The silent drama of photography | Sebastião Salgado

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I'm not sure that every person here
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is familiar with my pictures.
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I want to start to show just a few pictures to you,
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and after I'll speak.
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I must speak to you a little bit of my history,
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because we'll be speaking on this
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during my speech here.
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I was born in 1944 in Brazil,
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in the times that Brazil was not yet a market economy.
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I was born on a farm,
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a farm that was more than 50 percent rainforest [still].
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A marvelous place.
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I lived with incredible birds, incredible animals,
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I swam in our small rivers with our caimans.
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It was about 35 families that lived on this farm,
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and everything that we produced on this farm, we consumed.
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Very few things went to the market.
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Once a year, the only thing that went to the market
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was the cattle that we produced,
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and we made trips of about 45 days
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to reach the slaughterhouse,
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bringing thousands of head of cattle,
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and about 20 days traveling back
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to reach our farm again.
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When I was 15 years old,
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it was necessary for me to leave this place
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and go to a town a little bit bigger -- much bigger --
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where I did the second part of secondary school.
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There I learned different things.
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Brazil was starting to urbanize, industrialize,
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and I knew the politics. I became a little bit radical,
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I was a member of leftist parties,
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and I became an activist.
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I [went to] university to become an economist.
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I [did] a master's degree in economics.
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And the most important thing in my life
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also happened in this time.
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I met an incredible girl
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who became my lifelong best friend,
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and my associate in everything that I have done till now,
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my wife, Lélia Wanick Salgado.
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Brazil radicalized very strongly.
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We fought very hard against the dictatorship,
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in a moment it was necessary to us:
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Either go into clandestinity with weapons in hand,
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or leave Brazil. We were too young,
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and our organization thought it was better for us to go out,
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and we went to France,
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where I did a PhD in economics,
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Léila became an architect.
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I worked after for an investment bank.
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We made a lot of trips, financed development,
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economic projects in Africa with the World Bank.
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And one day photography made a total invasion in my life.
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I became a photographer,
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abandoned everything and became a photographer,
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and I started to do the photography
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that was important for me.
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Many people tell me that you are a photojournalist,
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that you are an anthropologist photographer,
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that you are an activist photographer.
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But I did much more than that.
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I put photography as my life.
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I lived totally inside photography
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doing long term projects,
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and I want to show you just a few pictures
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of -- again, you'll see inside the social projects,
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that I went to, I published many books
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on these photographs,
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but I'll just show you a few ones now.
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In the '90s, from 1994 to 2000,
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I photographed a story called Migrations.
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It became a book. It became a show.
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But during the time that I was photographing this,
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I lived through a very hard moment in my life, mostly in Rwanda.
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I saw in Rwanda total brutality.
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I saw deaths by thousands per day.
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I lost my faith in our species.
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I didn't believe that it was possible for us to live any longer,
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and I started to be attacked by my own Staphylococcus.
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I started to have infection everywhere.
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When I made love with my wife, I had no sperm that came out of me;
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I had blood.
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I went to see a friend's doctor in Paris,
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told him that I was completely sick.
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He made a long examination, and told me, "Sebastian,
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you are not sick, your prostate is perfect.
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What happened is, you saw so many deaths that you are dying.
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You must stop. Stop.
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You must stop because on the contrary, you will be dead."
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And I made the decision to stop.
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I was really upset with photography,
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with everything in the world,
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and I made the decision to go back to where I was born.
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It was a big coincidence.
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It was the moment that my parents became very old.
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I have seven sisters. I'm one of the only men in my family,
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and they made together the decision
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to transfer this land to Léila and myself.
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When we received this land, this land was as dead as I was.
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When I was a kid, it was more than 50 percent rainforest.
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When we received the land,
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it was less than half a percent rainforest,
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as in all my region.
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To build development, Brazilian development,
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we destroyed a lot of our forest.
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As you did here in the United States,
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or you did in India, everywhere in this planet.
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To build our development,
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we come to a huge contradiction
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that we destroy around us everything.
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This farm that had thousands of head of cattle
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had just a few hundreds,
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and we didn't know how to deal with these.
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And Léila came up with an incredible idea, a crazy idea.
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She said, why don't you put back the rainforest that was here before?
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You say that you were born in paradise.
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Let's build the paradise again.
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And I went to see a good friend
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that was engineering forests
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to prepare a project for us,
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and we started. We started to plant, and this
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first year we lost a lot of trees, second year less,
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and slowly, slowly this dead land started to be born again.
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We started to plant hundreds of thousands of trees,
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only local species, only native species,
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where we built an ecosystem identical to the one that was destroyed,
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and the life started to come back in an incredible way.
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It was necessary for us to transform our land
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into a national park.
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We transformed. We gave this land back to nature.
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It became a national park.
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We created an institution called Instituto Terra,
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and we built a big environmental project to raise money everywhere.
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Here in Los Angeles, in the Bay Area in San Francisco,
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it became tax deductible in the United States.
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We raised money in Spain, in Italy, a lot in Brazil.
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We worked with a lot of companies in Brazil
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that put money into this project, the government.
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And the life started to come, and I had a big wish
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to come back to photography, to photograph again.
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And this time, my wish was not to photograph anymore
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just one animal that I had photographed all my life: us.
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I wished to photograph the other animals,
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to photograph the landscapes,
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to photograph us, but us from the beginning,
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the time we lived in equilibrium with nature.
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And I went. I started in the beginning of 2004,
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and I finished at the end of 2011.
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We created an incredible amount of pictures,
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and the result -- Lélia did the design of all my books,
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the design of all my shows. She is the creator of the shows.
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And what we want with these pictures
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is to create a discussion about what we have that is pristine on the planet
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and what we must hold on this planet
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if we want to live, to have some equilibrium in our life.
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And I wanted to see us
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when we used, yes, our instruments in stone.
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We exist yet. I was last week
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at the Brazilian National Indian Foundation,
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and only in the Amazon we have about 110 groups
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of Indians that are not contacted yet.
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We must protect the forest in this sense.
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And with these pictures, I hope that we can create
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information, a system of information.
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We tried to do a new presentation of the planet,
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and I want to show you now just a few pictures
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of this project, please.
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Well, this — (Applause) —
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Thank you. Thank you very much.
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This is what we must fight hard
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to hold like it is now.
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But there is another part that we must together rebuild,
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to build our societies, our modern family of societies,
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we are at a point where we cannot go back.
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But we create an incredible contradiction.
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To build all this, we destroy a lot.
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Our forest in Brazil, that antique forest
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that was the size of California,
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is destroyed today 93 percent.
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Here, on the West Coast, you've destroyed your forest.
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Around here, no? The redwood forests are gone.
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Gone very fast, disappeared.
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Coming the other day from Atlanta, here, two days ago,
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I was flying over deserts
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that we made, we provoked with our own hands.
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India has no more trees. Spain has no more trees.
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And we must rebuild these forests.
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That is the essence of our life, these forests.
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We need to breathe. The only factory
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capable to transform CO2 into oxygen,
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are the forests.
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The only machine capable to capture the carbon
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that we are producing, always,
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even if we reduce them, everything that we do, we produce CO2,
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are the trees.
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I put the question -- three or four weeks ago,
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we saw in the newspapers
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millions of fish that die in Norway.
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A lack of oxygen in the water.
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I put to myself the question, if for a moment,
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we will not lack oxygen for all animal species,
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ours included -- that would be very complicated for us.
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For the water system, the trees are essential.
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I'll give you a small example that you'll understand very easily.
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You happy people that have a lot of hair on your head,
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if you take a shower, it takes you
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two or three hours to dry your hair
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if you don't use a dryer machine.
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Me, one minute, it's dry. The same with the trees.
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The trees are the hair of our planet.
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When you have rain in a place that has no trees,
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in just a few minutes, the water arrives in the stream,
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brings soil, destroying our water source,
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destroying the rivers,
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and no humidity to retain.
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When you have trees, the root system holds the water.
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All the branches of the trees, the leaves that come down
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create a humid area,
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and they take months and months under the water, go to the rivers,
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and maintain our source, maintain our rivers.
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This is the most important thing,
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when we imagine that we need water for every activity in life.
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I want to show you now, to finish,
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just a few pictures that for me
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are very important in that direction.
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You remember that I told you,
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when I received the farm from my parents
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that was my paradise, that was the farm.
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Land completely destroyed, the erosion there, the land had dried.
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But you can see in this picture,
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we were starting to construct an educational center
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that became quite a large environmental center in Brazil.
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But you see a lot of small spots in this picture.
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In each point of those spots, we had planted a tree.
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There are thousands of trees.
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Now I'll show you the pictures made exactly in the same point
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two months ago.
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(Applause)
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I told you in the beginning that it was necessary
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for us to plant about 2.5 million trees
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of about 200 different species
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in order to rebuild the ecosystem.
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And I'll show you the last picture.
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We are with two million trees in the ground now.
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We are doing the sequestration
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of about 100,000 tons of carbon with these trees.
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My friends, it's very easy to do. We did it, no?
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By an accident that happened to me,
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we went back, we built an ecosystem.
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We here inside the room,
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I believe that we have the same concern,
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and the model that we created in Brazil,
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we can transplant it here.
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We can apply it everywhere around the world, no?
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And I believe that we can do it together.
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Thank you very much.
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(Applause)
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