Dave deBronkart: Meet e-Patient Dave

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Nevjerojatno, ovdje smo da bismo govorili
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It's an amazing thing
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that we're here to talk about the year of patients rising.
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o godini jačanja uloge pacijenata.
Ranije danas čuli ste priče
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You heard stories earlier today
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o pacijentima koji preuzimaju kontrolu nad slučajevima,
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about patients who are taking control of their cases,
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koji govore: "Svjestan sam kolike su šanse,
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patients who are saying,
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"You know what, I know what the odds are,
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ali potražit ću dodatne informacije.
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but I'm going to look for more information.
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Ja ću utvrditi
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I'm going to define what the terms of my success are."
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uvjete potrebne da uspijem."
Podijelit ću s vama
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I'm going to be sharing with you how, four years ago, I almost died --
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kako sam prije četiri godine gotovo umro --
doznao da sam zapravo
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found out I was, in fact, already almost dead --
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već gotovo mrtav
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and what I then found out
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te kako sam saznao za tzv. pokret e-pacijenata --
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about what's called the e-Patient movement.
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objasnit ću taj pojam.
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I'll explain what that term means.
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Pisao sam blog pod imenom Pacijent Dave,
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I had been blogging under the name "Patient Dave,"
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and when I discovered this,
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no kada sam otkrio ovo,
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I just renamed myself e-Patient Dave.
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promijenio sam ime u e-pacijent Dave.
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Regarding the word "patient":
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Što se tiče riječi "pacijent",
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When I first started a few years ago getting involved in health care
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kada sam se prije nekoliko godina
uključio u zdravstvenu skrb
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and attending meetings as just a casual observer,
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i počeo prisustvovati sastancima kao promatrač,
primijetio sam da ljudi govore o pacijentima
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I noticed that people would talk about patients
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kao o nekome tko se ne nalazi u prostoriji,
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as if it was somebody who's not in the room here --
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somebody out there.
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nekome tko je negdje daleko.
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Some of our talks today, we still act like that.
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I u nekim govorima danas ponašamo se tako.
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But I'm here to tell you:
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Ja sam ovdje da vas uvjerim,
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"patient" is not a third-person word.
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"pacijent" nije neka treća osoba.
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All right?
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Vi sami
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You yourself will find yourself in a hospital bed --
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naći ćete se u bolničkom krevetu --
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or your mother, your child --
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ili vaša majka, vaše dijete --
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there are heads nodding, people who say,
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vidim kimanje glavama, ljudi govore: "Znam o čemu govoriš."
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"Yes, I know exactly what you mean."
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01:27
So when you hear what I'm going to talk about here today,
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Kada čujete o čemu ću govoriti danas,
prije svega želim reći
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first of all, I want to say that I am here
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da sam ovdje u ime
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on behalf of all the patients that I have ever met,
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svih pacijenata koje sam upoznao,
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all the ones I haven't met.
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i onih koje nisam upoznao.
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This is about letting patients play a more active role
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Želim da se pacijenti aktivnije uključe
u popravljanje zdravstvene skrbi.
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in helping health care, in fixing health care.
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Jedan od iskusnijih liječnika u mojoj bolnici,
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One of the senior doctors at my hospital,
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Charlie Safran, i njegov kolega Warner Slack
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Charlie Safran, and his colleague, Warner Slack,
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have been saying for decades
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već desetljećima govore
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that the most underutilized resource in all of health care
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da je najmanje korišten resurs u zdravstvu
pacijent.
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is the patient.
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01:56
They have been saying that since the 1970s.
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To govore još od 1970-ih.
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Now, I'm going to step back in history.
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Sada ću se vratiti u prošlost.
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This is from July, 1969.
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U srpanj 1969.
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I was a freshman in college,
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Bio sam brucoš na fakultetu
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and this was when we first landed on the Moon.
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kada smo prvi put sletjeli na Mjesec.
Prvi smo put
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And it was the first time
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02:09
we had ever seen from another surface --
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s druge površine vidjeli --
mjesto na kojemu smo upravo sad,
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that's the place where you and I are right now,
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na kojemu živimo.
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where we live.
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02:15
The world was changing.
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Svijet se mijenjao.
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It was about to change in ways that nobody could foresee.
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Slijedile su promjene koje nitko nije mogao predvidjeti.
02:20
A few weeks later, Woodstock happened.
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Nekoliko tjedana kasnije
dogodio se Woodstock.
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Three days of fun and music.
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Tri dana zabave i glazbe.
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Here, just for historical authenticity,
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Isključivo radi povijesne vjerodostojnosti
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is a picture of me in that year.
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ovo sam ja te godine.
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
02:33
Yeah, the wavy hair, the blue eyes --
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Da, valovita kosa, plave oči --
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it was really something.
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to je bilo nešto posebno.
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That fall of 1969,
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Te jeseni 1969.
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the Whole Earth Catalog came out.
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izašao je Katalog cijele Zemlje.
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It was a hippie journal of self-sufficiency.
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Bio je to hipijevski časopis samodostatnosti.
Mislimo da su hipiji samo hedonisti,
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We think of hippies of being just hedonists,
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no postoji snažan element, bio sam u tom pokretu,
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but there's a very strong component -- I was in that movement --
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veoma snažan element
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a very strong component of being responsible for yourself.
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odgovornosti za samoga sebe.
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This book's title's subtitle is "Access to Tools."
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Podnaslov ove knjige
je "Pristup alatima".
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It talked about how to build your own house,
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Objašnjava kako sagraditi vlastitu kuću,
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how to grow your own food, all kinds of things.
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uzgajati vlastitu hranu, razne stvari.
U 1980-ima
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In the 1980s,
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this young doctor, Tom Ferguson,
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ovaj liječnik, Tom Ferguson,
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was the medical editor of the Whole Earth Catalog.
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bio je medicinski urednik Kataloga cijele Zemlje.
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He saw that the great majority of what we do in medicine and health care
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Shvatio je da većinu
onoga što radimo u medicini i zdravstvu
čini briga za nas same.
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is taking care of ourselves.
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Rekao je da se radi o 70 do 80 posto
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In fact, he said it was 70 to 80 percent
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03:18
of how we actually take care of our bodies.
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od toga koliko se stvarno brinemo za svoje tijelo.
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Well, he also saw that when health care turns to medical care
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Također je shvatio
da kada zdravstvena skrb postane medicinska
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because of a more serious disease,
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zbog ozbiljnije bolesti
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the key thing that holds us back is access to information.
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ključni čimbenik koji nas koči je pristup informacijama.
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And when the Web came along, that changed everything,
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Pojava interneta sve je promjenila.
Ne samo da smo mogli naći informacije,
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because not only could we find information,
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03:36
we could find other people like ourselves
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nego i ljude slične nama
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who could gather, who could bring us information.
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koji mogu sakupiti i pružiti nam informacije.
On je skovao termin e-pacijent --
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And he coined this term "e-Patients" --
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03:44
equipped, engaged, empowered, enabled.
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opremljen, angažiran, osnažen, osposobljen.
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Obviously, at this stage of life
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Očito je u ovoj fazi života
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he was in a somewhat more dignified form than he was back then.
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bio u dostojanstvenijem stanju nego tada.
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Now, I was an engaged patient long before I ever heard of the term.
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Ja sam bio angažirani pacijent
prije nego što sam čuo za taj termin.
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In 2006, I went to my doctor for a regular physical,
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2006. sam otišao liječniku na redoviti pregled
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and I had said, "I have a sore shoulder."
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i rekao da me boli rame.
Poslao me na snimanje
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Well, I got an X-ray,
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04:03
and the next morning --
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i sljedeće jutro --
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you may have noticed, those of you who have been through a medical crisis
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možda ste primijetili, oni koji su prošli medicinsku krizu
shvatit će.
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will understand this.
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To jutro, neki govornici
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This morning, some of the speakers named the date when they found out
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naveli su datum kada su doznali za svoje stanje.
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about their condition.
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04:15
For me, it was 9am
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Za mene to je bilo 9:00 h
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on January 3, 2007.
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3. siječnja 2007.
Bio sam u uredu. Moj radni stol je bio uredan.
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I was at the office; my desk was clean.
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Imao sam plavi pregradni tepih na zidovima.
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I had the blue partition carpet on the walls.
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Telefon je zazvonio. Moj liječnik.
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The phone rang and it was my doctor.
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Rekao je: "Pogledao sam rendgensku snimku
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He said, "Dave, I pulled up the X-ray image
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na ekranu svog računala kod kuće."
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on the screen on the computer at home."
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Rekao je: "Tvoje rame će biti u redu,
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He said, "Your shoulder is going to be fine,
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ali imaš nešto u plućnom krilu."
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but Dave, there's something in your lung."
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Pogledajte crvenu elipsu,
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And if you look in that red oval,
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sjena nije trebala biti ondje.
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that shadow was not supposed to be there.
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Da skratim priču,
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To make a long story short,
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rekao sam: "Trebam doći u bolnicu?"
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I said, "So you need me to get back in there?"
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Rekao je: "Da, morat ćemo napraviti CT prsnog koša."
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He said, "Yeah, we're going to need to do a CT scan of your chest."
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Pri pozdravljanju sam rekao: "Trebam li što učiniti?"
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In parting, I said, "Is there anything I should do?"
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Rekao je -- razmislite o ovome.
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He said -- think about this one,
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Ovo je savjet koji ćete dobiti od liječnika.
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this is the advice your doctor gives you:
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"Idite kući i popijte čašu vina sa suprugom."
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"Just go home and have a glass of wine with your wife."
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Otišao sam na CAT snimanje
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I went in for the CAT scan.
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It turns out there were five of these things in both my lungs.
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i otkrili su da ih je pet u oba plućna krila.
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So at that point we knew that it was cancer.
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Tada smo shvatili da se radi o raku.
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We knew it wasn't lung cancer.
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Znali smo da nije rak pluća.
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That meant it was metastasized from somewhere.
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Što znači da je metastazirao odnekuda.
Pitanje je bilo otkuda.
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The question was, where from?
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05:20
So I went in for an ultrasound.
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Otišao sam na ultrazvuk.
Imao sam priliku isprobati što i većina žena --
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I got to do what many women have --
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05:25
the jelly on the belly and the, "Bzzzz!"
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gel na trbuhu i bzzzz.
Supruga je išla sa mnom.
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My wife came with me.
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Ona je veterinarka,
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She's a veterinarian,
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so she's seen lots of ultrasounds.
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vidjela je mnogo ultrazvučnih pregleda.
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I mean, she knows I'm not a dog.
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Mislim, jasno joj je da nisam pas.
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(Laughter)
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05:37
This is an MRI image.
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Ono što smo vidjeli -- ovo je MRI snimka.
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This is much sharper than an ultrasound would be.
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Mnogo je oštrija od ultrazvuka.
U bubregu smo vidjeli
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What we saw in that kidney
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ovu veliku nakupinu ovdje.
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was that big blob there.
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Zapravo dvije.
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There were actually two of these: one was growing out the front
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Jedna je rasla sprijeda,
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and had already erupted and latched onto the bowel.
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već je buknula i uhvatila se za crijevo,
jedna sa stražnje strane i pričvrstila se za listoliki mišić,
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One was growing out the back and it attached to the psoas muscle,
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veliki mišić u leđima za koji nikad nisam čuo,
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which is a big muscle in the back that I'd never heard of,
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no odjednom mi je postao važan.
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but all of a sudden I cared about it.
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06:01
(Laughter)
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Otišao sam kući.
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I went home.
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06:03
Now, I've been Googling --
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Pretraživao sam internet pomoću Googlea, koristim internet od 1989.
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I've been online since 1989, on CompuServe.
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Otišao sam kući. Znam da ne vidite sve;
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I went home, and I know you can't read the details here;
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nije važno.
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that's not important.
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06:10
My point is, I went to a respected medical website, WebMD,
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Posjetio sam jednu cijenjenu medicinsku stranicu,
WebMD,
jer znam kako odvojiti nebitno.
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because I know how to filter out junk.
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06:17
I also found my wife online.
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I ženu sam pronašao na internetu.
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Before I met her,
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Prije nego sam je upoznao,
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I went through some suboptimal search results.
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isprobao sam neke lošije rezultate pretrage.
(Smijeh)
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(Laughter)
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06:25
So I looked for quality information.
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Tražio sam kvalitetne informacije.
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There's so much about trust --
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Povjerenje je iznimno važno --
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what sources of information can we trust?
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kojim izvorima možemo vjerovati?
Gdje prestaje moje tijelo
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Where does my body end and an invader start?
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i počinje uljez?
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A cancer, a tumor, is something you grow out of your own tissue.
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Rak, odnosno tumor, razvija se iz vašeg vlastitog tkiva.
Kako se to događa?
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How does that happen?
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06:42
Where does medical ability end and start?
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Gdje moć medicine
prestaje i započinje?
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Well, so what I read on WebMD:
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Na WebMD-u sam pročitao:
"Prognoza je veoma loša
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"The prognosis is poor for progressing renal cell cancer.
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za progresivni rak bubrežnih stanica.
Gotovo su svi pacijenti neizlječivi."
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Almost all patients are incurable."
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Koristim se internetom dovoljno dugo
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I've been online long enough to know if I don't like the first results I get,
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i ako mi se ne svide prvi rezultati
nastavljam tražiti.
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I go look for more.
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07:02
And what I found on other websites was,
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Ono što sam našao bilo je na drugim stranicama,
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even by the third page of Google results:
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čak na trećoj stranici rezultata na Googleu:
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"Outlook is bleak."
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"Izgledi su slabi."
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"Prognosis is grim."
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"Prognoza je nepovoljna."
Razmišljao sam: "Baš me briga!"
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And I'm thinking, "What the heck?"
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Nisam se osjećao bolesno.
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I didn't feel sick at all.
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Navečer bih postao umoran,
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I mean, I'd been getting tired in the evening,
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ali imao sam 56 godina.
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but I was 56 years old, you know?
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Polako sam mršavio,
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I was slowly losing weight,
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no liječnik mi je rekao da trebam smršaviti.
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but for me, that was what the doctor told me to do.
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Bila je to velika stvar.
07:26
It was really something.
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07:27
And this is the diagram of stage 4 kidney cancer
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Ovo je prikaz četvrtog stadija raka bubrega
od lijeka koji sam na kraju dobio.
07:31
from the drug I eventually got.
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07:32
Totally by coincidence, there's that thing in my lung.
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Slučajno se ta stvar nalazi u mom plućnom krilu.
U lijevoj bedrenoj kosti nalazi se još jedna.
07:36
In the left femur, the left thigh bone, there's another one.
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Ja sam imao jednu. Noga mi je otkazala.
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I had one. My leg eventually snapped.
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Onesvijestio sam se, pao na nju i slomio je.
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I fainted and landed on it, and it broke.
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Jedna se nalazi u lubanji,
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There's one in the skull,
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07:45
and then for good measure, I had these other tumors,
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kao da to nije dovoljno, imao sam još tumora --
uključujući, dok je liječenje započelo,
07:48
including, by the time my treatment started,
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jedan koji se razvijao iz jezika.
07:50
one was growing out of my tongue.
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07:51
I had kidney cancer growing out of my tongue.
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Rak bubrega razvijao mi se iz jezika.
07:53
And what I read
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Pročitao sam da su mi preostala
07:55
was that my median survival was 24 weeks.
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u prosjeku 24 tjedna.
To je bilo loše.
07:58
This was bad.
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07:59
I was facing the grave.
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Gledao sam smrti u oči.
08:02
I thought, "What's my mother's face going to look like
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Razmišljao sam: "Kako će moja majka izgledati
08:04
on the day of my funeral?"
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na dan mog pogreba?"
08:06
I had to sit down with my daughter and say, "Here's the situation."
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Morao sam sjesti sa svojom kćeri
i reći: "Ovako stvari stoje."
Njezin je dečko bio s njom.
08:12
Her boyfriend was with her.
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08:13
I said, "I don't want you guys to get married prematurely,
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Rekao sam: "Ne želim da se prerano vjenčate
08:16
just so you can do it while Dad's still alive."
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samo zato da tata može biti na vjenčanju."
Ozbiljno je.
08:20
It's really serious.
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08:21
If you wonder why patients are motivated and want to help,
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Ako se pitate zašto su pacijenti motivirani
i žele pomoći, razmislite o ovome.
08:25
think about this.
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08:26
Well, my doctor prescribed a patient community, ACOR.org,
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Liječnik mi je preporučio zajednicu pacijenata,
Acor.org,
08:30
a network of cancer patients, of all amazing things.
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mrežu pacijenata s rakom, od svih divnih stvari.
Ubrzo su mi rekli:
08:34
Very quickly they told me,
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"Rak bubrega je rijetka bolest.
08:36
"Kidney cancer is an uncommon disease.
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Nađi si specijalistički centar.
08:38
Get yourself to a specialist center.
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Lijeka nema, no postoji nešto što ponekad pomogne --
08:40
There is no cure, but there's something that sometimes works --
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obično ne --
08:43
it usually doesn't --
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08:44
called high-dosage interleukin.
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visoka doza interleukina.
08:46
Most hospitals don't offer it,
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Većina ga bolnica ne nudi
08:48
so they won't even tell you it exists.
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pa vam čak neće ni reći da postoji.
08:50
Don't let them give you anything else first.
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Ne dopustite da vam daju nešto drugo prije.
08:52
And by the way, here are four doctors in your part of the United States
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Kad smo kod toga, ovo su četiri liječnika
u vašem dijelu SAD-a koji ga nude i njihovi brojevi."
08:56
who offer it, and their phone numbers."
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Zar to nije izvanredno?
08:58
How amazing is that?
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(Pljesak)
09:00
(Applause)
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Evo u čemu je stvar.
09:03
Here's the thing:
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09:04
Here we are, four years later --
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I sada, četiri godine kasnije
09:06
you can't find a website that gives patients that information.
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ne postoji stranica koja pacijentima nudi tu informaciju.
09:09
Government-approved, American Cancer Society,
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Vlada ga je odobrila kao i Američko društvo za karcinome,
09:12
but patients know what patients want to know.
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no pacijenti saznaju ono što žele.
To je moć mreža pacijenata.
09:16
It's the power of patient networks.
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09:18
This amazing substance -- again, I mentioned:
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Ova nevjerojatna materija --
ponavljam, gdje moje tijelo završava?
09:22
Where does my body end?
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09:23
My oncologist and I talk a lot these days
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Moj onkolog i ja mnogo smo razgovarali
09:25
because I try to keep my talks technically accurate.
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jer sam želio da moji govori budu precizni.
Rekao je: "Znate, imunološki sustav
09:28
And he said, "You know, the immune system is good at detecting invaders,
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je dobar u otkrivanju uljeza --
bakterija koje dolaze izvana --
09:33
bacteria coming from outside,
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09:35
but when it's your own tissue that you've grown,
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no kada nastaje vaše vlastito tkivo
to je potpuno druga stvar."
09:38
it's a whole different thing."
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09:39
And I went through a mental exercise, actually,
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Prošao sam mentalni trening
09:42
because I started a patient support community of my own on a website,
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jer sam osnovao zajednicu za potporu pacijentima
na internetu
09:47
and one of my friends -- one of my relatives, actually -- said,
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i jedan prijatelj, odnosno rođak
rekao je: "Dave, tko je proizveo tu stvar?
09:50
"Look, Dave, who grew this thing?
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Možeš li odlučiti
09:54
Are you going to set yourself up as mentally attacking yourself?"
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sam sebe mentalno napasti?"
Upustili smo se u to.
09:58
So we went into it.
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09:59
The story of how all that happened is in the book.
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Cijela se priča nalazi u ovoj knjizi.
10:02
Anyway, this is the way the numbers unfolded.
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Uglavnom, brojevi su se ovako razvijali.
Unio sam brojeve s bolničke web stranice,
10:05
Me being me, I put the numbers from my hospital's website,
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veličine svojih tumora, u tablicu.
10:08
for my tumor sizes,
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10:09
into a spreadsheet.
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Brojevi nisu važni.
10:10
Don't worry about the numbers.
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Ovo je imunološki sustav.
10:12
You see, that's the immune system.
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10:13
Amazing thing, those two yellow lines
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Nevjerojatna stvar, dvije žute linije
10:15
are where I got the two doses of interleukin two months apart.
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označavaju kada sam dobio doze interleukina
u razmaku od dva mjeseca.
Pogledajte kako su se tumori smanjili u međuvremenu.
10:20
And look at how the tumor sizes plummeted in between.
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Nevjerojatno.
10:23
Just incredible.
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10:24
Who knows what we'll be able to do when we learn to make more use of it?
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Tko zna što ćemo sve moći kad ga naučimo bolje koristiti.
Poanta je da sam godinu i pol kasnije
10:28
The punch line is that a year and a half later,
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10:30
I was there when this magnificent young woman, my daughter,
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bio prisutan kada se ova divna mlada dama, moja kći,
udala.
10:34
got married.
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10:35
And when she came down those steps,
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Kada se spustila niz stube
10:38
and it was just her and me for that moment,
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te smo ostali nasamo na trenutak
10:40
I was so glad that she didn't have to say to her mother,
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bio sam presretan što nije morala reći majci:
10:43
"I wish Dad could have been here."
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"Da je barem tata mogao biti ovdje."
10:45
And this is what we're doing when we make health care better.
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To je ono što želimo postići
unapređivanjem zdravstvene skrbi.
10:49
Now, I want to talk briefly about a couple of other patients
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Ukratko želim spomenuti nekoliko pacijenata
10:52
who are doing everything in their power to improve health care.
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koji daju sve od sebe da bi poboljšali zdravstvenu skrb.
10:55
This is Regina Holliday,
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Ovo je Regina Holliday,
10:57
a painter in Washington DC, whose husband died of kidney cancer
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slikarica u Washingtonu
čiji je muž preminuo od raka godinu dana nakon moje bolesti.
11:01
a year after my disease.
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Ovdje slika zidnu sliku
11:03
She's painting, here, a mural
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užasnih posljednjih tjedana u bolnici.
11:05
of his horrible final weeks in the hospital.
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Između ostalog je otkrila
11:08
One of the things that she discovered
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da je karton njezina muža
11:10
was that her husband's medical record in this paper folder
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u ovom fasciklu
bio dezorganiziran.
11:14
was just disorganized.
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Pomislila je: "Imamo naljepnice s nutritivnim tablicama
11:16
And she thought, "You know, if I have a nutrition facts label
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na kutiji žitarica.
11:19
on the side of a cereal box,
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Zašto ne postoji nešto tako jednostavno
11:21
why can't there be something that simple
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što će svakoj sestri,
11:23
telling every new nurse who comes on duty,
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svakom novom doktoru,
11:25
every new doctor,
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pružiti osnove o stanju mog muža?
11:27
the basics about my husband's condition?"
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Naslikala je medicinske podatke
11:29
So she painted this medical facts mural with a nutrition label,
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s nutritivnom tablicom
ili nečim sličnim
11:34
something like that,
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unutar crteža svog muža.
11:35
in a diagram of him.
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Prošle je godine naslikala ovu sliku.
11:37
She then, last year, painted this diagram.
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Proučavala je zdravstvo kao i ja.
11:40
She studied health care like me.
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11:41
She came to realize there were a lot of people
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Shvatila je da postoji mnogo ljudi
koji pišu knjige podrške pacijentima
11:44
who'd written patient-advocate books
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za koje nećete čuti na medicinskim konferencijama.
11:46
that you just don't hear about at medical conferences.
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Pacijenti su premalo korišten resurs.
11:49
Patients are such an underutilized resource.
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11:52
Well, as it said in my introduction,
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Kao što piše u mom uvodu,
11:54
I've gotten somewhat known for saying
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postao sam poznat jer tvrdim da treba omogućiti pristup podacima.
11:56
that patients should have access to their data.
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Rekao sam na konferenciji prije nekoliko godina:
11:58
I actually said at one conference a couple of years ago,
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"Dajte mi vražje podatke
12:01
"Give me my damn data,
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12:02
because you people can't be trusted to keep it clean."
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jer vam se ne može vjerovati da ćete ih čuvati."
12:05
And here, she has our "damned" data --
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Ovo su naši ograđeni podaci --
igra riječi --
12:08
it's a pun --
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12:09
which is starting to break out, starting to break through --
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koji počinju probijati branu --
voda simbolizira naše podatke.
12:12
the water symbolizes our data.
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12:14
And in fact,
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Želim vam ovdje izvesti jednu improvizaciju.
12:15
I want to do a little something improvisational for you.
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Znam jednog tipa na Twitteru,
12:18
There's a guy on Twitter that I know, a health IT guy outside Boston,
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IT stručnjaka blizu Bostona
koji je napisao rap o e-pacijentu
12:22
and he wrote the e-Patient rap.
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12:24
And it goes like this.
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koji ide ovako:
12:26
(Laughter)
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12:28
(Beatboxing)
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12:32
(Rapping) Gimme my damn data
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♫ Daj mi moje podatke ♫
12:34
I wanna be an e-Patient just like Dave
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♫ Želim biti e-pacijent kao Dave ♫
12:36
Gimme my damn data, 'cause it's my life to save
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♫ Daj mi podatke jer radi se o mom životu ♫
12:39
(Normal voice) Now, I'm not going to go any further --
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Neću ići dalje.
12:41
(Applause) (Cheering)
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(Pljesak)
Hvala vam. Ovo mi je skratilo vrijeme.
12:56
Well, thank you. That shot the timing.
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12:58
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
13:00
Think about the possibility.
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Razmislite o mogućnosti,
13:01
Why is it that iPhones and iPads advance far faster
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zašto iPhonei i iPadi
napreduju toliko brže
13:06
than the health tools that are available to you
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od dostupnih zdravstvenih pomagala
13:08
to help take care of your family?
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koji vam pomažu u skrbi za obitelj?
13:10
Here's a website, VisibleBody.com, that I stumbled across.
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Ovo je stranica, VisibleBody.com,
na koju sam naletio.
13:14
And I thought, "You know, I wonder what my psoas muscle is?"
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Pomislio sam: "Pitam se što je taj listoliki mišić?"
13:17
So you can click on things and remove it.
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Možete kliknuti na stvari i ukloniti ih.
13:19
And I saw, "Aha! That's the kidney and the psoas muscle."
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Vidio sam: "To je bubreg i listoliki mišić."
13:22
I was rotating it in 3D and saying, "I understand now."
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Okretao sam ga u 3D prikazu
govoreći: "Sada razumijem."
13:26
And then I realized it reminded me of Google Earth,
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Tad sam shvatio da me podsjeća na Google Earth
13:29
where you can fly to any address.
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s kojim možete otići na bilo koju adresu.
13:32
And I thought, "Why not take this and connect it to my digital scan data
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"Zašto ne bih uzeo ovo,
spojio to na moje podatke sa snimanja
13:37
and have Google Earth for my body?"
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i dobio Google Earth svog tijela?"
13:40
What did Google come out with this year?
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Što je Google pokrenuo ove godine?
Preglednik Google Body.
13:43
Now there's Google Body browser.
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13:45
But you see, it's still generic.
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No još uvijek je općenit.
13:47
It's not my data.
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To nisu moji podaci.
13:49
But if we can get that data out from behind the dam
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No ako možemo srušiti branu i izvući podatke
13:52
so software innovators can pounce on it
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pa da se softverski inovatori mogu baciti na njih
13:55
the way software innovators like to do,
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kao što oni vole raditi,
13:57
who knows what we'll be able to come up with.
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tko zna do čega ćemo sve doći.
Posljednja priča: ovo je Kelly Young,
14:00
One final story.
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14:01
This is Kelly Young, a rheumatoid arthritis patient from Florida.
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boluje od reumatoidnog artritisa
i živi na Floridi.
Ovo je aktualna priča
14:06
This is a live story, unfolding just in the last few weeks.
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koja se događa zadnjih nekoliko tjedana.
14:09
RA patients, as they call themselves -- her blog is "RA Warrior" --
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RA pacijenti, kako sami sebe zovu --
njezin blog je RA Ratnica --
imaju velik problem
14:15
have a big problem,
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14:16
because 40 percent of them have no visible symptoms.
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jer 40 posto njih nema vidljive simptome
zbog čega je iznimno teško pratiti kako bolest napreduje.
14:20
And that makes it really hard to tell how the disease is going,
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Neki liječnici misle: "Ma da, stvarno trpite bol."
14:23
and some doctors think, "Yeah right, you're really in pain."
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Istraživanjem na internetu otkrila je
14:26
Well, she found, through her online research,
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nuklearno snimanje kostiju
14:29
a nuclear bone scan that's usually used for cancer,
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koje se obično koristi kod raka,
14:32
but it can also reveal inflammation.
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no može otkriti i upalu.
Vidjela je
14:35
And she saw that if there is no inflammation,
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da ako nema upale
snimka je jednolično siva.
14:39
then the scan is a uniform gray.
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14:41
So she took it.
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Otišla je na snimanje.
14:42
And the radiologist's report said, "No cancer found."
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Izvješće radiologa otkrilo je da nema rak.
No ta informacija joj nije trebala.
14:47
Well, that's not what he was supposed to do with it.
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Tražila je da ga ponovno prouči
14:49
So she wanted to have it read again,
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te ju je liječnik otpustio.
14:52
and her doctor fired her.
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Pokrenula je CD.
14:54
She pulled up the CD.
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14:55
He said, "If you don't want to follow my instructions, go away."
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Rekao je: "Ako ne želite slijediti moje upute,
idite."
Pokrenula je CD sa snimkama skeniranja
15:00
So she pulled up the CD of the scan images,
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pogledajte ta upaljena područja.
15:03
and look at all those hot spots.
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Sada je aktivno angažirana na svom blogu
15:05
And she's now actively engaged on her blog
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i traži pomoć kako bi dobila bolju skrb.
15:08
in looking for assistance in getting better care.
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To je osnažen pacijent -- bez medicinske obuke.
15:11
See, that is an empowered patient -- no medical training.
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Mi smo, vi ste
15:14
We are, you are,
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najmanje korišten resurs u zdravstvu.
15:16
the most underused resource in health care.
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15:18
What she was able to do
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Mogla je to napraviti
15:20
was because she had access to the raw data.
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jer je imala pristup neobrađenim podacima.
Zamislite!
15:23
How big a deal was this?
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15:24
Well at TED2009,
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Na TED-u 2009.
15:26
Tim Berners-Lee himself, inventor of the Web,
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Tim Berners-Lee, izumitelj weba, rekao je
15:29
gave a talk where he said the next big thing
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da je sljedeći veliki korak
15:32
is not to have your browser find other people's articles about the data,
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ne da preglednik pretražuje
članke drugih ljudi o podacima,
već neobrađene podatke.
15:37
but the raw data.
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15:38
And he got them chanting by the end of the talk,
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Do kraja govora publika je skandirala:
"Neobrađeni podaci.
15:41
"Raw data now! Raw data now!"
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Neobrađeni podaci."
Ja vas molim
15:45
And I ask you,
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15:46
three words, please, to improve health care:
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za tri riječi da bismo poboljšali zdravstvo:
15:49
Let patients help!
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nek' pacijenti pomognu.
15:51
Let patients help!
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Nek' pacijenti pomognu.
15:53
Let patients help!
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Nek' pacijenti pomognu.
15:55
Let patients help!
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Nek' pacijenti pomognu.
15:57
Thank you.
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Hvala.
15:58
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
16:15
For all the patients around the world watching this on the Webcast,
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Svim pacijentima diljem svijeta
koji gledaju ovo putem interneta:
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God bless you, everyone. Let patients help.
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Bog vas blagoslovio -- nek' pacijenti pomognu.
Voditelj: Vas također. Hvala Vam.
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Host: And bless yourself. Thank you very much.
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