Nancy Kanwisher: A neural portrait of the human mind

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Translator: Joseph Geni Reviewer: Madeleine Aronson
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Prevoditelj: Senzos Osijek Recezent: Ivan Stamenković
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Today I want to tell you
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Danas vam želim govoriti
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about a project being carried out
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o projektu provođenom
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by scientists all over the world
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od strane znanstvenika cijelog svijeta
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to paint a neural portrait of the human mind.
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za stvaranje neurološkog portreta ljudskog uma.
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And the central idea of this work
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Glavna ideja ovog rada
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is that the human mind and brain
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je prikaz kako ljudski um i mozak
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is not a single, general-purpose processor,
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nisu pojedinačni procesori općenite namjene
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but a collection of highly specialized components,
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već zbirka visoko specijaliziranih dijelova,
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each solving a different specific problem,
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gdje svaki riješava drugi specifični problem,
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and yet collectively making up
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a ipak kolektivno objedinjujući
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who we are as human beings and thinkers.
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ono što nas čini ljudskim bićima i misliocima
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To give you a feel for this idea,
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Kako bi vam približila ovu ideju,
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imagine the following scenario:
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zamislite slijedeći scenarij:
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You walk into your child's day care center.
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ulazite u dječji vrtić,
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As usual, there's a dozen kids there
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kao i obično, tucet djece
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waiting to get picked up,
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čeka da netko dođe po njih
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but this time,
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ali ovog puta
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the children's faces look weirdly similar,
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sva dječja lica izgledaju začuđujuće slično
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and you can't figure out which child is yours.
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i nemožete shvatiti koje dijete je vaše.
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Do you need new glasses?
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Trebate li možda nove naočale?
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Are you losing your mind?
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Gubite li razum?
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You run through a quick mental checklist.
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Brzo provedete mentalnu provjeru.
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No, you seem to be thinking clearly,
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Ne, izgleda da ste prisebni
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and your vision is perfectly sharp.
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i vid vam je savršeno jasan.
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And everything looks normal
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Sve izgleda normalno,
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except the children's faces.
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osim dječjih lica.
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You can see the faces,
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Možete vidjeti lica,
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but they don't look distinctive,
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ali ne izgledaju karakteristično,
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and none of them looks familiar,
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nijedno vam se ne čini poznato,
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and it's only by spotting an orange hair ribbon
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jedino primjećujući narančastu vrpcu za kosu
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that you find your daughter.
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pronalazite svoju kćer.
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This sudden loss of the ability to recognize faces
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Ovaj iznenadni gubitak sposobnosti prepoznavanja lica
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actually happens to people.
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zapravo događa se mnogim ljudima.
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It's called prosopagnosia,
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Zove se prozopagnozija,
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and it results from damage
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posljedica je oštećenja
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to a particular part of the brain.
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posebnog dijela mozga.
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The striking thing about it
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Zapanjujuća činjenica vezana za to
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is that only face recognition is impaired;
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jest da je jedino mogućnost prepoznavanja lica oštećena,
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everything else is just fine.
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dok je sve ostalo u redu.
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Prosopagnosia is one of many surprisingly specific
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Prozopagnozija je jedna od mnogih iznenađujuće specifičnih
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mental deficits that can happen after brain damage.
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mentalnih nedostataka koji se javljaju nakon oštećenja mozga.
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These syndromes collectively
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Ovi sindromi zajedno
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have suggested for a long time
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već dugo vremena sugeriraju
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that the mind is divvied up into distinct components,
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podjeljenost uma u različite komponente,
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but the effort to discover those components
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ali napor da se te komponente istraže
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has jumped to warp speed
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je nevjerovatno ubrzan
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with the invention of brain imaging technology,
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izumom tehnologije snimanja mozga,
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especially MRI.
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posebice snimanjem magnetskom rezonancijom (MR).
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So MRI enables you to see internal anatomy
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MR nam dakle omogućuje uvid u unutarnju anatomiju
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at high resolution,
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u visokoj rezoluciji,
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so I'm going to show you in a second
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sada ću vam pokazati
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a set of MRI cross-sectional images
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set MR-snimaka poprečnog presjeka
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through a familiar object,
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kroz poznate objekte,
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and we're going to fly through them
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zajedno ćemo ih preletjeti
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and you're going to try to figure out what the object is.
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a vi ćete pokušati shvatiti koji je objekt u pitanju.
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Here we go.
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Krenimo.
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It's not that easy. It's an artichoke.
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Nije toliko jednostavno.To je artičoka.
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Okay, let's try another one,
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OK,probajmo drugu.
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starting from the bottom and going through the top.
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Počinje od dna i ide prema vrhu.
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Broccoli! It's a head of broccoli.
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Brokula! To je glava brokule.
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Isn't it beautiful? I love that.
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Nije li predivno? Obožavam to.
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Okay, here's another one. It's a brain, of course.
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OK, evo još jedna. Ovo je mozak, naravno.
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In fact, it's my brain.
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Zapravo to je moj mozak.
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We're going through slices through my head like that.
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Prolazimo kroz režnjeve moje glave.
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That's my nose over on the right, and now
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To je moj nos,na desno, a sada
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we're going over here, right there.
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idemo ovdje.
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So this picture's nice, if I do say so myself,
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Ova slika je lijepa, ako mene pitate.
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but it shows only anatomy.
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Ali pokazuje samo anatomiju.
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The really cool advance with functional imaging
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Veliki napredak funkcionalnim oslikavanjem nastao je
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happened when scientists figured out how to make
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kada su znanstvenici otkrili kako napraviti
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pictures that show not just anatomy but activity,
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slike koje ne pokazuju samo anatomiju, već i aktivnost,
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that is, where neurons are firing.
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odnosno mjesto gdje se neuroni aktiviraju.
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So here's how this works.
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Dakle, evo kako to funkcionira.
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Brains are like muscles.
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Mozgovi su kao mišići.
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When they get active,
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Kada se aktiviraju,
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they need increased blood flow to supply that activity,
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trebaju povećan dotok krvi za opskrbu,
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and lucky for us, blood flow control to the brain is local,
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srećom za nas, kontrola dotoka krvi u mozak je lokalna,
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so if a bunch of neurons, say, right there
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te kada se skup neurona, recimo ovdje,
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get active and start firing,
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aktivira i počnu odašiljati,
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then blood flow increases just right there.
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tada se dotok krvi poveća baš na tom mjestu.
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So functional MRI picks up on that blood flow increase,
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Dakle funkcionalna magnetska rezonanca detektira povećan dotok krvi,
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producing a higher MRI response
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te proizvodi veći magetno rezonantni odziv
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where neural activity goes up.
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na mjestu povećane neuronske aktivnosti.
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So to give you a concrete feel
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Kako bi bolje razumijeli
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for how a functional MRI experiment goes
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izvođenje eksperimenta uz pomoć funkcionalnog MRI,
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and what you can learn from it
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te što možete naučiti
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and what you can't,
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a što ne,
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let me describe one of the first studies I ever did.
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opisat ću vam jedno od prvih istraživanja koje sam provela.
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We wanted to know if there was a special part of the brain for recognizing faces,
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Zanimalo nas je postoji li poseban dio mozga zadužen za prepoznavanje lica,
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and there was already reason to think there might be such a thing
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već je postojao razlog za takvu pretpostavku
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based on this phenomenon of prosopagnosia
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na temelju fenomena prozopagnozije
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that I described a moment ago,
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koji sam opisala maloprije,
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but nobody had ever seen that part of the brain
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no nitko nikada nije vidio taj dio mozga
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in a normal person,
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u normalne osobe,
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so we set out to look for it.
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pa smo se odlučili na njegovo pronalaženje.
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So I was the first subject.
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Ja sam bila prvim predmetom istraživanja.
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I went into the scanner, I lay on my back,
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Ušla sam pod skener, legla na leđa,
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I held my head as still as I could
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držala glavu što sam mirnije mogla
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while staring at pictures of faces like these
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dok sam gledala slike ovakvih lica
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and objects like these
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i ovakvih objekta,
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and faces and objects for hours.
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lica i objekte satima.
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So as somebody who has pretty close to the world record
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Kao osoba koja je bila vrlo blizu svjetskom rekordu
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of total number of hours spent inside an MRI scanner,
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po broju sati provedenih u skeneru magnetne rezonance
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I can tell you that one of the skills
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mogu reći da jedna od vještina
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that's really important for MRI research
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vrlo važnih za MR istraživanja
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is bladder control.
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jest vještina kontrole mokraćnog mjehura.
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
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When I got out of the scanner,
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Kada sam izašla iz skenera,
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I did a quick analysis of the data,
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brzo sam analizirala podatke,
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looking for any parts of my brain
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tražeći djelove svog mozga
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that produced a higher response when I was looking at faces
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koji su proizveli veću aktivnost za vrijeme gledanja lica
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than when I was looking at objects,
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nego gledajući objekte,
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and here's what I saw.
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ovo sam uočila.
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Now this image looks just awful by today's standards,
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Prema današnjim standardima ova slika izgleda užasno,
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but at the time I thought it was beautiful.
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no tada sam mislila da je prekrasna.
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What it shows is that region right there,
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Pokazuje taj dio, tamo,
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that little blob,
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taj mali grumen,
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it's about the size of an olive
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otprilike veličine masline
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and it's on the bottom surface of my brain
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a nalazi se na dnu površine moga mozga
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about an inch straight in from right there.
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otprilike 2.5 cm od ovdje.
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And what that part of my brain is doing
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Ono što taj dio mog mozga radi
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is producing a higher MRI response,
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je proizvodi veću fMR reakciju,
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that is, higher neural activity,
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odnosno veću moždanu aktivnost,
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when I was looking at faces
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dok gledam lica
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than when I was looking at objects.
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nego dok gledam objekte.
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So that's pretty cool,
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To je prilično dobro,
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but how do we know this isn't a fluke?
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no kako možemo znati da ovo nije slučajnost?
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Well, the easiest way
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Najlakši način,
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is to just do the experiment again.
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jest da ponovno provedemo eksperiment.
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So I got back in the scanner,
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Vratila sam se pod skener,
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I looked at more faces and I looked at more objects
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gledala sam više lica i više objakata
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and I got a similar blob,
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i dobila sam sličan grumen,
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and then I did it again
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tada sam ponovila još jednom
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and I did it again
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i još jednom
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and again and again,
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i još jednom,
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and around about then
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i otprilike tada
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I decided to believe it was for real.
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sam odlučila da ću vjerovati da je stvarno tako.
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But still, maybe this is something weird about my brain
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Možda je nešto čudno s mojim mozgom
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and no one else has one of these things in there,
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i nitko drugi nema ništa slično,
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so to find out, we scanned a bunch of other people
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te kako bi saznali, skenirali smo i druge ljude
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and found that pretty much everyone
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i saznali da skoro svi
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has that little face-processing region
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imaju to malo područje za prepoznavanje lica,
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in a similar neighborhood of the brain.
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na sličnom mjestu u mozgu.
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So the next question was,
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Slijedeće pitanje je bilo,
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what does this thing really do?
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čemu to područje zapravo služi?
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Is it really specialized just for face recognition?
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Je li usko specijalizirano samo za prepoznavanje lica?
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Well, maybe not, right?
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Možda i nije, zar ne?
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Maybe it responds not only to faces
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Možda ne reagira samo na lica
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but to any body part.
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već na bilo koji dio tijela.
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Maybe it responds to anything human
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Možda reagira na sve ljudsko
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or anything alive
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ili na sve živo
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or anything round.
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ili sve okruglo.
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The only way to be really sure that that region
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Jedini način da budemo zaista sigurni kako je to područje
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is specialized for face recognition
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specijalizirano samo za prepoznavanje lica
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is to rule out all of those hypotheses.
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je da isključimo sve ostale hipoteze.
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So we spent much of the next couple of years
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Proveli smo sljedećih nekoliko godina
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scanning subjects while they looked at lots
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skenirajući osobe koje su gledale mnoštvo
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of different kinds of images,
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različitih slika
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and we showed that that part of the brain
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i pokazali smo da taj dio mozga
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responds strongly when you look at
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reagira kada gledamo
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any images that are faces of any kind,
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slike koje pokazuju lica bilo koje vrste,
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and it responds much less strongly
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a slabije reagira
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to any image you show that isn't a face,
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na sliku koja nije slika lica,
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like some of these.
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kao neke od ovih.
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So have we finally nailed the case
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Jesmo li napokon riješili slučaj
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that this region is necessary for face recognition?
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da je to područje samo nužno za prepoznavanje lica?
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No, we haven't.
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Ne, nismo.
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Brain imaging can never tell you
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Snimanje mozga nikada nam ne može reći
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if a region is necessary for anything.
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da je neko područje nužno za bilo što.
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All you can do with brain imaging
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Sve što možemo utvrditi snimanjem mozga
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is watch regions turn on and off
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jest uključivanje i isključivanje pojednih područja
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as people think different thoughts.
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dok ljudi mijenjaju tok misli.
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To tell if a part of the brain is necessary for a mental function,
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Kako bi utvrdili nužnost dijela mozga za pojedinu mentalnu funkciju,
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you need to mess with it and see what happens,
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trebamo napraviti zbrku i vidjeti što će iz toga proizaći,
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and normally we don't get to do that.
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dok inače to ne radimo.
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But an amazing opportunity came about
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Ali nedavno se ukazala nevjerovatna prilika
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very recently when a couple of colleagues of mine
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kada je nekoliko mojih kolega,
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tested this man who has epilepsy
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testiralo čovjeka koji ima epilepsiju
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and who is shown here in his hospital bed
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koji je ovdje prikazan u bolničkom krevetu
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where he's just had electrodes placed
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s upravo stavljenim elektrodama
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on the surface of his brain
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na površinu mozga
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to identify the source of his seizures.
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kako bi pronašli izvor njegovih napadaja.
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So it turned out by total chance
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Tako se slučajno ispostavilo
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that two of the electrodes
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da su dvije od elektroda
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happened to be right on top of his face area.
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točno na vrhu područja za lica.
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So with the patient's consent,
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Uz pacijentov pristanak
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the doctors asked him what happened
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liječnici su ga pitali što se dogodilo
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when they electrically stimulated that part of his brain.
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kada su mu električki stimulirali taj dio mozga.
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Now, the patient doesn't know
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Pacijent ne zna
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where those electrodes are,
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gdje su te elektrode,
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and he's never heard of the face area.
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nikada nije čuo za područje zaduženo za lice.
07:39
So let's watch what happens.
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Pogledajmo što će se dogoditi.
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It's going to start with a control condition
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Započet će kontrolom stanja
07:43
that will say "Sham" nearly invisibly
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sa "Stimulant" skoro nevidljivim
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in red in the lower left,
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crvenim dolje lijevo,
07:47
when no current is delivered,
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dok struja još nije puštena,
07:49
and you'll hear the neurologist speaking to the patient first. So let's watch.
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prvo ćete čuti neurologa kako se obraća pacijetu. Pogledajmo.
07:53
(Video) Neurologist: Okay, just look at my face
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(Video) Neurolog: OK, samo gledajte u moje lice
07:55
and tell me what happens when I do this.
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i recite mi što se događa kad napravim ovo.
07:59
All right?
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U redu?
08:00
Patient: Okay.
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Pacijent: U redu
08:02
Neurologist: One, two, three.
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Neurolog: Jedan, dva, tri.
08:07
Patient: Nothing. Neurologist: Nothing? Okay.
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Pacijent: Ništa Neurolog: Ništa? U redu.
08:10
I'm going to do it one more time.
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Ponovit ću još jednom.
08:12
Look at my face.
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Pogledajte u moje lice.
08:15
One, two, three.
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Jedan, dva, tri.
08:20
Patient: You just turned into somebody else.
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Pacijent: Upravo ste se pretvorili u nekog drugog.
08:23
Your face metamorphosed.
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Lice vam se preobrazilo.
08:25
Your nose got saggy, it went to the left.
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Nos vam se spljoštio, išao je nalijevo.
08:28
You almost looked like somebody I'd seen before,
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Skoro ste izgledali kao netko koga sam sreo ranije.
08:31
but somebody different.
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Ali netko drugačiji.
08:34
That was a trip.
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To je bila halucinacija.
08:36
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
08:39
Nancy Kanwisher: So this experiment —
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Nancy Kanwisher: Dakle to je bio eksperiment—
08:41
(Applause) —
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(Pljesak) —
08:45
this experiment finally nails the case
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Ovaj eksperiment napokon potvrđuje
08:48
that this region of the brain is not only
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da ovo područje mozga ne samo da
08:49
selectively responsive to faces
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selektivno reagira na lica,
08:52
but causally involved in face perception.
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već ponekad uključuje i percepciju lica.
08:55
So I went through all of these details
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Prošla sam kroz sve ove detalje
08:57
about the face region to show you what it takes
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kako bih vam pokazala što je potrebno
08:59
to really establish that a part of the brain
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da stvarno ustanovimo selektivnost
09:02
is selectively involved in a specific mental process.
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tog dijela mozga u pojedinom mentalnom procesu.
09:05
Next, I'll go through much more quickly
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U nastavku ću brzo proći kroz
09:07
some of the other specialized regions of the brain
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neke druge specijalizirane dijelove mozga
09:10
that we and others have found.
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koje smo mi i drugi otkrili.
09:12
So to do this, I've spent a lot of time
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Kako bih to učinila, provela sam dosta vremena
09:14
in the scanner over the last month
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u skeneru posljednjeg mjeseca
09:16
so I can show you these things in my brain.
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da vam pokažem te strukture u svom mozgu.
09:18
So let's get started. Here's my right hemisphere.
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Počnimo. Ovo je moja desna hemisfera.
09:21
So we're oriented like that. You're looking at my head this way.
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Orijentiramo se ovako. Na taj način gledate moju glavu.
09:24
Imagine taking the skull off
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Zamislite uklonjenu lubanju
09:25
and looking at the surface of the brain like that.
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i takav pogled na površinu mozga.
09:27
Okay, now as you can see,
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U redu, kao što vidite
09:29
the surface of the brain is all folded up.
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površina mozga je sva presavijana.
09:30
So that's not good. Stuff could be hidden in there.
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To nije dobro. Svašta bi se tu moglo kriti.
09:32
We want to see the whole thing,
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Želimo vidjeti sve,
09:34
so let's inflate it so we can see the whole thing.
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podignimo to kako bismo mogli vidjeti sve.
09:37
Next, let's find that face area I've been talking about
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Pronađimo područje za lice o kojem sam vam govorila
09:40
that responds to images like these.
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reagira na slike kao što je ova.
09:42
To see that, let's turn the brain around
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Kako bismo to vidjeli, okrenimo mozak
09:43
and look on the inside surface on the bottom,
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i pogledajmo unutrašnju površinu na dnu,
09:45
and there it is, that's my face area.
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evo ga, to je moje područje za lica.
09:48
Just to the right of that is another region
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Desno od toga je drugo područje
09:50
that is shown in purple
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prikazano ljubičasto
09:52
that responds when you process color information,
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koje reagira kada obrađujete informacije o boji,
09:55
and near those regions are other regions
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blizu tog područja su druga područja
09:58
that are involved in perceiving places,
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koja su uključena pri percipiranju mjesta,
10:00
like right now, I'm seeing this layout of space around me
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kao sada, vidim ovaj raspored prostora oko mene
10:03
and these regions in green right there
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i ova područja u zelenom, ovdje
10:05
are really active.
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su zaista aktivna.
10:06
There's another one out on the outside surface again
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Postoji još jedno na vanjskoj površini
10:08
where there's a couple more face regions as well.
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gdje je još nekoliko područja za lica.
10:11
Also in this vicinity
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Također u ovoj blizini
10:14
is a region that's selectively involved
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je područje koje je selektivno uključeno
10:15
in processing visual motion,
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u procesiranju vizualnog pokreta
10:17
like these moving dots here,
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kao kod ovih pokretnih točaka ovdje,
10:19
and that's in yellow at the bottom of the brain,
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to je označeno žutim na dnu mozga,
10:21
and near that is a region that responds
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a blizu toga je područje koje reagira
10:25
when you look at images of bodies and body parts
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kada gledate u slike tijela i dijelova tijela
10:27
like these, and that region is shown in lime green
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kao ove, to je područje prikazano žutozelenom
10:30
at the bottom of the brain.
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na dnu mozga.
10:32
Now all these regions I've shown you so far
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Sva ova područja koja sam vam do sada pokazala
10:35
are involved in specific aspects of visual perception.
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su uključena u pojedine aspekte vizualnog opažanja.
10:39
Do we also have specialized brain regions
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Imamo li također specijalizirana područja u mozgu
10:41
for other senses, like hearing?
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Za druga čula, kao sluh?
10:44
Yes, we do. So if we turn the brain around a little bit,
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Da, imamo. Ako okrenemo mozak,
10:47
here's a region in dark blue
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Ovo tamno plavo područje
10:50
that we reported just a couple of months ago,
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o kojem smo izvještavali, prije nekoliko mjeseci
10:52
and this region responds strongly
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ovo područje snažno reagira
10:54
when you hear sounds with pitch, like these.
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kada čujete zvukove visokih tonova, poput ovih
10:57
(Sirens)
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(Sirene)
10:59
(Cello music)
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(Zvuk violončela)
11:01
(Doorbell)
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(Zvono)
11:03
In contrast, that same region does not respond strongly
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No ta ista područja ne reagiraju snažno
11:07
when you hear perfectly familiar sounds
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kada čujete poznate zvukove
11:08
that don't have a clear pitch, like these.
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koji nemaju jasne tonove, kao ove
11:11
(Chomping)
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(Žvakanje)
11:13
(Drum roll)
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(Bubnjanje)
11:15
(Toilet flushing)
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(Puštanje vode na wc-u)
11:18
Okay. Next to the pitch region
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U redu. Pokraj područja za visoke tonove
11:21
is another set of regions that are selectively responsive
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je drugi skup područja koji selektivno reagiraju
11:23
when you hear the sounds of speech.
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kada čujete zvuk govora.
11:26
Okay, now let's look at these same regions.
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U redu, pogledajmo sada ta ista područja.
11:28
In my left hemisphere, there's a similar arrangement —
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U mojoj lijevoj hemisferi je sličan raspored—
11:30
not identical, but similar —
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ne identičan, već sličan—
11:32
and most of the same regions are in here,
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i većina istih područja su ovdje,
11:34
albeit sometimes different in size.
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ponekad ipak različite veličine.
11:36
Now, everything I've shown you so far
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Sve što sam vam do sada pokazala
11:38
are regions that are involved in different aspects of perception,
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su područja uključena u različite aspekte percepcije
11:41
vision and hearing.
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vida i sluha.
11:43
Do we also have specialized brain regions
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Imamo li specijalizirane regije u mozgu
11:44
for really fancy, complicated mental processes?
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Za zahtjevne, složene mentalne aktivnosti?
11:48
Yes, we do.
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Imamo.
11:49
So here in pink are my language regions.
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Ovdje ružičasto su moja područja za jezik.
11:53
So it's been known for a very long time
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Dugo vremena je poznato
11:54
that that general vicinity of the brain
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da je područje mozga
11:56
is involved in processing language,
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uključeno u obradi jezika,
11:58
but we showed very recently
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no mi smo nedavno pokazali
12:00
that these pink regions
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da ova ružičasta područja
12:02
respond extremely selectively.
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reagiraju izrazito selektivno.
12:04
They respond when you understand the meaning of a sentence,
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Reagiraju kada razumijete značenje rečenice,
12:07
but not when you do other complex mental things,
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ali ne i pri drugim, složenijim mentalnim procesima,
12:10
like mental arithmetic
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naprimjer računanju,
12:12
or holding information in memory
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pamćenju informacija
12:14
or appreciating the complex structure
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ili uživanju u kompleksnoj strukturi
12:17
in a piece of music.
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glazbenog komada.
12:21
The most amazing region that's been found yet
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Najnevjerojatnije područje koje je pronađeno do sada
12:24
is this one right here in turquoise.
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je ovo ovdje, tirkizno.
12:27
This region responds
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Ovo područje reagira
12:30
when you think about what another person is thinking.
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dok razmišljate o čemu druga osoba razmišlja.
12:34
So that may seem crazy,
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Iako se čini ludo,
12:35
but actually, we humans do this all the time.
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zapravo mi ljudi činimo to svakodnevno.
12:39
You're doing this when you realize
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To radimo kada shvatimo
12:42
that your partner is going to be worried
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da će naš partner bit zabrinut
12:43
if you don't call home to say you're running late.
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ako se ne javimo da kasnimo.
12:46
I'm doing this with that region of my brain right now
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Činim to upravo sada
12:49
when I realize that you guys
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kada shvaćam da se vi
12:51
are probably now wondering about
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vjerojatno upravo pitate
12:53
all that gray, uncharted territory in the brain,
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što sa svim tim sivim, neoznačenim područjima mozga,
12:56
and what's up with that?
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što s njima?
12:58
Well, I'm wondering about that too,
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Zapravo i mene to zanima,
12:59
and we're running a bunch of experiments in my lab right now
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Provodimo niz eksperimenata u mojem laboratoriju
13:02
to try to find a number of other
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pokušavamo pronaći niz drugih
13:04
possible specializations in the brain
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mogućih specijalizacija u mozgu
13:06
for other very specific mental functions.
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za druge specifične mentalne funkcije.
13:09
But importantly, I don't think we have
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No ono što je važnije, ne smatram da imamo
13:12
specializations in the brain
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specijalizirana područja mozga
13:13
for every important mental function,
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za svaku važniju mentalnu funkciju,
13:16
even mental functions that may be critical for survival.
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čak ni za one mentalne funkcije važne za opstanak.
13:19
In fact, a few years ago,
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Naprotiv, prije par godina,
13:21
there was a scientist in my lab
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u mojem labu bio je znanstvenik
13:23
who became quite convinced
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koji je bio prilično uvjeren
13:24
that he'd found a brain region
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da je pronašao područje u mozgu
13:26
for detecting food,
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za otkrivanje hrane,
13:28
and it responded really strongly in the scanner
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reagiralo je veoma snažno na skeneru
13:30
when people looked at images like this.
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kada bi ljudi gledali slike kao što je ova.
13:32
And further, he found a similar response
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Nadalje, pronšao je sličan odgovor
13:35
in more or less the same location
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na manje više istoj lokaciji
13:37
in 10 out of 12 subjects.
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kod 10 od 12 ispitanika.
13:39
So he was pretty stoked,
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bio je prilično uživljen,
13:41
and he was running around the lab
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trčao je po laboratoriju
13:43
telling everyone that he was going to go on "Oprah"
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govoreći svima da će ići na Oprah show
13:45
with his big discovery.
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sa ovim velikim otkrićem.
13:47
But then he devised the critical test:
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No tada je sastavio kritičan test:
13:50
He showed subjects images of food like this
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pokazao je ispitanicima slike hrane kao što su ove
13:53
and compared them to images with very similar
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i usporedio ih sa slikama sličnih
13:56
color and shape, but that weren't food, like these.
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boja i oblika, ali to nije bila hrana, kao ove.
13:59
And his region responded the same
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To područje reagiralo je jednako
14:02
to both sets of images.
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u oba slučaja.
14:04
So it wasn't a food area,
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Dakle to nije bilo područje za hranu,
14:05
it was just a region that liked colors and shapes.
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već samo područje za boju i oblik općenito.
14:08
So much for "Oprah."
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Toliko o Oprah show-u.
14:12
But then the question, of course, is,
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No postavlja se pitanje
14:14
how do we process all this other stuff
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kako obrađujemo sve ono
14:16
that we don't have specialized brain regions for?
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za što nemamo specijalizirana područja u mozgu?
14:19
Well, I think the answer is that in addition
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Mislim da je odgovor,
14:21
to these highly specialized components that I've been describing,
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pored ovih visoko specijaliziranih komponenti koje sam opisivala,
14:25
we also have a lot of very general- purpose machinery in our heads
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također u velikim područjima opće namjene,koje posjedujemo
14:28
that enables us to tackle
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A omogućuju sam da riješavamo
14:30
whatever problem comes along.
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problem koji naiđe.
14:32
In fact, we've shown recently that
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Zapravo, nedavno smo pokazali
14:34
these regions here in white
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da ova područja u bijelom
14:36
respond whenever you do any difficult mental task
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reagiraju kada vršimo neki teži mentalni zadatak
14:39
at all —
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i uopće —
14:41
well, of the seven that we've tested.
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barem kod sedam koje smo testirali.
14:44
So each of the brain regions that I've described
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Svaka od regija u mozgu koje sam vam
14:46
to you today
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opisala danas
14:48
is present in approximately the same location
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je prisutna na otprilike istoj lokaciji
14:50
in every normal subject.
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kod svakog normalnog ispitanika.
14:52
I could take any of you,
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Mogu uzeti bilo koga od vas,
14:54
pop you in the scanner,
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ubaciti vas u skener,
14:55
and find each of those regions in your brain,
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i pronaći svaku od tih regija vašem mozgu,
14:57
and it would look a lot like my brain,
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izgledalo bi kao moj mozak,
14:59
although the regions would be slightly different
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iako ponešto drugačiji
15:01
in their exact location and in their size.
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u njihovoj lokaciji i veličini.
15:05
What's important to me about this work
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Ono što je za mene važno u ovom radu
15:07
is not the particular locations of these brain regions,
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nije sama lokacija tih područja u mozgu,
15:10
but the simple fact that we have
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već na prvom mjestu, sama činjenica da posjedujemo
15:13
selective, specific components of mind and brain
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selektivne, specifične komponente
15:15
in the first place.
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uma i mozga.
15:17
I mean, it could have been otherwise.
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Moglo je biti i obrnuto.
15:19
The brain could have been a single,
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Mozak je mogao biti jednoznačni,
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general-purpose processor,
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procesor opće namjene,
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more like a kitchen knife
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više kao običan kuhinjski nož
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than a Swiss Army knife.
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nego švicarski vojni nož.
15:26
Instead, what brain imaging has delivered
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Snimanje mozga nam je omogućilo pogled
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is this rich and interesting picture of the human mind.
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na ovu bogatu i zanimljivu sliku ljudskog uma.
15:33
So we have this picture of very general-purpose
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Imamo slike veoma općenite namjene
15:35
machinery in our heads
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mašinerije u našim glavama
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in addition to this surprising array
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uz ovaj iznenađujući niz
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of very specialized components.
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visoko specijaliziranih komponenti.
15:43
It's early days in this enterprise.
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To su tek počeci.
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We've painted only the first brushstrokes
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Oslikali smo tek prve poteze
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in our neural portrait of the human mind.
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neurološkog portreta ljudskog uma.
15:51
The most fundamental questions remain unanswered.
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Najfundamentalnija pitanja ostaju neodgovorena.
15:54
So for example, what does each of these regions do exactly?
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Naprimjer, što svako od tih područja točno radi
15:58
Why do we need three face areas
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Zašto trebamo tri područja za lice,
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and three place areas,
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tri područja za mjesta,
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and what's the division of labor between them?
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kakva je podjela rada među njima?
16:04
Second, how are all these things
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Nadalje kako su
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connected in the brain?
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povezani u mozgu?
16:09
With diffusion imaging,
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Difuznim snimanjem,
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you can trace bundles of neurons
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Možete pratiti snop neurona
16:13
that connect to different parts of the brain,
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koji povezuju različite strane mozga,
16:15
and with this method shown here,
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a ovom metodom pokazanom ovdje,
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you can trace the connections of individual neurons in the brain,
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možete pratiti pojedinačnu povezanost neurona u mozgu,
16:20
potentially someday giving us a wiring diagram
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s mogućnošću da jednog dana dobijemo umreženi dijagram
16:23
of the entire human brain.
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čitavog ljudskog mozga.
16:25
Third, how does all of this
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Nadalje, kako se ove
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very systematic structure get built,
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veoma sistematske strukture izgrađuju,
16:30
both over development in childhood
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tijekom razvoja u djetinjstvu
16:33
and over the evolution of our species?
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kao i tijekom čitave evulucije naše vrste?
16:36
To address questions like that,
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Kako bi odgovorili na sva ova pitanja,
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scientists are now scanning
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znanstvenici sada skeniraju
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other species of animals,
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različite životinjske vrste,
16:42
and they're also scanning human infants.
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kao i sama ljudska novorođenča.
16:48
Many people justify the high cost of neuroscience research
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Mnogi opravdavaju visoku cijenu neuroloških istraživanja
16:52
by pointing out that it may help us someday
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naglašavajući da bi nam jednog dana mogla pomoći
16:55
to treat brain disorders like Alzheimer's and autism.
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pri liječenju poremećaja kao što je Alzheimerova bolest ili autizam.
16:58
That's a hugely important goal,
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Što je veoma važan cilj,
17:00
and I'd be thrilled if any of my work contributed to it,
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i bila bi oduševljena kada bi moj rad pridonio tome,
17:03
but fixing things that are broken in the world
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popravljanje pokvarenih stvari u svijetu
17:06
is not the only thing that's worth doing.
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nije jedina stvar vrijedna bavljenja.
17:09
The effort to understand the human mind and brain
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Napor da se razumije ljudski um i mozak
17:12
is worthwhile even if it never led to the treatment
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je vrijedan čak i ako ne pridonesi izliječenju
17:15
of a single disease.
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iti jedne bolesti.
17:17
What could be more thrilling
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Što bi moglo biti uzbudljivije
17:19
than to understand the fundamental mechanisms
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od razumijevanja osnovnog mehanizma
17:22
that underlie human experience,
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na kojima se zasniva ljudsko iskustvo,
17:24
to understand, in essence, who we are?
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da razumijemo, u biti, tko smo zapravo?
17:27
This is, I think, the greatest scientific quest
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To je, po mome mišljenu, najzahtijevniji zadatak znanosti
17:31
of all time.
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svih vremena.
17:34
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
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