How working couples can best support each other | The Way We Work, a TED series

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How working couples can best support each other | The Way We Work, a TED series

90,191 views ใƒป 2020-11-28

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ไธ‹ใฎ่‹ฑ่ชžๅญ—ๅน•ใ‚’ใƒ€ใƒ–ใƒซใ‚ฏใƒชใƒƒใ‚ฏใ™ใ‚‹ใจๅ‹•็”ปใ‚’ๅ†็”Ÿใงใใพใ™ใ€‚

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Transcriber: TED Translators Admin Reviewer: Camille Martรญnez
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It may sound strange to bring up work,
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็ฟป่จณ: Moe Shoji ๆ กๆญฃ: Yoshinori Yasuda
ไป•ไบ‹ใฎ่ฉฑใ‚’ๆŒใกๅ‡บใ™ใฎใฏ ๅค‰ใซๆ€ใˆใฆใ‚‚
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but when we fall in love,
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ๆ‹ๆ„›ใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ใจ
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we often consider what that love will do to our life,
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ใใฎๆ‹ใŒไบบ็”Ÿใซใฉใ‚“ใชๅฝฑ้Ÿฟใ‚’ๅŠใผใ™ใ‹ ่€ƒใˆใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใ‚ˆใใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™
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and our work and careers are a big part of that.
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ๅฎŸใฏ ไป•ไบ‹ใ‚„ใ‚ญใƒฃใƒชใ‚ขใฏ ๆ‹ๆ„›ใ‹ใ‚‰ๅคงใใชๅฝฑ้Ÿฟใ‚’ๅ—ใ‘ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ™
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[The Way We Work]
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๏ผปใ‚ทใƒชใƒผใ‚บ ๅƒใๆ–น๏ผฝ
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All working couples face hard choices,
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ๅ…ฑๅƒใใ‚ซใƒƒใƒ—ใƒซใฏ็š† ๅŽณใ—ใ„้ธๆŠžใ‚’่ฟซใ‚‰ใ‚Œ
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and these can feel like a zero-sum game.
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่ชฐใ‚‚ๅพ—ใ‚’ใ—ใชใ„ใ‚ˆใ†ใซ ๆ„Ÿใ˜ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†
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One partner gets offered a job in another city,
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ไธ€ไบบใŒๅˆฅใฎ่ก—ใง่ทใ‚’ๅพ—ใŸใ‚‰
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so the other needs to leave their job and start over.
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ใ‚‚ใ†ไธ€ไบบใŒ้€€่ทใ—ใฆ ๅ†ใ‚นใ‚ฟใƒผใƒˆใ‚’่ฟซใ‚‰ใ‚ŒใŸใ‚Š
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One partner takes on more childcare and puts their career on hold
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ไธ€ไบบใŒๅญ่‚ฒใฆใ‚’ๆ‹…ใ„ ไป•ไบ‹ใ‚’ไผ‘ๆญขใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใง
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so the other can pursue an exciting promotion.
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ใ‚‚ใ†ไธ€ไบบใŒๆ˜‡้€ฒใ‚’ ็›ฎๆŒ‡ใ—ใŸใ‚Šใงใใ‚‹ใฎใงใ™
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One gains and one loses.
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ๅ‹ใก่ฒ ใ‘ใŒๅ‡บใฆใ—ใพใ†ใฎใงใ™
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And while some couples who make these choices are satisfied,
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ใ“ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใช้ธๆŠžใซ ๆบ€่ถณใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ซใƒƒใƒ—ใƒซใ‚‚ใ„ใพใ™ใŒ
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others regret them bitterly.
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ใฒใฉใๅพŒๆ‚”ใ™ใ‚‹ใ‚ซใƒƒใƒ—ใƒซใ‚‚ใ„ใพใ™
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What makes the difference?
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้•ใ„ใฏไฝ•ใชใฎใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†๏ผŸ
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I've spent the last seven years studying working couples,
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ใ“ใ“๏ผ—ๅนด้–“ ๅ…ฑๅƒใใ‚ซใƒƒใƒ—ใƒซใ‚’็ ”็ฉถใ—ใฆ
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and I've found that it's not what couples choose,
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ๅˆ†ใ‹ใฃใŸใฎใฏ ้‡่ฆใชใฎใฏไฝ•ใ‚’้ธใถใ‹ใงใฏใชใ
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it's how they choose.
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ใฉใ†้ธใถใ‹ใ ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™
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Of course, we can't control our circumstances,
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ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ ็Šถๆณใ‚’ ใ‚ณใƒณใƒˆใƒญใƒผใƒซใงใใพใ›ใ‚“ใ—
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nor do we have limitless choices.
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้ธๆŠž่‚ขใŒ็„ก้™ใซ ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚ใ‘ใงใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“
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But for those we do,
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ใงใ‚‚ ้ธๆŠžใ™ใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆ
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how can couples choose well?
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ใฉใ†ใ‚„ใฃใฆไธŠๆ‰‹ใ ้ธในใฐใ„ใ„ใฎใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†๏ผŸ
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First: start early, long before you have something to decide.
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ใใฎ๏ผ‘ ๆฑบๆ–ญใ‚’่ฟซใ‚‰ใ‚Œใ‚‹ ใšใฃใจๅ‰ใซ่€ƒใˆๅง‹ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจ
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The moment you're faced with a hard choice,
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ๅŽณใ—ใ„้ธๆŠžใ‚’่ฟซใ‚‰ใ‚Œใ‚‹ๆ™‚ใซใฏใƒผ
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say, whether one of you should go back to school
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ๅญฆๆฅญใซๅพฉๅธฐใ™ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใจใ‹
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or take a risky job offer,
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ใƒชใ‚นใ‚ฏใ‚’ไผดใ†่ทใซๅฐฑใใจใ‹โ€•
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it's too late.
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ใ™ใงใซ้…ใ„ใฎใงใ™
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Choosing well begins with understanding each other's aspirations early on --
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ไธŠๆ‰‹ใช้ธๆŠžใฎ็ฌฌไธ€ๆญฉใฏ ใŠไบ’ใ„ใฎๆœ›ใฟใ‚’ๆ—ฉใ‚ใซ็†่งฃใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใงใ™
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aspirations like wanting to start a small business,
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ไพ‹ใˆใฐ ๅฐใ•ใชใƒ“ใ‚ธใƒใ‚นใ‚’ๅง‹ใ‚ใŸใ„ใจใ‹
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live close to extended family,
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่ฆชๆˆšใฎใใฐใงๆšฎใ‚‰ใ—ใŸใ„ใจใ‹
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save enough money to buy a house of our own
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ๅฎถใ‚’่ฒทใ†ใŸใ‚ใซ่ฒฏ้‡‘ใ—ใŸใ„ใจใ‹
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or have another child.
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ใ‚‚ใ†ไธ€ไบบๅญไพ›ใŒใปใ—ใ„ใชใฉใงใ™
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Many of us measure our lives by comparing what we're doing
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ๅคšใใฎไบบใฏ ่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎๆœ›ใฟใจ ็พ็Šถใ‚’ๆฏ”ในใฆ
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with our aspirations.
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ไบบ็”Ÿใ‚’ๆธฌใ‚Šใพใ™
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When the gap is small,
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ใใฎๅทฎใŒๅฐใ•ใ‘ใ‚Œใฐ
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we feel content.
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ๆบ€่ถณใ‚’่ฆšใˆใพใ™ใŒ
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When it's large,
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ใใฎๅทฎใŒๅคงใใ‘ใ‚Œใฐ
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we feel unhappy.
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ไธๅนธใ ใจๆ„Ÿใ˜ใพใ™
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And if we're part of a couple,
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ใใ—ใฆ ใ‚ซใƒƒใƒ—ใƒซใงใ‚ใ‚Œใฐ
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we place at least some of that blame with our partner.
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ใใฎ่ฒฌไปปใฎไธ€็ซฏใ‚’ ็›ธๆ‰‹ใซๆŠผใ—ไป˜ใ‘ใฆใ—ใพใ†ใฎใงใ™
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Set aside time at least twice a year
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๏ผ‘ๅนดใซๅฐ‘ใชใใจใ‚‚๏ผ’ๅ›žใฏ ๆ™‚้–“ใ‚’่จญใ‘ใฆ
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to discuss your aspirations.
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่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎๆœ›ใฟใ‚’่ฉฑใ—ๅˆใ„ใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†
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I'm a big fan of keeping a written record of these conversations.
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็งใฏใ“ใ†ใ„ใ†ไผš่ฉฑใฎ่จ˜้Œฒใฏ ๅธธใซๆ›ธใ็•™ใ‚ใฆใŠใใพใ™
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Putting pen to paper with our partners
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ใƒ‘ใƒผใƒˆใƒŠใƒผใจไธ€็ท’ใซ ็ด™ใซๆ›ธใ็•™ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใง
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helps us remember each other's aspirations
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ใŠไบ’ใ„ใฎๆœ›ใฟใ‚’ ๆ€ใ„่ตทใ“ใ—ใ‚„ใ™ใใชใ‚Š
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and that we're writing the story of our lives together.
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ไธ€็ท’ใซไบบ็”Ÿใฎ็‰ฉ่ชžใ‚’ ใ—ใŸใŸใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใ‚‚ใชใ‚Šใพใ™
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Next: eliminate options
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ใใฎ๏ผ’ ไธ€็ท’ใซ้€ใ‚ŠใŸใ„ไบบ็”Ÿใ‚’ ๅฆจใ’ใ‚‹้ธๆŠž่‚ขใ‚’ใชใใ—ใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†
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that don't support the life you want to live together.
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You can do this agreeing on boundaries that make hard choices easier.
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้›ฃใ—ใ„้ธๆŠžใ‚’ใ‚ˆใ‚Š็ฐกๅ˜ใซใ™ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใซ ๆกไปถใ‚’ๆฑบใ‚ใฆใŠใใจใ„ใ„ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†
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Boundaries like geography: Where would you like to live and work?
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ไพ‹ใˆใฐๅœฐ็†็š„ๆกไปถใงใ™ ใฉใ“ใซไฝใ‚“ใงๅƒใใŸใ„ใ‹๏ผŸ
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Time: How many working hours a week will make family life possible?
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ๆ™‚้–“็š„ๆกไปถใชใ‚‰ ้€ฑไฝ•ๆ™‚้–“ๅŠดๅƒใชใ‚‰ๅฎถๆ—ใจใฎๆ™‚้–“ใ‚’้Žใ”ใ›ใ‚‹ใ‹๏ผŸ
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Travel: How much work travel can you really stand?
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็งปๅ‹•ๆกไปถใชใ‚‰ ไป•ไบ‹ใงใฉใ‚Œใใ‚‰ใ„ใชใ‚‰็งปๅ‹•ใงใใ‚‹ใ‹๏ผŸ
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Once you've agreed to your boundaries, the choice becomes easy
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ๆกไปถใ‚’ๆฑบใ‚ใฆใŠใใจ ๅทกใฃใฆใใŸๆฉŸไผšใŒ
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when faced with an opportunity that falls outside of them.
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ใใฎๆกไปถใซๅฝ“ใฆใฏใพใ‚‰ใชใ„ๅ ดๅˆ ้ธๆŠžใŒใ—ใ‚„ใ™ใใชใ‚Šใพใ™
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"I'm not going to interview for that job,
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ใ€Œใ‚ใฎไป•ไบ‹ใฎ้ขๆŽฅใซใฏ่กŒใ‹ใชใ„
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because we've agreed we don't want to move across country."
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้ ใใธใฏๅผ•ใฃ่ถŠใ—ใŸใใชใ„ใจ ๆฑบใ‚ใฆใ„ใŸใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ใจใ‹
02:29
Or, "I'm going to cut back on my overtime
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ใ€Œๆฎ‹ๆฅญใฏๆธ›ใ‚‰ใ™ใ“ใจใซใ—ใ‚ˆใ†
02:31
because we've agreed it's essential we spend more time together as a family."
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ๅฎถๆ—ใงไธ€็ท’ใซ้Žใ”ใ™ใฎใŒๅคงไบ‹ใ ใจ ๆฑบใ‚ใฆใ„ใŸใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ใชใฉใงใ™
02:35
Couples who understand each other's aspirations
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ใŠไบ’ใ„ใฎๆœ›ใฟใ‚’ใ‚ˆใ็†่งฃใ—
02:38
and commit to strong boundaries
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ๆกไปถใ‚’ใใกใ‚“ใจๅฎˆใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‚ซใƒƒใƒ—ใƒซใฏ
02:41
can let go of seemingly attractive opportunities without regret.
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ไธ€่ฆ‹้ญ…ๅŠ›็š„ใซ่ฆ‹ใˆใ‚‹ๆฉŸไผšใ‚‚ ๅพŒๆ‚”ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใชใๆ–ญใ‚Œใพใ™
02:45
If you're faced with an opportunity that falls within your boundaries,
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ๆกไปถใ‚’ๆบ€ใŸใ™ๆฉŸไผšใŒ ๅทกใฃใฆใใŸๆ™‚ใซ
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then what matters is that the choices you make
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้‡่ฆใชใฎใฏ ไบŒไบบใฎ้ธๆŠžใŒ
02:51
keep your couple in balance over time,
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้•ทใ„็›ฎใง่ฆ‹ใŸๆ™‚ใซ ไธก่€…ใซๅ…ฌๅนณใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใงใ‚ใฃใฆ
02:54
even if they don't perfectly align with both partners' aspirations
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ใ‚ใ‚‹้ธๆŠžใŒๅŒๆ™‚ใซไธก่€…ใฎๆœ›ใฟใ‚’ ๅฎŒ็’งใซๅถใˆใชใใฆใ‚‚
02:58
at the same time.
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ๆง‹ใ‚ใชใ„ใฎใงใ™
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If your choices are mainly driven by one partner
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ใ‚‚ใ—ไบŒไบบใฎ้ธๆŠžใŒ ็‰‡ๆ–นใซใ‚ˆใฃใฆใชใ•ใ‚ŒใŸใ‚Š
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or support one partner's aspirations more than the other,
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็‰‡ๆ–นใฎๆœ›ใฟใ‚’ ้‡่ฆ–ใ™ใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใฎใงใ‚ใ‚Œใฐ
03:06
an imbalance of power will develop.
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ๅŠ›ใฎไธๅ‡่กกใŒ็”Ÿใพใ‚Œใพใ™
03:09
That imbalance, I've found,
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็งใฎ็ ”็ฉถใซใ‚ˆใ‚‹ใจ ใใฎไธๅ‡่กกใ“ใใŒ
03:11
is the reason most working couples who fail do so.
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ๅ…ฑๅƒใใ‚ซใƒƒใƒ—ใƒซใŒ ไธŠๆ‰‹ใใ„ใ‹ใชใใชใ‚‹ๅŽŸๅ› ใงใ™
03:15
Eventually, one gets fed up with being a prop
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็‰‡ๆ–นใŒใƒ‘ใƒผใƒˆใƒŠใƒผใงใฏใชใ ใŠ้ฃพใ‚Šใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซ
03:17
rather than a partner.
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ๅซŒๆฐ—ใŒใ•ใ—ใฆใใ‚‹ใฎใงใ™
03:19
To avoid this,
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ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚’้ฟใ‘ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใซใฏ
03:20
track your decisions over time.
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ไบŒไบบใŒไธ‹ใ™ๆฑบๆ–ญใ‚’ ้•ทใ„็›ฎใงใŸใฉใฃใฆใ‚†ใใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†
03:23
Unlike your aspirations and boundaries,
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ๆœ›ใฟใ‚„ๆกไปถใจ้•ใฃใฆ
03:25
there's no need to keep a detailed record of every decision you make.
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ๆฑบๆ–ญใ‚’ใ™ในใฆ็ดฐใ‹ใซ ่จ˜้Œฒใ™ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“
03:29
Just keep an open conversation going about how able each of you feel
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ใŸใ  ไธก่€…ใซๅฝฑ้Ÿฟใ™ใ‚‹ๆฑบๆ–ญใซ ๅ„ใ€…ใŒๅ‚ๅŠ ใงใใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ„Ÿใ˜ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใฏ
03:33
to shape decisions that affect you both.
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็Ž‡็›ดใซ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ‚†ใใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†
03:36
How will you know you've chosen well?
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่‰ฏใ„้ธๆŠžใ ใฃใŸใ‹ใ‚’ ใฉใ†ๅˆคๆ–ญใงใใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†๏ผŸ
03:39
One common misunderstanding
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ใ‚ˆใใ‚ใ‚‹่ชค่งฃใฎใฒใจใคใฏ
03:40
is that you can only know what choice is right in hindsight.
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ไฝ•ใŒๆญฃใ—ใ„้ธๆŠžใชใฎใ‹ใฏ ๅพŒใ‹ใ‚‰ใ—ใ‹ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚‰ใชใ„ใจใ„ใ†ใ‚‚ใฎใงใ™
03:43
And maybe it's true we judge life backwards,
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็ขบใ‹ใซ ไบบ็”Ÿใ‚’ๆŒฏใ‚Š่ฟ”ใฃใฆ ๅˆคๆ–ญใ™ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒ
03:46
but we must live it forwards.
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ๆœชๆฅใ‚’ๅ‘ใ„ใฆ็”Ÿใใ‚‹ในใใงใ™
03:48
I've found that couples who look back on a choice as a good one
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ใ‚ใ‚‹้ธๆŠžใ‚’ใ€Œ่‰ฏใ‹ใฃใŸใ€ใจ ๆŒฏใ‚Š่ฟ”ใ‚‹ใ‚ซใƒƒใƒ—ใƒซใฏ
03:51
did so not just because of the outcome eventually;
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็ตๆžœใ ใ‘ใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆ ใใ†่€ƒใˆใŸใฎใงใฏใชใ
03:54
they did it because that choice empowered them individually and as a couple
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้ธๆŠžใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹้Ž็จ‹ใงๅ€‹ไบบใพใŸใ‚ซใƒƒใƒ—ใƒซใจใ—ใฆ ๅŠ›ใฅใ‘ใ‚‰ใ‚ŒใŸใ‹ใ‚‰ใ“ใ
03:59
as they made it.
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ใใ†่€ƒใˆใŸใฎใงใ™
04:00
It wasn't what they chose,
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้‡่ฆใชใฎใฏไฝ•ใ‚’้ธใ‚“ใ ใ‹ใงใฏใชใ
04:02
it was that they were choosing deliberately,
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ใ‚ซใƒƒใƒ—ใƒซใŒๆ™‚้–“ใ‚’ใ‹ใ‘ ๆ…Ž้‡ใซ้ธๆŠžใ—ใŸใ“ใจใงใ‚ใ‚Š
04:05
and that made them feel closer and freer together.
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ใใฎ็ตๆžœ ไบŒไบบใฏ ใ‚ˆใ‚Š่ฆชๅฏ†ใ‹ใค่‡ช็”ฑใซใชใ‚ŒใŸใฎใงใ™
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