Dave deBronkart: Meet e-Patient Dave

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์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ฒˆ์—ญ: Jungsoo Kim ๊ฒ€ํ† : Su Jeong Han
์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๋ชจ์—ฌ ํ™˜์ž ์ƒ์Šน์˜ ์—ฐ๋„์— ๊ด€ํ•˜์—ฌ
00:16
It's an amazing thing
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that we're here to talk about the year of patients rising.
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์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋†€๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์˜ค๋Š˜ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ์ž๊ธฐ ์ผ€์ด์Šค๋ฅผ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ ํ†ต์ œํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜๋Š”
00:22
You heard stories earlier today
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ํ™˜์ž๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:24
about patients who are taking control of their cases,
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"ํ™•๋ฅ ์„ ์ด๋ฏธ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ๋” ๋งŽ์€
00:27
patients who are saying,
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00:28
"You know what, I know what the odds are,
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์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐˆ ๊ฑฐ์•ผ
00:30
but I'm going to look for more information.
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ ๋‚˜์˜ ์„ฑ๊ณต ๋ฐฉ์‹์„
00:32
I'm going to define what the terms of my success are."
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์ •์˜ํ• ๊ฑฐ์•ผ"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ํ™˜์ž๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ ๋ง์ด์ง€์š”.
์ œ๊ฐ€ 4๋…„ ์ „์—
00:36
I'm going to be sharing with you how, four years ago, I almost died --
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์ฃฝ์„ ๋ฒˆํ–ˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒฝํ—˜
์•„๋‹ˆ, ๋‚˜์ค‘์— ์•Œ๊ณ  ๋ณด๋‹ˆ
00:40
found out I was, in fact, already almost dead --
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์ฃฝ๊ธฐ์ง์ „ ์ƒํƒœ์˜€๋˜ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์„ ๊ณต์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:42
and what I then found out
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๋˜ํ•œ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋œ e-ํ™˜์ž ์šด๋™์— ๊ด€ํ•ด์„œ๋„
00:45
about what's called the e-Patient movement.
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๋‚˜์ค‘์— ์„ค๋ช…ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:47
I'll explain what that term means.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋˜๊ธฐ ์ „ ๊นŒ์ง€๋Š”
00:49
I had been blogging under the name "Patient Dave,"
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00:51
and when I discovered this,
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Patient Dave๋ผ๋Š” ํ•„๋ช…์œผ๋กœ ๋ธ”๋กœ๊น…์„ ํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ
00:53
I just renamed myself e-Patient Dave.
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e-Patient Dave๋กœ ๋ณ€๊ฒฝํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:55
Regarding the word "patient":
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"ํ™˜์ž"๋ผ๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด์— ๊ด€ํ•ด์„œ,
00:57
When I first started a few years ago getting involved in health care
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๋ช‡ ๋…„ ์ „ ์˜๋ฃŒ ์„œ๋น„์Šค์— ์ฒ˜์Œ ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด
ํ‰๋ฒ”ํ•œ ์ผ๋ฐ˜ ๊ด€์ฐฐ์ž๋กœ์„œ
01:01
and attending meetings as just a casual observer,
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ํšŒ์˜๋“ค์„ ์ฐธ๊ฐ€ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ
์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ํ™˜์ž์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งํ•  ๋•Œ
01:04
I noticed that people would talk about patients
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ํ™˜์ž๊ฐ€ ๋ฐฉ์— ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ,
01:06
as if it was somebody who's not in the room here --
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01:08
somebody out there.
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๋งˆ์น˜ ๋ฐฉ ๋ฐ–์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ทจ๊ธ‰ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ์•„์ฑ˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:10
Some of our talks today, we still act like that.
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์˜ค๋Š˜๋‚ ์—๋„ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:12
But I'm here to tell you:
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €๋Š” "ํ™˜์ž"๊ฐ€ 3์ธ์นญ ๋‹จ์–ด๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„
01:14
"patient" is not a third-person word.
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์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ๋‚˜์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:18
All right?
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ฐพ๊ฒŒ ๋ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:19
You yourself will find yourself in a hospital bed --
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๋ณ‘์ƒ์— ๋ˆ„์›Œ์žˆ๋Š” ๋‹น์‹  ๋ณธ์ธ
01:22
or your mother, your child --
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๋˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์–ด๋จธ๋‹ˆ๋‚˜ ์ž๋…€,
01:24
there are heads nodding, people who say,
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"๋ฌด์Šจ ๋ง์„ ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ์ •ํ™•ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์•Œ์•„์š”"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋ฉฐ ๊ณ ๊ฐœ๋ฅผ ๋„๋•์ด๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋ง์ด์ฃ 
01:26
"Yes, I know exactly what you mean."
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01:27
So when you hear what I'm going to talk about here today,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์ œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋“ฃ๊ธฐ ์ „์—,
ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๋ง์ด ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ,
01:31
first of all, I want to say that I am here
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์ €๋Š” ์ง€๊ธˆ๊นŒ์ง€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งŒ๋‚ฌ๋˜
01:34
on behalf of all the patients that I have ever met,
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๋ชจ๋“  ํ™˜์ž๋ถ„๋“ค๊ณผ ๋งŒ๋‚œ์ ์ด ์—†๋Š” ํ™˜์ž๋“ค
01:36
all the ones I haven't met.
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๋ชจ๋‘๋ฅผ ๋Œ€ํ‘œํ•ด์„œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:38
This is about letting patients play a more active role
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ํ™˜์ž๋“ค ์Šค์Šค๋กœ ์˜๋ฃŒ ์„œ๋น„์Šค์—์„œ ๋” ๋Šฅ๋™์ ์ธ ์—ญํ• ์„ ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋ฉฐ
์˜๋ฃŒ ์„œ๋น„์Šค๋ฅผ ๊ณ ์น  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ง€์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:42
in helping health care, in fixing health care.
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์ œ ๋ณ‘์›์— ์žˆ๋Š” ํ•œ ์ˆ˜์„ ์˜์‚ฌ์ธ
01:45
One of the senior doctors at my hospital,
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Charlie Safran๊ณผ ๊ทธ์˜ ๋™๋ฃŒ Warner Slack๋Š”
01:47
Charlie Safran, and his colleague, Warner Slack,
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01:49
have been saying for decades
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๋ช‡ ์‹ญ ๋…„ ์ „๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๊ณ„์† ์˜๋ฃŒ ์„œ๋น„์Šค์—์„œ
01:51
that the most underutilized resource in all of health care
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๊ฐ€์žฅ ํ™œ์šฉ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์€ ์ •๋ณด์˜ ๊ทผ์›์€
ํ™˜์ž๋ผ๊ณ  ์ฃผ์žฅํ•ด์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:55
is the patient.
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01:56
They have been saying that since the 1970s.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ 1970๋…„๋Œ€๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๊ณ„์† ์ฃผ์žฅํ•ด์™”์ฃ .
01:59
Now, I'm going to step back in history.
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์ด์ œ ์ €๋Š” ์—ญ์‚ฌ ์†์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:01
This is from July, 1969.
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1969๋…„ 7์›”
02:03
I was a freshman in college,
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋Œ€ํ•™๊ต 1ํ•™๋…„์ด์—ˆ์„ ๋•Œ
02:05
and this was when we first landed on the Moon.
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์ด๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋‹ฌ์— ์ฒ˜์Œ์œผ๋กœ ์ฐฉ๋ฅ™ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๋Š” ์ง€๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ‘œ๋ฉด์—์„œ
02:08
And it was the first time
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02:09
we had ever seen from another surface --
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์ฒ˜์Œ ๊ด€์ฐฐํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค--
์ €๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ณผ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ง€๊ธˆ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณณ,
02:12
that's the place where you and I are right now,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ณณ์ด์ง€์š”.
02:14
where we live.
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02:15
The world was changing.
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์„ธ์ƒ์€ ๋ฐ”๋€Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:17
It was about to change in ways that nobody could foresee.
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์„ธ์ƒ์€ ์–ด๋Š ๋ˆ„๊ณ ๋„ ์˜ˆ์ธกํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ๋ฐฉํ–ฅ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ”๋€Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์ง€์š”.
02:20
A few weeks later, Woodstock happened.
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๋ช‡ ์ฃผ ๋’ค์—
Woodstock(๋‰ด์š•์˜ ์ „์›๋„์‹œ์—์„œ ๊ฐœ์ตœ๋œ rock ํŽ˜์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ฒŒ)์ด ์—ด๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:24
Three days of fun and music.
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3์ผ ๋™์•ˆ์˜ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์™€ ์Œ์•…์ด์—ˆ์ฃ .
02:26
Here, just for historical authenticity,
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์—ญ์‚ฌ์  ์ฆ๊ฑฐ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ,
02:28
is a picture of me in that year.
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๊ทธ ํ•ด ์ €์˜ ์‚ฌ์ง„ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:30
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
02:33
Yeah, the wavy hair, the blue eyes --
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์š”, ์›จ์ด๋ธŒ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋จธ๋ฆฌ์™€ ํŒŒ๋ž€ ๋ˆˆ๋™์ž--
02:35
it was really something.
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์ •๋ง ๋Œ€๋‹จํ–ˆ์ฃ .
02:37
That fall of 1969,
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๊ทธ ํ•ด 1969๋…„ ๊ฐ€์„,
02:39
the Whole Earth Catalog came out.
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Whole Earth Catalog๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:41
It was a hippie journal of self-sufficiency.
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์ž๊ธ‰์ž์กฑ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ํžˆํ”ผ ์ €๋„์ด์—ˆ์ฃ .
์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํžˆํ”ผ๋ฅผ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์พŒ๋ฝ์ฃผ์˜์ž๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
02:45
We think of hippies of being just hedonists,
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๊ทธ๊ณณ์—๋Š” ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ•ํ•œ ์š”์†Œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค -- ์ €๋„ ๊ทธ ์šบ์ง์ž„์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€์˜€์ง€์š”--
02:48
but there's a very strong component -- I was in that movement --
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๊ทธ ๊ฐ•ํ•œ ์š”์†Œ๋Š” ๋ฐ”๋กœ
02:51
a very strong component of being responsible for yourself.
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์ž๊ธฐ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ๋ฅผ ์ฑ…์ž„์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:54
This book's title's subtitle is "Access to Tools."
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์ด ์ฑ… ์ œ๋ชฉ์˜ ๋ถ€์žฌ๋Š”
"๋„๊ตฌ๋กœ์˜ ์ ‘๊ทผ" ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:58
It talked about how to build your own house,
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์ด ์ฑ…์€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ ์ง‘์„ ๊ฑด์ถ•ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
03:00
how to grow your own food, all kinds of things.
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์Œ์‹์„ ์žฌ๋ฐฐํ•˜๋Š” ๋“ฑ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
1980๋…„๋Œ€,
03:03
In the 1980s,
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03:04
this young doctor, Tom Ferguson,
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์ด ์˜์‚ฌ(Tom Ferguson)๋Š”
03:06
was the medical editor of the Whole Earth Catalog.
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Whole Earth Catalog์˜ ์˜ํ•™ ๋ถ€๋ถ„ ํŽธ์ง‘์ž์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:09
He saw that the great majority of what we do in medicine and health care
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์˜๋ฃŒ์™€ ๊ฑด๊ฐ• ๊ด€๋ฆฌ์—์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋Š”
๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ ๋ฐ”๋กœ
์ž์‹ ์„ ๋Œ๋ณด๋Š” ์ผ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ณด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:14
is taking care of ourselves.
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์‚ฌ์‹ค, ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ, 70~80%๊ฐ€
03:16
In fact, he said it was 70 to 80 percent
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03:18
of how we actually take care of our bodies.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์‹ ์ฒด๋ฅผ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜€์ง€์š”.
03:20
Well, he also saw that when health care turns to medical care
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๋˜ํ•œ ๊ทธ๋Š”
์‹ฌ๊ฐํ•œ ๋ณ‘ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ฑด๊ฐ• ๊ด€๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์˜๋ฃŒ๋กœ ์ „ํ™˜๋  ๋•Œ
03:25
because of a more serious disease,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋’ค์ณ์ง€๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
03:27
the key thing that holds us back is access to information.
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๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ •๋ณด ์ ‘๊ทผ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ณด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:30
And when the Web came along, that changed everything,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  Web์ด ์„ธ์ƒ์— ๋‚˜์™”์„ ๋•Œ, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐ”๊ฟง์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค,
์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๋ฟ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ,
03:34
because not only could we find information,
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03:36
we could find other people like ourselves
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์™€ ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:39
who could gather, who could bring us information.
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๊ฐ™์ด ๋ชจ์ด๊ณ , ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ๊ณต์œ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ e-ํ™˜์ž๋ผ๋Š” ์šฉ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด๋ƒˆ์ง€์š” --
03:42
And he coined this term "e-Patients" --
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03:44
equipped, engaged, empowered, enabled.
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equipped : (ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ์ง€์‹๋“ฑ์ด) ๊ฐ–์ถฐ์ง„, engaged : (์ดํ•ด์‹ฌ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ ) ๊ด€๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ๋งบ์–ด์ง„, ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•˜๋Š”, empowered : ์ž์œจ๊ถŒ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง„, enabled: ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋Š”,
03:47
Obviously, at this stage of life
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๋‹น์—ฐํžˆ ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ธ์ƒ ๋‹จ๊ณ„์—์„œ
03:48
he was in a somewhat more dignified form than he was back then.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ๋ณด๋‹ค ์–ด๋Š ์ •๋„ ์œ„์—„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:52
Now, I was an engaged patient long before I ever heard of the term.
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์ €๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ด ์šฉ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋“ฃ๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•œ์ฐธ ์ „ ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ
์ฐธ์—ฌํ•˜๋Š” ํ™˜์ž์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:56
In 2006, I went to my doctor for a regular physical,
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2006๋…„, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ •๊ธฐ ๊ฑด๊ฐ• ๊ฒ€์ง„์„ ํ•˜๋Ÿฌ ์˜์‚ฌ์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ”์„ ๋•Œ
03:59
and I had said, "I have a sore shoulder."
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"์–ด๊นจ๊ฐ€ ์•„ํŒŒ์š”"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
X-ray๋ฅผ ์ดฌ์˜ํ•˜๊ณ 
04:02
Well, I got an X-ray,
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04:03
and the next morning --
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ๋‹ค์Œ๋‚  ์•„์นจ--
04:05
you may have noticed, those of you who have been through a medical crisis
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๋ˆˆ์น˜์ฑ„์‹  ๋ถ„๋“ค๋„ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์— ์‹ฌ๊ฐํ•œ ์œ„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ•œ ๋ถ„๋“ค์€
์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:08
will understand this.
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์˜ค๋Š˜ ์•„์นจ, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋ช…์˜ ๋ฐœํ‘œ์ž๋“ค์ด
04:10
This morning, some of the speakers named the date when they found out
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์ง„๋‹จ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์€ ๋‚ ์งœ๋ฅผ ๋งํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ์š”.
04:14
about their condition.
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04:15
For me, it was 9am
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์ €์—๊ฒŒ๋Š”, 2007๋…„ 1์›” 3์ผ
04:18
on January 3, 2007.
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9์‹œ ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์ €๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์— ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ , ์ œ ์ฑ…์ƒ์€ ๊นจ๋—ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:21
I was at the office; my desk was clean.
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๋ฒฝ์—๋Š” ํŒŒ๋ž€์ƒ‰ ์นดํŽซ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์ง€์š”.
04:23
I had the blue partition carpet on the walls.
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์ „ํ™”๊ฐ€ ์šธ๋ ธ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ €์˜ ์˜์‚ฌ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:27
The phone rang and it was my doctor.
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๊ทธ๋Š” "Dave, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ง‘ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ์—์„œ
04:30
He said, "Dave, I pulled up the X-ray image
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X-ray ์ด๋ฏธ์ง€๋ฅผ ์—ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์ฃ .
04:33
on the screen on the computer at home."
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๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ, "๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์–ด๊นจ๋Š” ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์ง€๋งŒ,
04:35
He said, "Your shoulder is going to be fine,
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Dave, ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ํ์— ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."
04:37
but Dave, there's something in your lung."
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๋นจ๊ฐ„์ƒ‰ ํƒ€์›์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ฆผ์ž๋Š”
04:39
And if you look in that red oval,
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์žˆ์–ด์„œ๋Š” ์•ˆ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:41
that shadow was not supposed to be there.
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๊ธด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์งง๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์ž๋ฉด,
04:45
To make a long story short,
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์ œ๊ฐ€, "๋ณ‘์›์œผ๋กœ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๊ฐ€์•ผ ํ•˜๋‚˜์š”?"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋‹ˆ๊นŒ
04:47
I said, "So you need me to get back in there?"
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์˜์‚ฌ๋Š”, "๋„ค, ํ‰๋ถ€ CT ์Šค์บ”์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:49
He said, "Yeah, we're going to need to do a CT scan of your chest."
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” "์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ๋”๋‹ˆ
04:52
In parting, I said, "Is there anything I should do?"
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๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ-- ํ•œ๋ฒˆ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
04:55
He said -- think about this one,
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์ด๊ฒŒ ์ œ ์˜์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ์ค€ ์ถฉ๊ณ  ์‚ฌํ•ญ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:57
this is the advice your doctor gives you:
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"๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์ง‘์— ๊ฐ€์…”์„œ ์•„๋‚ด์™€ ์™€์ธํ•œ์ž” ํ•˜์„ธ์š”."
04:59
"Just go home and have a glass of wine with your wife."
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์ €๋Š” CT ์Šค์บ”์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜๊ณ ,
05:04
I went in for the CAT scan.
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05:07
It turns out there were five of these things in both my lungs.
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์ œ ์–‘์ชฝ ํ์— ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ์ด 5๊ฐœ๋‚˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:10
So at that point we knew that it was cancer.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ ๋•Œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด๊ฒŒ ์•”์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:12
We knew it wasn't lung cancer.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ์•”์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์•Œ์•˜์ฃ .
05:14
That meant it was metastasized from somewhere.
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๊ฒฐ๊ตญ, ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ณณ์—์„œ ์ „์ด๋˜์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
๋ฌธ์ œ๋Š” ๊ณผ์—ฐ ์–ด๋””์—์„œ ์ „์ด๋˜์—ˆ๋‚˜? ์ด์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:18
The question was, where from?
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05:20
So I went in for an ultrasound.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ดˆ์ŒํŒŒ ๊ฒ€์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์ €๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์—ฌ์„ฑ๋ถ„์ด ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ
05:23
I got to do what many women have --
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05:25
the jelly on the belly and the, "Bzzzz!"
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๋ฐฐ์— ์ ค์„ ๋ฐ”๋ฅด๊ณ , ์œ™์œ™...
์ œ ์•„๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ €์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:29
My wife came with me.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ˆ˜์˜์‚ฌ์ด๋ฉฐ,
05:31
She's a veterinarian,
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05:32
so she's seen lots of ultrasounds.
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๋งŽ์€ ์ดˆ์ŒํŒŒ ๊ฒ€์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์•„์™”์ฃ .
05:34
I mean, she knows I'm not a dog.
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์•„๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐœ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์••๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:36
(Laughter)
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05:37
This is an MRI image.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ณธ ๊ฒƒ์€ -- ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ MRI ์ด๋ฏธ์ง€ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:40
This is much sharper than an ultrasound would be.
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MRI๋Š” ์ดˆ์ŒํŒŒ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ์„ ๋ช…ํ•˜์ง€์š”.
์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์‹ ์žฅ์—์„œ ๋ณธ ๊ฒƒ์€
05:43
What we saw in that kidney
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์ด ํฐ ๋ฐฉ์šธ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:46
was that big blob there.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‚ฌ์‹ค ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ์ด 2๊ฐœ๋‚˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์ฃ .
05:47
There were actually two of these: one was growing out the front
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ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ์•ž์ชฝ์—์„œ ์ž๋ผ๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ์ด๋ฏธ ํ„ฐ์ ธ์„œ
05:50
and had already erupted and latched onto the bowel.
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์žฅ์— ๋‹ฌ๋ผ๋ถ™์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ๋’ค์—์„œ ์ž๋ผ๋ฉฐ, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ•œ๋ฒˆ๋„ ๋“ค์–ด๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์—†์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ
05:53
One was growing out the back and it attached to the psoas muscle,
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๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ์‹ ๊ฒฝ์„ ์“ฐ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ๋˜
05:56
which is a big muscle in the back that I'd never heard of,
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๊ฐ€์ž๋ฏธ๊ทผ(soleus muscle)์— ๋ถ™์–ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:59
but all of a sudden I cared about it.
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06:01
(Laughter)
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์ €๋Š” ์ง‘์— ๊ฐ”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:02
I went home.
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06:03
Now, I've been Googling --
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์ด์ œ ๊ตฌ๊ธ€์—์„œ ๊ฒ€์ƒ‰์„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. -- ์ €๋Š” 1989๋…„ CompuServe ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ์— ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:04
I've been online since 1989, on CompuServe.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ํ™”๋ฉด์˜ ์ž์„ธํ•œ ์‚ฌํ•ญ์„ ์ฝ์ง€ ๋ชปํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ์ง€๋งŒ
06:07
I went home, and I know you can't read the details here;
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:09
that's not important.
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06:10
My point is, I went to a respected medical website, WebMD,
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ•์กฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€, ์ €๋Š” ๋†’์ด ํ‰๊ฐ€๋˜๋Š” ์˜ํ•™ ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ,
WebMD์— ๊ฐ”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์“ฐ๋ ˆ๊ธฐ ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ๋ฅผ ์ค„ ์•Œ์•„์„œ์˜€์ฃ .
06:15
because I know how to filter out junk.
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06:17
I also found my wife online.
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์ฐธ๊ณ ๋กœ ์ œ ์•„๋‚ด๋„ ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์—์„œ ์ฐพ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:19
Before I met her,
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‚ด๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๊ธฐ ์ „์—๋Š”
06:21
I went through some suboptimal search results.
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์ฐจ์„ ์˜ ๊ฒ€์ƒ‰ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
(์›ƒ์Œ)
06:24
(Laughter)
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06:25
So I looked for quality information.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์ข‹์€ ์งˆ์˜ ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:28
There's so much about trust --
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์‹ ์šฉ์€ ์ •๋ง ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค--
06:30
what sources of information can we trust?
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์–ด๋–ค ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ฏฟ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?
์–ด๋””์—์„œ ๋‚ด ์‹ ์ฒด๊ฐ€ ๋๋‚˜๊ณ 
06:33
Where does my body end and an invader start?
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์นจ์ž…์ž๊ฐ€ ์‹œ์ž‘๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ผ๊นŒ?
06:37
A cancer, a tumor, is something you grow out of your own tissue.
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์•”, ์ข…์–‘์€ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์กฐ์ง์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์ž๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚ ๊นŒ์š”?
06:41
How does that happen?
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06:42
Where does medical ability end and start?
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์˜ํ•™์€ ์–ด๋””์—์„œ
๋๋‚˜๋ฉฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋‚˜?
06:46
Well, so what I read on WebMD:
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ, Web:MD์—์„œ ์ฝ์€ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋Š”:
์ง„ํ–‰์ค‘์ธ ์‹ ์žฅ์•” ํ™˜์ž์˜
06:49
"The prognosis is poor for progressing renal cell cancer.
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์˜ˆํ›„๋Š” ๋ถ€์ •์ ์ž„.
๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ํ™˜์ž๋Š” ์น˜๋ฃŒ๊ฐ€ ๋ถˆ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•จ."
06:54
Almost all patients are incurable."
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์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์— ์ ‘์†ํ•œ ์ง€ ๊ฝค ๋˜์–ด์„œ
06:57
I've been online long enough to know if I don't like the first results I get,
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๋งŒ์•ฝ ์ฒ˜์Œ ๊ฒ€์ƒ‰ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ๋งˆ์Œ์— ์•Š๋“ค๋ฉด,
๋” ์ฐพ์•„๋ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:01
I go look for more.
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07:02
And what I found on other websites was,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ์—์„œ ์ฐพ์€ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋Š”,
07:05
even by the third page of Google results:
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์‹ฌ์ง€์— ๊ตฌ๊ธ€ ๊ฒ€์ƒ‰ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ์˜ 3๋ฒˆ์งธ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์—์„œ๋„,
07:07
"Outlook is bleak."
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"์ „๋ง์€ ์ ˆ๋ง์ ์ž„",
07:09
"Prognosis is grim."
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"์˜ˆํ›„๊ฐ€ ์•”์šธํ•จ" ์ด์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋ณด๋‹ˆ, "์ด๊ฒŒ ๋„๋Œ€์ฒด ๋ญ์•ผ?"
07:12
And I'm thinking, "What the heck?"
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์ €๋Š” ์ „ํ˜€ ์•„ํ”„์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:14
I didn't feel sick at all.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ €๋…์— ์กฐ๊ธˆ ํ”ผ๊ณคํ•ด์ง€๊ธฐ๋Š” ํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ,
07:16
I mean, I'd been getting tired in the evening,
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์ €๋Š” 56์‚ด์ด๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
07:18
but I was 56 years old, you know?
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๋ชธ๋ฌด๊ฒŒ๊ฐ€ ์ฒœ์ฒœํžˆ ์ค„์–ด๋“ค๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ,
07:20
I was slowly losing weight,
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์‚ฌ์‹ค, ์˜์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋ผ๊ณ  ์ €ํ•œํ…Œ ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:22
but for me, that was what the doctor told me to do.
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์ •๋ง ์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ ์ผ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:26
It was really something.
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07:27
And this is the diagram of stage 4 kidney cancer
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์ด ๊ทธ๋ฆผ์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์ค‘์— ์–ป์€ ์•ฝ์— ์žˆ๋Š”
์‹ ์žฅ์•” 4๊ธฐ์˜ ๊ทธ๋ฆผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:31
from the drug I eventually got.
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07:32
Totally by coincidence, there's that thing in my lung.
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์™„์ „ํ•œ ์šฐ์—ฐ์œผ๋กœ, ์ œ ํ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ฐพ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์ข…์–‘์€ ์™ผ์ชฝ ๋Œ€ํ‡ด๊ณจ(femur)์—, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ•˜๋‚˜ ๋” ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:36
In the left femur, the left thigh bone, there's another one.
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์ œ ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ๋ถ€๋Ÿฌ์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:39
I had one. My leg eventually snapped.
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์ €๋Š” ์“ฐ๋Ÿฌ์กŒ๊ณ , ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ๋ถ€๋Ÿฌ์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:41
I fainted and landed on it, and it broke.
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๋‘๊ฐœ๊ณจ(skull)์—๋„ ํ•˜๋‚˜ ๋” ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ ,
07:44
There's one in the skull,
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07:45
and then for good measure, I had these other tumors,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ถ”๊ฐ€๋กœ, ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ข…์–‘๋“ค์ด ๋” ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์น˜๋ฃŒ๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ๋Š”
07:48
including, by the time my treatment started,
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ํ˜€์—์„œ๋„ ํ•˜๋‚˜ ์ž๋ผ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:50
one was growing out of my tongue.
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07:51
I had kidney cancer growing out of my tongue.
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์‹ ์žฅ์•”์ด ํ˜€์—์„œ ์ž๋ผ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์ง€์š”.
07:53
And what I read
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ฝ์€ ํ‰๊ท  ์ƒ์กด๊ธฐ๊ฐ„์€
07:55
was that my median survival was 24 weeks.
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24์ฃผ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์ •๋ง ์•ˆ ์ข‹์•˜์ฃ .
07:58
This was bad.
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07:59
I was facing the grave.
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์ €๋Š” ๋ฌด๋ค์„ ์ง๋ฉดํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:02
I thought, "What's my mother's face going to look like
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์ €๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์ง€์š”, "๋‚ด ์žฅ๋ก€์‹ ๋‚ , ๋‚ด ์–ด๋จธ๋‹ˆ์˜
08:04
on the day of my funeral?"
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์–ผ๊ตด์€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ณด์ผ๊นŒ?"
08:06
I had to sit down with my daughter and say, "Here's the situation."
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์ €๋Š” ์ œ ๋”ธ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์ด ์•‰์•„
๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. "์ง€๊ธˆ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ์ด๋ ‡๋‹จ๋‹ค."
๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ๋‚จ์ž์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ™์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์ง€์š”.
08:12
Her boyfriend was with her.
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08:13
I said, "I don't want you guys to get married prematurely,
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. "์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ฐ€ ์‚ด์•„ ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ
08:16
just so you can do it while Dad's still alive."
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๊ฒฐํ˜ผ์„ ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ์•ž๋‹น๊ธฐ์ง€ ์•Š์•„๋„ ๋ผ."
์ •๋ง ์‹ฌ๊ฐํ–ˆ์ง€์š”.
08:20
It's really serious.
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08:21
If you wonder why patients are motivated and want to help,
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๋งŒ์•ฝ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์™œ ํ™˜์ž๋“ค์ด ๋™๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋ถ€์—ฌ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ๊ณ , ์ •๋ง ๋„์›€์„ ์ฃผ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€์ง€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๋ฉด
์ด๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด ๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
08:25
think about this.
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08:26
Well, my doctor prescribed a patient community, ACOR.org,
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์ œ ์˜์‚ฌ๋Š” ํ™˜์ž ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ์ธ
Acor.org๋ฅผ ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ์ฒ˜๋ฐฉํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:30
a network of cancer patients, of all amazing things.
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์•”ํ™˜์ž๋“ค์˜ ๋„คํŠธ์›Œํฌ๋กœ, ์ •๋ง ๋Œ€๋‹จํ•œ ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์ •๋ง ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:34
Very quickly they told me,
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"์‹ ์žฅ์•”์€ ํฌ๊ท€ํ•œ ์งˆ๋ณ‘์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:36
"Kidney cancer is an uncommon disease.
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์ „๋ฌธ์˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ณ‘์›์— ๊ฐ€๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
08:38
Get yourself to a specialist center.
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์น˜๋ฃŒ๋ฒ•์€ ์—†์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ฐ€๋” ๋˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด ์žˆ๊ธฐ๋Š” ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค๋งŒ--
08:40
There is no cure, but there's something that sometimes works --
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๋ณดํ†ต์€ ์‹คํŒจํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:43
it usually doesn't --
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08:44
called high-dosage interleukin.
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์ธํ„ฐ๋ฅ˜ํ‚จ(interleukin) ๋Œ€๋Ÿ‰ํˆฌ์—ฌ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:46
Most hospitals don't offer it,
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๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ๋ณ‘์›์€ ์ด ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•„์„œ,
08:48
so they won't even tell you it exists.
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์ด ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์˜ ์กด์žฌ ์กฐ์ฐจ๋„ ์˜ˆ๊ธฐํ•ด์ฃผ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:50
Don't let them give you anything else first.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ณ‘์›์—์„œ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์น˜๋ฃŒ๋ฅผ ๋จผ์ € ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
08:52
And by the way, here are four doctors in your part of the United States
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์ฐธ๊ณ ๋กœ, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ฑฐ์ฃผํ•˜๋Š” ๋ถ€๋ถ„์— ์žˆ๋Š”
์ด ์น˜๋ฃŒ๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๋Š” 4 ๋ช…์˜ ์˜์‚ฌ๋“ค๊ณผ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์ „ํ™”๋ฒˆํ˜ธ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:56
who offer it, and their phone numbers."
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์ •๋ง ๋†€๋ž์ง€์š”?
08:58
How amazing is that?
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(๋ฐ•์ˆ˜)
09:00
(Applause)
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ ํ•œ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ฃผ๋ชฉํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ์ ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:03
Here's the thing:
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09:04
Here we are, four years later --
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์ง€๊ธˆ 4๋…„์ด ์ง€๋‚ฌ์ง€๋งŒ,
09:06
you can't find a website that gives patients that information.
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ํ™˜์ž๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ์ฃผ๋Š” ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:09
Government-approved, American Cancer Society,
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์ •๋ถ€ ์Šน์ธ, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์•” ํ•™ํšŒ(ACS)๋„ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ
09:12
but patients know what patients want to know.
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ํ™˜์ž๋“ค์€ ํ™˜์ž๋“ค์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ์›ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ์ž˜ ์••๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ํ™˜์ž ๋„คํŠธ์›Œํฌ์˜ ํž˜์ด์ง€์š”.
09:16
It's the power of patient networks.
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09:18
This amazing substance -- again, I mentioned:
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์ด ๋†€๋ผ์šด ๋ฌผ์งˆ(์ข…์–‘)--
์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด, ์–ด๋””์„œ ๋‚ด ์‹ ์ฒด๊ฐ€ ๋๋‚˜๋Š”๊ฐ€์š”?
09:22
Where does my body end?
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09:23
My oncologist and I talk a lot these days
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์ข…์–‘ํ•™์ž์™€ ์ €๋Š” ์ตœ๊ทผ์— ๋งŽ์€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ•๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:25
because I try to keep my talks technically accurate.
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด, ์ œ ๊ฐ•์˜์˜ ์ „๋ฌธ์„ฑ์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ์ฃ .
๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ, "๋ฉด์—ญ ๊ณ„๋Š” ์นจ์ž…์ž๋ฅผ
09:28
And he said, "You know, the immune system is good at detecting invaders,
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์ฐพ์•„๋‚ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ •๋ง ์ž˜ ํ•ด๋ƒ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค--
๋ฐ–์—์„œ ๋“ค์–ด์˜จ ๋ฐ•ํ…Œ๋ฆฌ์•„ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด์š”--
09:33
bacteria coming from outside,
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09:35
but when it's your own tissue that you've grown,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์ž๊ธฐ ๋ชธ์—์„œ ํ‚ค์›Œ๋‚ธ ์กฐ์ง์ด๋ผ๋ฉด
์ƒํ™ฉ์€ ๊ธ‰๋ณ€ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."
09:38
it's a whole different thing."
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09:39
And I went through a mental exercise, actually,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ๊นŠ๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐ ๋ณด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:42
because I started a patient support community of my own on a website,
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ™˜์ž ์ง€์› ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ๋ฅผ
์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ์— ๊ฐœ์„คํ–ˆ๊ณ ,
09:47
and one of my friends -- one of my relatives, actually -- said,
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์ œ ์นœ๊ตฌ, ์•„๋‹ˆ ์ œ ์นœ์ฒ™ ์ค‘ ํ•œ ๋ช…์ด ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ
"Dave, ๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ์ข…์–‘์„ ํ‚ค์šฐ๋‚˜์š”?
09:50
"Look, Dave, who grew this thing?
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์ž๊ธฐ ๋ชธ์„ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ ๊ณต๊ฒฉํ•˜๋ผ๊ณ 
09:54
Are you going to set yourself up as mentally attacking yourself?"
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๋ช…๋ นํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?"
๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ง„ํ–‰ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:58
So we went into it.
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09:59
The story of how all that happened is in the book.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์น˜๋ฃŒ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€๋Š” ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ด ์ฑ…์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:02
Anyway, this is the way the numbers unfolded.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ, ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์ œ ์„ฑ๊ฒฉ์ƒ, ์ €๋Š” ์ œ ๋ณ‘์› ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ์— ์žˆ๋Š”
10:05
Me being me, I put the numbers from my hospital's website,
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์ œ ์ข…์–‘์˜ ํฌ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์Šคํ”„๋ ˆ๋“œ์‹œํŠธ์— ์ž…๋ ฅํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:08
for my tumor sizes,
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10:09
into a spreadsheet.
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์ˆ˜์น˜๋Š” ์‹ ๊ฒฝ ์“ฐ์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
10:10
Don't worry about the numbers.
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์ €๊ธฐ ๋ณด์ด๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ๋ฉด์—ญ ๊ณ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:12
You see, that's the immune system.
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10:13
Amazing thing, those two yellow lines
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์ •๋ง ๋†€๋ผ์šด ๊ฒƒ์ด, ์ € ๋…ธ๋ž€ ์ค„ 2๊ฐœ๊ฐ€
10:15
are where I got the two doses of interleukin two months apart.
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2๋ฒˆ์˜ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ฅ˜ํ‚จ ํˆฌ์—ฌ๋ฅผ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋ƒ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
2๋‹ฌ ์ฐจ์ด๋ฅผ ๋‘๊ณ  ํˆฌ์—ฌํ–ˆ์ง€์š”.
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ข…์–‘์˜ ํฌ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ์ด์— ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์ค„์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ํ•œ๋ฒˆ ๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
10:20
And look at how the tumor sizes plummeted in between.
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์ •๋ง ๋ฏฟ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:23
Just incredible.
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10:24
Who knows what we'll be able to do when we learn to make more use of it?
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ์ž˜ ํ™œ์šฉํ•˜๋ฉด ์–ด๋–ค ํšจ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์˜ฌ์ง€ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€, 1๋…„ ๋ฐ˜ ๋’ค
10:28
The punch line is that a year and a half later,
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10:30
I was there when this magnificent young woman, my daughter,
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์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ์ œ ๋”ธ์ด ๊ฒฐํ˜ผํ•  ๋•Œ
๊ฐ™์ด ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:34
got married.
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10:35
And when she came down those steps,
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๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ๊ณ„๋‹จ์„ ๋‚ด๋ ค์™”์„ ๋•Œ,
10:38
and it was just her and me for that moment,
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์ €์™€ ๋”ธ๋งŒ์˜ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์ด์—ˆ๊ณ 
10:40
I was so glad that she didn't have to say to her mother,
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์ €๋Š” ์ œ ๋”ธ์ด ์—„๋งˆ์—๊ฒŒ "์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ฐ€ ๊ณ„์…จ์œผ๋ฉด ์ข‹์•˜์„ ํ…๋ฐ์š”"
10:43
"I wish Dad could have been here."
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๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•„๋„ ๋ผ์„œ ๊ธฐ๋ปค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:45
And this is what we're doing when we make health care better.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์˜๋ฃŒ ์„œ๋น„์Šค๋ฅผ
๋ฐœ์ „์‹œํ‚ค๋ฉด์„œ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:49
Now, I want to talk briefly about a couple of other patients
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์ด์ œ ์ €๋Š” ์˜๋ฃŒ ์„œ๋น„์Šค๋ฅผ ๋ฐœ์ „์‹œํ‚ค๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”
10:52
who are doing everything in their power to improve health care.
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๋ช‡๋ช‡ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ™˜์ž์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:55
This is Regina Holliday,
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์ด๋ถ„์€ Regina Holliday์ด๋ฉฐ,
10:57
a painter in Washington DC, whose husband died of kidney cancer
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์›Œ์‹ฑํ„ด D.C.์— ์‚ฌ๋Š” ํ™”๊ฐ€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ๋‚จํŽธ์€ ์ €์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ณ‘์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ 1๋…„ ๋’ค ์‹ ์žฅ์•”์œผ๋กœ ์ฃฝ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:01
a year after my disease.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋‚จํŽธ์˜ ๋”์ฐํ•œ ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ๋ณ‘์›์ƒํ™œ์„
11:03
She's painting, here, a mural
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๋ฒฝํ™”๋กœ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:05
of his horrible final weeks in the hospital.
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๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•œ ์  ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ฐ”๋กœ
11:08
One of the things that she discovered
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์ด ํด๋”์— ๋“ค์–ด์žˆ๋Š”
11:10
was that her husband's medical record in this paper folder
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๋‚จํŽธ์˜ ์˜๋ฌด๊ธฐ๋ก์ด
์ฒด๊ณ„์ ์ด์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ๋˜ ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:14
was just disorganized.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค:
11:16
And she thought, "You know, if I have a nutrition facts label
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"์‹œ๋Ÿฌ์–ผ ๋ฐ•์Šค์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์˜์–‘์„ฑ๋ถ„ํ‘œ ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ
11:19
on the side of a cereal box,
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์ •๋ง ๊ฐ„๋‹จํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ
11:21
why can't there be something that simple
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๋ชจ๋“  ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ฐ„ํ˜ธ์‚ฌ๋‚˜
11:23
telling every new nurse who comes on duty,
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๋ชจ๋“  ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์˜์‚ฌ์—๊ฒŒ
11:25
every new doctor,
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๋‚ด ๋‚จํŽธ์˜ ์ƒํƒœ๋ฅผ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ฐ„๋‹จํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์—†์„๊นŒ?"
11:27
the basics about my husband's condition?"
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ด ์˜ํ•™ ์ •๋ณด ๋ฒฝํ™”๋ฅผ
11:29
So she painted this medical facts mural with a nutrition label,
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์˜์–‘์„ฑ๋ถ„ํ‘œ ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ
์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๋ณด์ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ
11:34
something like that,
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๋‚จํŽธ์˜ ๊ทธ๋ฆผ์— ๊ทธ๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:35
in a diagram of him.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š”, ์ž‘๋…„์—, ์ด ๊ทธ๋ฆผ์„ ๊ทธ๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:37
She then, last year, painted this diagram.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋„ ์ € ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์˜๋ฃŒ ์„œ๋น„์Šค๋ฅผ ๊ณต๋ถ€ํ–ˆ์ง€์š”.
11:40
She studied health care like me.
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11:41
She came to realize there were a lot of people
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
ํ™˜์ž ์˜นํ˜ธ ๊ด€๋ จ ์ฑ…์„ ์ผ์ง€๋งŒ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด
11:44
who'd written patient-advocate books
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ํ•™ํšŒ์—์„œ ๋…ผ์˜๋˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์„ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:46
that you just don't hear about at medical conferences.
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ํ™˜์ž๋Š” ์ •๋ง ๋œ ์‚ฌ์šฉ๋œ ์ž๋ฃŒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:49
Patients are such an underutilized resource.
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11:52
Well, as it said in my introduction,
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์ œ ๋„์ž…๋ถ€ ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ
11:54
I've gotten somewhat known for saying
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ํ™˜์ž๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ์— ์ ‘๊ทผํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:56
that patients should have access to their data.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ช‡ ๋…„ ์ „ ํ•œ ํ•™ํšŒ์—์„œ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋งํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ,
11:58
I actually said at one conference a couple of years ago,
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"๋„ค ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ์ฃผ์„ธ์š”,
12:01
"Give me my damn data,
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12:02
because you people can't be trusted to keep it clean."
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์ €๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ๋“ค์ด ๊นจ๋—ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๊ด€๋ฆฌํ•˜๋ฆฌ๋ผ ๋ฏฟ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."
12:05
And here, she has our "damned" data --
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค --
์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ง์žฅ๋‚œ์ด์ง€์š”--
12:08
it's a pun --
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12:09
which is starting to break out, starting to break through --
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๋ฐœ์ƒํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋Š”, ๋ŒํŒŒ๊ตฌ--
๋ฌผ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ์ƒ์ง•ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:12
the water symbolizes our data.
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12:14
And in fact,
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์‚ฌ์‹ค, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ์ฆ‰ํฅ์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ ์ž ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:15
I want to do a little something improvisational for you.
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ํŠธ์œ„ํ„ฐ์—์„œ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋Š”
12:18
There's a guy on Twitter that I know, a health IT guy outside Boston,
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๋ณด์Šคํ„ด ์™ธ๊ณฝ์— ์‚ฌ๋Š” ์˜๋ฃŒ IT ์ „๋ฌธ๊ฐ€๋Š”
e-ํ™˜์ž ๋žฉ์„ ์ผ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:22
and he wrote the e-Patient rap.
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12:24
And it goes like this.
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๋žฉ์€ ๋‹ค์Œ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.,
12:26
(Laughter)
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12:28
(Beatboxing)
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12:32
(Rapping) Gimme my damn data
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โ™ซ Gimme my damn data โ™ซ (๋‚ด ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ์ค˜)
12:34
I wanna be an e-Patient just like Dave
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โ™ซ I want to be an e-Patient just like Dave โ™ซ (๋‚˜๋„ Dave ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ e-Patient ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ด)
12:36
Gimme my damn data, 'cause it's my life to save
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โ™ซ Gimme my damn data, cuz it's my life to save โ™ซ (๋‚ด ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ์ค˜. ์™œ๋ƒ๋ฉด ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ตฌํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ์ƒ๋ช…์ด๋‹ˆ๊นŒ)
12:39
(Normal voice) Now, I'm not going to go any further --
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ๊นŒ์ง€ ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋งˆ์น˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:41
(Applause) (Cheering)
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(๋ฐ•์ˆ˜)
๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:56
Well, thank you. That shot the timing.
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12:58
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
13:00
Think about the possibility.
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๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด ๋ณด์„ธ์š”,
13:01
Why is it that iPhones and iPads advance far faster
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์™œ iPhone์ด๋‚˜ iPad๊ฐ€
๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ™œ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”
13:06
than the health tools that are available to you
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๊ฐ€์กฑ์˜ ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์„ ์ง€ํ‚ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์˜๋ฃŒ ๋„๊ตฌ๋“ค ๋ณด๋‹ค
13:08
to help take care of your family?
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๋” ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ๋ฐœ์ „ํ• ๊นŒ์š”?
13:10
Here's a website, VisibleBody.com, that I stumbled across.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋œ
VisibleBody.com์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:14
And I thought, "You know, I wonder what my psoas muscle is?"
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , "๋‚˜์˜ ๊ฐ€์ž๋ฏธ๊ทผ(soleus muscle)์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ด์ง€?"๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:17
So you can click on things and remove it.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์„ ํด๋ฆญํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ  ์ œ๊ฑฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:19
And I saw, "Aha! That's the kidney and the psoas muscle."
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” "์•„, ์ €๊ฒƒ์ด ์‹ ์žฅ์ด๊ณ  ๊ฐ€์ž๋ฏธ๊ทผ์ด๊ตฌ๋‚˜."
13:22
I was rotating it in 3D and saying, "I understand now."
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” 3D๋กœ ํšŒ์ „ ์‹œํ‚ค๋ฉด์„œ ๋งํ–ˆ์ง€์š”
"์ด์ œ ์ดํ•ดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค."
13:26
And then I realized it reminded me of Google Earth,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์–ด๋Š ์ฃผ์†Œ๋กœ๋“  ๋‚ ์•„๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”
13:29
where you can fly to any address.
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Google Earth๋ฅผ ์ƒ๊ธฐ์‹œ์ผฐ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:32
And I thought, "Why not take this and connect it to my digital scan data
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ,
"๋‚˜์˜ ๋””์ง€ํ„ธ ์Šค์บ” ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ์™€ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•˜์—ฌ
13:37
and have Google Earth for my body?"
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๋‚ด ๋ชธ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ Google Earth๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์—†์„๊นŒ?"
13:40
What did Google come out with this year?
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Google์—์„œ ์˜ฌํ•ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ด ๋‚˜์™”์„๊นŒ์š”?
์ด์ œ Google Body ๋ธŒ๋ผ์šฐ์ €๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:43
Now there's Google Body browser.
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13:45
But you see, it's still generic.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ์ž๋ฃŒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:47
It's not my data.
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๋‚˜์˜ ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€์š”.
13:49
But if we can get that data out from behind the dam
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋งŒ์•ฝ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋Œ์— ๊ฐ€๋‘ฌ์ ธ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ๋ฅผ
13:52
so software innovators can pounce on it
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์†Œํ”„ํŠธ์›Œ์— ๊ฐœ๋ฐœ์ž๋“ค์ด ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ
13:55
the way software innovators like to do,
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋‹ฌ๋ ค๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
13:57
who knows what we'll be able to come up with.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ์–ป์„์ง€๋Š” ์ƒ์ƒํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋กœ, ์ด๋ถ„์€ Kelly Young์ด๋ฉฐ,
14:00
One final story.
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14:01
This is Kelly Young, a rheumatoid arthritis patient from Florida.
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ํ”Œ๋กœ๋ฆฌ๋‹ค์— ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๋ฅ˜๋งˆํ‹ฐ์ฆ˜์„ฑ ๊ด€์ ˆ์—ผ
ํ™˜์ž์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์ง€๋‚œ ๋ช‡ ์ฃผ์ „์— ์ผ์–ด๋‚œ
14:06
This is a live story, unfolding just in the last few weeks.
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์‹ค์ œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:09
RA patients, as they call themselves -- her blog is "RA Warrior" --
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RA ํ™˜์ž๋Š”(๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์Šค์Šค๋กœ ๋ถ€๋ฅด๋Š” ๋ช…์นญ)--
๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ๋ธ”๋กœ๊ทธ๋Š” RA Warrior์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค--
ํฐ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:15
have a big problem,
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because 40 percent of them have no visible symptoms.
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40%์˜ RA ํ™˜์ž๋Š” ๋ณด์ด๋Š” ์ฆ์ƒ์ด ์—†๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์ง€์š”.
์ด์ ์ด ๋ณ‘์˜ ์ง„ํ–‰ ์ •๋„๋ฅผ ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ ํž˜๋“ค๊ฒŒ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:20
And that makes it really hard to tell how the disease is going,
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๋ช‡๋ช‡ ์˜์‚ฌ๋“ค์€ "๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ •๋ง ๊ณ ํ†ต ์†์— ์žˆ์–ด, ์˜ค ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ์…”."๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:23
and some doctors think, "Yeah right, you're really in pain."
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ ์กฐ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด
14:26
Well, she found, through her online research,
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์ฃผ๋กœ ์•” ์ง„๋‹จ์— ์“ฐ์ด๋Š”
14:29
a nuclear bone scan that's usually used for cancer,
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๋ผˆ ์Šค์บ”์ด ์—ผ์ฆ์„ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ
14:32
but it can also reveal inflammation.
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์“ฐ์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์„ ์•Œ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š”
14:35
And she saw that if there is no inflammation,
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๋งŒ์•ฝ ์—ผ์ฆ์ด ์—†๋‹ค๋ฉด ์Šค์บ”์ด
๊ท ์ผํ•œ ํšŒ์ƒ‰์ด ๋‚˜์˜จ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ๋„ ๋ณด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:39
then the scan is a uniform gray.
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14:41
So she took it.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๊ฒ€์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:42
And the radiologist's report said, "No cancer found."
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๋ฐฉ์‚ฌ์„  ์ „๋ฌธ์˜๋Š” "๋ฐœ๊ฒฌ๋œ ์•” ์—†์Œ"์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ณด๊ณ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์›ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:47
Well, that's not what he was supposed to do with it.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์žฌ ํŒ๋…์„ ์›ํ•˜์—ฌ ์‹ ์ฒญํ–ˆ๊ณ ,
14:49
So she wanted to have it read again,
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์˜์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ์ž˜๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:52
and her doctor fired her.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” CD๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ ธ๊ฐ”์ง€์š”.
14:54
She pulled up the CD.
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14:55
He said, "If you don't want to follow my instructions, go away."
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์˜์‚ฌ๋Š”, "์ €์˜ ์ง€์‹œ์‚ฌํ•ญ์„ ๋”ฐ๋ฅด๊ธฐ ์‹ซ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
๊ฐ€์„ธ์š”."๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์Šค์บ” ์ด๋ฏธ์ง€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” CD๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ ธ๊ฐ”๊ณ ,
15:00
So she pulled up the CD of the scan images,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์ด๊ณณ์„ ํ•œ๋ฒˆ ๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
15:03
and look at all those hot spots.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ด์ œ ๋ธ”๋กœ๊ทธ๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•˜์—ฌ
15:05
And she's now actively engaged on her blog
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๋” ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์€ ์„œ๋น„์Šค๋ฅผ ์ฐพ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:08
in looking for assistance in getting better care.
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๋ณด์„ธ์š”, ์ด ์ผ€์ด์Šค๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ถŒํ•œ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ํ™˜์ž์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค -- ์ „๋ฌธ ์˜ํ•™ ์ง€์‹์ด ์—†์Œ.
15:11
See, that is an empowered patient -- no medical training.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ๋ชจ๋‘
15:14
We are, you are,
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์˜๋ฃŒ ์„œ๋น„์Šค์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์‚ฌ์šฉ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์€ ์ž๋ฃŒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:16
the most underused resource in health care.
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15:18
What she was able to do
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๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์€
15:20
was because she had access to the raw data.
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์ฒ˜๋ฆฌ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ์— ์ ‘๊ทผํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด์„œ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ํฐ ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
15:23
How big a deal was this?
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15:24
Well at TED2009,
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TED2009์—์„œ,
15:26
Tim Berners-Lee himself, inventor of the Web,
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์›น์˜ ๊ฐœ๋ฐœ์ž์ธ Tim Berners-Lee๋Š”
15:29
gave a talk where he said the next big thing
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๊ทธ ๋‹ค์Œ ํฐ ๊ฒƒ์€
15:32
is not to have your browser find other people's articles about the data,
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๋ธŒ๋ผ์šฐ์ €๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ
๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ๊ธ€์„ ์ฝ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹Œ
๋ฏธ๊ฐ€๊ณต ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:37
but the raw data.
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15:38
And he got them chanting by the end of the talk,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ด€์ค‘๋“ค์„ ๋™์›ํ•ด ๋‹ค์Œ ๊ตฌํ˜ธ๋ฅผ ์™ธ์ณค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค,
"์ง€๊ธˆ ๋ฏธ๊ฐ€๊ณต ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ.
15:41
"Raw data now! Raw data now!"
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Raw data now."
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์˜๋ฃŒ ์„œ๋น„์Šค๋ฅผ
15:45
And I ask you,
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three words, please, to improve health care:
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๋ฐœ์ „์‹œํ‚ค๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ 3๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ถ€ํƒํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค:
15:49
Let patients help!
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ํ™˜์ž๊ฐ€ ๋„์™€์ค„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ํ•ฉ์‹œ๋‹ค.
15:51
Let patients help!
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Let patients help.
15:53
Let patients help!
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Let patients help.
15:55
Let patients help!
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Let patients help.
15:57
Thank you.
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๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:58
(Applause)
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(๋ฐ•์ˆ˜)
16:15
For all the patients around the world watching this on the Webcast,
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์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„์—์„œ ์ด webcast๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”
๋ชจ๋“  ํ™˜์ž ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„,
16:20
God bless you, everyone. Let patients help.
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๋ณต ๋ฐ›์œผ์„ธ์š”--ํ™˜์ž๊ฐ€ ๋„์™€์ค„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ํ•ฉ์‹œ๋‹ค.
ํ˜ธ์ŠคํŠธ: ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:23
Host: And bless yourself. Thank you very much.
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์ด ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ์ •๋ณด

์ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ์œ ์šฉํ•œ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ” ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์žฌ์ƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์Šคํฌ๋กค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”์ฒญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

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