The mad scientist of music | Mark Applebaum

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ืื ื ืœื—ืฅ ืคืขืžื™ื™ื ืขืœ ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ืœืžื˜ื” ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืคืขื™ืœ ืืช ื”ืกืจื˜ื•ืŸ.

00:00
Translator: Joseph Geni Reviewer: Thu-Huong Ha
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ืžืชืจื’ื: Orr Schlesinger ืžื‘ืงืจ: Ido Dekkers
00:18
I thought if I skipped it might help my nerves,
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ื—ืฉื‘ืชื™ ืœืงืคืฅ ืžืขื˜ ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ื™ืจื’ืข,
00:21
but I'm actually having a paradoxical reaction to that,
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ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ื‘ืขืฆื ืžืฉืคื™ืข ื”ืคื•ืš,
00:24
so that was a bad idea. (Laughter)
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ื›ืš ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืจืขื™ื•ืŸ ื’ืจื•ืข. [ืฆื—ื•ืง]
00:26
Anyway, I was really delighted to receive the invitation
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ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ, ืฉืžื—ืชื™ ืœืงื‘ืœ ืืช ื”ื”ื–ืžื ื”
00:29
to present to you some of my music and some of my work
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ืœื”ืฆื™ื’ ื‘ืคื ื™ื›ื ืžืขื˜ ืžื”ืžื•ืกื™ืงื” ื•ืžื”ื™ืฆื™ืจื” ืฉืœื™
00:33
as a composer, presumably because it appeals
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ื›ืžืœื—ื™ืŸ, ื›ื ืจืื” ืžืฉื•ื ืฉื–ื” ืžื—ื ื™ืฃ
00:36
to my well-known and abundant narcissism. (Laughter)
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ืœื ืจืงื™ืกื™ื–ื ื”ืžืคื•ืจืกื ื•ื”ืฉื•ืคืข ืฉืœื™. [ืฆื—ื•ืง]
00:40
And I'm not kidding, I just think we should just
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ืื ื™ ืœื ืžืชืœื•ืฆืฅ. ื—ืฉื‘ืชื™ ืฉื›ื“ืื™ ืคืฉื•ื˜
00:43
say that and move forward. (Laughter)
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ืœื”ื’ื™ื“ ืืช ื–ื” ื•ืœืขื‘ื•ืจ ื”ืœืื”. [ืฆื—ื•ืง]
00:46
So, but the thing is, a dilemma quickly arose,
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ืื‘ืœ ื”ืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ื”ื•ื ืฉืฆืฆื” ืžื™ื“ ื‘ืขื™ื”:
00:49
and that is that I'm really bored with music,
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ืžื•ืกื™ืงื” ืžืžืฉ ืžืฉืขืžืžืช ืื•ืชื™,
00:52
and I'm really bored with the role of the composer,
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ื•ืื ื™ ืžืžืฉ ืžืฉืชืขืžื ืžืชืคืงื™ื“ ื”ืžืœื—ื™ืŸ,
00:55
and so I decided to put that idea, boredom,
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ืื– ื”ื—ืœื˜ืชื™ ืœืฉื™ื ืืช ื”ืจืขื™ื•ืŸ ื”ื–ื” ืฉืœ ื”ืฉืขืžื•ื
00:58
as the focus of my presentation to you today.
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ื‘ืžืจื›ื– ื”ื”ืจืฆืื” ืฉืืชืŸ ืœื›ื ื”ื™ื•ื.
01:01
And I'm going to share my music with you, but I hope
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ื•ื‘ื ื•ืกืฃ, ืืฉืชืฃ ืืชื›ื ื‘ืžื•ืกื™ืงื” ืฉืœื™, ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™ ืžืงื•ื•ื”
01:03
that I'm going to do so in a way that tells a story,
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ืœืขืฉื•ืช ื–ืืช ื‘ื“ืจืš ืฉืชืกืคืจ ืกื™ืคื•ืจ ืžืกื•ื™ื:
01:05
tells a story about how I used boredom as a catalyst
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ืื™ืš ื ื™ืฆืœืชื™ ืืช ื”ืฉืขืžื•ื ื›ื–ืจื–
01:09
for creativity and invention, and how boredom
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ืœื™ืฆื™ืจืชื™ื•ืช ื•ืœื—ื“ืฉื ื•ืช, ื•ืื™ืš ื”ืฉืขืžื•ื
01:11
actually forced me to change the fundamental question
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ื‘ืขืฆื ืื™ืœืฅ ืื•ืชื™ ืœื”ื—ืœื™ืฃ ืืช ืฉืืœืช ื”ื™ืกื•ื“
01:14
that I was asking in my discipline,
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ืฉืื ื™ ืฉื•ืืœ ืืช ืขืฆืžื™ ื‘ืชื—ื•ื ืฉืœื™,
01:17
and how boredom also, in a sense,
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ื•ื›ื™ืฆื“ ื”ืฉืขืžื•ื, ื‘ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ืžืกื•ื™ื,
01:19
pushed me towards taking on roles beyond the sort of
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ื’ื ื“ื•ื—ืฃ ืื•ืชื™ ืœืงื—ืช ืขืœ ืขืฆืžื™ ืชืคืงื™ื“ื™ื ืฉื”ื ืžืขื‘ืจ
01:23
most traditional, narrow definition of a composer.
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ืœื”ื’ื“ืจื” ื”ืžืกื•ืจืชื™ืช ื•ื”ืฆืจื” ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ ืฉืœ ืชืคืงื™ื“ ื”ืžืœื—ื™ืŸ.
01:26
What I'd like to do today is to start with an excerpt
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ื”ื™ื•ื ื‘ืจืฆื•ื ื™ ืœื”ืชื—ื™ืœ ืขื ืžื•ื‘ืื”
01:28
of a piece of music at the piano.
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ืžืชื•ืš ืงื˜ืข ืžื•ืกื™ืงืœื™ ืœืคืกื ืชืจ.
01:31
(Music)
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[ืžื•ืกื™ืงื”]
01:40
Okay, I wrote that. (Laughter)
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ื˜ื•ื‘. ืื ื™ ื›ืชื‘ืชื™ ืืช ื–ื”. [ืฆื—ื•ืง]
01:44
No, it's not โ€” (Applause) Oh, why thank you.
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ืœื, ื–ื” ืœื--[ืžื—ื™ืื•ืช ื›ืคื™ื™ื] ื”ื•, ื‘ืืžืช ืชื•ื“ื” ืจื‘ื”.
01:46
No, no, I didn't write that.
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ืœื, ืœื, ืœื ืื ื™ ื›ืชื‘ืชื™ ืืช ื–ื”.
01:47
In fact, that was a piece by Beethoven,
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ืœืžืขืฉื” ื–ื”ื• ืงื˜ืข ืžืืช ื‘ื˜ื”ื•ื‘ืŸ,
01:49
and so I was not functioning as a composer.
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ื›ืš ืฉืœื ืชื™ืคืงื“ืชื™ ื›ืืŸ ื›ืžืœื—ื™ืŸ.
01:52
Just now I was functioning in the role of the interpreter,
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ื›ืจื’ืข ืชื™ืคืงื“ืชื™ ื›ืžืคืจืฉ,
01:55
and there I am, interpreter.
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ื–ื” ืื ื™, ื”ืžืคืจืฉ.
01:57
So, an interpreter of what? Of a piece of music, right?
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ืžืคืจืฉ ืฉืœ ืžื”? ืฉืœ ืงื˜ืข ืžื•ืกื™ืงืœื™, ื ื›ื•ืŸ?
02:00
But we can ask the question, "But is it music?"
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ืืš ืื ื• ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœืฉืื•ืœ, "ื”ืื ื–ื• ืžื•ืกื™ืงื”?"
02:04
And I say this rhetorically, because of course
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ื–ืืช ืฉืืœื” ืจื˜ื•ืจื™ืช, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ,
02:06
by just about any standard we would have to concede
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ื›ื™ ืœืคื™ ื›ืœ ืงื ื”-ืžื™ื“ื” ืขืœื™ื ื• ืœื”ืกื™ืง
02:09
that this is, of course, a piece of music,
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ืฉื–ื”ื• ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ืงื˜ืข ืžื•ืกื™ืงืœื™,
02:11
but I put this here now because,
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ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™ ืฉื•ืืœ ืฉืืœื” ื–ื• ื›ืขืช
02:13
just to set it in your brains for the moment,
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ืจืง ื›ื“ื™ ืฉืชื–ื›ืจื• ืื•ืชื”
02:15
because we're going to return to this question.
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ื›ื™ ืขื•ื“ ืื—ื–ื•ืจ ืืœื™ื”.
02:17
It's going to be a kind of a refrain
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ื–ื” ื™ื”ื™ื” ืžื™ืŸ ืคื–ืžื•ืŸ ื—ื•ื–ืจ
02:19
as we go through the presentation.
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ื‘ื”ืžืฉืš ื”ื”ืจืฆืื”.
02:21
So here we have this piece of music by Beethoven,
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ืื– ื™ืฉ ืœื ื• ืงื˜ืข ืžืืช ื‘ื˜ื”ื•ื‘ืŸ,
02:23
and my problem with it is, it's boring.
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ื•ื”ื‘ืขื™ื” ืฉืœื™ ืื™ืชื• ื”ื™ื, ืฉื”ื•ื ืžืฉืขืžื.
02:26
I mean, you โ€” I'm just like, a hush, huh -- It's like -- (Laughter)
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ื›ืœื•ืžืจ-- ืื ื™ ื›ืื™ืœื•-- ื–ื” ื›ืžื•-- [ืฆื—ื•ืง]
02:33
It's Beethoven, how can you say that?
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ื–ื” ื‘ื˜ื”ื•ื‘ืŸ! ืื™ืš ืืชื” ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ื’ื™ื“ ืืช ื–ื”?
02:35
No, well, I don't know, it's very familiar to me.
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ื ื•, ื˜ื•ื‘, ืื ื™ ืœื ื™ื•ื“ืข. ื–ื” ืžืื“ ืžื•ื›ืจ ืœื™.
02:36
I had to practice it as a kid, and I'm really sick of it. So -- (Laughter)
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ื”ื™ื” ืขืœื™ ืœืชืจื’ืœ ืื•ืชื• ื›ื™ืœื“, ื•ืžืžืฉ ื ืžืืก ืœื™ ืžืžื ื•-- [ืฆื—ื•ืง]
02:39
I would, so what I might like to try to do is to change it,
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ืื– ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื ืกื•ืช ืœืฉื ื•ืช ืื•ืชื•,
02:42
to transform it in some ways, to personalize it,
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ืœืฉื ื•ืช ืื•ืชื• ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ืžืกื•ื™ื, ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืื•ืชื• ืื™ืฉื™ ื™ื•ืชืจ,
02:45
so I might take the opening, like this idea --
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ืื– ืื ืืงื— ืืช ื”ืคืชื™ื—ื”, ืœืžืฉืœ ื”ืจืขื™ื•ืŸ ื”ื–ื”--
02:47
(Music)
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[ืžื•ืกื™ืงื”]
02:49
and then I might substitute -- (Music)
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ื•ื‘ืžืงื•ื ื–ื” ืืขืฉื”-- [ืžื•ืกื™ืงื”]
02:54
and then I might improvise on that melody
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ื•ืื– ืืืœืชืจ ืงืฆืช ืขืœ ื”ืžื ื’ื™ื ื”
02:56
that goes forward from there -- (Music)
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ืฉืžืžืฉื™ื›ื” ืžืฉื-- [ืžื•ืกื™ืงื”]
02:59
(Music)
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[ืžื•ืกื™ืงื”]
03:26
So that might be the kind of thing -- Why thank you.
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ืื– ื–ื” ื™ื”ื™ื” ืžืฉื”ื• ื›ื–ื”-- ืชื•ื“ื” ืจื‘ื”.
03:29
(Applause)
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[ืžื—ื™ืื•ืช ื›ืคื™ื™ื]
03:32
That would be the kind of thing that I would do,
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ืื ื™ ืืขืฉื” ืžื™ืŸ ืžืฉื”ื• ื›ื–ื”,
03:34
and it's not necessarily better than the Beethoven.
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ื•ื–ื” ืœื ื‘ื”ื›ืจื— ื™ื”ื™ื” ื˜ื•ื‘ ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžื”ืงื˜ืข ืฉืœ ื‘ื˜ื”ื•ื‘ืŸ.
03:36
In fact, I think it's not better than it. The thing is -- (Laughter) --
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ื‘ืขืฆื, ื ืจืื” ืœื™ ืฉื–ื” ืœื ื˜ื•ื‘ ื™ื•ืชืจ. ื”ืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ื”ื•ื-- [ืฆื—ื•ืง]
03:40
it's more interesting to me. It's less boring for me.
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ื–ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ื‘ืขื™ื ื™. ื–ื” ืคื—ื•ืช ืžืฉืขืžื ืื•ืชื™.
03:45
I'm really leaning into me, because I, because I have
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ื–ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืชืื™ื ืœื™, ืžื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉืขืœื™
03:49
to think about what decisions I'm going to make on the fly
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ืœื—ืฉื•ื‘ ืขืœ ื”ื”ื—ืœื˜ื•ืช ืฉืืงื‘ืœ ืชื•ืš ื›ื“ื™ ื”ื‘ื™ืฆื•ืข
03:52
as that Beethoven text is running in time through my head
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ื‘ืขื•ื“ ื”ื˜ืงืกื˜ ืฉืœ ื‘ื˜ื”ื•ื‘ืŸ ืขื•ื‘ืจ ืœื™ ื‘ืจืืฉ ื‘ืžืงื‘ื™ืœ
03:55
and I'm trying to figure out what kinds of transformations
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ื•ืื ื™ ืžื ืกื” ืœืžืฆื•ื ืื™ืœื• ืžื™ืŸ ืฉื™ื ื•ื™ื™ื
03:58
I'm going to make to it.
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ืืขืฉื” ืœื•.
03:59
So this is an engaging enterprise for me, and
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ื›ืš ืฉื‘ืขื™ื ื™ ื–ื• ืžืฉื™ืžื” ืžืจืชืงืช,
04:02
I've really leaned into that first person pronoun thing there,
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ื•ื‘ืืžืช ื ื›ื ืกืชื™ ืœืชื•ืš ื›ื™ื ื•ื™ ื”ื’ื•ืฃ ื”ืจืืฉื•ืŸ ื”ื–ื”,
04:06
and now my face appears twice, so I think we can agree
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ื•ื›ืขืช ืคืจืฆื•ืคื™ ืžื•ืคื™ืข ืคืขืžื™ื™ื, ืื– ืื•ืœื™ ื ื•ื›ืœ ืœื”ืกื›ื™ื
04:09
that this is a fundamentally solipsistic enterprise. (Laughter)
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ืฉื–ื• ืžืฉื™ืžื” ืกื•ืœื™ืคืกื™ืกื˜ื™ืช ื‘ื™ืกื•ื“ื”. [ืฆื—ื•ืง]
04:12
But it's an engaging one, and it's interesting to me
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ืื‘ืœ ื”ื™ื ืžืจืชืงืช ื•ืžืขื ื™ื™ื ืช ื‘ืขื™ื ื™
04:15
for a while, but then I get bored with it, and by it,
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ืœื–ืžืŸ-ืžื”, ื•ืื—ืจ ืื ื™ ืžืฉืชืขืžื ืžืžื ื”, ื•ื‘ืžืžื ื”,
04:17
I actually mean, the piano, because it becomes,
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ืื ื™ ืœืžืขืฉื” ืžืชื›ื•ื•ืŸ, ื”ืคืกื ืชืจ, ื‘ื’ืœืœ ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื•ืคืš ืœื”ื™ื•ืช
04:20
it's this familiar instrument, it's timbral range is actually
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ื›ืœื™-ื ื’ื™ื ื” ืžื•ื›ืจ, ื˜ื•ื•ื— ื”ืงื•ืœื•ืช ืฉืœื• ื‘ืขืฆื
04:23
pretty compressed, at least when you play on the keyboard,
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ื“ื™ ื“ื—ื•ืก, ืœืคื—ื•ืช ื›ืฉืžื ื’ื ื™ื ืขืœ ื”ืงืœื™ื“ื™ื,
04:26
and if you're not doing things like listening to it
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ื•ืื ืœื ืขื•ืฉื™ื ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื›ืžื• ืœื”ืื–ื™ืŸ ืœื•
04:28
after you've lit it on fire or something like that, you know.
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ืื—ืจื™ ืฉืžืขืœื™ื ืื•ืชื• ื‘ืืฉ ืื• ืžืฉื”ื• ื›ื–ื”,
04:31
It gets a little bit boring, and so pretty soon
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ื–ื” ื ืขืฉื” ืžืขื˜ ืžืฉืขืžื, ื•ื“ื™ ืžื”ืจ
04:33
I go through other instruments, they become familiar,
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ืื ื™ ืขื•ื‘ืจ ืœื›ืœื™ื ืื—ืจื™ื, ื•ื”ื ื ืขืฉื™ื ืžื•ื›ืจื™ื,
04:35
and eventually I find myself designing and constructing
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ื•ื‘ืกื•ืคื• ืฉืœ ื“ื‘ืจ ืื ื™ ืžื•ืฆื ืขืฆืžื™ ืžืชื›ื ืŸ ื•ื‘ื•ื ื”
04:38
my own instrument, and I brought one with me today,
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ื›ืœื™-ื ื’ื™ื ื” ืžืฉืœื™, ื•ื”ื‘ืืชื™ ืื™ืชื™ ืื—ื“ ื›ื–ื”,
04:42
and I thought I would play a little bit on it for you
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ื—ืฉื‘ืชื™ ืœื ื’ืŸ ืขืœื™ื• ืžืขื˜ ืขื‘ื•ืจื›ื
04:45
so you can hear what it sounds like.
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ื›ื“ื™ ืฉืชืฉืžืขื• ืืช ื”ืฆืœื™ืœ ืฉืœื•.
04:47
(Music)
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[ืžื•ืกื™ืงื”]
04:59
You gotta have doorstops, that's important. (Laughter)
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ื—ืฉื•ื‘ ืฉื™ื”ื™ื• ืžืขืฆื•ืจื™ ื“ืœืช. [ืฆื—ื•ืง]
05:04
I've got combs. They're the only combs that I own. (Music)
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ื™ืฉ ืœื™ ืžืกืจืงื™ื. ืืœื” ื”ืžืกืจืงื™ื ื”ื™ื—ื™ื“ื™ื ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื™. [ืžื•ืกื™ืงื”]
05:07
They're all mounted on my instruments. (Laughter)
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ื›ื•ืœื ืžื•ืจื›ื‘ื™ื ืขืœ ื”ื›ืœื™ ืฉืœื™. [ืฆื—ื•ืง]
05:11
(Music)
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[ืžื•ืกื™ืงื”]
05:20
I can actually do all sorts of things. I can play
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ืื ื™ ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœืขืฉื•ืช ื›ืœ ืžื™ื ื™ ื“ื‘ืจื™ื. ืื ื™ ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื ื’ืŸ
05:22
with a violin bow. I don't have to use the chopsticks.
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ืขื ืงืฉืช ืฉืœ ื›ื™ื ื•ืจ. ืื ื™ ืœื ื—ื™ื™ื‘ ืœื”ืฉืชืžืฉ ื‘ืžืงืœื•ืช ื”ืื›ื™ืœื”.
05:25
So we have this sound. (Music)
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ืื– ื™ืฉ ืœื ื• ื”ืฆืœื™ืœ ื”ื–ื”. [ืžื•ืกื™ืงื”]
05:33
And with a bank of live electronics,
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ื•ืขื ืงืฆืช ืืœืงื˜ืจื•ื ื™ืงื”,
05:35
I can change the sounds radically. (Music)
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ืื ื™ ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœืฉื ื•ืช ืืช ื”ืฆืœื™ืœื™ื ื‘ืงื™ืฆื•ื ื™ื•ืช. [ืžื•ืกื™ืงื”]
05:39
(Music)
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[ืžื•ืกื™ืงื”]
05:48
Like that, and like this. (Music)
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ื›ืš, ื•ื›ืš. [ืžื•ืกื™ืงื”]
05:54
And so forth.
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ื•ื›ืŸ ื”ืœืื”.
05:56
So this gives you a little bit of an idea of the sound world
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ืื– ื–ื” ื ื•ืชืŸ ืœื›ื ืžื•ืฉื’ ืขืœ ืขื•ืœื ื”ืฆืœื™ืœื™ื
05:58
of this instrument, which I think is quite interesting
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ืฉืœ ื›ืœื™ ื”ื ื’ื™ื ื” ื”ื–ื”, ืฉื‘ืขื™ื ื™ ื”ื•ื ืžืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ืœืžื“ื™
06:01
and it puts me in the role of the inventor, and the nice thing about โ€”
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ื•ื–ื” ืฉื ืื•ืชื™ ื‘ืชืคืงื™ื“ ื”ืžืžืฆื™ื, ื•ืžื” ืฉื ื—ืžื“ ื‘ื–ื”--
06:05
This instrument is called the Mouseketeer ... (Laughter)
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ื”ื›ืœื™ ื”ื–ื” ื ืงืจื "ื”ืขื›ื‘ืจ ื”ืžื•ืกืงื™ื˜ืจ"... [ืฆื—ื•ืง]
06:08
and the cool thing about it is
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ื•ืžื” ืฉืžื’ื ื™ื‘ ื‘ื• ื”ื•ื,
06:10
I'm the world's greatest Mouseketeer player. (Laughter)
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ืฉืื ื™ ื ื’ืŸ ื”ืขื›ื‘ืจ ื”ืžื•ืกืงื™ื˜ืจ ื”ื›ื™ ื˜ื•ื‘ ื‘ืขื•ืœื. [ืฆื—ื•ืง]
06:14
Okay? (Applause)
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ื‘ืกื“ืจ? [ืžื—ื™ืื•ืช ื›ืคื™ื™ื]
06:15
So in that regard, this is one of the things,
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ื‘ื”ืงืฉืจ ื–ื”, ื–ื”ื• ืื—ื“ ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื,
06:19
this is one of the privileges of being,
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ื–ื” ืื—ื“ ื”ื™ืชืจื•ื ื•ืช ืฉืœ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช --
06:20
and here's another role, the inventor, and by the way,
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ื•ื–ื”ื• ืชืคืงื™ื“ ื ื•ืกืฃ-- ื”ืžืžืฆื™ื. ื•ื“ืจืš ืื’ื‘,
06:23
when I told you that I'm the world's greatest,
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ื›ืฉืืžืจืชื™ ืฉืื ื™ ื”ื›ื™ ื˜ื•ื‘ ื‘ืขื•ืœื,
06:26
if you're keeping score, we've had narcissism and solipsism
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ืื ืืชื ืขื•ืฉื™ื ื—ืฉื‘ื•ืŸ, ื”ื™ื• ืœื ื• ื ืจืงื™ืกื™ื–ื ื•ืกื•ืœื™ืคืกื™ืกื–ื
06:30
and now a healthy dose of egocentricism.
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ื•ื›ืขืช ื’ื ืžื ื” ื’ื“ื•ืฉื” ืฉืœ ืื’ื•ืฆื ื˜ืจื™ื•ืช.
06:32
I know some of you are just, you know, bingo! Or, I don't know. (Laughter)
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ืื ื™ ื™ื•ื“ืข ืฉืื—ื“ื™ื ืžื‘ื™ื ื™ื›ื ื—ื•ืฉื‘ื™ื, ื™ืฉ! ื‘ืขืฆื, ืื ื™ ืœื ื™ื•ื“ืข. [ืฆื—ื•ืง]
06:35
Anyway, so this is also a really enjoyable role.
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ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ, ื–ื” ื’ื ืชืคืงื™ื“ ืžื”ื ื” ืžืื“.
06:41
I should concede also that I'm the world's worst Mouseketeer player,
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ืขืœื™ ืœื”ื•ืกื™ืฃ ืฉืื ื™ ื’ื ื ื’ืŸ ื”ืขื›ื‘ืจ ื”ืžื•ืกืงื™ื˜ืจ ื”ื’ืจื•ืข ื‘ืขื•ืœื,
06:43
and it was this distinction that I was most worried about
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ื•ืžื”ื”ื’ื“ืจื” ื”ื–ื• ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื”ื›ื™ ืžื•ื“ืื’
06:46
when I was on that prior side of the tenure divide.
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ื›ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื‘ืฆื“ ื”ืงื•ื“ื ืฉืœ ื”ืงื‘ื™ืขื•ืช.
06:49
I'm glad I'm past that. We're not going to go into that.
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ืื ื™ ืฉืžื— ืฉืขื‘ืจืชื™ ืืช ื–ื”. ืœื ื ื™ื›ื ืก ืœื–ื”.
06:51
I'm crying on the inside. There are still scars.
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ืื ื™ ื‘ื•ื›ื” ืžื‘ืคื ื™ื. ื™ืฉ ืขื“ื™ื™ืŸ ืฆืœืงื•ืช.
06:54
Anyway, but I guess my point is that all of these enterprises
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ืื‘ืœ ื”ื ืงื•ื“ื” ืฉืœื™ ื”ื™ื ืฉื›ืœ ื”ืžืฉื™ืžื•ืช ื”ืืœื”
06:58
are engaging to me in their multiplicity, but as I've presented them
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ืžืจืชืงื•ืช ืื•ืชื™ ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ืช ื”ื›ืžื•ืช, ืืš ื›ืคื™ ืฉื”ืฆื’ืชื™ ืื•ืชืŸ ืœื›ื
07:02
to you today, they're actually solitary enterprises,
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ื”ืŸ ืœืžืขืฉื” ืžืฉื™ืžื•ืช ืžื‘ื•ื“ื“ื•ืช,
07:05
and so pretty soon I want to commune with other people, and so
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ื•ืœื›ืŸ ืžื”ืจ ืžืื“ ืจืฆื™ืชื™ ืœื”ืชื—ื‘ืจ ืœืื ืฉื™ื ืื—ืจื™ื
07:08
I'm delighted that in fact I get to compose works for them.
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ืื– ืื ื™ ืฉืžื— ืฉืœืžืขืฉื” ืื ื™ ื–ื•ื›ื” ืœื”ืœื—ื™ืŸ ืขื‘ื•ืจื.
07:11
I get to write, sometimes for soloists and I get to work with one person,
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ืื ื™ ื–ื•ื›ื” ืœื›ืชื•ื‘, ืœืขืชื™ื ืขื‘ื•ืจ ืกื•ืœื ื™ื ื•ืื ื™ ื–ื•ื›ื” ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ ืขื ืื“ื ื™ื—ื™ื“,
07:14
sometimes full orchestras, and I work with a lot of people,
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ืœืขืชื™ื ืชื–ืžื•ืจืช ืฉืœืžื”, ื•ืื ื™ ืขื•ื‘ื“ ืขื ื”ืžื•ืŸ ืื ืฉื™ื,
07:17
and this is probably the capacity, the role creatively
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ื•ืื•ืœื™ ื–ื• ื”ื™ื›ื•ืœืช, ื”ืชืคืงื™ื“ ื”ื™ืฆื™ืจืชื™,
07:21
for which I'm probably best known professionally.
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ืฉื”ื•ื“ื•ืช ืœื• ืื ื™ ื”ื›ื™ ืžืคื•ืจืกื ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ืžืงืฆื•ืขื™ืช.
07:24
Now, some of my scores as a composer look like this,
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ื—ืœืง ืžื”ืชื›ืœื™ืœื™ื ืฉืœื™ ื›ืžืœื—ื™ืŸ ื ืจืื™ื ื›ื›ื”,
07:27
and others look like this,
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ื•ืื—ืจื™ื ื ืจืื™ื ื›ื›ื”,
07:29
and some look like this,
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ื•ื™ืฉ ืฉื ืจืื™ื ื›ื›ื”,
07:31
and I make all of these by hand, and it's really tedious.
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ื•ืืช ื›ื•ืœื ืื ื™ ื›ื•ืชื‘ ื‘ื™ื“, ื•ื–ื” ื‘ืืžืช ืžืขื™ื™ืฃ.
07:34
It takes a long, long time to make these scores,
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ื ื“ืจืฉ ื”ืžื•ืŸ ื”ืžื•ืŸ ื–ืžืŸ ืœื›ืชื•ื‘ ืืช ื”ืชื›ืœื™ืœื™ื ื”ืืœื”,
07:36
and right now I'm working on a piece
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ื•ื›ืจื’ืข ืื ื™ ืขื•ื‘ื“ ืขืœ ื™ืฆื™ืจื”
07:38
that's 180 pages in length,
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ืฉืื•ืจื›ื” 180 ืขืžื•ื“ื™ื,
07:40
and it's just a big chunk of my life, and I'm just pulling out hair.
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ื•ื–ื” ืคืฉื•ื˜ ื—ืœืง ื’ื“ื•ืœ ืžื—ื™ื™, ื•ืื ื™ ืžืžืฉ ืชื•ืœืฉ ืืช ื”ืฉืขืจื•ืช.
07:45
I have a lot of it, and that's a good thing I suppose. (Laughter)
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ื™ืฉ ืœื™ ื”ืจื‘ื”, ืฉืื ื™ ืžื ื™ื— ืฉื–ื” ื˜ื•ื‘.[ืฆื—ื•ืง]
07:47
So this gets really boring and really tiresome for me,
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ืื– ื–ื” ื ืขืฉื” ื‘ืืžืช ืžืฉืขืžื ื•ืžืขื™ื™ืฃ ืขื‘ื•ืจื™,
07:51
so after a while the process of notating is not only boring,
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ื•ืื—ืจื™ ื–ืžืŸ-ืžื” ืชื”ืœื™ืš ื›ืชื™ื‘ืช ื”ืชื•ื•ื™ื ืœื ืจืง ืžืฉืขืžื,
07:54
but I actually want the notation to be more interesting,
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ืืœื ื’ื ื’ื•ืจื ืœื™ ืœืจืฆื•ืช ืฉื”ื•ื ื™ื”ื™ื” ืžืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ื™ื•ืชืจ,
07:57
and so that's pushed me to do other projects like this one.
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ื•ื–ื” ื“ื—ืฃ ืื•ืชื™ ืœืžื™ื–ืžื™ื ื›ืžื• ื–ื”.
08:00
This is an excerpt from a score called
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ื–ื”ื• ืงื˜ืข ืžืชื›ืœื™ืœ ื‘ืฉื
08:02
"The Metaphysics of Notation."
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"ื”ืžื˜ืคื™ื–ื™ืงื” ืฉืœ ื›ืชื™ื‘ืช ื”ืชื•ื•ื™ื."
08:04
The full score is 72 feet wide.
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ืจื•ื—ื‘ ื”ืชื›ืœื™ืœ ื”ืžืœื ื”ื•ื 21 ืžื˜ืจื™ื.
08:07
It's a bunch of crazy pictographic notation.
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ื–ื”ื• ืื•ืกืฃ ืžื˜ื•ืจืฃ ืฉืœ ืชื•ื•ื™ื ืฆื™ื•ืจื™ื™ื.
08:09
Let's zoom in on one section of it right here. You can see
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ื”ื‘ื” ื ื‘ืฆืข ืชืงืจื™ื‘ ืขืœ ื—ืœืง ืžืžื ื• ื›ืืŸ. ืืชื ืจื•ืื™ื
08:12
it's rather detailed. I do all of this with drafting templates,
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ืฉื–ื” ื“ื™ ืžืคื•ืจื˜. ืื ื™ ืขื•ืฉื” ืืช ื›ืœ ื–ื” ื‘ืขื–ืจืช ืฉื‘ืœื•ื ื•ืช,
08:16
with straight edges, with French curves, and by freehand,
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ืขื ื•ื•ื™ื ื™ืฉืจื™ื, ืขื ืขื™ืงื•ืœื™ื ืฆืจืคืชื™ื™ื, ื•ื‘ื™ื“ ื—ื•ืคืฉื™ืช,
08:20
and the 72 feet was actually split
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ื•-21 ื”ืžื˜ืจื™ื ื‘ืขืฆื ืคื•ืฆืœื•
08:22
into 12 six-foot-wide panels that were installed
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ืœ-12 ืœื•ื—ื•ืช ื‘ืจื•ื—ื‘ 2 ืžื˜ืจื™ื ืฉื”ื•ืชืงื ื•
08:25
around the Cantor Arts Center Museum lobby balcony,
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ื‘ืžื‘ื•ืืช ื”ืžืจืคืกืช ืฉืœ ืžื•ื–ื™ืื•ืŸ "ืžืจื›ื– ื”ืืžื ื•ื™ื•ืช ืข"ืฉ ืงื ื˜ื•ืจ",
08:30
and it appeared for one year in the museum,
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ื•ื–ื” ื”ื•ืฆื’ ื‘ืžื•ื–ื™ืื•ืŸ ื‘ืžืฉืš ืฉื ื” ืื—ืช,
08:34
and during that year, it was experienced as visual art
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ื•ื‘ืžืฉืš ืื•ืชื” ืฉื ื” ื–ื” ื ื—ื•ื•ื” ื›ืืžื ื•ืช ื—ื–ื•ืชื™ืช
08:37
most of the week, except, as you can see in these pictures,
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ื‘ืจื•ื‘ ื™ืžื™ ื”ืฉื‘ื•ืข, ืคืจื˜ ืœื™ืžื™ ืฉื™ืฉื™, ื›ืคื™ ืฉืืชื ืจื•ืื™ื ื‘ืชืžื•ื ื•ืช,
08:39
on Fridays, from noon til one, and only during that time,
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ืžื”ืฆื”ืจื™ื™ื ื•ืขื“ ืื—ืช, ื•ืจืง ืื–
08:42
various performers came and interpreted these strange
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ื‘ืื• ื ื’ื ื™ื ืฉื•ื ื™ื ื•ืคื™ืจืฉื•
08:45
and undefined pictographic glyphs. (Laughter)
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ืืช ื›ืชื‘ ื”ื—ืจื˜ื•ืžื™ื ื”ืฆื™ื•ืจื™ ื•ื”ื‘ืœืชื™-ืžื•ื’ื“ืจ ื”ื–ื”. [ืฆื—ื•ืง]
08:48
Now this was a really exciting experience for me.
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ื–ื• ื”ื™ืชื” ื‘ืืžืช ื—ื•ื•ื™ื” ืžืจื’ืฉืช ืขื‘ื•ืจื™.
08:52
It was gratifying musically, but I think
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ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžืกืคืง ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ืžื•ืกื™ืงืœื™ืช, ืื‘ืœ ื ืจืื” ืœื™
08:54
the more important thing is it was exciting because I got to take on
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ืฉื—ืฉื•ื‘ ื™ื•ืชืจ ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžืจื’ืฉ ื›ื™ ื–ื›ื™ืชื™ ืœืžืœื
08:56
another role, especially given that it appeared in a museum,
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ืชืคืงื™ื“ ื ื•ืกืฃ, ื‘ืžื™ื•ื—ื“ ืœืื•ืจ ื”ืขื•ื‘ื“ื” ืฉื–ื” ืžื•ืฆื’ ื‘ืžื•ื–ื™ืื•ืŸ,
08:59
and that is as visual artist. (Laughter)
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ื”ืœื ื”ื•ื ืชืคืงื™ื“ ื”ืืžืŸ ื”ื—ื–ื•ืชื™. [ืฆื—ื•ืง]
09:03
We're going to fill up the whole thing, don't worry. (Laughter)
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ื ืžืœื ืืช ื”ื›ืœ. ืืœ ืชื“ืื’ื•. [ืฆื—ื•ืง]
09:05
I am multitudes. (Laughter)
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ืื ื™ ื”ืžื•ืŸ ืื ืฉื™ื. [ืฆื—ื•ืง]
09:07
So one of the things is that, I mean, some people
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ืื—ื“ ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื–ื” ืฉ... ืื ื™ ืžืชื›ื•ื•ืŸ, ื™ืฉ ืื ืฉื™ื
09:10
would say, like, "Oh, you're being a dilettante,"
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ืฉื™ื’ื™ื“ื•: "ืื”, ืืชื” ื—ื•ื‘ื‘,"
09:12
and maybe that's true. I can understand how, I mean,
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ื•ืื•ืœื™ ื–ื” ื ื›ื•ืŸ, ืื ื™ ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ื‘ื™ืŸ ืื™ืš, ืื ื™ ืžืชื›ื•ื•ืŸ,
09:14
because I don't have a pedigree in visual art
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ืื™ืŸ ืœื™ ื™ื™ื—ื•ืก ื‘ืืžื ื•ืช ื—ื–ื•ืชื™ืช
09:16
and I don't have any training, but it's just something
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ื•ืื™ืŸ ืœื™ ืฉื•ื ื”ื›ืฉืจื”, ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ืžืฉื”ื•
09:18
that I wanted to do as an extension of my composition,
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ืฉืจืฆื™ืชื™ ืœืขืฉื•ืช ื›ื”ืจื—ื‘ื” ืฉืœ ื”ื™ืฆื™ืจื” ืฉืœื™,
09:21
as an extension of a kind of creative impulse.
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ื›ื”ืจื—ื‘ื” ืฉืœ ืกื•ื’ ืฉืœ ื“ื—ืฃ ื™ืฆื™ืจืชื™.
09:24
I can understand the question, though. "But is it music?"
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ืื ื™ ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ื‘ื™ืŸ ืืช ื”ืฉืืœื”, "ืื‘ืœ ื”ืื ื–ืืช ืžื•ื–ื™ืงื”?"
09:27
I mean, there's not any traditional notation.
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ืื ื™ ืžืชื›ื•ื•ืŸ, ืื™ืŸ ืœื™ ืชื•ื•ื™ื.
09:29
I can also understand that sort of implicit criticism
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ืื ื™ ื’ื ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ื‘ื™ืŸ ืืช ื”ืกื•ื’ ื”ื–ื” ืฉืœ ื‘ื™ืงื•ืจืช ืฉืžืฉืชืžืขืช
09:31
in this piece, "S-tog," which I made when I was living in Copenhagen.
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ื‘ืงื˜ืข ื”ื–ื”, "S-tog", ืฉื™ืฆืจืชื™ ื›ืืฉืจ ื’ืจืชื™ ื‘ืงื•ืคื ื”ืื’ืŸ.
09:35
I took the Copenhagen subway map and
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ืœืงื—ืชื™ ืืช ืžืคืช ื”ืจื›ื‘ืช ื”ืชื—ืชื™ืช ืฉืœ ืงื•ืคื ื”ืื’ืŸ
09:37
I renamed all the stations to abstract musical provocations,
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ื•ืฉื™ื ื™ืชื™ ืืช ื”ืฉืžื•ืช ืฉืœ ื›ืœ ื”ืชื—ื ื•ืช ืœื”ืกืชื•ืช ืžื•ื–ื™ืงืœื™ื•ืช ืื‘ืกื˜ืจืงื˜ื™ื•ืช,
09:40
and the players, who are synchronized with stopwatches,
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ื•ื”ื ื’ื ื™ื, ืฉืžืกื•ื ื›ืจื ื™ื ื‘ืขื–ืจืช ืกื˜ื•ืคืจื™ื,
09:43
follow the timetables, which are listed in minutes past the hour.
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ืขื•ืงื‘ื™ื ืื—ืจ ืœื•ื—ื•ืช ื”ื–ืžื ื™ื, ืฉื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื ื›ื“ืงื•ืช ืื—ืจื™ ืฉืขื” ืฉืœืžื”.
09:46
So this is a case of actually adapting something,
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ื–ื” ืœืžืขืฉื” ื ืกื™ื•ืŸ ืœืกื’ืœ ืžืฉื”ื•,
09:49
or maybe stealing something,
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ืื• ืื•ืœื™ ืœื’ื ื•ื‘ ืžืฉื”ื•,
09:51
and then turning it into a musical notation.
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ื•ืœื”ืคื•ืš ืื•ืชื• ืœืกื™ืžืŸ ืžื•ืกื™ืงืœื™.
09:53
Another adaptation would be this piece.
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ืฉื™ืžื•ืฉ ื“ื•ืžื” ืืคืฉืจ ืœืจืื•ืช ื‘ืงื˜ืข ื”ื–ื”.
09:55
I took the idea of the wristwatch, and I turned it into a musical score.
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ืœืงื—ืชื™ ืืช ื”ืจืขื™ื• ืฉืœ ืฉืขื•ืŸ ื™ื“, ื•ื”ืคื›ืชื™ ืื•ืชื• ืœืชื›ืœื™ืœ.
09:58
I made my own faces, and had a company fabricate them,
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ื”ื›ื ืชื™ ืคื ื™ื ืฉืœ ืขืฆืžื™ ื•ื ืชืชื™ ืœื—ื‘ืจื” ืœื™ื™ืฆืจ ืื•ืชื,
10:02
and the players follow these scores.
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ื•ื”ื ื’ื ื™ื ืขื•ืงื‘ื™ื ืื—ืจ ื”ืชื•ื•ื™ื ื”ืœืœื•.
10:04
They follow the second hands, and as they pass over
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ื”ื ืขื•ืงื‘ื™ื ืื—ืจ ืžื—ื•ื’ ื”ืฉื ื™ื•ืช, ื•ื›ืืฉืจ ื”ื ืขื•ื‘ืจื™ื
10:06
the various symbols, the players respond musically.
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ืžืขืœ ื”ืกื™ืžื ื™ื ื”ืฉื•ื ื™ื, ื”ื ืžื’ื™ื‘ื™ื ื‘ืฆื•ืจื” ืžื•ื–ื™ืงืœื™ืช.
10:09
Here's another example from another piece,
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ื”ื ื” ื“ื•ื’ืžื ื ื•ืกืคืช ืžืงื˜ืข ืื—ืจ,
10:11
and then its realization.
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ื•ื”ื”ื’ืฉืžื” ืฉืœื•.
10:13
So in these two capacities, I've been scavenger,
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ื‘ืฉื ื™ ื”ืชืคืงื™ื“ื™ื ื”ืœืœื•, ืื ื™ ืžืชื ื”ื’ ื›ืื•ื›ืœ ื ื‘ืœื•ืช,
10:16
in the sense of taking, like, the subway map, right,
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ื‘ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ืฉืœ ืœืงื—ืช, ืœืžืฉืœ, ืืช ืžืคืช ื”ืจื›ื‘ืช ื”ืชื—ืชื™ืช, ื ื›ื•ืŸ,
10:18
or thief maybe, and I've also been designer,
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ืื• ืื•ืœื™ ื’ื ื‘, ื’ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื‘ืชืคืงื™ื“ ืฉืœ ืžืขืฆื‘,
10:21
in the case of making the wristwatches.
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ื‘ืžืงืจื” ืฉืœ ื”ื›ื ืช ื”ืฉืขื•ื ื™ื.
10:23
And once again, this is, for me, interesting.
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ื•ืฉื•ื‘, ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœื™ ื–ื” ืžืื•ื“ ืžืขื ื™ื™ืŸ.
10:26
Another role that I like to take on is that of the performance artist.
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ืชืคืงื™ื“ ื ื•ืกืฃ ืฉืื ื™ ืื•ื”ื‘ ืœืงื—ืช ืขืœ ืขืฆืžื™ ื”ื•ื ืฉืœ ืืžืŸ ื‘ื”ื•ืคืขื”.
10:30
Some of my pieces have these kind of weird theatric elements,
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ื›ืžื” ืžื”ื™ืฆื™ืจื•ืช ืฉืœื™ ืžื›ื™ืœื•ืช ืืœืžื ื˜ื™ื ืชื™ืื˜ืจืœื™ื™ื ืžื•ื–ืจื™ื,
10:32
and I often perform them. I want to show you a clip
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ืฉื‘ื”ื ืื ื™ ืžืฉื—ืง ืœืคืขืžื™ื. ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื”ืจืื•ืช ืœื›ื ืกืจื˜ื•ืŸ
10:35
from a piece called "Echolalia."
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ืžื™ืฆื™ืจื” ืฉื ืงืจืืช "ืืงื•ืœืœื™ื”".
10:36
This is actually being performed by Brian McWhorter,
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ืœืžืขืฉื” ืžื™ ืฉืžืฉื—ืง ื‘ืงื˜ืข ื”ื•ื ื‘ืจื™ืืŸ ืžืง'ื•ื•ืจื˜ืจ,
10:39
who is an extraordinary performer.
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ืฉื”ื•ื ืžื‘ืฆืข ืžื“ื”ื™ื.
10:41
Let's watch a little bit of this, and please notice the instrumentation.
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ื‘ื•ืื• ื ืฆืคื” ื‘ื–ื” ืงืฆืช, ืฉื™ืžื• ืœื‘ ืœื›ืœื™ื.
10:44
(Music)
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[ืžื•ื–ื™ืงื”]
11:13
Okay, I hear you were laughing nervously because
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ืื•ืงื™ื™, ืื ื™ ืฉื•ืžืข ืฉืืชื ืฆื—ืงืชื ื‘ืขืฆื‘ื ื•ืช ื‘ื’ืœืœ
11:15
you too could hear that the drill was a little bit sharp,
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ืฉื’ื ืืชื ื™ื›ื•ืœืชื ืœืฉืžื•ืข ืฉื”ืžืงื“ื— ื˜ื™ืคื” ื—ื“,
11:17
the intonation was a little questionable. (Laughter)
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ื”ืื™ื ื˜ื•ื ืฆื™ื” ื”ื™ืชื” ืžืขื˜ ืžืคื•ืงืคืงืช. [ืฆื—ื•ืง]
11:19
Let's watch just another clip.
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ื‘ื•ืื• ื ืฆืคื” ื‘ืงืœื™ืค ื ื•ืกืฃ.
11:21
(Music)
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[ืžื•ื–ื™ืงื”]
11:32
You can see the mayhem continues, and there's, you know,
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ืืชื ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœืจืื•ืช ืฉื”ืžื”ื•ืžื” ื ืžืฉื›ืช, ื•ื™ืฉ, ืืชื ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ื,
11:34
there were no clarinets and trumpets
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ืœื ื”ื™ื• ื›ืœืœ ืงืœืจื™ื ื˜ื™ื, ื—ืฆื•ืฆืจื•ืช
11:36
and flutes and violins. Here's a piece that has
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ื—ืœื™ืœื™ื ื•ื›ื ื•ืจื•ืช. ื”ื ื” ืงื˜ืข ืฉื™ืฉ ื‘ื•
11:38
an even more unusual, more peculiar instrumentation.
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ืฉื™ืœื•ื‘ ื›ืœื™ื ืืคื™ืœื• ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ื•ืžื•ื–ืจ.
11:41
This is "Tlรถn," for three conductors and no players. (Laughter)
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ืงื•ืจืื™ื ืœืงื˜ืข "Tlรถn", ืขืœ ืฉืœื•ืฉื” ืžื ืฆื—ื™ื ืœืœื ื ื’ื ื™ื. [ืฆื—ื•ืง]
11:57
This was based on the experience of actually watching
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ื”ืงื˜ืข ืžื‘ื•ืกืก ืขืœ ื—ื•ื•ื™ื” ืฉืœ ืฆืคื™ื™ื”
11:59
two people having a virulent argument in sign language,
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ื‘ืฉื ื™ ืื ืฉื™ื ื‘ื•ื•ื™ื›ื•ื— ืกื•ืขืจ ื‘ืฉืคืช ื”ืกื™ืžื ื™ื,
12:02
which produced no decibels to speak of,
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ืฉืœื ืžืคื™ืงื” ื›ืœืœ ื“ืฆื™ื‘ืœื™ื,
12:03
but affectively, psychologically, was a very loud experience.
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ืื‘ืœ ื”ื”ืฉืคืขื” ื”ืžืขืฉื™ืช, ื”ืคืกื™ื›ื•ืœื•ื’ื™ืช, ื”ื™ื ื—ื•ื•ื™ื” ืžืื•ื“ ืจื•ืขืฉืช.
12:07
So, yeah, I get it, with, like, the weird appliances
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ื›ืŸ, ืื ื™ ืžื‘ื™ืŸ, ื”ืžื›ืฉื™ืจื™ื ื”ืžื•ื–ืจื™ื
12:10
and then the total absence of conventional instruments
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ื•ื”ื—ื•ืกืจ ื‘ื›ืœื™ ื ื’ื™ื ื” ืงื•ื ื‘ื ืฆื™ื•ื ืœื™ื
12:15
and this glut of conductors, people might, you know,
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ื•ื”ืฉืคืข ื”ื–ื” ืฉืœ ืžื ืฆื—ื™ื, ืื ืฉื™ื ืขืœื•ืœื™ื, ืืชื ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ื,
12:17
wonder, yeah, "Is this music?"
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ืœืชื”ื•ืช, "ื–ืืช ืžื•ื–ื™ืงื”?"
12:20
But let's move on to a piece where clearly I'm behaving myself,
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ืื‘ืœ ื‘ื•ืื• ื ืชืงื“ื ืœืงื˜ืข ืฉื‘ื• ื‘ืจื•ืจ ืฉืื ื™ ืžืชื ื”ื’ ื™ืคื”,
12:24
and that is my "Concerto for Orchestra."
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ืฉื”ื•ื ื”"ืงื•ื ืฆ'ืจื˜ื• ืœืชื–ืžื•ืจืช" ืฉืœื™.
12:27
You're going to notice a lot of conventional instruments
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ืืชื ื”ื•ืœื›ื™ื ืœื”ื‘ื—ื™ืŸ ื‘ื›ืœื™ื ืงื•ื ื‘ื ืฆื™ื•ื ืœื™ื ืจื‘ื™ื
12:29
in this clip. (Music)
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ื‘ืงืœื™ืค ื”ื–ื”. [ืžื•ื–ื™ืงื”]
12:32
(Music)
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[ืžื•ื–ื™ืงื”]
12:45
This, in fact, is not the title of this piece.
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ืœืžืขืฉื”, ื–ื• ืื™ื ื ื” ื”ื›ื•ืชืจืช ืฉืœ ื”ื™ืฆื™ืจื” ื”ื–ื•.
12:47
I was a bit mischievous. In fact, to make it more interesting,
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ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืงืฆืช ืฉื•ื‘ื‘, ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืคื•ืš ืืช ื–ื” ืœื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืขื ื™ื™ืŸ,
12:50
I put a space right in here, and this is the actual title of the piece.
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ืื ื™ ืฉื ื›ืืŸ ืจื•ื•ื—, ื•ื–ื• ื”ื›ื•ืชืจืช ื”ืืžื™ืชื™ืช ืฉืœ ื”ืงื˜ืข.
12:54
Let's continue with that same excerpt.
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ื‘ื•ืื• ื ืžืฉื™ืš ืขื ื”ืžื•ื‘ืื” ื”ื–ื•.
12:56
(Music)
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[ืžื•ื–ื™ืงื”]
13:06
It's better with a florist, right? (Laughter) (Music)
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ื–ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ื˜ื•ื‘ ืขื ืžื•ื›ืจ ืคืจื—ื™ื, ื ื›ื•ืŸ? [ืฆื—ื•ืง] [ืžื•ื–ื™ืงื”]
13:15
Or at least it's less boring. Let's watch a couple more clips.
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ืœืคื—ื•ืช ื›ืš ื–ื” ืคื—ื•ืช ืžืฉืขืžื. ื‘ื•ืื• ื ืฆืคื” ื‘ืžืกืคืจ ืงืœื™ืคื™ื ื ื•ืกืคื™ื.
13:17
(Music)
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[ืžื•ื–ื™ืงื”]
13:31
So with all these theatric elements, this pushes me in another role,
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ืขื ื›ืœ ื”ืืœืžื ื˜ื™ื ื”ืชื™ืื˜ืจืœื™ื ื”ืืœื”, ื–ื” ื“ื•ื—ืฃ ืื•ืชื™ ืœืชืคืงื™ื“ ื ื•ืกืฃ,
13:34
and that would be, possibly, the dramaturge.
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ื“ืจืžื˜ื•ืจื’ (ื›ื•ืชื‘ ื“ืจืžื•ืช).
13:37
I was playing nice. I had to write the orchestra bits, right?
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ื”ืชื ื”ื’ืชื™ ื™ืคื”. ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืฆืจื™ืš ืœื›ืชื•ื‘ ืืช ืงื˜ืขื™ ื”ืชื–ืžื•ืจืช, ื ื›ื•ืŸ?
13:41
Okay? But then there was this other stuff, right?
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ืื•ืงื™ื™? ืื‘ืœ ืื– ื™ืฉ ืืช ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื”ืื—ืจื™ื, ื ื›ื•ืŸ?
13:44
There was the florist, and I can understand that,
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ื”ื™ื” ืืช ืžื•ื›ืจ ื”ืคืจื—ื™ื, ื•ืื ื™ ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ื‘ื™ืŸ ืืช ื–ื”,
13:45
once again, we're putting pressure on the ontology of music
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ืฉื•ื‘, ืื ื• ืžืคืขื™ืœื™ื ืœื—ืฅ ืขืœ ื”ืคื™ืœื•ืกื•ืคื™ื” ืฉืœ ื”ืžื•ื–ื™ืงื”
13:49
as we know it conventionally,
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ื‘ืฆื•ืจืชื” ื”ืงื•ื ื‘ื ืฆื™ื•ื ืœื™ืช,
13:51
but let's look at one last piece today I'm going to share with you.
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ืื‘ืœ ื‘ื•ืื• ื ืฆืคื” ื‘ืงื˜ืข ืื—ืจื•ืŸ ืœื”ื™ื•ื.
13:56
This is going to be a piece called "Aphasia,"
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ื–ืืช ื™ืฆื™ืจื” ืฉื ืงืจืืช "ืืคืื–ื™ื”",
13:58
and it's for hand gestures synchronized to sound,
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ืขืœ ืžื—ื•ื•ืช ื™ื“ื™ื™ื ืžืกื•ื ื›ืจื ื•ืช ืขื ืฆืœื™ืœื™ื,
14:02
and this invites yet another role, and final one
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ื•ื–ื” ืžื–ืžื™ืŸ ืœื™ ืชืคืงื™ื“ ื ื•ืกืฃ, ืชืคืงื™ื“ ืื—ืจื•ืŸ
14:05
I'll share with you, which is that of the choreographer.
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ืฉืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœืฉืชืฃ ืืชื›ื ื‘ื•, ืชืคืงื™ื“ ื”ื›ื•ืจืื•ื’ืจืฃ.
14:07
And the score for the piece looks like this,
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ื”ืชื›ืœื™ืœ ืœื™ืฆื™ืจื” ื”ื–ื• ื ืจืื” ื›ืš,
14:10
and it instructs me, the performer, to make
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ื•ื”ื™ื ืžื“ืจื™ื›ื” ืื•ืชื™, ื”ืžื‘ืฆืข, ืœืขืฉื•ืช
14:14
various hand gestures at very specific times
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ืžื—ื•ื•ืช ื™ื“ื™ื™ื ืฉื•ื ื•ืช ื‘ื–ืžื ื™ื ืžืกื•ื™ื™ืžื™ื
14:17
synchronized with an audio tape, and that audio tape
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ืฉืžืกื•ื ื›ืจื ื•ืช ืขื ืงืœื˜ืช ืื•ื“ื™ื•, ื•ื”ืงืœื˜ืช ื”ื–ื•
14:19
is made up exclusively of vocal samples.
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ืžื›ื™ืœื” ืืš ื•ืจืง ื“ื•ื’ืžืื•ืช ืงื•ืœื™ื•ืช.
14:22
I recorded an awesome singer,
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ื”ืงืœื˜ืชื™ ื–ืžืจ ืžืฆื•ื™ื™ืŸ,
14:24
and I took the sound of his voice in my computer,
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ื”ื›ื ืกืชื™ ืืช ื”ืงื•ืœ ืฉืœื• ืœืžื—ืฉื‘ ืฉืœื™,
14:27
and I warped it in countless ways to come up with
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ื•ืขื™ื‘ื“ืชื™ ืื•ืชื• ื‘ืฆื•ืจื•ืช ืฉื•ื ื•ืช ื›ืš ืฉืงื™ื‘ืœืชื™
14:29
the soundtrack that you're about to hear.
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ืืช ืคืก ื”ืงื•ืœ ืฉืืชื ืขื•ืžื“ื™ื ืœืฉืžื•ืข.
14:32
And I'll perform just an excerpt of "Aphasia" for you here. Okay?
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ืื ื™ ืื‘ืฆืข ืจืง ืืช ื”ื”ืงื“ืžื” ืฉืœ "ืืคืื–ื™ื”" ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœื›ื. ืื•ืงื™ื™?
14:37
(Music)
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[ืžื•ื–ื™ืงื”]
15:15
So that gives you a little taste of that piece. (Applause)
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ื–ื” ื ื•ืชืŸ ืœื›ื ื˜ืขื™ืžื” ืงื˜ื ื” ืžื”ื™ืฆื™ืจื” ื”ื–ื•. [ืžื—ื™ืื•ืช ื›ืคื™ื™ื]
15:21
Yeah, okay, that's kind of weird stuff.
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ื›ืŸ, ืื•ืงื™ื™, ื–ื” ืงื˜ืข ื“ื™ื™ ืžื•ื–ืจ.
15:24
Is it music? Here's how I want to conclude.
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ื”ืื ื–ื• ืžื•ื–ื™ืงื”? ื›ืš ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœืกื›ื.
15:26
I've decided, ultimately, that this is the wrong question,
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ื”ื—ืœื˜ืชื™ ื‘ืกื•ืฃ ืฉื–ื• ืื™ื ื ื” ื”ืฉืืœื” ื”ื ื›ื•ื ื”,
15:29
that this is not the important question.
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ื–ื• ืื™ื ื ื” ื”ืฉืืœื” ื”ื—ืฉื•ื‘ื”.
15:31
The important question is, "Is it interesting?"
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ื”ืฉืืœื” ื”ื—ืฉื•ื‘ื” ื”ื™ื: "ื”ืื ื–ื” ืžืขื ื™ื™ืŸ?"
15:33
And I follow this question, not worrying about "Is it music?" --
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ืื ื™ ืขื•ื‘ื“ ืขืœ ืคื™ ื”ืฉืืœื” ื”ื–ื•, ื‘ืœื™ ืœื“ืื•ื’ ืœื’ื‘ื™ "ื”ืื ื–ื• ืžื•ื–ื™ืงื”?" --
15:36
not worrying about the definition of the thing that I'm making.
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ื‘ืœื™ ืœื“ืื•ื’ ืœื”ื’ื“ืจื” ื”ืžื“ื•ื™ื™ืงืช ืฉืœ ืžื” ืฉืื ื™ ืขื•ืฉื”.
15:39
I allow my creativity to push me
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ืื ื™ ื ื•ืชืŸ ืœื™ืฆื™ืจืชื™ื•ืช ืฉืœื™ ืœื“ื—ื•ืฃ ืื•ืชื™
15:41
in directions that are simply interesting to me,
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ื‘ื›ื•ื•ื ื™ื ืฉืคืฉื•ื˜ ืžืขื ื™ื™ื ื™ื ืื•ืชื™,
15:43
and I don't worry about the likeness of the result
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ื•ืื ื™ ืœื ื“ื•ืื’ ืœื’ื‘ื™ ื”ื”ืงื‘ืœื” ืฉืœ ื”ืชื•ืฆืื”
15:46
to some notion, some paradigm,
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ืœืจืขื™ื•ืŸ ืžืกื•ื™ื™ื, ื“ื•ื’ืžื” ื›ืœืฉื”ื™,
15:48
of what music composition is supposed to be,
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ืฉืœ ืžื” ื”ืจื›ื‘ ื”ืžื•ื–ื™ืงื” ืืžื•ืจ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช,
15:51
and that has actually urged me, in a sense,
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ื•ื–ื” ืœืžืขืฉื” ื“ื—ืฃ ืื•ืชื™
15:54
to take on a whole bunch of different roles,
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ืœืงื—ืช ืขืœ ืขืฆืžื™ ืžื’ื•ื•ืŸ ืชืคืงื™ื“ื™ื,
15:56
and so what I want you to think about is,
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ืื ื›ืŸ, ืžื” ืฉืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืฉืชื—ืฉื‘ื• ืขืœื™ื• ื”ื•ื,
15:58
to what extent might you change the fundamental question
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ื‘ืื™ื–ื• ืžื™ื“ื” ืืชื ืขืœื•ืœื™ื ืœืฉื ื•ืช ืืช ื”ืฉืืœื” ื”ื‘ืกื™ืกื™ืช
16:01
in your discipline, and, okay,
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ื‘ื“ื™ืกืฆื™ืคืœื™ื ื” ืฉืœื›ื,
16:04
I'm going to put one extra little footnote in here,
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ื•ืื ื™ ื”ื•ืœืš ืœื”ื›ื ื™ืก ืขื•ื“ ื”ืขืจื” ืงื˜ื ื” ื›ืืŸ,
16:06
because, like, I realized I mentioned
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ื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉื”ื‘ื ืชื™, ืฉื”ื–ื›ืจืชื™
16:08
some psychological defects earlier, and we also,
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ื›ืžื” ืžื•ืžื™ื ืคืกื™ื›ื•ืœื•ื’ื™ื ืงื•ื“ื ืœื›ืŸ, ื•ืื ื—ื ื• ื’ื,
16:11
along the way, had a fair amount of obsessive behavior,
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ืœืื•ืจืš ื”ื“ืจืš, ื”ืฆื’ื ื• ื“ื™ื™ ื”ืจื‘ื” ื”ืชื ื”ื’ื•ืช ืื•ื‘ืกืกื™ื‘ื™ืช,
16:14
and there was some delusional behavior and things like that,
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ื”ื™ืชื” ื’ื ื”ืชื ื”ื’ื•ืช ื”ื–ื™ื™ืชื™ืช ื•ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื›ืืœื”,
16:16
and here I think we could say that this is an argument
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ื•ื›ืืŸ ื”ื™ื”, ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉืืคืฉืจ ืœื”ื’ื™ื“, ื“ื•ื’ืžื”
16:19
for self-loathing and a kind of schizophrenia,
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ืœืฉื ืื” ืขืฆืžื™ืช ื•ืกื•ื’ ืฉืœ ืกื›ื™ื–ื•ืคืจื ื™ื”,
16:21
at least in the popular use of the term,
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ืœืคื—ื•ืช ื‘ืคื™ืจื•ืฉ ื”ืขืžืžื™ ืฉืœ ื”ืžื•ืฉื’,
16:23
and I really mean dissociative identity disorder, okay. (Laughter)
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ื•ืื ื™ ื‘ืืžืช ืžืชื›ื•ื•ืŸ ืœืชืกืžื•ื ืช ืฉืœ ืคื™ืฆื•ืœ ืื™ืฉื™ื•ืช. [ืฆื—ื•ืง]
16:26
Anyway, despite those perils, I would urge you
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ื‘ื›ืœ ืžืงืจื”, ืœืžืจื•ืช ื”ืฆืจื•ืช ื”ืœืœื•, ืื ื™ ืžืคืฆื™ืจ ื‘ื›ื
16:29
to think about the possibility that you might take on roles
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ืœื—ืฉื•ื‘ ืขืœ ื”ืืคืฉืจื•ืช ืฉืœื›ื ืœืงื—ืช ืขืœ ืขืฆืžื›ื ืชืคืงื™ื“ื™ื
16:31
in your own work, whether they are neighboring
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ื‘ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืฉืœื›ื, ื‘ื™ืŸ ืื ื”ื ืงืจื•ื‘ื™ื
16:33
or far-flung from your professional definition.
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ืื• ืืคื™ืœื• ืจื—ื•ืงื™ื ืฉื ื•ืช-ืื•ืจ ืžื”ื’ื“ืจืช ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืฉืœื›ื.
16:36
And with that, I thank you very much. (Applause)
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ืขื ื–ื”, ืื ื™ ืžื•ื“ื” ืœื›ื. [ืžื—ื™ืื•ืช ื›ืคื™ื™ื]
16:38
(Applause)
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[ืžื—ื™ืื•ืช ื›ืคื™ื™ื]
ืขืœ ืืชืจ ื–ื”

ืืชืจ ื–ื” ื™ืฆื™ื’ ื‘ืคื ื™ื›ื ืกืจื˜ื•ื ื™ YouTube ื”ืžื•ืขื™ืœื™ื ืœืœื™ืžื•ื“ ืื ื’ืœื™ืช. ืชื•ื›ืœื• ืœืจืื•ืช ืฉื™ืขื•ืจื™ ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ื”ืžื•ืขื‘ืจื™ื ืขืœ ื™ื“ื™ ืžื•ืจื™ื ืžื”ืฉื•ืจื” ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ืžืจื—ื‘ื™ ื”ืขื•ืœื. ืœื—ืฅ ืคืขืžื™ื™ื ืขืœ ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ื”ืžื•ืฆื’ื•ืช ื‘ื›ืœ ื“ืฃ ื•ื™ื“ืื• ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืคืขื™ืœ ืืช ื”ืกืจื˜ื•ืŸ ืžืฉื. ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื’ื•ืœืœื•ืช ื‘ืกื ื›ืจื•ืŸ ืขื ื”ืคืขืœืช ื”ื•ื•ื™ื“ืื•. ืื ื™ืฉ ืœืš ื”ืขืจื•ืช ืื• ื‘ืงืฉื•ืช, ืื ื ืฆื•ืจ ืื™ืชื ื• ืงืฉืจ ื‘ืืžืฆืขื•ืช ื˜ื•ืคืก ื™ืฆื™ืจืช ืงืฉืจ ื–ื”.

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