Letting go of God | Julia Sweeney

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On September 10, the morning of my seventh birthday,
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I came downstairs to the kitchen, where my mother was washing the dishes
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and my father was reading the paper or something,
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and I sort of presented myself to them in the doorway, and they said,
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"Hey, happy birthday!" And I said, "I'm seven."
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And my father smiled and said,
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"Well, you know what that means, don't you?"
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And I said, "Yeah, that I'm going to have a party
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and a cake and get a lot of presents?"
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And my dad said, "Well, yes.
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But more importantly,
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being seven means that you've reached the age of reason,
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and you're now capable of committing any and all sins against God and man."
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(Laughter)
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Now, I had heard this phrase, "age of reason," before.
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Sister Mary Kevin had been bandying it about
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my second-grade class at school.
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But when she said it,
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the phrase seemed all caught up in the excitement of preparations
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for our first communion and our first confession,
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and everybody knew that was really all about the white dress
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and the white veil.
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And anyway, I hadn't really paid all that much attention
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to that phrase, "age of reason."
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So, I said, "Yeah, yeah, age of reason. What does that mean again?"
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And my dad said, "Well, we believe, in the Catholic Church,
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that God knows that little kids don't know the difference between right and wrong,
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but when you're seven, you're old enough to know better.
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So, you've grown up and reached the age of reason,
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and now God will start keeping notes on you,
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and begin your permanent record."
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(Laughter)
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And I said, "Oh ...
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Wait a minute.
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You mean all that time, up till today,
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all that time I was so good, God didn't notice it?"
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And my mom said, "Well, I noticed it."
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(Laughter)
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And I thought, "How could I not have known this before?
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How could it not have sunk in when they'd been telling me?
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All that being good and no real credit for it.
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And worst of all, how could I not have realized
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this very important information
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until the very day that it was basically useless to me?"
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So I said, "Well, Mom and Dad, what about Santa Claus?
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I mean, Santa Claus knows if you're naughty or nice, right?"
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And my dad said, "Yeah, but, honey,
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I think that's technically just between Thanksgiving and Christmas."
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And my mother said, "Oh, Bob, stop it. Let's just tell her. I mean, she's seven.
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Julie, there is no Santa Claus."
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(Laughter)
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Now, this was actually not that upsetting to me.
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My parents had this whole elaborate story about Santa Claus:
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how they had talked to Santa Claus himself and agreed
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that instead of Santa delivering our presents
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over the night of Christmas Eve,
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like he did for every other family who got to open their surprises
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first thing Christmas morning,
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our family would give Santa more time.
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Santa would come to our house while we were at nine o'clock high mass
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on Christmas morning, but only if all of us kids did not make a fuss.
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Which made me very suspicious.
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It was pretty obvious that it was really our parents giving us the presents.
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I mean, my dad had a very distinctive wrapping style,
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and my mother's handwriting was so close to Santa's.
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(Laughter)
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Plus, why would Santa save time by having to loop back
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to our house after he'd gone to everybody else's?
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There was only one obvious conclusion to reach from this mountain of evidence:
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our family was too strange and weird for even Santa Claus to come visit,
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and my poor parents were trying to protect us from the embarrassment,
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this humiliation of rejection by Santa, who was jolly --
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but let's face it, he was also very judgmental.
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So to find out that there was no Santa Claus at all
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was actually sort of a relief.
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I left the kitchen not really in shock about Santa,
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but rather, I was just dumbfounded
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about how I could have missed this whole age of reason thing.
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It was too late for me, but maybe I could help someone else,
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someone who could use the information.
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They had to fit two criteria:
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they had to be old enough to be able to understand
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the whole concept of the age of reason, and not yet seven.
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The answer was clear: my brother Bill. He was six.
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Well, I finally found Bill
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about a block away from our house at this public school playground.
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It was a Saturday, and he was all by himself,
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just kicking a ball against the side of a wall.
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I ran up to him and said, "Bill!
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I just realized that the age of reason starts when you turn seven,
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and then you're capable of committing any and all sins
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against God and man."
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And Bill said, "So?"
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And I said, "So, you're six.
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You have a whole year to do anything you want to and God won't notice it."
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And he said, "So?"
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And I said, "So? So everything!"
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And I turned to run. I was so angry with him.
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But when I got to the top of the steps,
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I turned around dramatically and said,
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"Oh, by the way, Bill -- there is no Santa Claus."
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(Laughter)
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Now, I didn't know it at the time,
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but I really wasn't turning seven on September 10th.
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For my 13th birthday,
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I planned a slumber party with all of my girlfriends,
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but a couple of weeks beforehand my mother took me aside and said,
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"I need to speak to you privately.
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September 10th is not your birthday. It's October 10th."
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And I said, "What?"
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(Laughter)
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And she said ...
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(Laughter)
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"Listen. The cut-off date to start kindergarten was September 15th."
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(Laughter)
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"So I told them that your birthday was September 10th,
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and then I wasn't sure
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that you weren't just going to go blab it all over the place,
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so I started to tell you your birthday was September 10th.
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But, Julie, you were so ready to start school, honey. You were so ready."
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I thought about it, and when I was four,
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I was already the oldest of four children,
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and my mother even had another child to come,
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so what I think she -- understandably -- really meant
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was that she was so ready, she was so ready.
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Then she said, "Don't worry, Julie.
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Every year on October 10th,
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when it was your birthday but you didn't realize it,
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I made sure that you ate a piece of cake that day."
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(Laughter)
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Which was comforting, but troubling.
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My mother had been celebrating my birthday with me, without me.
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(Laughter)
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What was so upsetting about this new piece of information
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was not that I had to change the date of my slumber party
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with all of my girlfriends.
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What was most upsetting was that this meant I was not a Virgo.
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I had a huge Virgo poster in my bedroom.
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And I read my horoscope every single day,
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and it was so totally me.
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(Laughter)
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And this meant that I was a Libra?
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So, I took the bus downtown to get the new Libra poster.
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The Virgo poster is a picture of a beautiful woman with long hair,
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sort of lounging by some water,
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but the Libra poster is just a huge scale.
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This was around the time that I started filling out physically,
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and I was filling out a lot more than a lot of the other girls,
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and frankly, the whole idea that my astrological sign was a scale
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just seemed ominous and depressing.
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(Laughter)
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But I got the new Libra poster,
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and I started to read my new Libra horoscope,
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and I was astonished to find that it was also totally me.
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(Laughter)
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It wasn't until years later, looking back
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on this whole age-of-reason, change-of-birthday thing,
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that it dawned on me:
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I wasn't turning seven when I thought I turned seven.
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I had a whole other month
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to do anything I wanted to before God started keeping tabs on me.
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Oh, life can be so cruel.
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One day, two Mormon missionaries came to my door.
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Now, I just live off a main thoroughfare in Los Angeles,
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and my block is -- well, it's a natural beginning
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for people who are peddling things door to door.
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Sometimes I get little old ladies from the Seventh Day Adventist Church
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showing me these cartoon pictures of heaven.
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And sometimes I get teenagers who promise me
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that they won't join a gang and just start robbing people,
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if I only buy some magazine subscriptions from them.
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So normally, I just ignore the doorbell, but on this day, I answered.
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And there stood two boys, each about 19, in white, starched short-sleeved shirts,
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and they had little name tags
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that identified them as official representatives
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of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,
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and they said they had a message for me, from God.
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I said, "A message for me? From God?" And they said, "Yes."
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Now, I was raised in the Pacific Northwest,
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around a lot of Church of Latter-day Saints people and, you know,
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I've worked with them and even dated them,
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but I never really knew the doctrine,
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or what they said to people when they were out on a mission,
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and I guess I was sort of curious, so I said, "Well, please, come in."
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And they looked really happy,
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because I don't think this happens to them all that often.
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(Laughter)
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And I sat them down, and I got them glasses of water --
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Ok, I got it, I got it.
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I got them glasses of water.
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Don't touch my hair, that's the thing.
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(Laughter)
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You can't put a video of myself in front of me
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and expect me not to fix my hair.
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Ok.
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(Laughter)
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So I sat them down and I got them glasses of water,
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and after niceties, they said,
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"Do you believe that God loves you with all his heart?"
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And I thought, "Well, of course I believe in God,
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but you know, I don't like that word 'heart,'
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because it anthropomorphizes God,
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and I don't like the word, 'his,' either, because that sexualizes God."
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But I didn't want to argue semantics with these boys,
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so after a very long, uncomfortable pause, I said,
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"Yes, yes, I do. I feel very loved."
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And they looked at each other and smiled,
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like that was the right answer.
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And then they said, "Do you believe
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that we're all brothers and sisters on this planet?"
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And I said, "Yes, I do."
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And I was so relieved that it was a question I could answer so quickly.
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And they said, "Well, then we have a story to tell you."
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And they told me this story all about this guy named Lehi,
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who lived in Jerusalem in 600 BC.
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Now, apparently in Jerusalem in 600 BC, everyone was completely bad and evil.
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Every single one of them: man, woman, child, infant, fetus.
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And God came to Lehi and said to him,
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"Put your family on a boat and I will lead you out of here."
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And God did lead them.
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He led them to America.
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I said, "America?
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(Laughter)
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From Jerusalem to America by boat in 600 BC?"
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And they said, "Yes."
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(Laughter)
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Then they told me how Lehi and his descendants
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reproduced and reproduced, and over the course of 600 years,
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there were two great races of them, the Nephites and the Lamanites,
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and the Nephites were totally good -- each and every one of them --
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and the Lamanites were totally bad and evil --
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every single one of them just bad to the bone.
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Then, after Jesus died on the cross for our sins,
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on his way up to heaven,
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he stopped by America and visited the Nephites.
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(Laughter)
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And he told them that if they all remained totally, totally good --
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each and every one of them --
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they would win the war against the evil Lamanites.
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But apparently somebody blew it,
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because the Lamanites were able to kill all the Nephites.
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All but one guy, this guy named Mormon,
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who managed to survive by hiding in the woods.
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And he made sure this whole story was written down
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in reformed Egyptian hieroglyphics chiseled onto gold plates,
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which he then buried near Palmyra, New York.
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(Laughter)
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Well, I was just on the edge of my seat.
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(Laughter)
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I said, "What happened to the Lamanites?"
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And they said, "Well, they became our Native Americans, here in the U.S."
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And I said, "So, you believe the Native Americans are descended
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from a people who were totally evil?"
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And they said, "Yes."
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Then they told me how this guy named Joseph Smith
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found those buried gold plates right in his backyard,
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and he also found this magic stone back there that he put into his hat
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and then buried his face into,
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and this allowed him to translate the gold plates
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from the reformed Egyptian into English.
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Well, at this point I just wanted to give these two boys some advice
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about their pitch.
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(Laughter)
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I wanted to say --
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(Applause)
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"Ok, don't start with this story."
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(Laughter)
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I mean, even the Scientologists
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know to start with a personality test before they start --
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(Applause)
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telling people all about Xenu, the evil intergalactic overlord.
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Then, they said, "Do you believe that God speaks to us
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through his righteous prophets?"
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And I said, "No, I don't,"
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because I was sort of upset about this Lamanite story
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and this crazy gold plate story,
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but the truth was, I hadn't really thought this through,
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so I backpedaled a little and I said,
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"Well, what exactly do you mean by 'righteous'?
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And what do you mean by prophets? Like, could the prophets be women?"
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And they said, "No." And I said, "Why?"
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And they said, "Well, it's because God gave women a gift
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that is so spectacular,
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it is so wonderful, that the only gift he had left over to give men
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was the gift of prophecy."
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What is this wonderful gift God gave women, I wondered?
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Maybe their greater ability to cooperate and adapt?
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(Laughter)
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Women's longer lifespan?
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The fact that women tend to be much less violent than men?
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But no -- it wasn't any of these gifts.
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They said, "Well, it's her ability to bear children."
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I said, "Oh, come on.
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I mean, even if women tried to have a baby every single year
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from the time they were 15 to the time they were 45,
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assuming they didn't die from exhaustion,
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it still seems like some women would have some time left over
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to hear the word of God."
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And they said, "No."
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(Laughter)
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Well, then they didn't look so fresh-faced and cute to me any more,
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but they had more to say.
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They said, "Well, we also believe that if you're a Mormon,
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and if you're in good standing with the church,
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when you die, you get to go to heaven
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and be with your family for all eternity."
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And I said, "Oh, dear.
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(Laughter)
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That wouldn't be such a good incentive for me."
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(Laughter)
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And they said, "Oh.
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(Laughter)
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Hey! Well, we also believe that when you go to heaven,
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you get your body restored to you in its best original state.
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Like, if you'd lost a leg, well, you get it back.
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Or, if you'd gone blind, you could see."
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I said, "Oh. Now, I don't have a uterus,
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because I had cancer a few years ago.
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So does this mean that if I went to heaven,
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I would get my old uterus back?"
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And they said, "Sure."
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And I said, "I don't want it back. I'm happy without it." Gosh.
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What if you had a nose job and you liked it?
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(Laughter)
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Would God force you to get your old nose back?
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Then they gave me this Book of Mormon,
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told me to read this chapter and that chapter,
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and said they'd come back and check in on me,
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and I think I said something like, "Please don't hurry,"
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or maybe just, "Please don't," and they were gone.
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Ok, so I initially felt really superior to these boys,
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and smug in my more conventional faith.
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But then the more I thought about it, the more I had to be honest with myself.
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If someone came to my door
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and I was hearing Catholic theology and dogma for the very first time,
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and they said, "We believe that God impregnated a very young girl
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without the use of intercourse,
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and the fact that she was a virgin is maniacally important to us."
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(Laughter)
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"And she had a baby, and that's the son of God,"
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I mean, I would think that's equally ridiculous.
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I'm just so used to that story.
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(Laughter)
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So, I couldn't let myself feel condescending towards these boys.
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But the question they asked me when they first arrived
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really stuck in my head:
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Did I believe that God loved me with all his heart?
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Because I wasn't exactly sure how I felt about that question.
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Now, if they had asked me,
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"Do you feel that God loves you with all his heart?"
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Well, that would have been much different, I think I would have instantly answered,
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"Yes, yes, I feel it all the time.
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I feel God's love when I'm hurt and confused,
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and I feel consoled and cared for.
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I take shelter in God's love when I don't understand why tragedy hits,
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and I feel God's love when I look with gratitude at all the beauty I see."
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But since they asked me that question with the word "believe" in it,
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somehow it was all different,
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because I wasn't exactly sure if I believed what I so clearly felt.
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