Jay Silver: Hack a banana, make a keyboard!

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Translator: Joseph Geni Reviewer: Morton Bast
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譯者: Olivia Lo 審譯者: NAN-KUN WU
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Hey guys.
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嗨,大家好!
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It's funny, someone just mentioned MacGyver,
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很有趣,有人剛剛提到了馬蓋先
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because that was, like, I loved it,
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因為我超愛他
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and when I was seven, I taped a fork to a drill
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七歲的時候,我用膠布把叉子綑在鑽孔機上
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and I was like, "Hey, Mom, I'm going to Olive Garden."
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然後說:「媽,我要到橄欖園餐廳去。」
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And -- (Drilling noise) (Laughter)
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然後--(鑽孔聲)(笑聲)
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And it worked really well there.
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它運作得挺不錯的
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And you know, it had a profound effect on me.
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這對我有很深的影響
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It sounds silly, but I thought, okay,
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聽起來很蠢,但是我那時候想,嗯
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the way the world works can be changed,
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世界運作的方式也可能被改變
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and it can be changed by me in these small ways.
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而且能被我用小小的方式改變
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And my relationship to
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我和事物的關係--
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especially human-made objects
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特別是那些人工作出來的東西--
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which someone else said they work like this,
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當別人說它們是這樣運作的
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well, I can say they work a different way, a little bit.
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我則會說它們可以以別的方式運作
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And so, about 20 years later,
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因此,大約二十年後,
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I didn't realize the full effect of this,
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我還不知道這件事對我的影響,
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but I went to Costa Rica
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我去了趟哥斯大黎加
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and I stayed with these Guaymí natives there,
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和當地的瓜伊米部族住在一起,
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and they could pull leaves off of trees and make shingles out of them,
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他們會取下樹葉,然後做成屋頂
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and they could make beds out of trees,
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也會用樹木作床
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and they could -- I watched this woman for three days.
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還會--我觀察一名婦女觀察了三天
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I was there. She was peeling this palm frond apart,
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我在那兒,她把棕櫚葉剝成一條條,
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these little threads off of it, and she'd roll the threads together
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成了細小的絲線,再將絲線纏在一起
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and make little thicker threads, like strings,
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作成一條條更粗一些的線,像繩子一樣
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and she would weave the strings together,
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然後她編織這些細繩,
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and as the materiality of this exact very bag
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成了這個包包的材料
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formed before my eyes over those three days,
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就在我眼前,以三天的時間形成,
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the materiality of the way the world works,
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這個世界運作的方式
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of reality, kind of started to unravel in my mind,
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現實運作的方式,開始在我腦中清晰起來,
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because I realized that this bag and these clothes
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因為我發現,這個包包、這些衣物
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and the trampoline you have at home and the pencil sharpener,
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你家裡的跳床和削鉛筆機,
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everything you have is made out of either a tree or a rock
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你所擁有的一切,不是由一棵樹製成, 就是從一顆石頭作來
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or something we dug out of the ground and did some process to,
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要不,便是我們從地下挖出某樣東西, 再經過一些加工得來
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maybe a more complicated one, but still, everything was made that way.
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也許過程更複雜, 但所有的東西仍是如此製造而成
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And so I had to start studying,
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所以我就開始研究,
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who is it that's making these decisions?
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是誰做這些決定的?
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Who's making these things? How did they make them?
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是誰作出這些東西的?他們又是如何製作的?
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What stops us from making them?
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為何我們不再製造它們?
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Because this is how reality is created.
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因為這是現實被創造出來的方式
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So I started right away. I was at MIT Media Lab,
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所以我立即開始
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and I was studying the maker movement
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我在MIT媒體研究團隊研究製造者的活動、
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and makers and creativity.
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製造者本身和創造力
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And I started in nature, because I saw these Guaymís
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我從大自然起頭,因為我看見 那些瓜伊米人從大自然取材造物
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doing it in nature, and there just seems to be less barriers.
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而大自然裡似乎較少阻礙
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So I went to Vermont to Not Back to School Camp,
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我到佛蒙特州的「不返校」營隊
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where there's unschoolers who are just kind of hanging out
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在那兒有一些沒上學的孩子遊手好閒
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and willing to try anything.
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卻願意嘗試任何事情
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So I said, "Let's go into the woods near this stream
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因此我說,我們就到那小河旁的樹林裡頭
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and just put stuff together, you know, make something,
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把東西兜在一起,作出一些東西
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I don't care, geometrical shapes, just grab some junk from around you.
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我不管,幾何圖形也好,只要從身旁找一些垃圾
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We won't bring anything with us.
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我們不帶任何東西
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And, like, within minutes, this is very easy for adults
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然後,大概幾分鐘內--
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and teens to do.
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這對大人和年輕人來說相當容易--
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Here's a triangle that was being formed underneath a flowing stream,
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有個三角形便在流水底下形成了
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and the shape of an oak leaf being made
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還有一個橡木樹葉的圖形
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by other small oak leaves being put together.
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是由其他小片的橡木樹葉拼湊在一起而成的
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A leaf tied to a stick with a blade of grass.
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用草綁在木棍上的葉子
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The materiality and fleshiness and meat of the mushroom
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香菇的材質和菇肉也被拿來做實驗
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being explored by how it can hold up different objects being stuck into it.
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看看它能造出哪些不同的東西
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And after about 45 minutes, you get really intricate projects
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45分鐘後,一些相當精巧繁複的作品出來了
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like leaves sorted by hue, so you get a color fade
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像是把顏色區分後,得到的漸近色
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and put in a circle like a wreath.
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擺成一個圓圈,便成了花環
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And the creator of this, he said,
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而這個作品的創作者,他說
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"This is fire. I call this fire."
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「這是火,我把它叫作火。」
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And someone asked him, "How do you get those sticks
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有人問他:「你是怎麼讓這些木棒
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to stay on that tree?"
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停留在那棵樹上的?」
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And he's like, "I don't know, but I can show you."
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他說:「我也不知道,但是我可以做給你看。」
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And I'm like, "Wow, that's really amazing.
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我說:「哇!這實在是太驚人了。
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He doesn't know, but he can show you."
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他不知道怎麼說,但他卻能夠做給你看。」
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So his hands know and his intuition knows,
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他的手知道,他的直覺知道
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but sometimes what we know gets in the way
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有時候,我們所知道的東西,
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of what could be, especially
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就是以它可能成為的樣子得來的
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when it comes to the human-made, human-built world.
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尤其是當我們說到人工製作、人工建造的世界
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We think we already know how something works,
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我們以為我們已經知道事物是如何運作的
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so we can't imagine how it could work.
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所以我們就想不到它還能怎麼運作
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We know how it's supposed to work,
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我們知道它應該是怎麼運作
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so we can't suppose all the things that could be possible.
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所以我們就沒想到所有的事情都是有可能的
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So kids don't have as hard of a time with this,
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因此孩子們就不會感到困難
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and I saw in my own son, I gave him this book.
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我自己的兒子就是如此,我給他這本書
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I'm a good hippie dad, so I'm like,
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我是個嬉皮的好爸爸,我就說
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"Okay, you're going to learn to love the moon.
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「好,現在你要學著愛月亮。
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I'm going to give you some building blocks
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我要給你一些積木
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and they're nonrectilinear cactus building blocks,
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它們是一些非直線的仙人掌積木,
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so it's totally legit."
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所以它是完全正統的。」
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But he doesn't really know what to do with these.
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但是他不太曉得該怎麼運用這些東西
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I didn't show him.
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我沒有秀給他看
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And so he's like, "Okay, I'll just mess around with this."
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所以他就想:「好,我就隨便亂弄吧。」
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This is no different than the sticks are to the teens in the forest.
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這和樹林中的少年們 使用那些樹枝的方式沒什麼兩樣--
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Just going to try to put them in shapes
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試著把它們拼湊成一個形狀就對了
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and push on them and stuff.
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然後在上面堆疊東西
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And before long, he's kind of got this mechanism
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不久後,他有點抓到技巧了
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where you can almost launch and catapult objects around,
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他發現他可以四處投擲或彈射這些物品
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and he enlists us in helping him.
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然後他要求我們的幫助
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And at this point, I'm starting to wonder,
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就在這時,我開始在想
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what kind of tools can we give people,
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在人們的日常生活中
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especially adults, who know too much,
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特別是那些已經知道太多道理的大人們
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so that they can see the world as malleable,
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我們能夠給予他們什麼樣的工具
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so they see themselves as agents of change
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讓他們將世界視為可被塑造的
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in their everyday lives.
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讓他們將自己視為改變的媒介
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Because the most advanced scientists are really
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因為,大部份先進的科學家
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just kind of pushing the way the world itself works,
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其實只是在世界本身運作的方式中開闊出一條路
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pushing what matter can do,
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在事物能做到的事情上開路
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the most advanced artists are just pushing the medium,
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而大部分先進的藝術家也只是在媒介中開路
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and any sufficiently complicated task,
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任何夠複雜的任務
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whether you're a cook or a carpenter or you're raising a child --
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不管你是廚師或是木匠或是在撫養孩子--
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anything that's complicated --
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任何複雜的事情--
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comes up with problems that aren't solved in the middle of it,
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在實作時會遇到的問題, 都無法從這些路當中獲得解決之道
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and you can't do a good job getting it done unless you can say,
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你無法把這些事做好,除非你說:
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"Okay, well we're just going to have to refigure this.
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「好,我們得重新弄清楚這回事。
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I don't care that pencils are supposed to be for writing.
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我不管鉛筆是不是應該被用來寫字。
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I'm going to use them a different way."
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我要用不同的方式使用它們。」
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So let me show you a little demo.
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讓我稍稍示範給你們看。
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This is a little piano circuit right in here,
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這裡有一個小小的鋼琴電路板
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and this is an ordinary paintbrush
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而這是一個普通的水彩筆
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that I smashed it together with. (Beeping)
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我把兩者結合在一起(嗶嗶聲)
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And so, with some ketchup,
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然後,用一些番茄醬
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— (musical notes) —
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--(樂聲)--
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and then I can kind of
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接著我就可以
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— (musical notes) —
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--(樂聲)--
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(Laughter) (Applause)
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(笑聲)(掌聲)
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And that's awesome, right?
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這超酷的,不是嗎?
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But this is not what's awesome.
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但是酷的不是這個東西
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What's awesome is what happens
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酷的是,當你把鋼琴電路板給了人們
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when you give the piano circuit to people.
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它所會發生的事情
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A pencil is not just a pencil.
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鉛筆不只是鉛筆
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Look what it has in the middle of it.
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看看這支筆中間
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That's a wire running down the middle,
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有一條電線被穿在鉛筆中心
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and not only is it a wire,
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它不僅是一條電線
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if you take that piano circuit, you can thumbtack
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如果你將鋼琴電路板用圖釘
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into the middle of a pencil,
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釘入鉛筆之中
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and you can lay out wire on the page, too,
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你就能使這條電線延展到紙張上
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and get electrical current to run through it.
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電流同樣會通過紙上的線
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And so you can kind of hack a pencil,
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所以,將一個小小的鋼琴電路板
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just by thumbtacking into it with a little piano electrical circuit.
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用圖釘釘入鉛筆之中, 你就能改變了鉛筆的「程式」
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And the electricity runs through your body too.
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電也會通過你的身體
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And then you can take the little piano circuit off the pencil.
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接著,你可以把鋼琴電路板拿走
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You can make one of these brushes just on the fly.
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讓水彩筆開始它的「系統運作」
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All you do is connect to the bristles,
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你要做的,就只是讓刷毛通上電路
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and the bristles are wet, so they conduct,
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刷毛是濕的,所以導電
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and the person's body conducts,
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人體也能導電
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and leather is great to paint on,
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皮革是很好塗畫的材質
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and then you can start hooking to everything,
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然後你就可以把電路板接上所有的事物
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even the kitchen sink.
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甚至是廚房的洗水槽
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The metal in the sink is conductive.
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水槽的金屬也是導電體
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Flowing water acts like a theremin or a violin.
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流出來的水就會變成特雷門 (一種電子樂器)或小提琴
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(Musical notes)
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(樂聲)
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And you can even hook to the trees.
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你甚至可以接在樹上
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Anything in the world is either conductive or not conductive,
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世界上所有的東西 不是可以導電就是無法導電
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and you can use those together.
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你能把這些東西接在一起
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So — (Laughter) —
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因此--(笑聲)--
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I took this to those same teens, because those teens are
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我把這玩意帶給那些年輕人,因為這些小夥子
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really awesome, and they'll try things that I won't try.
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真的超厲害,他們會嘗試我不會去試的事物
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I don't even have access to a facial piercing if I wanted to.
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就算我想接在鼻環耳洞 之類的地方我也沒得接
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And this young woman, she made what she called a hula-looper,
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這個年輕女孩,她做了這個「呼拉圈」
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and as the hula hoop traveled around her body,
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呼拉圈繞行她的身體
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she has a circuit taped to her shirt right there.
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同時她將電路板黏在衣服上
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You can see her pointing to it in the picture.
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如同她在這張圖中指著的地方
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And every time the hula hoop would smush against her body,
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每當呼拉圈壓過她的身體
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it would connect two little pieces of copper tape,
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她的身體就會和呼拉圈上的兩條小銅片通電
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and it would make a sound, and the next sound,
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然後發出聲音,接著又有下一個聲音
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and it would loop the same sounds over and over again.
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同樣的聲音會一次次地跟著呼拉圈循環
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I ran these workshops everywhere.
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我到各地舉辦這些工作坊
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In Taiwan, at an art museum, this 12-year-old girl
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在台灣的一間美術館,這個十二歲的女孩
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made a mushroom organ out of some mushrooms that were from Taiwan
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做了一個香菇管風琴,是用台灣的香菇
07:13
and some electrical tape and hot glue.
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一些電路條和熱熔膠製成的
07:15
And professional designers were making artifacts
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專業的設計師也把電路條綑在東西上
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with this thing strapped onto it.
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做出手工藝品來
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And big companies like Intel
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大公司,像是Intel
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or smaller design firms like Ideo or startups like Bump,
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或是一些比較小的設計公司 如Ideo以及一些新成立的公司如Bump
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were inviting me to give workshops,
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都邀請我舉辦這些工作坊
07:26
just to practice this idea of smashing electronics
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實踐出電子器具
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and everyday objects together.
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和日常物品結合在一起的想法
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And then we came up with this idea
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然後,我們有了一個想法
07:33
to not just use electronics,
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不要只是用電子器具
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but let's just smash computers with everyday objects
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而是試著將電腦和日常物品結合
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and see how that goes over.
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看看會發生什麼事
07:40
And so I just want to do a quick demo.
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讓我很快的示範一下
07:44
So this is the MaKey MaKey circuit,
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這是Makey Makey面板
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and I'm just going to set it up from the beginning in front of you.
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我要將它從頭設置給你們看
07:49
So I'll just plug it in, and now it's on by USB.
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我只要將它用USB插上
07:53
And I'll just hook up the forward arrow.
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我把上方向鍵接好
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You guys are facing that way, so I'll hook it to this one.
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因為你們都面對那個方向,所以我接上這一片披薩
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And I'll just hook up a little ground wire to it.
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然後我只要把接地線接上
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And now, if I touch this piece of pizza,
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現在,如果我碰這片披薩
08:06
the slides that I showed you before should go forward.
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你們看見的投影片就會換到下一張
08:09
And now if I hook up this wire just by connecting it
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現在如果我將電線接上左方向鍵
08:12
to the left arrow, I'm kind of programming it by where I hook it up,
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我就像是在寫連接它的物體的程式一樣
08:15
now I have a left arrow and a right arrow,
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現在我有了左方向鍵和右方向鍵
08:18
so I should be able to go forwards and backwards
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所以我就有辦法換到下一張、上一張
08:21
and forwards and backwards. Awesome.
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下一張、上一張。超酷。
08:24
And so we're like, "We gotta put a video out about this."
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所以我們覺得我們應該 為這東西做一部影片
08:26
Because no one really believed that this was important
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因為除了我和另一個傢伙外
08:29
or meaningful except me and, like, one other guy.
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沒人真的相信這東西是很重要而且很有意義的
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So we made a video to prove that
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因此我們就做了一個影片
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there's lots of stuff you can do.
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來證明你可以做出很多東西
08:35
You can kind of sketch with Play-Doh
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你可以用彩色黏土大概做出一個鍵盤
08:37
and just Google for game controllers.
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只要google遊戲控制器的樣子就可以了
08:41
Just ordinary Play-Doh, nothing special.
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只要普通的彩色黏土,不需要什麼特別的道具
08:44
And you can literally draw joysticks
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你可以畫出搖桿
08:45
and just find Pacman on your computer and then just hook it up. (Video game noises)
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在電腦上找出早期的那種電玩, 然後接上去(電玩聲音)
08:53
And you know the little plastic drawers you can get at Target?
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你們知道Target在賣的那些小塑膠抽屜嗎?
08:56
Well, if you take those out, they hold water great,
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如果你把抽屜抽出來,它們超適合裝水
08:58
but you can totally cut your toes,
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但你可能因此切掉腳趾頭
09:00
so yeah, just be careful.
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所以呢,要小心點
09:03
You know the Happiness Project, where the experts
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在「幸福計畫」中,專家們
09:06
are setting up the piano stairs, and how cool that is?
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設置了一座鋼琴樓梯,酷嗎?
09:09
Well, I think it's cool,
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我覺得那很酷
09:10
but we should be doing that stuff ourselves.
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但是我們應該自己動手做出這類東西
09:12
It shouldn't be a set of experts engineering the way the world works.
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不該僅由一群專家們來設計出世界運作的方式
09:15
We should all be participating
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我們全都應該一起參與
09:17
in changing the way the world works together.
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改變世界運作的方式
09:19
Aluminum foil. Everybody has a cat.
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鋁箔紙,每個人都有一隻貓
09:21
Get a bowl of water. This is just Photo Booth on your Mac OS.
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拿一碗水,這就成了你Mac OS裡的快照機
09:25
Hover the mouse over the "take a photo" button,
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將滑鼠移到「照相」鈕上
09:27
and you've got a little cat photo booth.
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你就有了一個小小的貓咪快照機
09:28
And so we needed hundreds of people to buy this.
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所以我們需要許多人買這個面板
09:31
If hundreds of people didn't buy this, we couldn't put it on the market.
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如果許多人都不買,我們就不能在市場上販售
09:34
And so we put it up on Kickstarter,
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所以我們就把這個計畫放在Kickstarter網站上
09:37
and hundreds of people bought it in the first day.
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第一天就有上百人買了
09:40
And then 30 days later,
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30天後
09:41
11,000 people had backed the project.
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已有11000個人資助這個計畫
09:44
And then what the best part is, we started getting
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最棒的是,我們開始收到
09:46
a flood of videos in of people doing crazy things with it.
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一大堆影片,都是人們用這個面板所作的瘋狂事物
09:50
So this is "The Star-Spangled Banner" by eating lunch,
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這是在吃午餐時所一邊演奏出來的美國國歌〈星條旗〉
09:53
including drinking Listerine.
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連漱口水也參上一腳
09:55
And we actually sent this guy materials.
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事實上我們還寄了一些材料給這傢伙
09:57
We're like, "We're sponsoring you, man.
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「老兄,我們要贊助你。
09:58
You're, like, a pro maker."
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你是個超專業的創作者。」
10:00
Okay, just wait for this one. This is good.
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好,等等,這個超棒
10:04
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
10:06
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
10:09
And these guys at the exploratorium are
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而這些在探索博物館的傢伙
10:11
playing house plants as if they were drums.
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他們將居家植物當作鼓一樣在打
10:16
And dads and daughters are completing circuits in special ways.
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這對父女用特別的方式來連接電路
10:20
And then this brother -- look at this diagram.
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還有這個小弟弟--看看這張圖
10:22
See where it says "sister"?
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看見上面寫著「姐姐」的地方了嗎?
10:23
I love when people put humans on the diagram.
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我喜歡人們把人物放在圖表中
10:26
I always add humans to any technical --
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我總是把人加在任何科技的--
10:28
if you're drawing a technical diagram, put a human in it.
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如果你在畫一張技術圖表,把人放進去
10:30
And this kid is so sweet. He made this trampoline slideshow advancer for his sister
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這個小孩很可愛, 他為他的姐姐製作了這個跳床幻燈片大冒險
10:35
so that on her birthday, she could be the star of the show,
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所以在她生日那天,她就可以成為大明星
10:37
jumping on the trampoline to advance the slides.
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在跳床上跳躍,讓投影片跳到下一張
10:40
And this guy rounded up his dogs and he made a dog piano.
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而這個人把他的狗聚在一起,做出一個狗鋼琴
10:46
And this is fun,
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這很好玩
10:48
and what could be more useful than feeling alive and fun?
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活潑生動和好玩有趣的感受 比任何事物都來得有益
10:51
But it's also very serious because
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但這同時也是相當嚴肅的
10:53
all this accessibility stuff started coming up,
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因為所有這些可取得的東西開始出現在
10:56
where people can't use computers, necessarily.
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無法使用電腦的人們身邊
10:59
Like this dad who wrote us, his son has cerebral palsy
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像這位父親,他寫信給我們,他的兒子有腦性麻痺
11:01
and he can't use a normal keyboard.
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所以他不能使用一般的鍵盤
11:03
And so his dad couldn't necessarily afford
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他的父親實在無法負擔
11:07
to buy all these custom controllers.
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量身訂做的控制器
11:09
And so, with the MaKey MaKey, he planned to make
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因此,有了Makey Makey,他打算做出
11:10
these gloves to allow him to navigate the web.
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這些手套,讓他兒子能上網
11:13
And a huge eruption of discussion
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關於這些隨手可得的物品出現了爆多的討論
11:15
around accessibility came, and we're really excited about that.
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而我們真的對此感到很興奮
11:18
We didn't plan for that at all.
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我們根本沒想過事情會如此發展
11:20
And then all these professional musicians started using it,
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然後,所有的專業音樂家也開始使用它
11:23
like at Coachella, just this weekend
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像是在這禮拜的科切拉音樂節
11:25
Jurassic 5 was using this onstage,
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侏儸紀5號樂團就在台上使用它
11:28
and this D.J. is just from Brooklyn, right around here,
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還有這名DJ剛從布魯克林來,就在這個地方
11:32
and he put this up last month.
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他上個月設立了這個
11:34
And I love the carrot on the turntable.
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我超愛轉盤上面的紅蘿蔔
11:36
(Music: Massive Attack — "Teardrop")
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(音樂:強烈衝擊合唱團〈淚珠點點〉)
11:43
Most people cannot play them that way. (Laughter)
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大部分的人都不會這樣彈奏(笑聲)
11:46
And when this started to get serious,
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而當事情開始變得嚴肅起來
11:47
I thought, I'd better put a really serious warning label on the box that this comes in,
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我覺得我最好在面板的包裝盒上 附上一個很嚴肅的警告標籤
11:50
because otherwise people are going to be getting this
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因為人們將會開始獲得它
11:52
and they're going to be turning into agents of creative change,
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並開始成為創造性的改變者
11:54
and governments will be crumbling,
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政府會開始粉碎
11:56
and I wouldn't have told people, so I thought I'd better warn them.
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但我並沒有打算告訴人們這樣做, 所以我想我最好先警告他們
11:58
And I also put this little surprise. When you open the lid
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我也把這個小驚喜放了進去,當你打開箱子
12:00
of the box, it says, "The world is a construction kit."
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上面會寫:「世界是你的創造工具箱。」
12:03
And as you start to mess around this way,
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當你開始以這種方式亂弄一氣
12:05
I think that, in some small ways, you do start to see
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我覺得,在某些小方面,你真的會開始看見
12:08
the landscape of your everyday life
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日常生活的環境
12:10
a little bit more like something you could express yourself with,
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變得比較像是你能用來表達自我的東西
12:13
and a little bit more like you could participate
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變得比較像是你能一起參與創作的東西
12:15
in designing the future of the way the world works.
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創造出這個世界未來會運作的方式
12:18
And so next time you're on an escalator
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所以,下次如果你搭手扶梯時
12:22
and you drop an M&M by accident,
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不小心掉了一顆M&M巧克力
12:23
you know, maybe that's an M&M surfboard, not an escalator,
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或許那是M&M的衝浪板,而非手扶梯
12:26
so don't pick it up right away.
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所以別這麼快把它撿起來
12:28
Maybe take some more stuff out of your pockets
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或許你可以從口袋掏出更多東西
12:30
and throw it down, and maybe some chapstick, whatever.
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丟下去,也許是護唇膏,隨便都可以
12:33
I used to want to design a utopian society
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我曾經想要設計出一個烏托邦的社會
12:38
or a perfect world or something like that.
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一個完美的世界之類的
12:40
But as I'm kind of getting older
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但當我年紀漸長
12:42
and kind of messing with all this stuff,
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用這類東西亂弄一通時
12:44
I'm realizing that my idea of a perfect world
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我開始了解到,我心目中的完美是借
12:46
really can't be designed by one person
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真的不能只靠一個人
12:48
or even by a million experts.
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或是一百萬個專家設計出來
12:50
It's really going to be seven billion pairs of hands,
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而是要靠七十億雙手
12:53
each following their own passions,
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每一雙手都跟隨他們自己的熱情
12:55
and each kind of like a mosaic coming up
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每一雙手都像是一片馬賽克拼圖
12:58
and creating this world in their backyards
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在他們的後院或廚房
12:59
and in their kitchens.
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創造這個世界
13:01
And that's the world I really want to live in.
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那就是我真正想居住的世界
13:03
Thank you.
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謝謝
13:05
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
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