Etacude English Teachers Interview with Eric Wesch | Speak English Fluently with Steve Hatherly

Welcome to another edition of Speak English Fluently.

欢迎来到另一个版本的说流利英语。

I am your host, Steve Hatherly.

我是你的主人，史蒂夫·哈瑟利。我感谢你再次加入我们。

And I thank you for joining us once again.

I’m very excited today because my guest is Mr. Eric Wesch.

今天我很兴奋，因为我的客人是 Eric Wesch 先生。

He is originally from South Africa.

他最初来自南非。他已经在韩国待了大约

He's been in Korea for about 10 years now, in total, teaching English.

10 年，总共教英语。但在 2019 年，Eric 决定

But in 2019, that's when Eric decided to start a YouTube channel,

开设一个 YouTube 频道，该频道名为 Etacude。

and the channel is called Etacude.

Now, it's an interesting channel because it's about education.

现在，这是一个有趣的频道，因为它是关于教育的。

但它的重点是教师。这是一个致力于

But it's focusing on teachers.

It's a channel that is dedicated to helping teachers become, quote, and I quote from the

帮助教师成为的频道，引用我从 YouTube 频道中引用的内容，

YouTube channel, “An unstoppable force in the classroom.”

“课堂上不可阻挡的力量。” Eric Wesch 先生，

Mr. Eric Wesch, thank you very much for joining me today.

非常感谢您今天加入我的行列。这是一个……很高兴见到你。

It's a… it's a real pleasure to meet you.

Hi, Steve.

嗨，史蒂夫。非常感谢你邀请我。

Thank you so much for having me.

It's… it's a pleasure to be here today.

这是……今天很高兴来到这里。我刚刚访问了您的 YouTube 频道

I’ve just come from visiting your YouTube channel and watching some of your videos

并观看了您的一些视频，我们将谈论很多关于 Etacude 的内容。

and we're going to talk a lot about Etacude.

And… and what it is, and what it's for.

还有……它是什么，它的用途是什么。但首先，让我们先谈谈你。

But first, let's start by talking about you.

You are from South Africa originally.

你最初来自南非。哪个……我可以问哪个部分？

Which… which part may I ask?

Well, South Africa is very interesting.

嗯，南非很有趣。嗯，你有约翰内斯堡，

Um you've got Johannesburg, or Johannesburg at the… in the north, and then you've got

或者约翰内斯堡在……在北部，然后你在南部有开普敦。

Cape Town in the South.

嗯，我最简单的解释方式是，我住在离

Um the easiest way for me to explain, is that I live about an hour away from Johannesburg.

约翰内斯堡大约一个小时的地方。好的，非常好。

Okay, very good.

Would that be considered the countryside a little bit?

那会不会有点像农村？

A little bit, yeah.

一点点，是的。它……它不是一座城市。

It's… it's not a city.

I grew up in a town with a population of 200,000 people so not very big.

我在一个有 200,000 人口的小镇长大，所以不是很大。

Well that's… that's huge.

嗯……那是巨大的。我真的很喜欢。

I really enjoyed it.

It's big, yeah.

它很大，是的。很好。

Very good.

Uh… what made you come to Korea originally, I wonder?

呃……是什么让你最初来韩国的，我想知道吗？

Well, I started teaching in 2007.

嗯，我从 2007 年开始教书。我在南非教了

And I taught in South Africa for a couple of years.

几年书。好的。

Okay.

但是，因为南非离世界其他地方很远，所以

But, because South Africa is so far away from, well, the rest of the world, I wanted to explore

我想去探索和看看其他地方。 因此，我对 旅行和教学的

and see other places.

So, I did some research on countries to travel and to teach at.

国家进行了一些研究 。 我听说了一些关于韩国的好消息。

And I heard some good things about South Korea.

And then, yeah, just came to South Korea to teach.

然后，是的，刚来韩国教书。从那以后我就一直在这里。

And I’ve been here ever since.

And you learned that all of those good things that you heard before were very very true,

而且你了解到你之前听到的所有这些好事都是非常非常真实的，对吧？

right?

Most of them, definitely.

他们中的大多数，肯定的。 您 是在南非

Were you teaching English as a second language in South Africa, or were you teaching in the

教英语作为 第二语言，还是在公立学校系统教书？

public school system?

I was teaching in the public school system.

我在公立学校系统教书。我必须教一些主题，一些科目。

And I had to teach a few topics, a few subjects.

Uh one was, uh, English, and the other one was, um, I had to teach some social sciences.

一个是，呃，英语，另一个是，嗯，我必须教一些社会科学。

So I’ve uh I had a few classes, but it were… it was at a public school.

所以我，呃，我上过几节课，但那是……那是在一所公立学校。

I see.

我懂了。通过查看您的 YouTube 频道和阅读

From looking at your YouTube channel, and reading your channel description, I saw, and

您的频道说明，我看到并了解到，您在这个国家几乎所有年龄段的人都教过。

learned, that you've taught almost all ages here in the country.

I have.

我有。嗯，我有。

Uh, I have.

I’m very fortunate to have taught all ages.

我很幸运能教过所有年龄段的人。我教过幼儿园。

I’ve taught kindergarten.

I’ve taught elementary school a lot.

我教过很多小学。我教过高中。

I’ve taught high school.

And now, currently, I’m teaching at a university.

现在，目前，我在一所大学任教。嗯，我也有机会与

Um, I’ve also had the opportunity to work with adults to teach business, and other types

成年人一起教授商业和其他类型的职业相关主题。

of career related topics, too.

Very good.

很好。有没有哪个特定的年龄

Is there any particular age group that stands out to you as your favorite?

段让你觉得你最喜欢？嗯，每个年龄段都有它的，呃，好处

Well, every age group has its, uh, benefits and well also its struggles, or its challenges.

，也有它的挣扎，或者它的挑战。我觉得对于年轻的学习者，他们

And I feel with younger learners, they have a lot of energy, and you can have fun with

精力充沛，你可以和他们一起玩。但是，它也非常消耗体力。

them.

But, it's also very draining.

然后和所有的学生一起，他们非常有上进心。

Then with all the students, they are very self-motivated.

But… and you don't have to struggle with classroom management.

但是……而且您不必为课堂管理而苦苦挣扎。

但有时很难让他们谈论并为某个话题感到兴奋。

But it's sometimes difficult to get them to talk and to be excited about a topic.

所以，嗯，回答你的问题，我现在更喜欢教成年人

So, um, to answer your question, I actually prefer, right now, to teach adults, or students

或学生，因为他们更容易。但是，时不时地，我喜欢和

because they are much easier.

But, every now and again, I like to go and work with young learners because they're so

年轻的学习者一起工作，因为他们非常有趣，呃它是……这是一个……我们可以玩这么多游戏，

much fun and uh it's… it's a… we can play so many games, and it's very engaging.

而且非常吸引人。所以你在韩国教了

So you were teaching for about seven years in Korea and you're living down in Daegu now

大约七年，现在住在大邱，对吗？

is that correct?

That's right.

这是正确的。好吧，我在南非教了三年书。

Well I taught three years in South Africa.

Five years in Busan, where I taught at a science high school.

在釜山工作了五年，在那里我在一所理科高中任教。

I really enjoyed it, very smart students.

我真的很喜欢它，非常聪明的学生。现在我在大邱任教。

And now I’m currently teaching at Daegu.

And I’ve been here for five years, so 10 years in Korea.

我已经在这里待了五年，所以在韩国待了 10 年。

If you're not familiar with the geography of Korea, Daegu is on the South Eastern side

如果你不熟悉韩国的地理，大邱在该

of the country, right?

国的东南部，对吧？那里的地理很好。

Great geography there.

I had to kind of check my memory first.

我必须先检查一下我的记忆力。嗯，好吧，就像我要说的那样，

Um, well, like I was getting to, so you were in Korea for about seven years I guess when

所以你在韩国呆了大约七年，我猜你是在决定

you decided to make the YouTube channel called Etacude.

制作名为 Etacude 的 YouTube 频道时。因此，让我们首先谈谈

So let's talk about that decision to start a channel in the first place.

开设频道的决定。然后也许你可以继续谈论

And then maybe you can segue into talking about what the channel is actually about.

频道的实际内容。嗯，我很愿意。

Well, I’d love to.

Um, you know I’ve…

嗯，你知道我……我已经教了很长时间了……我记得

I’ve been teaching for a long time and… and I remember when I first started teaching.

我刚开始教书的时候。我非常渴望找到答案。

I was so desperate to find answers.

I was so…

我是如此……我真的很想有人帮我……帮我，我该如何办班？

I really wanted someone to help me to… to help me, how do I run a class?

How do I deal with students?

我如何与学生相处？我如何制定课程计划？

How do I make lesson plans?

What activities can I use with my students?

我可以与学生一起参加哪些活动？我记得，我是……这是

And I remember, I was …this was while I was studying.

我学习的时候。我曾是个学生。

I was a student.

多年前。很多年前，我还是学生的时候。

Many years ago.

Many years ago, when I was a student.

And I was so desperate for help, and even though I had professors, and other teachers

而且我非常渴望帮助，即使我有教授和其他老师在那里，

there, I…

I felt like I still needed more support.

我……我觉得我仍然需要更多的支持。我……我觉得，嗯，他们让我失望了。

I’ve…

I felt like, um, they have failed me.

我试着看书，嗯，当时还没有YouTube。

I tried to read books, um, YouTube didn't exist back then.

But I was looking for information everywhere, and I just couldn't find it.

但是我到处寻找信息，我就是找不到。

然后，多年来，我一直有一种想要回馈的感觉，因为我知道……

And then, for years, I just had that feeling of I want to give back because I know… how

it was to start without any help.

在没有任何帮助的情况下开始是怎样的。多年来，我一直有这种感觉，哦，我需要

And for years, I had this feeling, oh I need to try and find a way to… to help other

尝试找到一种方法来……帮助其他老师。但问题是......问题是

teachers.

But the problem was… the problem was that I was deathly afraid, and… of being in front

我非常害怕，而且......在镜头前。

of a camera.

Oh, interesting.

哦，有趣。我讨厌自己的声音。

I hated the sound of my own voice.

It's still very bad.

它仍然非常糟糕。每当有人拍摄

And whenever somebody would take a video, I would almost run out of the room.

视频时，我几乎都会跑出房间。所以，在某个时候，我才意识到，

And so, at some point, I just realized that, this need for me to try and help other teachers

我需要尝试帮助那里的其他老师，

out there, um, outweighed the… the… the fear of cameras.

嗯，超过了……对相机的恐惧。以及对学习新事物的恐惧。

And the fear of learning something new.

So, eventually, I just bit the bullet.

所以，最终，我只是咬紧牙关。这意味着，呃，我决定这样做。

That means, uh, I decided to do it.

And I started the channel.

我开始了频道。三年后，在这里我

And three years later, here I am not that afraid of video.

不再那么害怕视频了。实际上拥抱它，并学习

Actually embracing it, and learning something new about, um, video and audio, and, um, writing

一些新的东西，嗯，视频和音频，嗯，每天写脚本和 YouTube。

scripts and YouTube every single day.

Well I guess you are being a great teacher in that sense because you are leading by example.

好吧，我想你在这个意义上是一位伟大的老师，因为你以身作则。

You are showing your students that, hey, I was afraid to learn something new, but I did

你在向你的学生展示，嘿，我害怕学习新东西，但我做到了，

it, so you can, too.

所以你也可以。是的，绝对的。

Yeah, definitely.

你知道，作为老师，呃，我们应该成为榜样，我想如果我们可以

You know, as teachers, uh, we are supposed to be role models, and I think if we can show

our students that, listen, here is this huge obstacle or, that I have to overcome, or this

向我们的学生展示，听着，这是一个巨大的障碍，或者，我必须克服，

wall between me and my goals if you apply yourself, and you work very hard, then you

或者我和我的目标之间的这堵墙如果你应用自己，并且非常努力地工作，那么你可以

can cross that wall, and you can achieve your goals.

跨过那堵墙，你就可以实现你的目标。所以特别是在语言学习方面，呃，

So especially with language learning, uh, one… one of my greatest skills, I believe,

一个……我最伟大的技能之一，我相信，我最伟大的技能之一

one of my greatest skills is to try and get my students to talk.

就是尝试让我的学生说话。因为作为一名语言学习者……作为一名

Because as a language learner… as a language teacher our students are very often shy or

语言老师，我们的学生常常很害羞，或者他们不想大声说话。

they don't want to speak out loud.

They don't want to communicate with their friends.

他们不想与朋友交流。他们是……他们……他们讨厌公开演讲。

They are… they… they hate public speaking.

所以，嗯，我的一项技能是尝试从我的学生身上得到它。

So um, one of my skills is to try and get that out of my students.

Um, I think it's so important to… to show them that you know… there's by… by applying

嗯，我认为......向他们展示你知道......通过......

yourself by trying…

通过尝试......尝试新事物来应用自己，呃，你会学习，你会成长，而且......没有

trying new things, uh, you will learn, and you will grow, and there…

there's nothing to be afraid of, only you know, there's only success that will come

什么好害怕的，只有你知道，只有未来才会有成功。

in the future.

I think you did a great thing by recognizing that there was a need for a channel like Etacude.

我认为您通过认识到需要像 Etacude 这样的频道做了一件了不起的事情。

因为我记得，我在韩国已经有 20 年了，我已经有一段时间没有

Because I remember, I’ve been in Korea for 20 years now and I haven't been, uh, teaching

in a classroom for… for quite some time now, but in the very beginning, when I first

在教室里教书了，呃，有一段时间了，但一开始，当我第一次来的时候，

came, I could have used all the help that I… that I could get.

我可以用我……我能得到的所有帮助。

And there were no resources outside of like you said, uh, my co-workers and things like

除了你说的，呃，我的同事之类的东西之外，没有其他资源。

that.

所以你有这个想法，好吧，所以我要创建一个致力于帮助教师的 YouTube 频道。

So you had this idea, okay, so I’m gonna make a YouTube channel dedicated to helping

teachers.

But that's a very broad, that's a very broad topic, so how did you decide where you were

但这是一个非常广泛的话题，那是一个非常广泛的话题，那么你是如何决定从哪里

going to start?

开始的呢？嗯……嗯……这很有趣，嗯……

Well… well that… that's very interesting, um…

在我开始之前，我知道我的第一个视频和我的第一个想法不会完美。

Well before I started, I knew that my first video and my first idea won't be perfect.

It won't be perfect, um, and I just decided to start making some videos on topics that

这不会是完美的，嗯，我刚决定开始制作一些关于

我感兴趣的主题的视频。而且，

I’m interested in.

And also, topics that I’ve heard people need some help with.

我听说人们需要一些帮助的主题。我开始时，我想，一些，嗯，

I started out with, I think, a couple of, um, words in Korean for new teachers to use.

韩语单词供新老师使用。好的。

Okay.

来韩国吧。所以我做了一些

Come to Korea.

So I did some even though my Korean isn't very good.

，即使我的韩语不是很好。我……我想

I…

I wanted to share some… some tips and tricks to new teachers.

和新老师分享一些……一些技巧和窍门。那些视频不是很好，

Those videos weren't very good, but I was…

但我……我是，嗯，我为自己在镜头前努力而感到自豪。

I was, um, I was so proud of myself for being in front of a camera and trying.

And then after that, um, I started trying new things.

然后在那之后，嗯，我开始尝试新事物。

Um, trying to do videos on activities, or if somebody mentioned that they needed some

嗯，尝试制作有关活动的视频，或者如果有人提到他们

help with the first day of class, I started making videos on whatever the need was.

在第一天上课时需要一些帮助，我就开始制作任何需要的视频。

And now, I’ve got all these ideas of videos that I make.

现在，我对我制作的视频有了所有这些想法。

And whenever someone suggests it, I do some research and I try to present something useful

每当有人提出建议时，我都会做一些研究，并

尝试向他们展示一些有用的东西。那太好了，因为您有

to them.

Well that's great because you have an audience of teachers who are constantly learning themselves

一群老师，他们不断地自我学习并问您问题，这有助于您创建

and asking you questions and that helps you create your content, right?

内容，对吗？ 100%

100% Um, one of the things that I do is, for the

嗯，我做的一件事是，在过去的两年里，

past two years, every Sat… every Sunday night at 10 p.m.,

每个星期六……每个星期天晚上 10 点，我都有一小时的直播。

I have a one hour live stream.

Where, um, I’ve got teachers joining and sharing what's going on in their lives and

在哪里，嗯，我有老师加入并分享他们的

生活和课堂上发生的事情。我有英语学习者

in their classes.

I’ve got English learners coming to the live stream just to chat.

来直播只是为了聊天。我从老师那里得到了很多想法，他们说，

And I get so many ideas from teachers saying, listen, I’m doing this in my class and it's

听着，我在课堂上这样做，而且效果很好。

working.

或者我有这个问题，或者什么……你会给什么建议？

Or I’ve got this problem, or what…

what advice would you give?

So for…

所以……我几乎完成了……我已经完成了 150 个……我认为是 150

I’ve almost done…

I’ve done 150…

I think it's 150.

个。 差不多 150 个，嗯，只是一个小时的直播。

Almost 150, um, live streams of just talking for an hour.

And I’ve learned so much from teachers, um, out there, you know…

而且我从老师那里学到了很多，嗯，在那里，你知道……

When we're only one person, we've only got one experience.

当我们只有一个人时，我们只有一种经历。

But I’m so grateful to be able to talk to many teachers and learn from them.

但我很感激能够与许多老师交谈并向他们学习。

这是真的，因为每个人在课堂上都有不同的经历，对吧。

It's true because everybody has a different experience in the classroom, right.

你已经完成了 150 次直播，这真的很酷。这对你来说是一个很好的练习，可以克服

That's really cool you've done 150 live streams.

And that's great practice for you to get over your fear of being in front of the camera

你显然不再害怕出现在镜头前的恐惧。

that you obviously don't have anymore.

Yeah, I don't think I’ve got that fear anymore.

是的，我想我已经没有那种恐惧了。我……我刚刚意识到你知道，我刚刚意识到

I…

I just realized you know, I just realized that whatever happens, just let go, um, relax,

无论发生什么，放手，嗯，放松，你知道，尽力而为，你知道，那是……这就是

you know, and do your best, you know, that's… that's all that can be expected of you.

你所能期望的。我想是的……

I think so…

So often we…

所以我们经常……我们……我们认为我们正在被监视，或者我们应该比我们更好

we…

we think that we're being watched or that we should be better than we are, but you know

，但你知道我只能成为当下的我，希望我能做到最好，你知道。

I can only be who I am in the moment and hopefully I can do my best, you know.

The channel now is doing extremely well.

该频道现在做得非常好。

Somewhere in the area of what almost 89,000 subscribers now.

现在大约有 89,000 名订阅者。

I think was what was the number that I saw.

我想我看到的数字是多少。是该频道立竿见影的成功，

Was that immediate success for the channel, or has it been growing consistently over the

还是在过去三年中一直在持续增长？对于 YouTube 频道来说，三年

three years?

Three years for a YouTube channel is not really a long time so you've… congratulations you've

并不是很长的时间，所以你已经……恭喜你为自己做得非常好。

done really really well for yourself.

Thank you so much.

太感谢了。嗯，是的，我……我一直……我很

Um yeah, I’ve…

I’ve been…

I’ve been very fortunate to have so many teachers support me.

幸运有这么多老师支持我。嗯，我想嗯我……我……虽然我很努力，

Um, I think um I…

I… even though I work very hard, I’m very fortunate to have many teachers out there.

但我很幸运有很多老师在外面。

And also, English learners, um, so eager to learn new things and that has really pushed

而且，英语学习者，嗯，非常渴望学习新事物，这真的促使我

me to… to be more active and to find more useful resources to share.

……变得更加活跃并找到更多有用的资源来分享。

So I think, um, you know, whenever we do something and it comes from, uh, from a place of trying

所以我认为，嗯，你知道，每当我们做某事时，它来自，

呃，来自一个试图帮助和帮助他人的地方，你知道，你只会得到积极

to help and assist others, you know, you will only have positive results and that's… that's

的结果，那就是……这让我继续前进。 Etacude，你

kept me going.

Etacude, and you informed me of this just before we started, and it was a kind of a

在我们开始之前就告诉了我这件事，这对我来说是一个令人兴奋的时刻。

mind-blowing moment for me.

Uh, you can tell the audience what you told what you told me before we started today.

呃，你可以告诉听众你在我们今天开始之前你告诉我的。

Okay, so it's Etacude, e-t-a-c-u-d-e, um, I’ve had so many teachers say, “Eric,

好的，所以它是 Etacude，etacude，嗯，我有很多老师说，“Eric，这是一个非常

that's such an interesting word.

有趣的词。这是什么意思？”我有很长一段时间的观众一直在看

What does it mean?”

I’ve had long time viewers that have watched me for… for years saying Eric, um, and then

我……多年来一直在说 Eric，嗯，然后在直播中他们说……他们问我 Eric，你是怎么

in a live stream they say…

they asked me Eric how did you come up with the name?

想出这个名字的？这是什么意思？

What does it mean?

实际上，如果你倒过来读，Etacude 是“教育”，对吧？

And actually Etacude, if you read it backwards, is ‘educate,’ right?

And, um, I picked that up.

而且，嗯，我捡到了。我很高兴选择那个……那个

I’m so happy to pick that that… that name, but you know what happens, Steve?

名字，但你知道会发生什么吗，史蒂夫？这……这真的很有趣，

It's… it's actually funny, um, uh, one of my friends, Robin Shaw actually gave me some

嗯，呃，我的一个朋友，罗宾肖实际上给了我一些很好的建议。

good advice.

Originally, my YouTube channel's name was just Etacude.

最初，我的 YouTube 频道名称只是 Etacude。

Okay.

好的。我喜欢它。

And I liked it.

我知道这意味着什么，它是给老师的。这是独一无二的。

I knew what it meant and it was for teachers.

It was unique.

And then my friend, Robin suggested, “Eric, I like the name but people don't know what

然后我的朋友罗宾建议，“埃里克，我喜欢这个名字，但人们不知道

the channel is about.”

这个频道是关于什么的。”所以我想，是的，他是对的。

So I thought, yeah, he's right.

And I changed the name to Etacude English Teachers.

我把名字改成了 Etacude English Teachers。

Now whenever someone sees the name, they know, okay well, this is about… this is for English

现在，每当有人看到这个名字时，他们就知道，好吧，这是关于……这是给英语

teachers.

老师的。另一个问题是，如果有人想搜索 Etacude，嗯，他们……他们可能

And the other problem is, if somebody wanted to search Etacude, um, they… they might

not know what the what…

不知道是什么……这个名字是什么意思，所以可能很难找到它。

what the name means, so it might be difficult to search for it.

So, um, after changing the name, I’ve…

所以，嗯，在改名之后，我……我已经，嗯，我看到了更多的进步。

I’ve had, um, I’ve seen a lot more progress.

So I’m very grateful to Robin for giving me that advice.

所以我非常感谢 Robin 给我的建议。

确实很棒的建议。所以让我们谈谈，呃，

Great advice indeed.

So let's talk, uh, a little bit more in detail about the channel.

关于频道的更多细节。老师可以在那里看到什么样的视频？

What kind of videos can teachers see there?

If the teachers or students, I should say, should they visit your channel?

如果老师或学生，我应该说，他们应该访问您的频道吗？

Okay, my goal is to make useful videos for teachers.

好的，我的目标是为老师制作有用的视频。

So whenever I have some tips, some activities, or free resources, I share it with the community.

因此，每当我有一些技巧、一些活动或免费资源时，我都会与社区分享。

When…

当……当 Covid 发生时，我……老师不得不搬到网上，所以我创建了一个

when Covid happened, I… teachers had to move online, so I created a whole series about

how to teach online.

关于如何在线教学的完整系列。然后我还制作了有关活动的视频。

And then I’ve also done videos on activities.

Because teachers need to keep their students busy, so I did lots of videos on activities.

因为老师需要让他们的学生忙碌，所以我做了很多关于活动的视频。

特别是我喜欢除了特殊活动之外的所有活动，比如

Especially I like activities about everything but activities about special events, like

Christmas activities, or you know Halloween activities, so those are very popular.

圣诞节活动，或者你知道万圣节活动，所以这些活动非常受欢迎。

就我自己而言，我也喜欢制作有关课堂管理的视频。

For myself, I also like making videos on classroom management.

Because when you start as a new teacher, you don't know how to control a class.

因为当你开始作为一名新老师时，你不知道如何控制一个班级。

So a lot of my videos that I enjoy making, is all about how to teach… a teacher to

所以我喜欢制作的很多视频都是关于如何教……

老师不仅要严格，而且要成为好老师，控制课堂并帮助他们。

not just be strict, but be a good teacher and control the classroom and help them.

这些就是我制作的视频。我制作有关活动的视频和有关

And so those are the videos that I make.

I make videos on activities and videos on teaching tips, teaching online.

教学技巧的视频，在线教学。在未来，

And in the future, I plan on making videos on how to teach grammar.

我计划制作有关如何教授语法的视频。因此，我将

So that is something that I will be working on for the future is how to teach some topics

在未来致力于如何教授一些与语法相关的主题。

related to grammar.

What is one tip?

什么是小费？如果你能给我们一点，呃，

If you could give us a little, uh, peek behind the curtain, if you will, in how to run a

偷看幕后，如果你愿意，如何成功地运行一个教室？

classroom successfully?

What is Eric Wesch's number one tip for teachers on that?

Eric Wesch 在这方面给老师的第一条建议是什么？

Okay, um, the first tip I would give, I’ve got a billion tips that I can share, but…

好的，嗯，我要给出的第一个提示，我有十亿个提示可以分享，但是……

Well share as many…

好吧，分享多少……分享多少就分享多少。

share as many as you like then.

I think the most important tip I can give anyone, is to, and this is going to sound

我认为我能给任何人的最重要的提示是，这听起来很老套，

very corny, but it's going to be believe in yourself.

但它会相信自己。这听起来很老套，但让我解释一下。

It sounds corny, but let me explain.

When a new teacher starts teaching, they look towards other teachers for advice.

当一位新老师开始教学时，他们会向其他老师寻求建议。

They look towards someone to save them.

他们期待有人来拯救他们。有人告诉他们该怎么做。

Someone to tell them what to do.

因为他们的一生……当他们……当他们还是学生时，

Because their whole lives…

when they was… their whole lives when they were students, they were told what to do.

他们的一生都被告知要做什么。他们是名单……他们

They were list…

they would listen to their teacher.

会听老师的话。现在他们是老师，

Now that they are the teacher, they've never had the experience of control of teaching

他们从来没有控制过教学生的经验，现在他们必须学习。

students and now they have to learn.

So what I would tell a teacher is trust yourself.

所以我要告诉老师的是相信自己。 如果您 对自己的行为负责并且您是班级的控制者，

You will learn faster if you take responsibility for your actions and you are the one in control

您将学得更快 。 那是一种领导力，嗯……嗯，这

of the class.

And that is a leadership, um…

um, that is something to do with leadership where you're the one in control of the students,

与领导力有关，你是控制学生的人，你是

you're the one leading them, helping them to be successful.

领导他们的人，帮助他们取得成功。所以如果你相信自己，你就会知道

So if you trust in yourself, you know that the more you're going to teach this class,

你教的越多，你就会学得越多。

the more you're going to learn.

You will grow and you will improve.

你会成长，你会进步。只有那些你应该

And just that knowledge that you should believe in yourself, that you will improve, will give

相信自己、你会提高的知识，才会让你有信心成为一名更好的老师。

you the confidence to be a better teacher.

So that is probably my number one tip that I would give teachers out there.

所以这可能是我给老师的第一条建议。

Well I feel motivated myself after hearing that speech.

嗯，听完那个演讲后，我觉得自己很有动力。

That was wonderful.

那太棒了。嗯，那是……这是

Um, is that… that's one of the challenges that new teachers face.

新教师面临的挑战之一。你

And you taught in the public education system in South Africa.

在南非的公共教育系统任教。而且你在这里教过许多不同级别的……

And you've taught many different levels here… age groups here in Korea.

韩国的年龄组。您认为

What do you think are some of the challenges that teachers face, perhaps in general, or

教师面临的一些挑战是什么，也许是一般性的，或者将英语作为第二语言教学，尽管

teaching English as a second language, albeit here in Korea, or anywhere around the world?

在韩国或世界任何地方？嗯，这是……世界各地都不一样。

Um, it's… it's different around the world.

Some things are similar, some things are different.

有些事情是相似的，有些事情是不同的。

When you teach your younger learners, you have to engage them in a fun playful way because

当你教你的年轻学习者时，你必须以一种有趣的方式让他们参与进来，因为

maybe they don't have that internal motivation to study language.

他们可能没有学习语言的内在动力。

So you've got to engage them with your delivery, with your activities, with the content, you've

所以你必须让他们参与你的交付、你的活动和内容，

got to make it colorful.

你必须让它变得丰富多彩。然后，对于所有学生，

And then, with all the students, how you motivate them, is you're going to have to make it as

你如何激励他们，你是否必须让它尽可能有用，让它变得实用，

useful as possible, make it practical, so that they feel like they're learning.

让他们觉得自己在学习。因此，动力在所有方面都非常重要。

So motivation is very important across the board.

It… but it… it's different also the way that students are able to interact and do

它……但它……学生能够互动和进行活动的方式也不同。

activities.

例如，在南非和其他国家，你知道在西方，

For example, in South Africa, and other countries, you know in the West, we love talking about

我们喜欢谈论自己。我们……我们喜欢谈论自己。

ourselves.

We…

we love talking about ourselves.

嗯，你知道，嗯，嗯，我们喜欢，我们喜欢分享我们的经历。

Um, you know, uh, and uh, we like, we love sharing our experiences.

We have no problem with talking to a group about who we are, you know.

你知道，我们与一群人谈论我们是谁没有问题。

A very individualistic society.

一个非常个人主义的社会。而在韩国，学生可能会

Whereas in Korea, the students might be shy because they might get judged in a group.

害羞，因为他们可能会在一个小组中受到评判。所以，嗯，它是...... 设置

So, um, it's… it's very important to set up your class for success, to show the students

你的班级以取得成功非常重要，向学生展示你会在这个班级里玩得开心，

that in this class you're going to have fun, but you have to speak and… and it's, it's

但你必须说话......而且，把它说出来非常重要其中。

very important to get that out of them.

So yeah, um, different challenges, some things are the same, but there are things that you

所以是的，嗯，不同的挑战，有些事情是一样的，

但是有些事情你可以改变，这在国家之间会有些不同。

can change that are a little bit different between the countries.

这是一个很好的观点，因为我记得我，呃，开始教书的时候。

That's a great point because I remember when I, uh, began teaching.

Um, I think it was middle school or high school students here in Korea, and I would ask them

嗯，我想是韩国的初中或高中生，

我会问他们一个问题，就像在加拿大一样，我来自

a question expecting like it would be in Canada, where I’m from, where you know many students

哪里，你知道很多学生会举手 - 没有人会举手。

would raise their hand - and nobody would raise their hand.

And I thought, this is quite frustrating.

我想，这很令人沮丧。我不知道为什么……为什么没有人

I don't know why…

why doesn't anyone want to answer me?

想回答我？我不明白。

I don't understand.

And then a co-worker of mine said they're not being rude, they just… they're not used

然后我的一个同事说他们不是粗鲁，他们只是……他们不习惯

to doing this type of thing in the classroom because that's not normal activity in a Korean

在教室里做这种事情，因为这不是韩国教室里的正常活动。

classroom.

所以我想另一个挑战是理解一些小文化花絮，嗯，

So I guess another one of the challenges would be understanding little cultural tidbits,

too, um, when you're dealing with students in Korea, or wherever you are in the world.

当你与韩国的学生打交道时，或者你在世界的任何地方。

Understanding where the students are coming from can help you a lot, too, I guess.

我想，了解学生的来源对你也有很大帮助。

100 percent.

100％的。嗯，我认为

Um, I think this is an interesting concept in education and that is scaffolding.

这是教育中一个有趣的概念，那就是脚手架。

‘scaffolding’ is basically when you build a house you want to you want to scaffold it

“脚手架”基本上是当你建造你想要搭建的房子时

- you want to create certain parts first, and then add on top of that.

——你想先创建某些部分，然后在上面添加。

Now scaffolding, scaffolding, can be used in different ways.

现在脚手架，脚手架，可以以不同的方式使用。

When you scaffold a lesson for example, you can scaffold by first introducing some vocabulary,

例如，当你上一课时，你可以先介绍一些词汇，

然后你可以在一个句子中给出一些例子。然后你可以举一些

Then you can give some examples in a sentence.

Then you can give some examples from your own life.

你自己生活中的例子。你给……你向学生展示如何去做。

You give… you show the students how to do it.

You write it on the board and then you ask them simple questions so that, little by little,

你把它写在黑板上，然后问他们一些简单的问题，这样他们就会一点一点

they are learning instead of giving them a whole sentence, or a whole dialogue to do,

地学习，而不是给他们一个完整的句子或整个对话来做，

you're doing it step by step.

你是在一步一步地做。 当你教任何水平的学生时

And that is very important to understand when you teach any level of student.

，理解这一点非常重要 。 如果你在教年轻的学习者，你会

If you're teaching young learners, you're going to start in a very simple way and then

从一个非常简单的方式开始，然后逐步进行。如果你在教高级学生，同样的

work it up.

If you're teaching advanced students, the same concept, the same idea applies where

概念，同样的想法适用于你要一步一步教他们的地方。

you're going to teach them step by step.

And scaffolding, I believe, can also be applied to communication with students.

我相信，脚手架也可以应用于与学生的交流。

When a student comes into class, you want to ask them simple questions to get them talking

当一个学生进入课堂时，你想问他们简单的问题，

让他们说话，让他们舒服。所以你可以问，“哦，你今天过得怎么样？”

and get them comfortable.

So you can ask, “Oh, how was your day?”

他们会说，“很好”，或者呃，“你喜欢……你吃午饭了吗？是的？不？”

And they will say, “It was fine,” or uh, “Do you like…

Did you eat lunch?

Yes?

No?”

所以它让他们说话。然后当你开始上课时，

So it gets them talking.

Then when you start the lesson, you're going to start off by asking simple questions, uh,

你会从问简单的问题开始，呃，创建简单的对话，让

creating simple dialogues making them comfortable to speak in class.

他们在课堂上说话很舒服。我相信

I believe that's a vital skill to learn is to scaffold the way that you teach and scaffold

学习的一项重要技能是搭建你的教学方式，搭建你与他人交流的方式。

the way that you communicate with others.

Very good.

很好。所以让我们谈谈你做的直播。

So let's talk about the live streams that you do.

你简单地谈到了它。你每个周末都做。

You touched on it briefly.

You do them every single weekend.

Every Sunday night at 10 p.m.

每个星期天晚上 10 点晚上 10 点正确。

At 10 p.m. correct.

10 p.m. Korean time or 1 p.m. GMT.

韩国时间晚上 10 点或格林威治标准时间下午 1 点。然后你每次做这些大约一个小时……

And then you do these for about an hour each… each time or does the time vary?

每次还是时间不同？正好一小时。

One hour exactly.

And… and sometimes I invite other teachers, or interesting guests to come on.

而且……有时我会邀请其他老师或有趣的客人来。

例如，嗯，昨天星期二……今天是几号？

So for example, um, yesterday Tues… what's the date today?

Today's Tuesday.

今天星期二。两天前，呃，我请了一位

Two days ago, uh, I had an Indian teacher on and she was just brilliant sharing a lot

印度老师，她非常出色，与我们分享了很多知识和智慧。

of knowledge and wisdom with us.

很好。所以，有时候，只是我

Very good.

So, sometimes, it's just me talking very fast and talking to other teachers.

说得很快，和其他老师说话。其他时候，我邀请客人。

And other times, I invite guests on.

Fantastic, uh, what a wonderful resource for teachers and students alike.

太棒了，嗯，对老师和学生来说都是一个很棒的资源。

And maybe you can talk about that a little bit because, uh, the website is not necessarily

也许你可以谈谈这个，因为，呃，这个网站不一定

just for teachers, correct?

是为教师准备的，对吗？或者频道，请问？

Or the channel, excuse me?

Well, it's interesting.

嗯，这很有趣。许多语言学习者加入了我的频道

Many language learners have joined my channel because they come for listening practice and

，因为他们来听力练习并与我互动。

they interact with me.

他们给我发信息，或者他们问我问题，或者他们分享他们生活的一部分。

They send me messages, or they ask me questions, or they share parts of their lives.

而且我认为……我希望它也对他们有用，

And I think…

I hope that it's useful for them, too, because a lot of the… the lessons and the videos

因为我发布的很多……课程和视频也可以被语言学习者使用。

I put out, can be used by language learners, too.

显然，我的……我的观众大多是老师，因为我试图帮助他们，但如果它对

Obviously, my…

my viewers are mostly teachers because I try and help them, but if it's useful to language

语言学习者有用，它……它使……它让我很高兴我也可以帮助其他人。

learners, it… it makes… it makes me happy that I can help other people, too.

Are there books as well?

还有书吗？我确实有一些书。

I do have some books.

I’ve got one book that is 1,000 English Questions and Answers.

我有一本书是 1000 个英语问答。

Oh, wow.

哦，哇。所以基本上，我找到了 50 个主题，我

So basically, I found 50 topics and I wrote out 20 questions for each topic and 20 answers.

为每个主题写了 20 个问题和 20 个答案。我的很多观众，老师，

And a lot of my viewers, teachers, use it in class with their students.

在课堂上和他们的学生一起使用它。许多英语学习者用它来学习

And a lot of English learners use it to learn what are some… some basic questions and

一些……一些基本问题以及如何回答。这就是我创作的一本书。

how to answer it.

So that is one of the books that I created.

Very cool.

很酷。为什么老师要拜访，呃，

Why should teachers visit, uh, Etacude English Teachers?

Etacude English Teachers？

What's the number one main reason teachers should visit your channel?

教师应该访问您的频道 的首要 原因是什么？ 我相信，嗯，如果你是一个老师，你

I believe that, um, if you're a teacher, you can come to the channel, and you're going

可以来这个频道，你会发现一些关于教育的有趣的信息。

to find out some interesting information about education.

You're going to find hundreds of activities that you can use in class.

您将找到数百个可以在课堂上使用的活动。

You're going to find a community of teachers that support each other.

你会找到一个相互支持的教师社区。

还有很多免费资源，你可以在课堂上使用，让

And a lot of free resources that you can use in your class to make life as a teacher just

教师的生活变得更好。没有理由不去拜访

much better.

There's literally no reason not to visit Etacude English teachers.

Etacude 的英语老师。欢迎大家。

Everyone's welcome.

嗯，我……我非常感谢每一位老师，和英语学习者，或者任何人，

Um, I…

I’m so grateful for every teacher, and English learner, or person, or whoever wants to come

或者任何想来频道的人。嗯，我喜欢提供帮助，这就是

to the channel.

Um, I love to help and that's what the channel is for.

频道的用途。很好。

Very good.

Well Mr. Eric Wesch, it was a pleasure to speak with you.

Eric Wesch 先生，很高兴与您交谈。

It was wonderful to learn about Etacude English Teachers.

了解 Etacude 英语教师真是太棒了。

祝贺你取得了成功，我希望你在未来取得更多成就。

Congratulations on your success that you've had and I wish you more of that in the future.

It was a real pleasure to meet you and… and chat with you today.

很高兴见到你并且……今天和你聊天。

And I thank you.

我谢谢你。非常感谢

Thank you so much Steve for having me and everybody else out there watching that I hope

史蒂夫让我和其他所有人观看，我希望你有一个美好的一周

you have a fantastic week and, uh, we'll see you next time.

，嗯，我们下次再见。访问 Eric 的频道 Etacude 英语教师。

Visit Eric's channel Etacude English Teachers.

And if you're looking for more of me, you can visit my own channel, called Story Time:

如果你想了解更多我，你可以访问我自己的频道，叫做 Story Time: Steve

Steve Hatherly.

Hatherly。你也可以在 YouTube 上找到它。埃里克，你必须要订阅我的

You can find that on YouTube as well.

Eric you have to you have to subscribe to my channel for sure, yeah?

频道，是吗？ 100%。

100%.

Fantastic.

极好的。而且我会……我也会

And I'll…

报答这个人情，嗯，好吧。好吧，埃里克再次非常感谢你。

I'll return the favor as well, uh, all right.

Well once again Eric thank you so much.

注意安全。要开心。

Be safe.

保持健康，我希望有一天能再次和你聊天。

Be happy.

再见。

Be healthy and I hope to chat with you again someday.

Bye.