best support each other | The Way We Work, a TED series

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ืื ื ืœื—ืฅ ืคืขืžื™ื™ื ืขืœ ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ืœืžื˜ื” ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืคืขื™ืœ ืืช ื”ืกืจื˜ื•ืŸ.

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Transcriber: TED Translators Admin Reviewer: Camille Martรญnez
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It may sound strange to bring up work,
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ืชืจื’ื•ื: Miri Melamed ืขืจื™ื›ื”: hila scherba
ื–ื” ื ืฉืžืข ืžื•ื–ืจ ืœื“ื‘ืจ ืขืœ ืขื‘ื•ื“ื”,
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but when we fall in love,
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ืื‘ืœ ื›ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ืžืชืื”ื‘ื™ื,
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we often consider what that love will do to our life,
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ืื ื—ื ื• ืœืขืชื™ื ืงืจื•ื‘ื•ืช ืœื•ืงื—ื™ื ื‘ื—ืฉื‘ื•ืŸ ืžื” ื”ืื”ื‘ื” ื”ื–ื• ืชื’ืจื•ื ื‘ื—ื™ื™ื ื•,
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and our work and careers are a big part of that.
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ื•ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื•ื”ืงืจื™ื™ืจื•ืช ืฉืœื ื• ื”ื ื ื—ืœืง ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื‘ื–ื”.
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All working couples face hard choices,
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ื›ืœ ื”ื–ื•ื’ื•ืช ื”ืขื•ื‘ื“ื™ื ืขื•ืžื“ื™ื ื‘ืคื ื™ ื‘ื—ื™ืจื•ืช ืงืฉื•ืช,
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and these can feel like a zero-sum game.
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ื•ืืœื• ื™ื›ื•ืœื•ืช ืœื”ืจื’ื™ืฉ ืฉื”ืŸ ืื—ืช ืขืœ ื—ืฉื‘ื•ืŸ ื”ืฉื ื™ื”.
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One partner gets offered a job in another city,
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ืœืื—ื“ ืžื‘ื ื™ ื”ื–ื•ื’ ืžืฆื™ืขื™ื ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื‘ืขื™ืจ ืื—ืจืช.
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so the other needs to leave their job and start over.
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ื›ืš ืฉื”ืฉื ื™ ื—ื™ื™ื‘ ืœืขื–ื•ื‘ ืืช ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืฉืœื• ื•ืœื”ืชื—ื™ืœ ืžื—ื“ืฉ.
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One partner takes on more childcare and puts their career on hold
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ืื—ื“ ืžื‘ื ื™ ื”ื–ื•ื’ ืœื•ืงื— ืขืœ ืขืฆืžื• ื™ื•ืชืจ ื˜ื™ืคื•ืœ ื‘ื™ืœื“ื™ื ื•ืžืฉืงื™ืข ืคื—ื•ืช ื‘ืงืจื™ื™ืจื” ืฉืœื•
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so the other can pursue an exciting promotion.
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ื›ื“ื™ ืฉื‘ืŸ ื”ื–ื•ื’ ื”ืฉื ื™ ื™ื•ื›ืœ ืœื”ืฉืงื™ืข ืœืงื‘ืœืช ืงื™ื“ื•ื.
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One gains and one loses.
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ืื—ื“ ืžื”ื ืžืจื•ื•ื™ื— ื•ื”ืฉื ื™ ืžืคืกื™ื“.
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And while some couples who make these choices are satisfied,
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ื•ื‘ื–ืžืŸ ืฉื™ืฉื ื ื–ื•ื’ื•ืช ืฉืžืจื•ืฆื™ื ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืืช ื”ื‘ื—ื™ืจื•ืช ื”ืืœื”
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others regret them bitterly.
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ืื—ืจื™ื ืžืชื—ืจื˜ื™ื ืขืœื™ื”ืŸ ืžืื•ื“.
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What makes the difference?
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ืžื” ื’ื•ืจื ืœื”ื‘ื“ืœ?
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I've spent the last seven years studying working couples,
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ืื ื™ ื”ืงื“ืฉืชื™ ืืช ืฉื‘ืข ื”ืฉื ื™ื ื”ืื—ืจื•ื ื•ืช ื‘ืœื™ืžื•ื“ ื–ื•ื’ื•ืช ืขื•ื‘ื“ื™ื,
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and I've found that it's not what couples choose,
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ื•ืžืฆืืชื™ ืฉื–ื” ืœื ืžื” ืฉื–ื•ื’ื•ืช ื‘ื•ื—ืจื™ื,
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it's how they choose.
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ืืœื ืื™ืš ื”ื ื‘ื•ื—ืจื™ื.
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Of course, we can't control our circumstances,
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ืื ื—ื ื• ืœื ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ืœืฉืœื•ื˜ ื‘ื ืกื™ื‘ื•ืช,
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nor do we have limitless choices.
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ื•ื’ื ืื™ืŸ ืœื ื• ืื™ืŸ ืกื•ืฃ ื‘ืจื™ืจื•ืช.
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But for those we do,
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ืื‘ืœ ืขื ืืœื• ืฉื›ืŸ ื™ืฉ ืœื ื•,
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how can couples choose well?
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ื›ื™ืฆื“ ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ื–ื•ื’ื•ืช ืœื‘ื—ื•ืจ ื”ื™ื˜ื‘?
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First: start early, long before you have something to decide.
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ืจืืฉื™ืช: ื”ืชื—ื™ืœื• ืžื•ืงื“ื, ื”ืจื‘ื” ืœืคื ื™ ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื›ื ืžืฉื”ื• ืกืคืฆื™ืคื™ ืœื”ื—ืœื™ื˜.
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The moment you're faced with a hard choice,
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ื‘ืจื’ืข ืฉืืชื ืขื•ืžื“ื™ื ื‘ืคื ื™ ื‘ื—ื™ืจื” ืงืฉื”,
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say, whether one of you should go back to school
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ืœืžืฉืœ, ืื ืื—ื“ ืžื›ื ืฆืจื™ืš ืœื—ื–ื•ืจ ืœืœื™ืžื•ื“ื™ื,
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or take a risky job offer,
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ืื• ืœืงื‘ืœ ื”ืฆืขืช ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืœื ื‘ื˜ื•ื—ื”,
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it's too late.
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ื–ื” ื›ื‘ืจ ืžืื•ื—ืจ ืžื“ื™.
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Choosing well begins with understanding each other's aspirations early on --
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ื‘ื—ื™ืจื” ื˜ื•ื‘ื” ืžืชื—ื™ืœื” ืขื ื”ื‘ื ืช ื”ืฉืื™ืคื•ืช ืื—ื“ ืฉืœ ื”ืฉื ื™ ืžื•ืงื“ื --
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aspirations like wanting to start a small business,
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ืฉืื™ืคื•ืช ื›ืžื• ืจืฆื•ืŸ ืœื”ืงื™ื ืขืกืง ืคืจื˜ื™,
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live close to extended family,
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ืœื’ื•ืจ ืงืจื•ื‘ ืœืžืฉืคื—ื”,
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save enough money to buy a house of our own
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ืœื—ืกื•ืš ืžืกืคื™ืง ื›ืกืฃ ืœืงื ื•ืช ื‘ื™ืช ืžืฉืœื ื•
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or have another child.
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ืื• ืœืœื“ืช ื™ืœื“ ื ื•ืกืฃ.
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Many of us measure our lives by comparing what we're doing
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ืจื‘ื™ื ืžืื™ืชื ื• ื‘ื•ื—ื ื™ื ืืช ื—ื™ื™ื ื• ืขืœ-ื™ื“ื™ ื”ืฉื•ื•ืื” ืฉืœ ืžื” ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ืขื•ืฉื™ื
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with our aspirations.
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ืขื ื”ืฉืื™ืคื•ืช ืฉืœื ื•.
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When the gap is small,
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ื›ืฉื”ืคืขืจ ืงื˜ืŸ,
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we feel content.
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ืื ื—ื ื• ืžืจื•ืฆื™ื.
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When it's large,
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ื›ืฉื”ื•ื ื’ื“ื•ืœ,
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we feel unhappy.
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ืื ื—ื ื• ืžืจื’ื™ืฉื™ื ืื•ืžืœืœื™ื.
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And if we're part of a couple,
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ื•ืื ืื ื—ื ื• ื—ืœืง ืžื–ื•ื’,
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we place at least some of that blame with our partner.
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ืื ื—ื ื• ืžืืฉื™ืžื™ื, ืœืคื—ื•ืช ื—ืœืงื™ืช, ืืช ื‘ืŸ ื”ื–ื•ื’ ืฉืœื ื•.
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Set aside time at least twice a year
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ืคื ื• ืœืขืฆืžื›ื ื–ืžืŸ ืœืคื—ื•ืช ืคืขืžื™ื™ื ื‘ืฉื ื”
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to discuss your aspirations.
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ืœื“ื‘ืจ ืขืœ ื”ืฉืื™ืคื•ืช ืฉืœื›ื.
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I'm a big fan of keeping a written record of these conversations.
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ืื ื™ ืžืืžื™ื ื” ื’ื“ื•ืœื” ืฉืœ ืฉืžื™ืจืช ืจืฉื•ืžื•ืช ืฉืœ ื”ืฉื™ื—ื•ืช ื”ืืœื”.
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Putting pen to paper with our partners
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ื›ืชื™ื‘ื” ื‘ื™ื—ื“ ืขื ื‘ืŸ ื–ื•ื’ื ื•
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helps us remember each other's aspirations
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ืชืขื–ื•ืจ ืœื ื• ืœื–ื›ื•ืจ ืืช ื”ืฉืื™ืคื•ืช ืื—ื“ ืฉืœ ื”ืฉื ื™
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and that we're writing the story of our lives together.
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ื•ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ื›ื•ืชื‘ื™ื ื™ื—ื“ ืืช ื”ืกื™ืคื•ืจ ืฉืœ ื—ื™ื™ื ื• ื”ืžืฉื•ืชืคื™ื.
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Next: eliminate options
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ื”ืฆืขื“ ื”ื‘ื: ืžื—ื™ืงืช ืืคืฉืจื•ื™ื•ืช
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that don't support the life you want to live together.
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ืฉืื™ื ืŸ ืชื•ืžื›ื•ืช ื‘ื—ื™ื™ื ืฉืืชื ืจื•ืฆื™ื ืœื—ื™ื•ืช ื‘ื™ื—ื“.
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You can do this agreeing on boundaries that make hard choices easier.
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ืืชื ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœืขืฉื•ืช ื–ืืช ืชื•ืš ื”ืกื›ืžื” ืขืœ ื’ื‘ื•ืœื•ืช ืฉื™ืงืœื• ืขืœ ืœืงื™ื—ืช ื”ื—ืœื˜ื•ืช ืงืฉื•ืช.
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Boundaries like geography: Where would you like to live and work?
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ื’ื‘ื•ืœื•ืช ื›ืžื• ืžื™ืงื•ื: ืื™ืคื” ืืชื ืจื•ืฆื™ื ืœื—ื™ื•ืช ื•ืœืขื‘ื•ื“?
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Time: How many working hours a week will make family life possible?
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ื–ืžืŸ: ื›ืžื” ืฉืขื•ืช ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืฉื‘ื•ืขื™ื•ืช ื™ืืคืฉืจื• ื—ื™ื™ ืžืฉืคื—ื” ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื?
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Travel: How much work travel can you really stand?
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ื ืกื™ืขื•ืช: ืขื ื›ืžื” ื ืกื™ืขื•ืช ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืืชื ืžืกื•ื’ืœื™ื ืœื—ื™ื•ืช?
02:18
Once you've agreed to your boundaries, the choice becomes easy
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ื‘ืจื’ืข ืฉื”ื—ืœื˜ืชื ืขืœ ื”ื’ื‘ื•ืœื•ืช, ื”ื‘ื—ื™ืจื•ืช ื™ื™ืจืื• ืงืœื•ืช
02:21
when faced with an opportunity that falls outside of them.
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ื›ืฉืขื•ืžื“ื™ื ื‘ืคื ื™ ื”ื–ื“ืžื ื•ืช ืฉื ื•ืคืœืช ืžื—ื•ืฅ ืœื”ื,
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"I'm not going to interview for that job,
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"ืื ื™ ืœื ืžืชื›ื•ื•ื ืช ืœื”ืชืจืื™ื™ืŸ ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื”ื–ืืช,
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because we've agreed we don't want to move across country."
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ื‘ื’ืœืœ ืฉื”ื—ืœื˜ื ื• ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ืœื ืจื•ืฆื™ื ืœืขื‘ื•ืจ ืœื’ื•ืจ ื‘ื—ื•"ืœ."
02:29
Or, "I'm going to cut back on my overtime
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ืื•, "ืื ื™ ืžืชื›ื•ื•ืŸ ืœื—ืชื•ืš ืืช ื”ืฉืขื•ืช ื”ื ื•ืกืคื•ืช ืฉืœื™
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because we've agreed it's essential we spend more time together as a family."
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ื‘ื’ืœืœ ืฉื”ื—ืœื˜ื ื• ืฉื–ื” ื—ื™ื•ื ื™ ืฉื ื‘ืœื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ื–ืžืŸ ื‘ื™ื—ื“ ื›ืžืฉืคื—ื”."
02:35
Couples who understand each other's aspirations
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ื–ื•ื’ื•ืช ืฉืžื‘ื™ื ื™ื ืืช ื”ืฉืื™ืคื•ืช ืื—ื“ ืฉืœ ื”ืฉื ื™
02:38
and commit to strong boundaries
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ื•ืžืชื—ื™ื™ื‘ื™ื ืœื’ื‘ื•ืœื•ืช ื—ื–ืงื™ื
02:41
can let go of seemingly attractive opportunities without regret.
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ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœื•ื•ืชืจ ืขืœ ื”ื–ื“ืžื ื•ื™ื•ืช ืฉื ืจืื•ืช ืื˜ืจืงื˜ื™ื‘ื™ื•ืช ืœืœื ื—ืจื˜ื”.
02:45
If you're faced with an opportunity that falls within your boundaries,
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ืื ืืชื ืขื•ืžื“ื™ื ื‘ืคื ื™ ื”ื–ื“ืžื ื•ืช ืฉื ื•ืคืœืช ื‘ืชื•ืš ื”ื’ื‘ื•ืœื•ืช ืฉืงื‘ืขืชื,
02:49
then what matters is that the choices you make
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ืื– ืžื” ืฉื—ืฉื•ื‘ ื”ื•ื ืฉื”ื‘ื—ื™ืจื•ืช ืฉืืชื ืขื•ืฉื™ื
02:51
keep your couple in balance over time,
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ืฉื•ืžืจื•ืช ืขืœ ืฉื™ื•ื•ื™ ื”ืžืฉืงืœ ื”ื–ื•ื’ื™ ืฉืœื›ื ืœืžืฉืš ื–ืžืŸ,
02:54
even if they don't perfectly align with both partners' aspirations
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ื’ื ืื ื”ืŸ ืœื ืžืชื™ื™ืฉืจื•ืช ื‘ืฆื•ืจื” ืžื•ืฉืœืžืช ืขื ื”ืฉืื™ืคื•ืช ืฉืœ ืฉื ื™ ื‘ื ื™ ื”ื–ื•ื’
02:58
at the same time.
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ื‘ืื•ืชื• ื–ืžืŸ.
02:59
If your choices are mainly driven by one partner
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ืื ื”ื‘ื—ื™ืจื•ืช ืžื•ื ืขื•ืช ื‘ืขื™ืงืจ ืขืœ-ื™ื“ื™ ืื—ื“ ืžื‘ื ื™ ื”ื–ื•ื’
03:02
or support one partner's aspirations more than the other,
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ืื• ืชื•ืžื›ื•ืช ื‘ืฉืื™ืคื•ืช ืฉืœ ืื—ื“ ืžื‘ื ื™ ื”ื–ื•ื’ ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžื”ืฉื ื™,
03:06
an imbalance of power will develop.
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ื™ืชืคืชื— ื—ื•ืกืจ ืื™ื–ื•ืŸ ื›ื•ื—ื•ืช.
03:09
That imbalance, I've found,
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ืื ื™ ืžืฆืืชื™ ืฉื—ื•ืกืจ ื”ืื™ื–ื•ืŸ ื”ื–ื”,
03:11
is the reason most working couples who fail do so.
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ื”ื•ื ื”ืกื™ื‘ื” ืœื›ื™ืฉืœื•ืŸ ืฉืœ ืจื•ื‘ ื”ื–ื•ื’ื•ืช ื”ืขื•ื‘ื“ื™ื ืฉื ื›ืฉืœื•.
03:15
Eventually, one gets fed up with being a prop
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ืœื‘ืกื•ืฃ, ืื ืฉื™ื ืžื•ืืกื™ื ืœืฉืžืฉ ืื‘ื™ื–ืจ ื‘ืœื‘ื“
03:17
rather than a partner.
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ื‘ืžืงื•ื ืฉื•ืชืฃ.
03:19
To avoid this,
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ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ื™ืžื ืข ืžื–ื”,
03:20
track your decisions over time.
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ืขืงื‘ื• ืื—ืจื™ ื”ื”ื—ืœื˜ื•ืช ืฉืœื›ื ืœืื•ืจืš ื–ืžืŸ.
03:23
Unlike your aspirations and boundaries,
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ืฉืœื ื›ืžื• ืขื ื”ืฉืื™ืคื•ืช ื•ื”ื’ื‘ื•ืœื•ืช ืฉืœื›ื,
03:25
there's no need to keep a detailed record of every decision you make.
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ืื™ืŸ ืฆื•ืจืš ืœืฉืžื•ืจ ืจืฉื•ืžื•ืช ืžืคื•ืจื˜ื•ืช ืฉืœ ื›ืœ ื”ื—ืœื˜ื” ืฉืืชื ืขื•ืฉื™ื.
03:29
Just keep an open conversation going about how able each of you feel
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ืจืง ืฉืžืจื• ืขืœ ืฉื™ื— ืคืชื•ื— ืœื’ื‘ื™ ื›ืžื” ื›ืœ ืื—ื“ ืžื›ื ืžืจื’ื™ืฉ ื™ื›ื•ืœืช
03:33
to shape decisions that affect you both.
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ืœืขืฆื‘ ื”ื—ืœื˜ื•ืช ืฉืžืฉืคื™ืขื•ืช ืขืœ ืฉื ื™ื›ื.
03:36
How will you know you've chosen well?
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ืื™ืš ืชื“ืขื• ืฉื‘ื—ืจืชื ื”ื™ื˜ื‘?
03:39
One common misunderstanding
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ืื™-ื”ื‘ื ื” ื ืคื•ืฆื”
03:40
is that you can only know what choice is right in hindsight.
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ื”ื™ื ืฉื ื™ืชืŸ ืœื“ืขืช ืื ื”ื”ื—ืœื˜ื” ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื ื›ื•ื ื” ืจืง ื‘ื“ื™ืขื‘ื“.
03:43
And maybe it's true we judge life backwards,
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ื•ืื•ืœื™ ื–ื” ื ื›ื•ืŸ ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ืฉื•ืคื˜ื™ื ืืช ื”ื—ื™ื™ื ืื—ื•ืจื”,
03:46
but we must live it forwards.
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ืื‘ืœ ืื ื—ื ื• ื—ื™ื™ื‘ื™ื ืœื—ื™ื•ืช ืื•ืชื ืงื“ื™ืžื”.
03:48
I've found that couples who look back on a choice as a good one
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ืื ื™ ืžืฆืืชื™ ืฉื–ื•ื’ื•ืช ืฉืžื—ืฉื™ื‘ื™ื ื”ื—ืœื˜ื” ืฉื ืขืฉืชื” ื‘ืขื‘ืจ ื›ื ื›ื•ื ื”
03:51
did so not just because of the outcome eventually;
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ืขื•ืฉื™ื ื›ืš ืœื ืจืง ื‘ื’ืœืœ ื”ืชื•ืฆืื” ื”ืกื•ืคื™ืช;
03:54
they did it because that choice empowered them individually and as a couple
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ื”ื ืขื•ืฉื™ื ื–ืืช ื‘ื’ืœืœ ืฉื”ื‘ื—ื™ืจื” ื”ืขืฆื™ืžื” ืื•ืชื ื›ื™ื—ื™ื“ื™ื ื•ื›ื–ื•ื’
03:59
as they made it.
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ื‘ื–ืžืŸ ืฉืขืฉื• ืื•ืชื”.
04:00
It wasn't what they chose,
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ื–ื” ืœื ืžื” ืฉื”ื ื‘ื—ืจื•,
04:02
it was that they were choosing deliberately,
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ืืœื ืฉื”ื ื‘ื—ืจื• ืžืชื•ืš ื›ื•ื•ื ื”,
04:05
and that made them feel closer and freer together.
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ื•ื–ื” ื’ืจื ืœื”ื ืœื”ืจื’ื™ืฉ ืงืจื•ื‘ื™ื ื•ื—ื•ืคืฉื™ื™ื ื™ื•ืชืจ ื‘ื™ื—ื“.
ืขืœ ืืชืจ ื–ื”

ืืชืจ ื–ื” ื™ืฆื™ื’ ื‘ืคื ื™ื›ื ืกืจื˜ื•ื ื™ YouTube ื”ืžื•ืขื™ืœื™ื ืœืœื™ืžื•ื“ ืื ื’ืœื™ืช. ืชื•ื›ืœื• ืœืจืื•ืช ืฉื™ืขื•ืจื™ ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ื”ืžื•ืขื‘ืจื™ื ืขืœ ื™ื“ื™ ืžื•ืจื™ื ืžื”ืฉื•ืจื” ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ืžืจื—ื‘ื™ ื”ืขื•ืœื. ืœื—ืฅ ืคืขืžื™ื™ื ืขืœ ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ื”ืžื•ืฆื’ื•ืช ื‘ื›ืœ ื“ืฃ ื•ื™ื“ืื• ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืคืขื™ืœ ืืช ื”ืกืจื˜ื•ืŸ ืžืฉื. ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื’ื•ืœืœื•ืช ื‘ืกื ื›ืจื•ืŸ ืขื ื”ืคืขืœืช ื”ื•ื•ื™ื“ืื•. ืื ื™ืฉ ืœืš ื”ืขืจื•ืช ืื• ื‘ืงืฉื•ืช, ืื ื ืฆื•ืจ ืื™ืชื ื• ืงืฉืจ ื‘ืืžืฆืขื•ืช ื˜ื•ืคืก ื™ืฆื™ืจืช ืงืฉืจ ื–ื”.

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