The mad scientist of music | Mark Applebaum

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ูŠุฑุฌู‰ ุงู„ู†ู‚ุฑ ู†ู‚ุฑู‹ุง ู…ุฒุฏูˆุฌู‹ุง ููˆู‚ ุงู„ุชุฑุฌู…ุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุฌู„ูŠุฒูŠุฉ ุฃุฏู†ุงู‡ ู„ุชุดุบูŠู„ ุงู„ููŠุฏูŠูˆ.

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Translator: Joseph Geni Reviewer: Thu-Huong Ha
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ุงู„ู…ุชุฑุฌู…: Abbad Diraneyya ุงู„ู…ุฏู‚ู‘ู‚: Ayman Mahmoud
00:18
I thought if I skipped it might help my nerves,
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ุงุนุชู‚ุฏุช ุฃู†ูŠ ู„ูˆ ุชุฌุงูˆุฒุช ุงู„ู…ูˆุถูˆุน ู„ุงุฑุชุงุญุช ุฃุนุตุงุจูŠ
00:21
but I'm actually having a paradoxical reaction to that,
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ูˆู„ูƒู†ูŠ ุฃูˆุงุฌู‡ ุฑุฏูˆุฏ ุฃูุนุงู„ู ู…ุชู†ุงู‚ุถุฉ ุจุณุจุจ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุชุตุฑู
00:24
so that was a bad idea. (Laughter)
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ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ูƒุงู†ุช ุชู„ูƒ ููƒุฑุฉ ุณูŠุฆุฉ. (ุถุญูƒ)
00:26
Anyway, I was really delighted to receive the invitation
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ููŠ ูƒู„ ุงู„ุฃุญูˆุงู„ุŒ ู„ู‚ุฏ ูƒู†ุช ุณุนูŠุฏุงู‹ ุฌุฏุงู ุจุชู„ู‚ูŠ ุงู„ุฏุนูˆุฉ
00:29
to present to you some of my music and some of my work
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ู„ุฅู„ู‚ุงุก ุจุนุถ ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ุงูŠ ูˆุฃุนู…ุงู„ูŠ ุนู„ูŠูƒู…
00:33
as a composer, presumably because it appeals
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ูƒู…ุคู„ู ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ูŠุŒ ุฑุจู…ุง ุฐู„ูƒ ูŠุนุฒู‘ุฒ
00:36
to my well-known and abundant narcissism. (Laughter)
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ุดุนูˆุฑูŠ ุจุงู„ู†ุฑุฌุณูŠู‘ูŽุฉ ูƒู…ุง ู‡ูˆ ู…ุนุฑูˆููŒ ุนู†ูŠ (ุถุญูƒ)
00:40
And I'm not kidding, I just think we should just
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ูˆุฃู†ุง ู„ุง ุฃู…ุฒุญ ููŠ ุฐู„ูƒุŒ ุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ ุฃู†ู‡ ุนู„ูŠู†ุง
00:43
say that and move forward. (Laughter)
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ู‚ูˆู„ ุฐู„ูƒ ูู‚ุท ูˆุงู„ุงุณุชู…ุฑุงุฑ ุจุนุฏู‡ุง. (ุถุญูƒ)
00:46
So, but the thing is, a dilemma quickly arose,
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ู„ุฐู„ูƒุŒ ู…ูˆุถูˆุนู†ุง ุนู† ู…ุนุถู„ุฉู ุธู‡ุฑุช ุจุณุฑุนุฉ
00:49
and that is that I'm really bored with music,
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ูˆู‡ูŠ ุฃู†ู†ูŠ ุญู‚ุงู‹ ุฃุดุนุฑ ุจุงู„ู…ู„ู„ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ู‰
00:52
and I'm really bored with the role of the composer,
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ูˆุฃุดุนุฑ ุจุงู„ู…ู„ู„ ุญู‚ุงู‹ ู…ู† ุฏูˆุฑ ุงู„ู…ุคู„ู
00:55
and so I decided to put that idea, boredom,
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ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ู‚ุฑุฑุช ุฃู† ุฃุถุน ู…ุดูƒู„ุฉ ุงู„ู…ู„ู„
00:58
as the focus of my presentation to you today.
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ูƒู…ุญูˆุฑู ู„ุนุฑุถูŠ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ุณุฃู‚ุฏู…ู‡ ู„ูƒู… ุงู„ูŠูˆู….
01:01
And I'm going to share my music with you, but I hope
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ูˆุณุฃู‚ูˆู… ุจู…ุดุงุฑูƒุฉ ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ุงูŠ ู…ุนูƒู…ุŒ ู„ูƒู†ูŠ ุฃุชู…ู†ู‰
01:03
that I'm going to do so in a way that tells a story,
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ุฃู† ุฃู‚ูˆู… ุจุฐู„ูƒ ุจุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ุชุฑูˆูŠ ุญูƒุงูŠุฉ
01:05
tells a story about how I used boredom as a catalyst
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ุชุฑูˆูŠ ุญูƒุงูŠุฉู‹ ุนู† ูƒูŠููŠุฉ ุงุณุชุนู…ุงู„ูŠ ู„ู„ู…ู„ู„ ูƒู…ุญูุฒ
01:09
for creativity and invention, and how boredom
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ู„ู„ุฅุจุฏุงุน ูˆุงู„ุงุฎุชุฑุงุนุŒ ูˆูƒูŠู ุฃู† ุงู„ู…ู„ู„
01:11
actually forced me to change the fundamental question
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ููŠ ุงู„ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉ ุฃุฌุจุฑู†ูŠ ุนู„ู‰ ุชุบูŠูŠุฑ ุงู„ุณุคุงู„ ุงู„ุฃุณุงุณูŠ
01:14
that I was asking in my discipline,
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ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูƒู†ุช ุฃุณุฃู„ู‡ ููŠ ุงู†ุถุจุงุทูŠ
01:17
and how boredom also, in a sense,
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ูˆูƒูŠู ุฃู† ุงู„ู…ู„ู„ ุฃูŠุถุงู‹ุŒ ุจู…ุนู†ู‰ ุขุฎุฑ
01:19
pushed me towards taking on roles beyond the sort of
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ุฏูุนู†ูŠ ู†ุญูˆ ุฃุฎุฐ ุฃุฏูˆุงุฑู ุชุชุฌุงูˆุฒ ุงู„ุฃุฏูˆุงุฑ
01:23
most traditional, narrow definition of a composer.
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ุงู„ุถูŠู‘ูู‚ุฉ ูˆุงู„ุชู‚ู„ูŠุฏูŠู‘ูŽุฉ ุฌุฏุงู‹ ู„ุชุนุฑูŠู ุงู„ู…ุคู„ู ุงู„ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ูŠ.
01:26
What I'd like to do today is to start with an excerpt
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ู…ุง ุฃูˆุฏ ุงู„ู‚ูŠุงู… ุจู‡ ุงู„ูŠูˆู… ู‡ูˆ ุฃู† ู†ุจุฏุฃ ู…ุน ู…ู‚ุชุทูู
01:28
of a piece of music at the piano.
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ู…ู† ู…ู‚ุทูˆุนุฉ ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ูŠุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุจูŠุงู†ูˆ.
01:31
(Music)
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(ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ู‰)
01:40
Okay, I wrote that. (Laughter)
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ุญุณู†ุงู‹ุŒ ุฃู†ุง ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูƒุชุจุชู‡ุง. (ุถุญูƒ)
01:44
No, it's not โ€” (Applause) Oh, why thank you.
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ู„ุง ู„ู… ุฃู‚ู… ุจุฐู„ูƒ - (ุชุตููŠู‚) ุฃูˆู‡ ุŒ ุดูƒุฑุงู‹ ู„ูƒู….
01:46
No, no, I didn't write that.
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ู„ุงุŒ ู„ุงุŒ ู„ู… ุฃู‚ู… ุจูƒุชุงุจุชู‡ุง.
01:47
In fact, that was a piece by Beethoven,
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ุจุงู„ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉุŒ ุชู„ูƒ ูƒุงู†ุช ู…ู‚ุทูˆุนุฉู‹ ู„ุจุชู‡ูˆูู†
01:49
and so I was not functioning as a composer.
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ูˆู„ู… ุฃูƒู† ุฃู‚ุฏู…ู‡ุง ูƒู…ุคู„ู ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ูŠ
01:52
Just now I was functioning in the role of the interpreter,
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ุฅู†ู…ุง ูู‚ุท ูƒู†ุช ุฃู‚ุฏู…ู‡ุง ูƒุฏูˆุฑ ุงู„ู…ุชุฑุฌู…
01:55
and there I am, interpreter.
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ูˆู‡ุง ุฃู†ุง ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ุชุฑุฌู….
01:57
So, an interpreter of what? Of a piece of music, right?
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ูƒู…ุชุฑุฌู…ู ู„ุฃูŠ ุดูŠุกุŸ ู„ู…ู‚ุทูˆุนุฉ ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ูŠุฉุŒ ุญุณู†ุงู‹ุŸ
02:00
But we can ask the question, "But is it music?"
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ูˆู„ูƒู† ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ุง ุฃู† ู†ุณุฃู„ ุงู„ุณุคุงู„ "ู‡ู„ ู‡ูŠ ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ู‰ุŸ"
02:04
And I say this rhetorically, because of course
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ูˆุฃู‚ูˆู„ ุฐู„ูƒ ุจุดูƒู„ ู…ุฌุงุฒูŠุŒ ู„ุฃู†ู‡ ุจุงู„ุทุจุน
02:06
by just about any standard we would have to concede
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ุชู‚ุฑูŠุจุงู‹ ุจุฃูŠ ู…ุนูŠุงุฑู ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ุนุงูŠูŠุฑ ุณูŠุชูˆุฌู‘ูŽุจ ุนู„ูŠู†ุง ุงู„ุงุนุชุฑุงู
02:09
that this is, of course, a piece of music,
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ุจุฃู†ู‡ุง ุจุงู„ุทุจุน ู…ู‚ุทูˆุนุฉ ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ูŠุฉ
02:11
but I put this here now because,
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ู„ู‚ุฏ ูˆุถุนุช ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู…ู‚ุทูˆุนุฉ ู‡ู†ุง ู„ุฃู†ูŠ
02:13
just to set it in your brains for the moment,
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ุฃุฑูŠุฏู‡ุง ุฃู† ุชุซุจูุชูŽ ููŠ ุนู‚ูˆู„ูƒู… ู„ู„ุญุธุฉ
02:15
because we're going to return to this question.
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ู„ุฃู†ู‘ูŽู†ุง ุณู†ุนูˆุฏ ู„ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุณุคุงู„
02:17
It's going to be a kind of a refrain
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ุงู„ุฐูŠ ุณูŠูƒูˆู† ูƒุฏู„ูŠู„ู ู„ู†ุง
02:19
as we go through the presentation.
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ูˆู†ุญู† ู†ู…ุถูŠ ุจุงู„ู…ุญุงุถุฑุฉ.
02:21
So here we have this piece of music by Beethoven,
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ู„ุฏูŠู†ุง ู‡ู†ุง ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู…ู‚ุทูˆุนุฉ ุงู„ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ูŠุฉ ู„ุจุชู‡ูˆูู†
02:23
and my problem with it is, it's boring.
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ูˆู…ุดูƒู„ุชูŠ ููŠู‡ุง ุฃู†ู‘ูŽู‡ุง ู…ู…ู„ุฉ.
02:26
I mean, you โ€” I'm just like, a hush, huh -- It's like -- (Laughter)
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ุฃู‚ุตุฏ ุจุฃู†ูƒู… -- ุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ ุฃู†ู‡ ุนู„ูŠู‘ูŽ ุฃู† ุฃุตู…ุช! --(ุถุญูƒ)
02:33
It's Beethoven, how can you say that?
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ุฅู†ู‡ุง ู„ุจุชู‡ูˆูู†ุŒ ูƒูŠู ุชู‚ูˆู„ ุฃู†ู‡ุง ู…ู…ู„ุฉุŸ
02:35
No, well, I don't know, it's very familiar to me.
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ู„ุงุŒ ุจุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุน ู„ุง ุฃุนู„ู… ูˆู„ูƒู†ู‡ุง ู…ุฃู„ูˆูุฉ ุฌุฏุงู‹ ุจุงู„ู†ุณุจุฉ ู„ูŠ.
02:36
I had to practice it as a kid, and I'm really sick of it. So -- (Laughter)
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ุชูˆุฌู‘ูŽุจ ุนู„ูŠู‘ูŽ ุงู„ุชุฏุฑุจ ุนู„ูŠู‡ุง ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ูƒู†ุช ุทูู„ุงู‹ ูˆู„ู‚ุฏ ุณุฆู…ุชู ู…ู†ู‡ุง ุญู‚ุงู‹. ู„ุฐู„ูƒ.. (ุถุญูƒ)
02:39
I would, so what I might like to try to do is to change it,
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ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ู…ุง ู‚ุฏ ุฃุฑุบุจ ุจุงู„ู‚ูŠุงู… ุจู‡ ู‡ูˆ ู…ุญุงูˆู„ุฉ ุชุบูŠูŠุฑู‡ุง
02:42
to transform it in some ways, to personalize it,
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ู„ุชุญูˆูŠู„ู‡ุง ุจุทุฑู‚ ู…ุฎุชู„ูุฉุŒ ู„ุฅุถูุงุก ุงู„ุทุงุจุน ุงู„ุดุฎุตูŠ ุนู„ูŠู‡ุง.
02:45
so I might take the opening, like this idea --
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ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ู‚ุฏ ุขุฎุฐ ุงู„ุงูุชุชุงุญูŠุฉุŒ ู…ุซู„ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ููƒุฑุฉ --
02:47
(Music)
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(ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ู‰)
02:49
and then I might substitute -- (Music)
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ูˆู„ุงุญู‚ุงู‹ ู‚ุฏ ุฃู‚ูˆู… ุจุงุณุชุจุฏุงู„ู‡ุง -- (ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ู‰)
02:54
and then I might improvise on that melody
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ุซู… ู‚ุฏ ุฃู‚ูˆู… ุจุงู„ุงุฑุชุฌุงู„ ุนู„ู‰ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู„ุญู†
02:56
that goes forward from there -- (Music)
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ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูŠุณุชูƒู…ู„ ู‚ูุฏู…ุงู‹ ู…ู† ู‡ู†ุง -- (ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ู‰)
02:59
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(ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ู‰)
03:26
So that might be the kind of thing -- Why thank you.
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ู‡ุฐุง ู‚ุฏ ูŠูƒูˆู† ู…ุซู„ ........ ุดูƒุฑุงู‹
03:29
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(ุชุตููŠู‚)
03:32
That would be the kind of thing that I would do,
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ูˆู…ู† ุดุฃู† ุฐู„ูƒ ุฃู† ูŠูƒูˆู† ู…ู…ุงุซู„ุงู‹ ู„ู„ุดูŠุก ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูƒู†ุช ุณุฃูุนู„ู‡
03:34
and it's not necessarily better than the Beethoven.
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ูˆู„ูŠุณ ู…ู† ุงู„ุถุฑูˆุฑูŠ ุฃู† ุชูƒูˆู† ุฃูุถู„ ู…ู† ุนู…ู„ ุจุชู‡ูˆูู†
03:36
In fact, I think it's not better than it. The thing is -- (Laughter) --
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ููŠ ุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุนุŒ ุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ ุฃู†ู‡ุง ู„ูŠุณุช ุฃูุถู„ ู…ู† ู…ู‚ุทูˆุนุฉ ุจุชู‡ูˆูู†. ู„ูƒู† ุงู„ุฃู…ุฑ ู‡ูˆ ุฃู†ู‘ูŽ -- (ุถุญูƒ)--
03:40
it's more interesting to me. It's less boring for me.
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ุฃู†ู‘ูŽู‡ุง ุฃูƒุซุฑ ู…ุชุนุฉู‹ ุจุงู„ู†ุณุจุฉ ู„ูŠ. ูˆู„ุฃู†ู‡ุง ุฃู‚ู„ ุถุฌุฑุงู‹ ุจุงู„ู†ุณุจุฉ ู„ูŠ.
03:45
I'm really leaning into me, because I, because I have
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ุฃู†ุง ุฃู…ูŠู„ ุฅู„ูŠู‡ุงุŒ ู„ุฃู†ู†ูŠุŒ ู„ุฃู†ู†ูŠ ูŠุฌุจ
03:49
to think about what decisions I'm going to make on the fly
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ุฃู† ุฃููƒู‘ุฑ ููŠ ุงู„ู‚ุฑุฑุงุช ุงู„ุชูŠ ุฃุชุฎุฐู‡ุง ูˆุจุณุฑุนุฉ ุจุฏูŠู‡ูŠุฉ
03:52
as that Beethoven text is running in time through my head
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ููŠ ู†ูุณ ุงู„ูˆู‚ุช ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูŠู…ุฑ ู†ุต ุจุชู‡ูˆูู† ููŠ ุฑุฃุณูŠ
03:55
and I'm trying to figure out what kinds of transformations
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ูˆุฃู†ุง ุฃุญุงูˆู„ ู…ุนุฑูุฉ ู…ุงู‡ูŠุฉ ุงู„ุชุนุฏูŠู„ุงุช
03:58
I'm going to make to it.
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ุงู„ุชูŠ ุณุฃุฌุฑูŠู‡ุง
03:59
So this is an engaging enterprise for me, and
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ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ูุฅู†ู‡ ู…ุดุฑูˆุนูŒ ู…ู…ุชุนูŒ ุจุงู„ู†ุณุจุฉ ู„ูŠ
04:02
I've really leaned into that first person pronoun thing there,
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ุฃู†ุง ุฃู…ูŠู„ ุจุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุน ู„ุฏูˆุฑ ุงู„ุดุฎุต ุงู„ุฃูˆู„ ู‡ู†ุงูƒ (ุฏูˆุฑ ุงู„ู…ุชุฑุฌู…)
04:06
and now my face appears twice, so I think we can agree
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ุจู…ุง ุฃู†ู‘ูŽ ูˆุฌู‡ูŠ ุฃุตุจุญ ูŠุธู‡ุฑ ู…ุฑุชูŠู†ุŒ ุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ ุฃู†ู‡ ุจุงู…ูƒุงู†ู†ุง ุฃู† ู†ุชู‘ูู‚
04:09
that this is a fundamentally solipsistic enterprise. (Laughter)
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ุนู„ู‰ ุฃู†ู‡ ุจุงู„ุฏุฑุฌุฉ ุงู„ุฃูˆู„ู‰ ู…ุดุฑูˆุนูŒ ู„ู†ุธุฑูŠุฉ ุงู„ุฅูŠู…ุงู† ุจุงู„ุฐุงุช (ู†ุธุฑูŠุฉ ูู„ุณููŠุฉ) (ุถุญูƒ)
04:12
But it's an engaging one, and it's interesting to me
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ูˆู„ูƒู†ู‡ุง ุฌุฐู‘ูŽุงุจุฉ ูˆู…ู…ุชุนุฉ ุจุงู„ู†ุณุจุฉ ู„ูŠ
04:15
for a while, but then I get bored with it, and by it,
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ู„ูุชุฑุฉู ู…ู† ุงู„ุฒู…ู† ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฃู‚ู„ุŒ ู„ูƒู† ุจุนุฏู‡ุง ุณุฃุถุฌุฑ ู…ู†ู‡ุงุŒ ูˆู…ุง ุฃู‚ุตุฏู‡ ุจู‡ุฐุง
04:17
I actually mean, the piano, because it becomes,
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ู…ุง ุฃู‚ุตุฏู‡ ุจู‡ ุจุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุน ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ุจูŠุงู†ูˆุŒ ู„ุฃู†ู‡ ูŠุตุจุญ
04:20
it's this familiar instrument, it's timbral range is actually
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ู„ุฃู†ู‡ ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ุขู„ุฉ ุงู„ุชู‚ู„ูŠุฏูŠุฉุŒ ู„ุฃู† ุทุจูŠุนุชู‡ ุงู„ุตูˆุชูŠุฉ ุจุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุน
04:23
pretty compressed, at least when you play on the keyboard,
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ู…ุฑูƒู‘ูŽุฒุฉ ุฌุฏุงู‹ุŒ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฃู‚ู„ ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ุชุนุฒู ุนู„ู‰ ุฃุฒุฑุงุฑู‡ุŒ
04:26
and if you're not doing things like listening to it
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ูˆุฅุฐุง ู„ู… ุชู‚ู… ุจุดูŠุกู ูƒุงู„ุงุณุชู…ุงุน ุฅู„ูŠู‡
04:28
after you've lit it on fire or something like that, you know.
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ุจุนุฏ ุฅุถุฑุงู… ุงู„ู†ูŠุฑุงู† ุจู‡ุŒ ุฃูˆ ุฃุญุฏ ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ุฃุดูŠุงุก ุงู„ู…ุซูŠุฑุฉ
04:31
It gets a little bit boring, and so pretty soon
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ุณูŠุตุจุญ ู…ู…ู„ุงู‹ ุฌุฏุงู‹ุŒ ูˆู„ุฐู„ูƒ ุณูุฑุนูŽุงู†
04:33
I go through other instruments, they become familiar,
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ู…ุง ุฃู†ุตุฑู ุฅู„ู‰ ุขู„ุงุช ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ูŠุฉ ุฃุฎุฑู‰ุŒ ูˆุชุตุจุญ ู‡ูŠ ุงู„ุฃุฎุฑู‰ ู‚ุฏูŠู…ุฉ ูˆู…ู…ู„ุฉ
04:35
and eventually I find myself designing and constructing
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ูˆููŠ ุขุฎุฑ ุงู„ุฃู…ุฑ ูŠู†ุชู‡ูŠ ุจูŠ ุงู„ู…ุทุงู ุฃุตู…ู‘ูู… ูˆุฃุตู†ุน
04:38
my own instrument, and I brought one with me today,
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ุขู„ุงุชูŠ ุงู„ุฎุงุตู‘ูŽุฉุŒ ูˆู‚ุฏ ุฌู„ุจุช ุฅุญุฏู‰ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุขู„ุงุช ู…ุนูŠ ุงู„ูŠูˆู…
04:42
and I thought I would play a little bit on it for you
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ูˆููƒู‘ูŽุฑุชู ุจุฃู† ุฃุนุฒู ุงู„ู‚ู„ูŠู„ ุนู„ูŠู‡ุง ู„ูƒู…
04:45
so you can hear what it sounds like.
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ู„ูƒูŠ ุชุณู…ุนูˆุง ูƒูŠู ูŠุจุฏูˆ ุตูˆุชู‡ุง
04:47
(Music)
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04:59
You gotta have doorstops, that's important. (Laughter)
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ูŠุฌุจ ุฃู† ุชูƒูˆู† ู„ุฏูŠูƒู… ุฃู‚ูุงู„ูŒ ู„ุฃุจูˆุงุจูƒู…ุŒ ุฐู„ูƒ ุถุฑูˆุฑูŠู‘ (ุถุญูƒ)
05:04
I've got combs. They're the only combs that I own. (Music)
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ู„ุฏูŠู‘ูŽ ู‡ู†ุง ุจุนุถ ุงู„ุฃู…ุดุงุทุŒ ู‡ุฐู‡ ู‡ูŠ ุงู„ุฃู…ุดุงุท ุงู„ูˆุญูŠุฏุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุฃู…ุชู„ูƒู‡ุง (ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ู‰)
05:07
They're all mounted on my instruments. (Laughter)
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ูˆู‡ูŠ ูƒู„ู‘ูู‡ุง ู…ุซุจู‘ูŽุชุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ุขู„ุงุชูŠ ุงู„ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ูŠุฉ (ุถุญูƒ)
05:11
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(ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ู‰)
05:20
I can actually do all sorts of things. I can play
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ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ูŠ ุจุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุน ุนู…ู„ ูƒู„ ู…ุง ูŠู…ูƒู†ูƒู… ุชุฎูŠู‘ูู„ู‡. ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ูŠ ุฃู† ุฃุนุฒู
05:22
with a violin bow. I don't have to use the chopsticks.
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ุจุนูˆุฏ ุงู„ูƒู…ุงู†. ู„ูŠุณ ุนู„ูŠู‘ูŽ ุฃู† ุฃุณุชุนู…ู„ ุงู„ุนูŠุฏุงู† ุงู„ุตูŠู†ูŠู‘ูŽุฉ
05:25
So we have this sound. (Music)
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ุฅุฐุงู‹.. ู†ุญุตู„ ุนู„ู‰ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุตูˆุช (ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ู‰)
05:33
And with a bank of live electronics,
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ูˆุจูˆุฌูˆุฏ ู…ุณุชูˆุฏุนู ู…ู† ุงู„ุฅู„ูƒุชุฑูˆู†ูŠุงุช
05:35
I can change the sounds radically. (Music)
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ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ูŠ ุชุบูŠูŠุฑ ุงู„ุฃุตูˆุงุช ุชู…ุงู…ุงู‹ (ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ู‰)
05:39
(Music)
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(ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ู‰)
05:48
Like that, and like this. (Music)
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ู‡ูƒุฐุงุŒ ูˆู‡ูƒุฐุง (ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ู‰)
05:54
And so forth.
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ูˆู‡ู„ู…ู‘ูŽ ุฌุฑุงู‹.
05:56
So this gives you a little bit of an idea of the sound world
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ุฅุฐุงู‹ุŒ ู‡ุฐุง ูŠุนุทูŠูƒู… ููƒุฑุฉู‹ ุนู†
05:58
of this instrument, which I think is quite interesting
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ุนุงู„ู… ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุขู„ุฉ ุงู„ุตูˆุชูŠุŒ ูˆู‡ูˆ ุฃู…ุฑ ุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ ุฃู†ู‡ ู…ุซูŠุฑ ุฌุฏุงู‹
06:01
and it puts me in the role of the inventor, and the nice thing about โ€”
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ูˆู‡ูˆ ูŠุฌุนู„ู†ูŠ ู…ุฎุชุฑุนุงู‹ุŒ ูˆุฃู…ุง ุงู„ุดูŠุก ุงู„ุฌู…ูŠู„ ุจุฎุตูˆุต
06:05
This instrument is called the Mouseketeer ... (Laughter)
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ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุขู„ุฉุŒ ุฃู†ู‡ุง ุชุฏุนู‰ "ู…ุงูˆุณูƒูŠุชูŠุฑ" (ู†ุงุฏูŠ ู…ูŠูƒูŠ ู…ุงูˆุณ) (ุถุญูƒ)
06:08
and the cool thing about it is
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ูˆุฃู…ุง ุงู„ุดูŠุก ุงู„ุฑุงุฆุน ุจุฎุตูˆุตู‡ุง
06:10
I'm the world's greatest Mouseketeer player. (Laughter)
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ูู‡ูˆ ุฃู†ู†ูŠ ุฃุนุธู… ู…ู† ูŠุนุฒู ุนู„ูŠู‡ุง ููŠ ุงู„ุนุงู„ู… (ุถุญูƒ)
06:14
Okay? (Applause)
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ุญุณู†ุงู‹ุŸ (ุชุตููŠู‚)
06:15
So in that regard, this is one of the things,
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ุจู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุฎุตูˆุตุŒ ูู‡ุฐุง ุฃุญุฏ ุงู„ุฃุดูŠุงุก
06:19
this is one of the privileges of being,
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ุฃุญุฏ ููˆุงุฆุฏ ุฃู† ุชูƒูˆู†
06:20
and here's another role, the inventor, and by the way,
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ู…ุฎุชุฑุนุงู‹ุŒ ูˆู‡ู†ุง ู„ุฏูŠู†ุง ุฏูˆุฑูŒ ุขุฎุฑุŒ ูˆุจุงู„ู…ู†ุงุณุจุฉ
06:23
when I told you that I'm the world's greatest,
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ูู‚ุฏ ู‚ูŠู„ ู„ูŠ ุฃู†ู‘ูŠ ุฃุนุธู… ู…ุฎุชุฑุนู ููŠ ุงู„ุนุงู„ู…ุŒ
06:26
if you're keeping score, we've had narcissism and solipsism
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ูˆุฅุฐุง ู…ุง ูƒู†ุชู… ู„ุง ุฒู„ุชู… ุชุนุฏูˆู† ุงู„ู†ู‚ุงุทุŒ ุณูŠูƒูˆู† ู„ุฏูŠู‘ูŽ ุงู„ุขู† ุงู„ู…ุฒูŠุฏ ู…ู† ุงู„ู†ุฑุฌุณูŠุฉ ูˆุงู„ุบุฑูˆุฑ
06:30
and now a healthy dose of egocentricism.
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ูˆุงู„ุขู† ุฌุฑุนุฉูŒ ุฌูŠุฏุฉ ู…ู† ุงู„ุชู…ุญูˆุฑ ุญูˆู„ ุงู„ุฐุงุช.
06:32
I know some of you are just, you know, bingo! Or, I don't know. (Laughter)
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ุฃู†ุง ุฃุนู„ู… ุฃู†ู‘ูŽ ุจุนุถูƒู… ูŠููƒู‘ูุฑูˆู† ูู‚ุท ููŠ ู‚ูˆู„.. ุฃูˆู‡ุŒ ุจู†ุบูˆ! ุฃูˆ.. ู„ุง ุฃุฏุฑูŠ (ุถุญูƒ)
06:35
Anyway, so this is also a really enjoyable role.
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ุฃูŠุงู‹ ูŠูƒู†ุŒ ูุฅู†ู‘ูŽ ู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ุฃูŠุถุงู‹ ุฏูˆุฑ ู…ู…ุชุน ุญู‚ุงู‹.
06:41
I should concede also that I'm the world's worst Mouseketeer player,
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ูŠุฌุจ ุฃู† ุฃุนุชุฑู ุฃูŠุถุงู‹ ุจุฃู†ู†ูŠ ุฃุณูˆุฃ ู…ู† ูŠุนุฒู ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ู…ุงูˆุณูƒูŠุชูŠุฑ ููŠ ุงู„ุนุงู„ู…ุŒ
06:43
and it was this distinction that I was most worried about
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ูˆู‡ูˆ ุฃุญุฏ ุฃูƒุซุฑ ุงู„ุฃุดูŠุงุก ุงู„ุชูŠ ุฃู‚ู„ู‚ุชู†ูŠ
06:46
when I was on that prior side of the tenure divide.
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ู‚ุจู„ ุฃู† ุฃุตุจุญ ู…ุฎุชุฑุนุงู‹.
06:49
I'm glad I'm past that. We're not going to go into that.
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ุฃู†ุง ุณุนูŠุฏูŒ ุจุฃู†ูŠ ุชุฌุงูˆุฒุช ุฐู„ูƒุŒ ู„ูƒู†ู†ุง ู„ู† ู†ู†ุงู‚ุดู‡ ุนู„ู‰ ูƒู„ู‘ู.
06:51
I'm crying on the inside. There are still scars.
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ูุฃู†ุง ุฃุจูƒูŠ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฏุงุฎู„ุŒ ู„ุง ุฒุงู„ุช ู„ุฏูŠู‘ูŽ ุจุนุถ ุงู„ุฌุฑูˆุญ ู…ู†ู‡.
06:54
Anyway, but I guess my point is that all of these enterprises
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ุฃูŠุงู‹ ูŠูƒู†ุŒ ุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ ุฃู† ู†ู‚ุทุชูŠ ุชูƒู…ู† ููŠ ุฃู†ู‘ูŽ ูƒู„ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู…ุดุงุฑูŠุน
06:58
are engaging to me in their multiplicity, but as I've presented them
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ุชุฃุณุฑู†ูŠ ุจูƒุซุฑุชู‡ุง ูˆุชู†ูˆู‘ุนู‡ุงุŒ ู„ูƒู† ุญุชู‰ ุงู„ูˆู‚ุช ุงู„ุฐูŠ ุฃู‚ุฏู‘ู…ู‡ุง ู„ูƒู… ููŠู‡ ุงู„ุขู†
07:02
to you today, they're actually solitary enterprises,
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ู„ุง ุฒุงู„ุช ุจุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุน ู…ุดุงุฑูŠุน ุดุฎุตูŠุฉุŒ
07:05
and so pretty soon I want to commune with other people, and so
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ูˆู„ุฐู„ูƒ ุฃู†ูˆูŠ ู‚ุฑูŠุจุงู‹ ุฌุฏุงู‹ ุงู„ุชูˆุงุตู„ ู…ุน ุฃุดุฎุงุตู ุขุฎุฑูŠู†ุŒ ุซู…ู‘ูŽ
07:08
I'm delighted that in fact I get to compose works for them.
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ุขู…ู„ ุฃู†ู†ูŠ ููŠ ุงู„ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉ ุณุฃุคู„ู ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ู‰ ู„ู‡ู… ู„ูŠุนุฒููˆู‡ุง ุนู„ู‰ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุขู„ุงุช.
07:11
I get to write, sometimes for soloists and I get to work with one person,
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ูุฃู†ุง ุฃูƒุชุจ ุฃุญูŠุงู†ุงู‹ ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ู‰ ูุฑุฏูŠุฉุŒ ูˆู‚ุฏ ุฃุนุฒู ู…ุน ุดุฎุตู ูˆุงุญุฏุŒ
07:14
sometimes full orchestras, and I work with a lot of people,
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ูˆู‚ุฏ ุฃุนู…ู„ ุฃุญูŠุงู†ุงู‹ ู…ุน ุฃูˆุฑูƒุณุชุฑุง ุจุฃูƒู…ู„ู‡ุงุŒ ูุฃู†ุง ุฃุนู…ู„ ู…ุน ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ู†ุงุณุŒ
07:17
and this is probably the capacity, the role creatively
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ูˆู‚ุฏ ุชูƒู…ู† ู‡ู†ุง ุงู„ุฅู…ูƒุงู†ุงุชุŒ ู‚ุฏ ูŠูƒู…ู† ุงู„ุฏูˆุฑ ุงู„ุฅุจุฏุงุนูŠ
07:21
for which I'm probably best known professionally.
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ุงู„ุฐูŠ ู„ุนู„ู‘ูŽู‡ ุฃูƒุซุฑ ู…ุง ุฃุดุชู‡ุฑ ุจู‡ ุดุฎุตูŠุงู‹.
07:24
Now, some of my scores as a composer look like this,
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ุญุณู†ุงู‹ุŒ ุจุนุถ ู…ู‚ุทูˆุนุงุชูŠ ูƒู…ุคู„ู ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ูŠู‘ ุชุจุฏูˆ ู‡ูƒุฐุงุŒ
07:27
and others look like this,
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ูˆุจุนุถู‡ุง ุงู„ุฃุฎุฑู‰ ุชุจุฏูˆ ู‡ูƒุฐุงุŒ
07:29
and some look like this,
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ูˆุฃุญูŠุงู†ุงู‹ ู‡ูƒุฐุงุŒ
07:31
and I make all of these by hand, and it's really tedious.
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ูˆุฃู†ุง ุฃูƒุชุจู‡ุง ูƒู„ู‘ูู‡ุง ุจุงู„ูŠุฏุŒ ูˆู‡ูˆ ุฃู…ุฑ ู…ู…ู„ู‘ูŒ ูุนู„ุงู‹.
07:34
It takes a long, long time to make these scores,
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ูุงู„ุฃู…ุฑ ูŠุฃุฎุฐ ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ูˆุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ูˆู‚ุช ู„ูƒุชุงุจุฉ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู…ู‚ุทูˆุนุงุชุŒ
07:36
and right now I'm working on a piece
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ุฃู†ุง ุฃุนู…ู„ ููŠ ุงู„ูˆู‚ุช ุงู„ุญุงุถุฑ ุนู„ู‰ ู…ู‚ุทูˆุนุฉ
07:38
that's 180 pages in length,
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ุจุทูˆู„ 180 ุตูุญุฉุŒ
07:40
and it's just a big chunk of my life, and I'm just pulling out hair.
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ูˆู‡ูŠ ุจุนุจุนูŒ ูƒุจูŠุฑูŒ ููŠ ุญูŠุงุชูŠุŒ ูŠุฌุนู„ู†ูŠ ุฃุดุฏ ุดุนุฑูŠ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฌู†ูˆู†.
07:45
I have a lot of it, and that's a good thing I suppose. (Laughter)
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ู„ูƒู† ู„ุฏูŠ ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ุดุนุฑุŒ ูˆุฐู„ูƒ ุฃู…ุฑูŒ ุฌูŠู‘ุฏ ุนู„ู‰ ู…ุง ุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ (ุถุญูƒ)
07:47
So this gets really boring and really tiresome for me,
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ุฅุฐุงู‹.. ุงู„ุฃู…ุฑ ูŠุตุจุญ ู…ู…ู„ุงู‹ ูˆู…ุถุฌุฑุงู‹ ูุนู„ุงู‹ ุจุงู„ู†ุณุจุฉ ู„ูŠุŒ
07:51
so after a while the process of notating is not only boring,
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ู„ูŠุณ ุฃู†ู‘ูŽ ูƒุชุงุจุฉ ุงู„ู†ูˆุชุงุช ุงู„ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ูŠุฉ ุชุตุจุญ ู…ู…ู„ู‘ูŽุฉ ูุญุณุจ ุจุนุฏ ูุชุฑุฉุŒ
07:54
but I actually want the notation to be more interesting,
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ุจู„ ุฃูŠุถุงู‹ ุฃู†ูŠ ุฃุฑูŠุฏ ู„ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู†ูˆุชุงุช ุฃู† ุชูƒูˆู† ู…ู…ูŠู‘ูŽุฒุฉ ูˆู…ุซูŠุฑุฉุŒ
07:57
and so that's pushed me to do other projects like this one.
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ูˆุฐู„ูƒ ู…ุง ุฏูุนู†ูŠ ู„ู„ู‚ูŠุงู… ุจู…ุดุฑูˆุนุงุชู ุฃุฎุฑู‰ ู…ุซู„ ู‡ุฐุง.
08:00
This is an excerpt from a score called
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ู‡ุฐุง ู…ู‚ุชุทููŒ ู…ู† ู…ู‚ุทูˆุนุฉ ุชุณู…ู‘ูŽู‰
08:02
"The Metaphysics of Notation."
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"ู…ูŠุชุงูุฒูŠู‚ูŠุง ูƒุชุงุจุฉ ุงู„ู†ูˆุชุงุช"
08:04
The full score is 72 feet wide.
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ุงู„ู…ู‚ุทูˆุนุฉ ุงู„ูƒุงู…ู„ุฉ ุจุนุฑุถ 22 ู…ุชุฑุงู‹.
08:07
It's a bunch of crazy pictographic notation.
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ุฅู†ู‡ุง ู…ุญุถ ู†ูˆุชุฉู ู…ู‡ุชุฑุฆุฉ ุฌู†ูˆู†ูŠุฉ.
08:09
Let's zoom in on one section of it right here. You can see
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ุฏุนูˆู†ุง ู†ุฑูƒู‘ุฒ ุนู„ู‰ ุฌุฒุก ู…ู†ู‡ุง ู‡ู†ุงุŒ ูŠู…ูƒู†ูƒู… ุฃู† ุชุฑูˆุง
08:12
it's rather detailed. I do all of this with drafting templates,
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ุฅู†ู‡ุง ู…ูุตู‘ูŽู„ุฉ ุฌุฏุงู‹. ุฃู‚ูˆู… ุจูƒู„ู‘ู ู‡ุฐุง ุจุณุญุจ ู‚ูˆุงู„ุจ
08:16
with straight edges, with French curves, and by freehand,
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ุจุญูˆุงูู‘ ู…ุถู„ู‘ูŽุนุฉ ูˆุจู…ู†ุญู†ูŠุงุช ูุฑู†ุณูŠุฉ (*ู†ูˆุน ู…ู† ุงู„ุฃุดูƒุงู„ ุฐูˆ ู…ู†ุญู†ูŠุงุช ู…ุชุนุฏู‘ุฏุฉ)ุŒ ูƒู…ุง ุฃู‚ูˆู… ุจู‡ ุจุงู„ูŠุฏ
08:20
and the 72 feet was actually split
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ู„ูƒู† ู…ู‚ุทูˆุนุฉ ุงู„ู€22 ู…ุชุฑุงู‹ ู‚ูุณู‘ูู…ุช ุจุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุน
08:22
into 12 six-foot-wide panels that were installed
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ุฅู„ู‰ ุณุชุฉ ุฃุฌุฒุงุกู ุจุนุฑุถ ู†ุญูˆ ุฃุฑุจุนุฉ ุฃู…ุชุงุฑุŒ ูˆุงู„ุชูŠ ุนูุฑูุถูŽุช
08:25
around the Cantor Arts Center Museum lobby balcony,
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ุญูˆู„ ุดุฑูุฉ ุนู†ุฏ ู…ุฏุฎู„ ู…ุชุญู ู…ุฑูƒุฒ ูƒุงู†ุชูˆุฑ ู„ู„ูู†ูˆู†
08:30
and it appeared for one year in the museum,
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ูˆุธู„ู‘ูŽุช ู…ุนุฑูˆุถุฉู‹ ู„ุนุงู… ูˆุงุญุฏ ููŠ ุงู„ู…ุชุญูุŒ
08:34
and during that year, it was experienced as visual art
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ูˆุฎู„ุงู„ ุฐู„ูƒ ุงู„ุนุงู…ุŒ ุนุฑุถุช ุจุตูุชู‡ุง ูู†ุงู‹ ุจุตุฑูŠุงู‹
08:37
most of the week, except, as you can see in these pictures,
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ูˆุฎู„ุงู„ ู…ุนุธู… ุงู„ุฃุณุจูˆุน.. ูƒู…ุง ุชุฑูˆู† ููŠ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุตูˆุฑุŒ ุจุงุณุชุซู†ุงุก
08:39
on Fridays, from noon til one, and only during that time,
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ุฃูŠุงู… ุงู„ุฌู…ุนุฉุŒ ู…ู† ุงู„ุธู‡ุฑ ุญุชู‰ ุงู„ู…ุณุงุกุŒ ูˆุฎู„ุงู„ ุฐู„ูƒ ุงู„ูˆู‚ุช ูุญุณุจ
08:42
various performers came and interpreted these strange
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ุฌุงุก ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ุนุงุฒููŠู† ูˆุชุฑุฌู…ูˆุง ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู…ู‚ุทูˆุนุฉ ุงู„ุบุฑูŠุจุฉ
08:45
and undefined pictographic glyphs. (Laughter)
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ูˆุนุฏุฏุงู‹ ุบูŠุฑ ู…ุญุฏูˆุฏ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฑุณูˆู…ุงุช ุบูŠุฑ ุงู„ู…ูู‡ูˆู…ุฉ (ุถุญูƒ).
08:48
Now this was a really exciting experience for me.
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ู„ู‚ุฏ ูƒุงู†ุช ู‡ุฐู‡ ุชุฌุฑุจุฉู‹ ู…ุซูŠุฑุฉู‹ ูุนู„ุงู‹ ุจุงู„ู†ุณุจุฉ ู„ูŠ.
08:52
It was gratifying musically, but I think
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ู„ู‚ุฏ ูƒุงู†ุช ู…ุฑุถูŠุฉู‹ ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ูŠุงู‹ุŒ ุฅู„ุง ุฃู†ู‘ูŽู†ูŠ ุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ
08:54
the more important thing is it was exciting because I got to take on
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ุฃู† ุงู„ุฃู…ุฑ ุงู„ุฃู‡ู… ู‡ูˆ ูƒูˆู†ู‡ุง ู…ุซูŠุฑุฉ ู„ุฃู†ูŠ ุญุตู„ุชู
08:56
another role, especially given that it appeared in a museum,
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ุนู„ู‰ ุฏูˆุฑู ุฌุฏูŠุฏุŒ ูุฎุตูˆุตุงู‹ ูˆุฃู†ู‡ุง ุฃุตุจุญุช ู…ุนุฑูˆุถุฉ ููŠ ู…ุชุญูุŒ
08:59
and that is as visual artist. (Laughter)
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ูˆุฎุตูˆุตุงู‹ ุฃูƒุซุฑ ุจุตูุชูŠ ุฃุตุจุญุช ูู†ุงู†ุงู‹ ุจุตุฑูŠุงู‹ (ุถุญูƒ).
09:03
We're going to fill up the whole thing, don't worry. (Laughter)
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ู„ูƒู† ู„ุง ุชู‚ู„ู‚ูˆุงุŒ ู„ู… ู†ู†ุชู‡ูŠ ุจุนุฏุŒ ุณู†ู…ู„ุค ุงู„ุดุงุดุฉ ูƒู„ู‘ูŽู‡ุง (ุถุญูƒ)
09:05
I am multitudes. (Laughter)
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ุฃู†ุง ู…ุชุนุฏู‘ุฏ ุงู„ู…ูˆุงู‡ุจ (ุถุญูƒ).
09:07
So one of the things is that, I mean, some people
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ุฅุฐุงู‹ุŒ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ุดูƒู„ุงุช ุฃู†.. ุญุณู†ุงู‹ุŒ ุจุนุถ ุงู„ู†ุงุณ
09:10
would say, like, "Oh, you're being a dilettante,"
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ุณูŠู‚ูˆู„ูˆู† ุดูŠุฆุงู‹ ู…ุซู„ "ุฃูˆู‡.. ุฃู†ุช ุชุฌุนู„ ู†ูุณูƒ ูู†ุงู†ุงู‹"ุŒ
09:12
and maybe that's true. I can understand how, I mean,
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ูˆู‚ุฏ ูŠูƒูˆู† ุฐู„ูƒ ุตุญูŠุญุงู‹ุŒ ูุฃู†ุง ุฃุชูู‘ูŽู‡ู… ูƒูŠู ุฃู†ู†ูŠุŒ ุฃุนู†ูŠุŒ
09:14
because I don't have a pedigree in visual art
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ู„ุฃู†ู†ูŠ ู„ุง ุฃู…ุชู„ูƒ ู…ู‡ุงุฑุฉู‹ ููŠ ุงู„ูู† ุงู„ุจุตุฑูŠ
09:16
and I don't have any training, but it's just something
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ูˆู„ู… ูŠุณุจู‚ ูˆุฃู† ุชุฏุฑู‘ูŽุจุช ุนู„ูŠู‡ ู‚ุทุŒ ู„ูƒู†ู‡ ู…ุฌุฑู‘ูŽุฏ ุดูŠุก
09:18
that I wanted to do as an extension of my composition,
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ุฃุฑุฏุช ูุนู„ู‡ ูƒุฌุฒุกู ู…ู† ุชุฃู„ูŠููŠ ุงู„ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ูŠุŒ
09:21
as an extension of a kind of creative impulse.
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ูƒุฌุฒุกู ู…ู† ู†ูˆุนู ู…ู† ุงู„ู†ุฒูˆุงุช ุงู„ุฅุจุฏุงุนูŠุฉ.
09:24
I can understand the question, though. "But is it music?"
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ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ูŠ - ู…ุน ุฐู„ูƒ - ุชูู‡ู‘ูู… ุณุคุงู„ " ู„ูƒู†ุŒ ู‡ู„ ู‡ุฐู‡ ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ู‰ " ุŸ
09:27
I mean, there's not any traditional notation.
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ุฃุนู†ูŠุŒ ุฃู†ู‘ูŽู‡ุง ู„ุง ุชู…ุชุงุฒ ุจุฃูŠ ู…ู† ุฎุตุงุฆุต ุงู„ู†ูˆุชุงุช ุงู„ุชู‚ู„ูŠุฏูŠุฉ.
09:29
I can also understand that sort of implicit criticism
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ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ูŠ ุฃูŠุถุงู‹ ุชูู‡ู‘ูู… ุงู„ู†ู‚ุฏ ุงู„ุถู…ู†ูŠู‘
09:31
in this piece, "S-tog," which I made when I was living in Copenhagen.
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ู„ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู…ู‚ุทูˆุนุฉ: "S-tog"ุŒ ุงู„ุชูŠ ูƒุชุจุชู‡ุง ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ูƒู†ุช ุฃุนูŠุด ููŠ ูƒูˆุจู‘ู†ู‡ุงุบู†.
09:35
I took the Copenhagen subway map and
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ูู…ุง ูุนู„ุชู‡ ู‡ูˆ ุฃู†ู‘ูŽู†ูŠ ุฃุฎุฐุช ุฎุฑูŠุทุฉ ู‚ุทุงุฑุงุช ูƒูˆุจู‘ู†ู‡ุงุบู†
09:37
I renamed all the stations to abstract musical provocations,
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ูˆุบูŠู‘ูŽุฑุช ุฃุณู…ุงุก ุฌู…ูŠุน ุงู„ู…ุญุทุงุช ู„ุชุนุจู‘ุฑ ุนู† ู…ุดุงุนุฑ ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ูŠุฉุŒ
09:40
and the players, who are synchronized with stopwatches,
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ูˆุฃู…ุง ุงู„ุนุงุฒููˆู† ุงู„ู…ูุฒูŽุงู…ูŽู†ูˆู† ุจุณุงุนุงุช ู…ุนูŠู‘ูŽุฑุฉ
09:43
follow the timetables, which are listed in minutes past the hour.
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ูู‡ู… ูŠู„ุชุฒู…ูˆู† ุจู„ูˆุงุฆุญ ุฒู…ู†ูŠุฉุŒ ู…ูƒุชูˆุจุฉ ุจุงู„ุฏู‚ุงุฆู‚ ุนู‚ุจ ุงู„ุณุงุนุงุช.
09:46
So this is a case of actually adapting something,
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ุฅุฐุงู‹ุŒ ู‡ุฐุง ู…ุง ูŠุนู†ูŠู‡ ุญู‚ุงู‹ ุฃู† ุชู‡ุฌู‘ูู† ุดูŠุฆุงู‹ุŒ
09:49
or maybe stealing something,
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ุฃูˆ ุฑุจู‘ูŽู…ุง ุฃู† ุชุณุฑู‚ู‡ุŒ
09:51
and then turning it into a musical notation.
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ุซู… ุชุญูˆู„ู‡ ุฅู„ู‰ ู†ูˆุชุฉ ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ูŠุฉ.
09:53
Another adaptation would be this piece.
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ู…ู† ุงู„ุชู‡ุฌูŠู†ุงุช ุงู„ุฃุฎุฑู‰ ุงู„ุชูŠ ู‚ู…ุชู ุจู‡ุง ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู…ู‚ุทูˆุนุฉ.
09:55
I took the idea of the wristwatch, and I turned it into a musical score.
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ูู‚ุฏ ุฃุฎุฐุชู ููƒุฑุฉ ุณุงุนุฉ ุงู„ูŠุฏุŒ ูˆุญูˆู‘ูŽู„ุชู‡ุง ุฅู„ู‰ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู…ู‚ุทูˆุนุฉ ุงู„ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ูŠุฉุŒ
09:58
I made my own faces, and had a company fabricate them,
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ูุตู†ุนุช ุณุงุนุงุชูŠ ุงู„ุฎุงุตู‘ูŽุฉุŒ ูˆุฌุนู„ุช ุจุนุถ ุฃุตุฏู‚ุงุฆูŠ ูŠุนุฏู‘ู„ูˆู†ู‡ุงุŒ
10:02
and the players follow these scores.
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ูˆุฃู…ุง ุงู„ุนุงุฒููˆู† ูุฅู†ู‡ู… ูŠุชุจุนูˆู† ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู…ุคุดุฑุงุชุŒ
10:04
They follow the second hands, and as they pass over
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ูู‡ู… ูŠุชุจุนูˆู† ุงู„ุนู‚ุงุฑุจ ุงู„ุซุงู†ูŠุฉ ู„ู„ุณุงุนุงุชุŒ ูˆู…ุน ุชู‚ุฏู‘ูู… ุงู„ุนู‚ุฑุจ ูˆู…ุฑูˆุฑู‡ ููˆู‚
10:06
the various symbols, the players respond musically.
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ุงู„ุฑู…ูˆุฒ ุงู„ู…ุฎุชู„ูุฉุŒ ุณูŠุนุฑู ุงู„ุนุงุฒู ู…ุง ุนู„ูŠู‡ ุนุฒูู‡.
10:09
Here's another example from another piece,
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ูˆู‡ู†ุง ู…ุซุงู„ูŒ ุขุฎุฑ ู…ู† ู…ู‚ุทูˆุนุฉ ุขุฎุฑู‰ุŒ
10:11
and then its realization.
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ุซู… ู‡ู†ุง ุชุญูˆูŠู„ู‡ุง ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุน.
10:13
So in these two capacities, I've been scavenger,
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ุฅุฐุงู‹ ููŠ ู‡ุงุชูŠู† ุงู„ุญุงู„ุชูŠู†ุŒ ูƒู†ุช ู‚ู…ู‘ูŽุงู…ุงู‹ุŒ
10:16
in the sense of taking, like, the subway map, right,
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ุนู„ู‰ ุตุนูŠุฏ ุงู„ุญุฏูŠุซ ุนู†.. ุฑุจู‘ูŽู…ุงุŒ ุฎุฑูŠุทุฉ ุงู„ู‚ุทุงุฑุงุชุŒ ุญุณู†ุงู‹ุŒ
10:18
or thief maybe, and I've also been designer,
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ุฃูˆ ุฑุจู‘ูŽู…ุง ูƒู†ุช ู„ุตุงู‹ุŒ ูƒู…ุง ูƒู†ุชู ุฃูŠุถุงู‹ ู…ุตู…ู‘ูู…ุงู‹
10:21
in the case of making the wristwatches.
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ููŠ ุญุงู„ุฉ ุตู†ุน ุณุงุนุงุช ุงู„ูŠุฏ.
10:23
And once again, this is, for me, interesting.
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ูˆู…ุฌุฏุฏุงู‹ ูุฅู† ู‡ุฐุง - ุจุงู„ู†ุณุจุฉ ู„ูŠ - ุฃู…ุฑูŒ ู…ุซูŠุฑ.
10:26
Another role that I like to take on is that of the performance artist.
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ูˆู‡ู†ุง ุฏูˆุฑ ุขุฎุฑ ุฃุญุจ ุฃู† ุฃุถูŠูู‡ ู„ู‚ุงุฆู…ุชู†ุง ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ูู†ุงู† ุงู„ุชุทุจูŠู‚ูŠู‘.
10:30
Some of my pieces have these kind of weird theatric elements,
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ู„ุฏู‰ ุจุนุถ ู…ู‚ุทูˆุนุงุชูŠ ู†ูˆุน ู…ู† ุงู„ู„ู…ุณุงุช ุงู„ู…ุณุฑุญูŠู‘ูŽุฉ ุงู„ุณุฎูŠูุฉุŒ
10:32
and I often perform them. I want to show you a clip
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ูˆูƒุซูŠุฑุงู‹ ู…ุง ุฃู‚ูˆู… ุจู‡ุง. ุฃุฑูŠุฏ ุฃู† ุฃุฑูŠูƒู… ู…ู‚ุชุทูุงู‹
10:35
from a piece called "Echolalia."
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ู…ู† ู…ู‚ุทูˆุนุฉ ุชุณู…ู‘ูŽู‰ "Echolalia" (*ู…ุตุทู„ุญูŒ ูŠูˆู†ุงู†ูŠ ูŠุดูŠุฑ ุฅู„ู‰ ุชูƒุฑุงุฑ ุชู„ู‚ุงุฆูŠ ู„ู…ุง ูŠู‚ูˆู„ู‡ ุดุฎุต ุขุฎุฑุŒ ู…ุซู„ ู…ุง ุชูุนู„ ุงู„ุจุจู‘ูŽุบุงูˆุงุช)
10:36
This is actually being performed by Brian McWhorter,
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ู…ู† ูŠุนุฒู ู‡ุฐุง ุจุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุน ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ูŠ ุจุฑูŠุงู† ู…ุงูƒูˆุฑุชุฑุŒ
10:39
who is an extraordinary performer.
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ูˆู‡ูˆ ุนุงุฒู ุบูŠุฑ ุนุงุฏูŠู‘.
10:41
Let's watch a little bit of this, and please notice the instrumentation.
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ุฏุนูˆู†ุง ู†ุดุงู‡ุฏ ุงู„ู‚ู„ูŠู„ ู…ู† ู‡ุฐุงุŒ ูˆุฃุฑุฌูˆูƒู… ุงู†ุชุจู‡ูˆุง ุฅู„ู‰ ูƒูŠููŠู‘ูŽุฉ ุงุณุชุฎุฏุงู… ุงู„ุขู„ุงุช.
10:44
(Music)
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(ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ู‰)
11:13
Okay, I hear you were laughing nervously because
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ุญุณู†ุงู‹ุŒ ูƒู†ุช ุฃุณู…ุนูƒู… ูˆุฃู†ุชู… ุชุถุญูƒูˆู† ุจุฌู†ูˆู†ู ู„ุฃู†ูƒู…
11:15
you too could hear that the drill was a little bit sharp,
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ุฃู†ุชู… ุฃูŠุถุงู‹ ุชู…ูƒู‘ูŽู†ุชู… ู…ู† ุณู…ุงุน ุตูˆุช ุงู„ู…ุซู‚ุงุจ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูƒุงู† ุญุฏุงู‹ ู‚ู„ูŠู„ุงู‹ุŒ
11:17
the intonation was a little questionable. (Laughter)
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ูู‚ุฏ ูƒุงู† ุชู†ุบูŠู… ุงู„ู…ู‚ุทูˆุนุฉ ู…ูˆุถุน ุดูƒู‘ ุจุนุถ ุงู„ุดูŠุก (ุถุญูƒ).
11:19
Let's watch just another clip.
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ุฏุนูˆู†ุง ู†ุดุงู‡ุฏ ู…ู‚ุทุนุงู‹ ุขุฎุฑ.
11:21
(Music)
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(ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ู‰)
11:32
You can see the mayhem continues, and there's, you know,
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ูŠู…ูƒู† ุฃู† ุชุฑูˆุง ุงู„ู†ู‘ูŽุดุงุฒ ูŠุณุชู…ุฑุŒ ูˆู„ู… ุชูƒู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ.. ูƒู… ุชุฑูˆู†
11:34
there were no clarinets and trumpets
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ู„ู… ุชูƒู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ู…ุฒุงู…ูŠุฑ ูˆุฃุจูˆุงู‚
11:36
and flutes and violins. Here's a piece that has
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ูˆู„ุง ูƒู…ุงู†ุงุช ูˆูู„ูˆุช. ูˆุฅู„ูŠูƒู… ู…ู‚ุทูˆุนุฉ ู„ุฏูŠู‡ุง
11:38
an even more unusual, more peculiar instrumentation.
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ุขู„ุงุช ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ูŠุฉ ุฃู‚ู„ู‘ูŽ ุงุนุชูŠุงุฏูŠุฉ ุญุชู‰ ู…ู† ุณุงุจู‚ุงุชู‡ุง.
11:41
This is "Tlรถn," for three conductors and no players. (Laughter)
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ู‡ุฐู‡ ู…ู‚ุทูˆุนุฉ ุจุงุณู… " ุชู„ูˆู† "ุŒ ุชูุนุฒูŽู ุจุซู„ุงุซุฉ ุฅูŠู…ุงุฆูŠู‘ูŠู† ูˆุฏูˆู† ุนุงุฒููŠู† (ุถุญูƒ)
11:57
This was based on the experience of actually watching
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ุจู†ูŠ ู‡ุฐุง ุนู„ู‰ ุชุฌุฑุจุฉู ู…ุณุชู…ุฏุฉ ุจุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุน ู…ู† ู…ุดุงู‡ุฏุฉ
11:59
two people having a virulent argument in sign language,
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ุดุฎุตูŠู† ูŠุฎูˆุถุงู† ู†ู‚ุงุดุงู‹ ุญุงุฏุงู‹ ุฌุฏุงู‹ ุจู„ุบุฉ ุงู„ุฅุดุงุฑุฉุŒ
12:02
which produced no decibels to speak of,
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ู†ู‚ุงุดูŒ ู„ู… ุชุฎุฑุฌ ุฎู„ุงู„ู‡ ุฃุตูˆุงุช ู„ู„ุชุญุฏู‘ุซ ุนู†ู‡ุงุŒ
12:03
but affectively, psychologically, was a very loud experience.
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ู„ูƒู† ูˆุจุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉู ู…ุง.. ูƒุงู†ุช ุชู„ูƒ - ู†ูุณูŠุงู‹ - ุชุฌุฑุจุฉู‹ ุดุฏูŠุฏุฉ ุงู„ุถุฌูŠุฌ.
12:07
So, yeah, I get it, with, like, the weird appliances
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ุฅุฐุงู‹.. ู†ุนู…ุŒ ุฃุญุตู„ ุนู„ู‰ ุฐู„ูƒ ุจุฃุดูŠุงุกู ู…ุซู„.. ุงู„ุงุณุชุนู…ุงู„ุงุช ุงู„ุณุฎูŠูุฉ
12:10
and then the total absence of conventional instruments
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ุซู… ุนุฏู… ูˆุฌูˆุฏ ุฃูŠู‘ู ู…ู† ุงู„ุขู„ุงุช ุงู„ุชู‚ู„ูŠุฏูŠุฉุŒ
12:15
and this glut of conductors, people might, you know,
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ูˆุฃุฎูŠุฑุงู‹ ุณุฎุงูุฉ ุงู„ุฅูŠู…ุงุฆูŠู‘ูŠู† ู‡ุคู„ุงุกุŒ ู‚ุฏ ูŠุชุณุงุกู„ ุงู„ู†ุงุณ..
12:17
wonder, yeah, "Is this music?"
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ุญุณู†ุงู‹ " ุฃู‡ุฐู‡ ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ู‰ุŸ "
12:20
But let's move on to a piece where clearly I'm behaving myself,
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ู„ูƒู† ุฏุนูˆู†ุง ู†ู†ุชู‚ู„ ุฅู„ู‰ ู…ู‚ุทูˆุนุฉ ุญูŠุซ ุฃู†ุง ุณูŠู‘ุฏ ู†ูุณูŠ ุจุฏูˆู† ุฌุฏุงู„
12:24
and that is my "Concerto for Orchestra."
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ูˆุชู„ูƒ ู‡ูŠ "ู„ุญู† ุงู„ุฃูˆุฑูƒุณุชุฑุง ุงู„ูุฑุฏูŠ".
12:27
You're going to notice a lot of conventional instruments
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ุณุชุฑูˆู† ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ุขู„ุงุช ุงู„ุชู‚ู„ูŠุฏูŠุฉ
12:29
in this clip. (Music)
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ููŠ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ู‚ุทุน (ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ู‰)
12:32
(Music)
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(ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ู‰)
12:45
This, in fact, is not the title of this piece.
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ู‡ุฐุง - ุจุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุน - ู„ูŠุณ ุงุณู… ุงู„ู…ู‚ุทูˆุนุฉุŒ
12:47
I was a bit mischievous. In fact, to make it more interesting,
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ู„ู‚ุฏ ูƒู†ุช ุฃุณุชุณุฎู ู‚ู„ูŠู„ุงู‹ุŒ ูุจุงู„ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉ ูˆู„ุฌุนู„ู‡ุง ุฃูƒุซุฑ ุชุดูˆูŠู‚ุงู‹
12:50
I put a space right in here, and this is the actual title of the piece.
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ู‚ู…ุชู ุจุฅุถุงูุฉ ูุฑุงุบู ู‡ู†ุงุŒ ูˆุฅู„ูŠูƒู… ุงู„ุขู† ุงู„ุนู†ูˆุงู† ุงู„ุญู‚ูŠู‚ูŠ ู„ู„ู…ู‚ุทูˆุนุฉ: " ู„ุญู† ุงู„ุฃูˆุฑูƒุณุชุฑุง ูˆุจุงุฆุน ุงู„ุฒู‡ูˆุฑ ุงู„ูุฑุฏูŠ "
12:54
Let's continue with that same excerpt.
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ุฏุนูˆู†ุง ู†ุชุงุจุนู‡ุง ุงู„ุขู†
12:56
(Music)
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(ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ู‰)
13:06
It's better with a florist, right? (Laughter) (Music)
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ุฅู†ู‡ุง ุฃูุถู„ ู…ุน ุจุงุฆุน ุงู„ุฒู‡ูˆุฑุŒ ุฃู„ูŠุณ ูƒุฐู„ูƒุŸ (ุถุญูƒ) (ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ู‰)
13:15
Or at least it's less boring. Let's watch a couple more clips.
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ุฃูˆ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฃู‚ู„ ุฃุตุจุญุช ุฃู‚ู„ู‘ูŽ ู…ู„ู„ุงู‹. ุฏุนูˆู†ุง ู†ุดุงู‡ุฏ ุจุถุนุฉ ู…ู‚ุงุทุน ุฃุฎุฑู‰.
13:17
(Music)
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13:31
So with all these theatric elements, this pushes me in another role,
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ุฅุฐุงู‹ุŒ ู…ุน ูƒู„ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู„ู…ุณุงุช ุงู„ู…ุณุฑุญูŠุฉุŒ ูŠู…ู†ุญู†ูŠ ู‡ุฐุง ุฏูˆุฑุงู‹ ุฌุฏูŠุฏุงู‹..
13:34
and that would be, possibly, the dramaturge.
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ูˆู‚ุฏ ูŠูƒูˆู† ุฐู„ูƒ - ุฑุจู‘ูŽู…ุง - ุงู„ุฏุฑุงู…ุงุชุฑุบูŠ (*ุดุฎุต ูŠุชูˆู„ู‘ูŽู‰ ุชุทูˆูŠุฑ ุงู„ุนุฑูˆุถ ูˆุงู„ุฃูˆุจุฑุงุช ู†ุธุฑูŠุงู‹)
13:37
I was playing nice. I had to write the orchestra bits, right?
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ูƒู†ุช ุฃุนุฒู ุนุฒูุงู‹ ู„ุทูŠูุงู‹. ูู‚ุฏ ุงุถุทุฑุฑุชู ู„ูƒุชุงุจุฉ ุชูุงุตูŠู„ ุงู„ุฃูˆุฑูƒุณุชุฑุง
13:41
Okay? But then there was this other stuff, right?
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ุญุณู†ุงู‹..ุŸ ู„ูƒู† ูƒุงู†ุช ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุนู†ุฏุฆุฐู ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู…ุดูƒู„ุฉ ุงู„ุฃุฎุฑู‰
13:44
There was the florist, and I can understand that,
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ูู‚ุฏ ูƒุงู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุจุงุฆุน ุฒู‡ูˆุฑุŒ ูˆูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ูŠ ุชูู‡ู‘ูู…
13:45
once again, we're putting pressure on the ontology of music
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ุฃู†ู‘ูŽู†ุง - ู…ุฑุฉ ุฃุฎุฑู‰ - ู†ุถุน ุนุจุฆุงู‹ ุซู‚ูŠู„ุงู‹ ุนู„ู‰ ุชุนุฑูŠู ุงู„ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ู‰
13:49
as we know it conventionally,
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ูƒู…ุง ู†ุนุฑูู‡ุง ุนุงุฏุฉู‹ุŒ
13:51
but let's look at one last piece today I'm going to share with you.
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ู„ูƒู† ุฏุนูˆู†ุง ู†ู„ู‚ูŠ ู†ุธุฑุฉู‹ ุนู„ู‰ ู…ู‚ุทูˆุนุฉ ุฃุฎูŠุฑุฉ ู„ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ูŠูˆู… ุณุฃุดุงุฑูƒู‡ุง ู…ุนูƒู….
13:56
This is going to be a piece called "Aphasia,"
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ู‡ุฐู‡ ู…ู‚ุทูˆุนุฉ ุชุณู…ู‘ูŽู‰ "ุงู„ุญุจุณุฉ" (*ุงุถุทุฑุงุจ ู…ูƒุชุณุจ ููŠ ุงู„ู„ุบุฉ ูŠุคุฏูŠ ูŠุชุณุจู‘ูŽุจ ุจูˆุฌูˆุฏ ุถุนู ุนู†ุฏ ุงู„ู…ุตุงุจ ุจู‡ ููŠ ูู‡ู… ุงู„ู„ุบุฉ ุฃูˆ ู†ุทู‚ู‡ุง)
13:58
and it's for hand gestures synchronized to sound,
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ูˆู‡ูŠ ุนุจุงุฑุฉ ุนู† ุฅูŠู…ุงุกุงุช ุจุงู„ุฃูŠุฏูŠ ุชุชุฒุงู…ู† ู…ุน ุฃุตูˆุงุชุŒ
14:02
and this invites yet another role, and final one
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ูˆู‡ุฐุง ูŠุฌู„ุจ ุฅู„ูŠู†ุง ุฏูˆุฑุงู‹ ุฌุฏูŠุฏุงู‹ุŒ ูˆู‡ูˆ ุงู„ุฏูˆุฑ ุงู„ุฃุฎูŠุฑ
14:05
I'll share with you, which is that of the choreographer.
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ูˆุณุฃุดุงุฑูƒู‡ ู…ุนูƒู…ุŒ ูู‡ูˆ ุนุงู„ู… ุงู„ุฑู‘ูŽู‚ุต.
14:07
And the score for the piece looks like this,
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ูˆุชุจุฏูˆ ู†ูˆุชุฉ ุงู„ู…ู‚ุทูˆุนุฉ ุจู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุดูƒู„ุŒ
14:10
and it instructs me, the performer, to make
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ูˆู‡ูŠ ุชุนุทูŠู†ูŠ ุชุนู„ูŠู…ุงุชู ุฃู†ุง - ุงู„ุนุงุฒู - ู„ุฃู‚ูˆู…
14:14
various hand gestures at very specific times
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ุจุฅูŠู…ุงุกุงุชู ู…ุฎุชู„ูุฉ ุจุงู„ูŠุฏ ุจุฃูˆู‚ุงุชู ู…ุญุฏู‘ูŽุฏุฉ ุฌุฏุงู‹
14:17
synchronized with an audio tape, and that audio tape
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ุชุชุฒุงู…ู† ู…ุน ุดุฑูŠุท ุตูˆุชุŒ ูˆุดุฑูŠุท ุงู„ุตูˆุช ู‡ุฐุง
14:19
is made up exclusively of vocal samples.
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ู…ุคู„ู‘ูŽู ุญุตุฑุงู‹ ู…ู† ุฃุตูˆุงุช ุจุดุฑูŠุฉ.
14:22
I recorded an awesome singer,
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ูู‚ุฏ ุณุฌู„ุชู ุตูˆุช ู…ุบู†ู‘ ุฑุงุฆุน
14:24
and I took the sound of his voice in my computer,
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ูˆุฃุฎุฐุช ุตูˆุชู‡ ูˆุนุฏู„ุชู‡ ุนู„ู‰ ุญุงุณูˆุจูŠุŒ
14:27
and I warped it in countless ways to come up with
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ูˆุบูŠู‘ูŽุฑุชู‡ ุจุทุฑู‚ ู„ุง ูŠู…ูƒู† ุฅุญุตุงุคู‡ุง ู„ุฃู†ุชู‡ูŠ
14:29
the soundtrack that you're about to hear.
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ุจู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุดูŠุก ุงู„ุฐูŠ ุณุชุณู…ุนูˆู†ู‡ ุงู„ุขู†.
14:32
And I'll perform just an excerpt of "Aphasia" for you here. Okay?
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ูˆู„ู† ุฃุนุฒู ู„ูƒู… ุงู„ุขู† ุณูˆู‰ ุฌุฒุก ู…ู† ุงู„ู‚ุทูˆุนุฉุŒ ุญุณู†ุงู‹ุŸ
14:37
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15:15
So that gives you a little taste of that piece. (Applause)
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ุญุณู†ุงู‹ุŒ ู‡ุฐุง ูŠุนุทูŠูƒู… ููƒุฑุฉ ุจุณูŠุทุฉ ุนู† ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ู…ู‚ุทูˆุนุฉ (ุชุตููŠู‚)
15:21
Yeah, okay, that's kind of weird stuff.
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ู†ุนู…ุŒ ุญุณู†ุงู‹ุŒ ู‡ุฐุง ูŠุจุฏูˆ ู†ูˆุนุงู‹ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฃุดูŠุงุก ุงู„ุณุฎูŠูุฉ.
15:24
Is it music? Here's how I want to conclude.
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ู‡ู„ ู‡ูŠ ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ู‰ุŸ ุฅู„ูŠูƒู… ูƒูŠู ุฃุฑูŠุฏ ุงู„ุฅุฌุงุจุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ุฐู„ูƒ.
15:26
I've decided, ultimately, that this is the wrong question,
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ูู‚ุฏ ู‚ุฑู‘ูŽุฑุช - ููŠ ุงู„ู†ู‡ุงูŠุฉ - ุฃู† ู‡ุฐุง ุณุคุงู„ ุฎุงุทุฆุŒ
15:29
that this is not the important question.
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ูู‡ูˆ ู„ูŠุณ ุงู„ุณุคุงู„ ุงู„ู…ู‡ู…ู‘ุŒ
15:31
The important question is, "Is it interesting?"
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ุจู„ ุงู„ุณุคุงู„ ุงู„ู…ู‡ู…ู‘ ู‡ูˆ: " ุฃู‡ูŠ ู…ุซูŠุฑุฉุŸ "
15:33
And I follow this question, not worrying about "Is it music?" --
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ูˆุฃู†ุง ุฃุนู…ู„ ูˆูู‚ุงู‹ ู„ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุณุคุงู„ุŒ ุฏูˆู† ุฃู† ุฃุนุจุฃ ุจู…ุง ุฅุฐุง " ูƒุงู†ุช ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ู‰ "
15:36
not worrying about the definition of the thing that I'm making.
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ูุฃู†ุง ู„ุง ุฃุนุจุฃ ุจุชุนุฑูŠู ุงู„ุดูŠุก ุงู„ุฐูŠ ุฃุตู†ุนู‡.
15:39
I allow my creativity to push me
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ุจู„ ุฃุชุฑูƒ ุฅุจุฏุงุนูŠ ู„ูŠุณูŠู‘ูุฑู†ูŠ
15:41
in directions that are simply interesting to me,
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ููŠ ุงุชุฌุงู‡ุงุชู ุชุจุฏูˆ ุจุจุณุงุทุฉ ู…ุซูŠุฑุฉ ุจุงู„ู†ุณุจุฉ ู„ูŠุŒ
15:43
and I don't worry about the likeness of the result
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ูˆู„ุง ุฃุนุจุฃ ุจุฃู† ุชุดุจู‡ ุงู„ู†ุชูŠุฌุฉ
15:46
to some notion, some paradigm,
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ู…ุซุงู„ุงู‹ ุฃูˆ ู†ู…ูˆุฐุฌุงู‹
15:48
of what music composition is supposed to be,
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ุนู† ูƒูŠู ูŠูุชุฑุถ ุฃู† ูŠูƒูˆู† ุชุฃู„ูŠู ุงู„ู…ูˆุณูŠู‚ู‰ุŒ
15:51
and that has actually urged me, in a sense,
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ูˆู‚ุฏ ุญุซู‘ูŽู†ูŠ ุฐู„ูƒ ููŠ ุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุน.. ุจุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ู…ุงุŒ
15:54
to take on a whole bunch of different roles,
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ุนู„ู‰ ุฃุฏุงุก ู…ุฌู…ูˆุนุฉ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฃุฏูˆุงุฑ ุงู„ู…ุฎุชู„ูุฉุŒ
15:56
and so what I want you to think about is,
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ูˆู„ุฐุง ู…ุง ุฃุฑูŠุฏูƒู… ุฃู† ุชููƒู‘ูุฑูˆุง ุจู‡ ู‡ูˆ
15:58
to what extent might you change the fundamental question
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ุฅู„ู‰ ุฃูŠู‘ู ู…ุฏู‰ ุจุฅู…ูƒุงู†ูƒู… ุชุบูŠูŠุฑ ุงู„ุณุคุงู„ ุงู„ุฃุณุงุณูŠ
16:01
in your discipline, and, okay,
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ุจุทุฑูŠู‚ุชูƒู… ุฃู†ุชู…ุŒ ูˆุญุณู†ุงู‹..
16:04
I'm going to put one extra little footnote in here,
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ุณุฃุถุน ู…ู„ุงุญุธุฉ ุฅุถุงููŠุฉ ุตุบูŠุฑุฉ ู‡ู†ุงุŒ
16:06
because, like, I realized I mentioned
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ู„ุฃู†ู†ูŠ ุฃุฏุฑูƒุช ุฃู†ู†ูŠ ุชุญุฏุซุช
16:08
some psychological defects earlier, and we also,
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ุนู† ุจุนุถ ุงู„ุนูŠูˆุจ ุงู„ู†ูุณูŠุฉ ุนู†ุฏูŠ ู…ู† ู‚ุจู„ุŒ ูˆู†ุญู† ุฃูŠุถุงู‹ ู„ุฏูŠู†ุง
16:11
along the way, had a fair amount of obsessive behavior,
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ู‚ุฏุฑูŒ ู…ุง ู…ู† ุงู„ุณู„ูˆูƒ ุงู„ุงุณุชุนู„ุงุฆูŠุŒ
16:14
and there was some delusional behavior and things like that,
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ูˆู„ุฏูŠู†ุง ุฃูŠุถุงู‹ ุจุนุถ ุงู„ุชุถู„ูŠู„ ูˆุฃุดูŠุงุกูŒ ูƒู‡ุฐู‡ุŒ
16:16
and here I think we could say that this is an argument
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ู„ุฐุง ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ูŠ ุฃู† ุฃู‚ูˆู„ ู‡ู†ุง ุฃู†ู‘ูŽ ุงู„ุบุฑุถ ู…ู† ู‡ุฐุง ู…ู†ุงู‚ุดุฉูŒ
16:19
for self-loathing and a kind of schizophrenia,
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ุงู„ุงุดู…ุฆุฒุงุฒ ู…ู† ุงู„ู†ูุณ ูˆู†ูˆุน ู…ู† ุงู„ุณูƒูŠุฒูˆูุฑูŠู†ูŠุง (ุงู†ูุตุงู… ุงู„ุดุฎุตูŠุฉ)
16:21
at least in the popular use of the term,
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ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฃู‚ู„ ุญุณุจ ุงู„ุชุนุฑูŠู ุงู„ุฏุงุฑุฌ ู„ู„ู…ุตุทู„ุญุŒ
16:23
and I really mean dissociative identity disorder, okay. (Laughter)
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ูˆู…ุง ุฃู‚ุตุฏู‡ ู‡ู†ุง ู‡ูˆ ุญู‚ุงู‹ ุงู†ูุตุงู… ุงู„ุดุฎุตูŠุฉ.. ุญุณู†ุงู‹ (ุถุญูƒ)
16:26
Anyway, despite those perils, I would urge you
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ุฃูŠุงู‹ ูŠูƒู†ุŒ ุจุงู„ุฑุบู… ู…ู† ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู…ุฎุงุทุฑุŒ ูุณุฃู„ุญู‘ ุนู„ูŠูƒู…
16:29
to think about the possibility that you might take on roles
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ู„ู„ุชููƒูŠุฑ ุจุฅู…ูƒุงู†ูŠุฉ ุฃู† ุชุคุฏูˆุง ุฃุฏูˆุงุฑุงู‹
16:31
in your own work, whether they are neighboring
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ููŠ ู…ุฌุงู„ุงุชูƒู… ุฃู†ุชู…ุŒ ุณูˆุงุก ูƒุงู†ุช ู‚ุฑูŠุจุฉ ู…ู† ุนู…ู„ูƒู…
16:33
or far-flung from your professional definition.
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ุฃูˆ ุจุนูŠุฏุฉู‹ ุฌุฏุงู‹ ุนู† ุชุนุฑูŠูู‡ ุงู„ุฑุณู…ูŠ.
16:36
And with that, I thank you very much. (Applause)
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ูˆุจุฐู„ูƒ.. ุฃุดูƒุฑูƒู… ุดูƒุฑุงู‹ ุฌุฒูŠู„ุงู‹ (ุชุตููŠู‚)
16:38
(Applause)
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ุญูˆู„ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ูˆู‚ุน

ุณูŠู‚ุฏู… ู„ูƒ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ูˆู‚ุน ู…ู‚ุงุทุน ููŠุฏูŠูˆ YouTube ุงู„ู…ููŠุฏุฉ ู„ุชุนู„ู… ุงู„ู„ุบุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุฌู„ูŠุฒูŠุฉ. ุณุชุฑู‰ ุฏุฑูˆุณ ุงู„ู„ุบุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุฌู„ูŠุฒูŠุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ูŠุชู… ุชุฏุฑูŠุณู‡ุง ู…ู† ู‚ุจู„ ู…ุฏุฑุณูŠู† ู…ู† ุงู„ุฏุฑุฌุฉ ุงู„ุฃูˆู„ู‰ ู…ู† ุฌู…ูŠุน ุฃู†ุญุงุก ุงู„ุนุงู„ู…. ุงู†ู‚ุฑ ู†ู‚ุฑู‹ุง ู…ุฒุฏูˆุฌู‹ุง ููˆู‚ ุงู„ุชุฑุฌู…ุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุฌู„ูŠุฒูŠุฉ ุงู„ู…ุนุฑูˆุถุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ูƒู„ ุตูุญุฉ ููŠุฏูŠูˆ ู„ุชุดุบูŠู„ ุงู„ููŠุฏูŠูˆ ู…ู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ. ูŠุชู… ุชู…ุฑูŠุฑ ุงู„ุชุฑุฌู…ุงุช ุจุงู„ุชุฒุงู…ู† ู…ุน ุชุดุบูŠู„ ุงู„ููŠุฏูŠูˆ. ุฅุฐุง ูƒุงู† ู„ุฏูŠูƒ ุฃูŠ ุชุนู„ูŠู‚ุงุช ุฃูˆ ุทู„ุจุงุช ุŒ ูŠุฑุฌู‰ ุงู„ุงุชุตุงู„ ุจู†ุง ุจุงุณุชุฎุฏุงู… ู†ู…ูˆุฐุฌ ุงู„ุงุชุตุงู„ ู‡ุฐุง.

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