Eric X. Li: A tale of two political systems

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Good morning.
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My name is Eric Li, and I was born here.
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But no, I wasn't born there.
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This was where I was born:
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Shanghai, at the height of the Cultural Revolution.
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My grandmother tells me that she heard
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the sound of gunfire along with my first cries.
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When I was growing up, I was told a story
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that explained all I ever needed to know about humanity.
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It went like this.
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All human societies develop in linear progression,
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beginning with primitive society, then slave society,
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feudalism, capitalism, socialism,
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and finally, guess where we end up?
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Communism!
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Sooner or later, all of humanity,
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regardless of culture, language, nationality,
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will arrive at this final stage
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of political and social development.
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The entire world's peoples will be unified
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in this paradise on Earth
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and live happily ever after.
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But before we get there, we're engaged
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in a struggle between good and evil,
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the good of socialism against the evil of capitalism,
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and the good shall triumph.
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That, of course, was the meta-narrative
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distilled from the theories of Karl Marx.
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And the Chinese bought it.
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We were taught that grand story day in and day out.
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It became part of us, and we believed in it.
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The story was a bestseller.
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About one third of the entire world's population
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lived under that meta-narrative.
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Then, the world changed overnight.
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As for me, disillusioned by the failed religion of my youth,
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I went to America and became a Berkeley hippie.
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(Laughter)
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Now, as I was coming of age, something else happened.
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As if one big story wasn't enough,
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I was told another one.
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This one was just as grand.
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It also claims that all human societies
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develop in a linear progression towards a singular end.
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This one went as follows:
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All societies, regardless of culture,
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be it Christian, Muslim, Confucian,
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must progress from traditional societies
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in which groups are the basic units
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to modern societies in which atomized individuals
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are the sovereign units,
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and all these individuals are, by definition, rational,
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and they all want one thing:
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the vote.
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Because they are all rational, once given the vote,
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they produce good government
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and live happily ever after.
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Paradise on Earth, again.
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Sooner or later, electoral democracy will be
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the only political system for all countries and all peoples,
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with a free market to make them all rich.
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But before we get there, we're engaged in a struggle
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between good and evil.
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(Laughter)
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The good belongs to those who are democracies
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and are charged with a mission of spreading it
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around the globe, sometimes by force,
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against the evil of those who do not hold elections.
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(Video) George H.W. Bush: A new world order...
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(Video) George W. Bush:... ending tyranny in our world...
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(Video) Barack Obama:... a single standard for all
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who would hold power.
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Eric X. Li: Now --
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(Laughter) (Applause)
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This story also became a bestseller.
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According to Freedom House,
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the number of democracies went from 45 in 1970
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to 115 in 2010.
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In the last 20 years, Western elites tirelessly
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trotted around the globe selling this prospectus:
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Multiple parties fight for political power
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and everyone voting on them
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is the only path to salvation
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to the long-suffering developing world.
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Those who buy the prospectus are destined for success.
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Those who do not are doomed to fail.
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But this time, the Chinese didn't buy it.
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Fool me once...
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(Laughter)
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The rest is history.
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In just 30 years, China went from
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one of the poorest agricultural countries in the world
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to its second-largest economy.
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Six hundred fifty million people
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were lifted out of poverty.
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Eighty percent of the entire world's poverty alleviation
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during that period happened in China.
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In other words, all the new and old democracies
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put together amounted to a mere fraction
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of what a single, one-party state did without voting.
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See, I grew up on this stuff: food stamps.
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Meat was rationed to a few hundred grams
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per person per month at one point.
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Needless to say, I ate all my grandmother's portions.
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So I asked myself, what's wrong with this picture?
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Here I am in my hometown,
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my business growing leaps and bounds.
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Entrepreneurs are starting companies every day.
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Middle class is expanding in speed and scale
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unprecedented in human history.
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Yet, according to the grand story,
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none of this should be happening.
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So I went and did the only thing I could. I studied it.
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Yes, China is a one-party state
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run by the Chinese Communist Party, the Party,
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and they don't hold elections.
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Three assumptions are made
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by the dominant political theories of our time.
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Such a system is operationally rigid,
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politically closed, and morally illegitimate.
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Well, the assumptions are wrong.
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The opposites are true.
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Adaptability, meritocracy, and legitimacy
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are the three defining characteristics
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of China's one-party system.
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Now, most political scientists will tell us
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that a one-party system is inherently incapable
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of self-correction.
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It won't last long because it cannot adapt.
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Now here are the facts.
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In 64 years of running the largest country in the world,
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the range of the Party's policies has been wider
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than any other country in recent memory,
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from radical land collectivization to the Great Leap Forward,
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then privatization of farmland,
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then the Cultural Revolution,
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then Deng Xiaoping's market reform,
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then successor Jiang Zemin took the giant political step
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of opening up Party membership to private businesspeople,
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something unimaginable during Mao's rule.
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So the Party self-corrects in rather dramatic fashions.
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Institutionally, new rules get enacted
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to correct previous dysfunctions.
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For example, term limits.
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Political leaders used to retain their positions for life,
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and they used that to accumulate power
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and perpetuate their rules.
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Mao was the father of modern China,
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yet his prolonged rule led to disastrous mistakes.
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So the Party instituted term limits
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with mandatory retirement age of 68 to 70.
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One thing we often hear is,
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"Political reforms have lagged far behind economic reforms,"
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and "China is in dire need of political reform."
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But this claim is a rhetorical trap
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hidden behind a political bias.
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See, some have decided a priori
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what kinds of changes they want to see,
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and only such changes can be called political reform.
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The truth is, political reforms have never stopped.
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Compared with 30 years ago, 20 years, even 10 years ago,
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every aspect of Chinese society,
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how the country is governed,
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from the most local level to the highest center,
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are unrecognizable today.
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Now such changes are simply not possible
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without political reforms of the most fundamental kind.
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Now I would venture to suggest the Party
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is the world's leading expert in political reform.
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The second assumption is that in a one-party state,
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power gets concentrated in the hands of the few,
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and bad governance and corruption follow.
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Indeed, corruption is a big problem,
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but let's first look at the larger context.
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Now, this may be counterintuitive to you.
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The Party happens to be one of the most meritocratic
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political institutions in the world today.
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China's highest ruling body, the Politburo, has 25 members.
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In the most recent one, only five of them
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came from a background of privilege, so-called princelings.
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The other 20, including the president and the premier,
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came from entirely ordinary backgrounds.
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In the larger central committee of 300 or more,
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the percentage of those who were born
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into power and wealth was even smaller.
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The vast majority of senior Chinese leaders
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worked and competed their way to the top.
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Compare that with the ruling elites
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in both developed and developing countries,
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I think you'll find the Party being near the top
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in upward mobility.
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The question then is, how could that be possible
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in a system run by one party?
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Now we come to a powerful political institution,
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little-known to Westerners:
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the Party's Organization Department.
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The department functions like a giant
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human resource engine that would be the envy
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of even some of the most successful corporations.
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It operates a rotating pyramid
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made up of three components:
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civil service, state-owned enterprises,
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and social organizations like a university
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or a community program.
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They form separate yet integrated career paths
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for Chinese officials.
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They recruit college grads into entry-level positions
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in all three tracks, and they start from the bottom,
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called "keyuan" [clerk].
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Then they could get promoted
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through four increasingly elite ranks:
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fuke [deputy section manager], ke [section manager], fuchu [deputy division manager], and chu [division manger].
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Now these are not moves from "Karate Kid," okay?
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It's serious business.
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The range of positions is wide,
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from running health care in a village
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to foreign investment in a city district
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to manager in a company.
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Once a year, the department reviews their performance.
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They interview their superiors, their peers,
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their subordinates. They vet their personal conduct.
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They conduct public opinion surveys.
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Then they promote the winners.
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Throughout their careers, these cadres
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can move through and out of all three tracks.
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Over time, the good ones move beyond the four base levels
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to the fuju [deputy bureau chief] and ju [bureau chief] levels.
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There, they enter high officialdom.
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By that point, a typical assignment will be
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to manage a district with a population in the millions
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or a company with hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue.
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Just to show you how competitive the system is,
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in 2012, there were 900,000 fuke and ke levels,
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600,000 fuchu and chu levels,
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and only 40,000 fuju and ju levels.
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After the ju levels,
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the best few move further up several more ranks,
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and eventually make it to the Central Committee.
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The process takes two to three decades.
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Does patronage play a role? Yes, of course.
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But merit remains the fundamental driver.
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In essence, the Organization Department runs
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a modernized version of China's centuries-old
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mentoring system.
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China's new president, Xi Jinping,
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is the son of a former leader, which is very unusual,
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first of his kind to make the top job.
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Even for him, the career took 30 years.
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He started as a village manager,
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and by the time he entered the Politburo,
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he had managed areas with a total population
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of 150 million people
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and combined GDPs of 1.5 trillion U.S. dollars.
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Now, please don't get me wrong, okay?
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This is not a put-down of anyone. It's just a statement of fact.
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George W. Bush, remember him?
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This is not a put-down.
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(Laughter)
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Before becoming governor of Texas,
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or Barack Obama before running for president,
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could not make even a small county manager
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in China's system.
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Winston Churchill once said that democracy
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is a terrible system except for all the rest.
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Well, apparently he hadn't heard of the Organization Department.
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Now, Westerners always assume that
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multi-party election with universal suffrage
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is the only source of political legitimacy.
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I was asked once, "The Party wasn't voted in by election.
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Where is the source of legitimacy?"
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I said, "How about competency?"
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We all know the facts.
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In 1949, when the Party took power,
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China was mired in civil wars, dismembered by foreign aggression,
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average life expectancy at that time, 41 years old.
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Today, it's the second largest economy in the world,
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an industrial powerhouse, and its people live
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in increasing prosperity.
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Pew Research polls Chinese public attitudes,
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and here are the numbers in recent years.
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Satisfaction with the direction of the country: 85 percent.
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Those who think they're better off than five years ago:
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70 percent.
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Those who expect the future to be better:
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a whopping 82 percent.
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Financial Times polls global youth attitudes,
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and these numbers, brand new, just came from last week.
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Ninety-three percent of China's Generation Y
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are optimistic about their country's future.
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Now, if this is not legitimacy, I'm not sure what is.
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In contrast, most electoral democracies around the world
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are suffering from dismal performance.
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I don't need to elaborate for this audience
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how dysfunctional it is, from Washington to European capitals.
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With a few exceptions, the vast number
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of developing countries that have adopted electoral regimes
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are still suffering from poverty and civil strife.
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Governments get elected, and then they fall
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below 50 percent approval in a few months
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and stay there and get worse until the next election.
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Democracy is becoming a perpetual cycle
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of elect and regret.
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At this rate, I'm afraid it is democracy,
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not China's one-party system, that is in danger
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of losing legitimacy.
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Now, I don't want to create the misimpression
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that China's hunky-dory, on the way
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to some kind of superpowerdom.
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The country faces enormous challenges.
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The social and economic problems that come
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with wrenching change like this are mind-boggling.
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Pollution is one. Food safety. Population issues.
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On the political front, the worst problem is corruption.
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Corruption is widespread and undermines the system
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and its moral legitimacy.
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But most analysts misdiagnose the disease.
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They say that corruption is the result of the one-party system,
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and therefore, in order to cure it,
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you have to do away with the entire system.
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But a more careful look would tell us otherwise.
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Transparency International ranks China
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between 70 and 80 in recent years among 170 countries,
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and it's been moving up.
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India, the largest democracy in the world,
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94 and dropping.
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For the hundred or so countries that are ranked below China,
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more than half of them are electoral democracies.
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So if election is the panacea for corruption,
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how come these countries can't fix it?
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Now, I'm a venture capitalist. I make bets.
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It wouldn't be fair to end this talk without
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putting myself on the line and making some predictions.
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So here they are.
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In the next 10 years, China will surpass the U.S.
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and become the largest economy in the world.
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Income per capita will be near the top
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of all developing countries.
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Corruption will be curbed, but not eliminated,
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and China will move up 10 to 20 notches
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to above 60 in T.I. ranking.
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Economic reform will accelerate, political reform will continue,
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and the one-party system will hold firm.
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We live in the dusk of an era.
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Meta-narratives that make universal claims
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failed us in the 20th century
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and are failing us in the 21st.
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Meta-narrative is the cancer
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that is killing democracy from the inside.
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Now, I want to clarify something.
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I'm not here to make an indictment of democracy.
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On the contrary, I think democracy contributed
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to the rise of the West and the creation of the modern world.
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It is the universal claim that many Western elites
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are making about their political system, the hubris,
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that is at the heart of the West's current ills.
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If they would spend just a little less time
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on trying to force their way onto others,
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and a little bit more on political reform at home,
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they might give their democracy a better chance.
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China's political model will never supplant
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electoral democracy, because unlike the latter,
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it doesn't pretend to be universal.
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It cannot be exported. But that is the point precisely.
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The significance of China's example
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is not that it provides an alternative,
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but the demonstration that alternatives exist.
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Let us draw to a close this era of meta-narratives.
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Communism and democracy may both be laudable ideals,
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but the era of their dogmatic universalism is over.
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Let us stop telling people and our children
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there's only one way to govern ourselves
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and a singular future towards which
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all societies must evolve.
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It is wrong. It is irresponsible.
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And worst of all, it is boring.
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Let universality make way for plurality.
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Perhaps a more interesting age is upon us.
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Are we brave enough to welcome it?
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Thank you.
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(Applause)
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks.
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Bruno Giussani: Eric, stay with me for a couple of minutes,
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because I want to ask you a couple of questions.
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I think many here, and in general in Western countries,
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would agree with your statement about analysis
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of democratic systems becoming dysfunctional,
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but at the same time, many would kind of find
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unsettling the thought that there is an unelected
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authority that, without any form of oversight or consultation,
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decides what the national interest is.
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What is the mechanism in the Chinese model
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that allows people to say, actually,
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the national interest as you defined it is wrong?
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EXL: You know, Frank Fukuyama, the political scientist,
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called the Chinese system "responsive authoritarianism."
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It's not exactly right, but I think it comes close.
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So I know the largest public opinion survey company
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in China, okay?
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Do you know who their biggest client is?
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The Chinese government.
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Not just from the central government,
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the city government, the provincial government,
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to the most local neighborhood districts.
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They conduct surveys all the time.
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Are you happy with the garbage collection?
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Are you happy with the general direction of the country?
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So there is, in China, there is a different kind of mechanism
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to be responsive to the demands and the thinking of the people.
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My point is, I think we should get unstuck
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from the thinking that there's only one political system --
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election, election, election --
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that could make it responsive.
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I'm not sure, actually, elections produce
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responsive government anymore in the world.
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(Applause)
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BG: Many seem to agree.
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One of the features of a democratic system
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is a space for civil society to express itself.
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And you have shown figures about the support
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that the government and the authorities have in China.
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But then you've just mentioned other elements
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like, you know, big challenges, and there are, of course,
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a lot of other data that go in a different direction:
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tens of thousands of unrests and protests
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and environmental protests, etc.
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So you seem to suggest the Chinese model
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doesn't have a space outside of the Party
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for civil society to express itself.
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EXL: There's a vibrant civil society in China,
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whether it's environment or what-have-you.
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But it's different. You wouldn't recognize it.
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Because, by Western definitions, a so-called civil society
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has to be separate or even in opposition
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to the political system,
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but that concept is alien for Chinese culture.
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For thousands of years, you have civil society,
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yet they are consistent and coherent
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and part of a political order, and I think
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it's a big cultural difference.
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BG: Eric, thank you for sharing this with TED. EXL: Thank you.
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