Deborah Gordon: What ants teach us about the brain, cancer and the Internet

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譯者: Regina Chu 審譯者: Helen Chang
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I study ants
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我研究螞蟻,
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in the desert, in the tropical forest
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在沙漠中,在熱帶雨林中,
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and in my kitchen,
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還有我家的廚房,
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and in the hills around Silicon Valley where I live.
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以及我住的矽谷四周的山丘上。
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I've recently realized that ants
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我最近才領悟到原來螞蟻
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are using interactions differently
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使用不同的互動法
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in different environments,
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在不同的環境中,
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and that got me thinking that we could learn from this
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而這使我不禁去想, 我們或許能從這件事
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about other systems,
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了解其他系統,
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like brains and data networks that we engineer,
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像大腦及我們設計出的數據網路,
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and even cancer.
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甚至癌症。
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So what all these systems have in common
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所以這些系統的共通點
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is that there's no central control.
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在於沒有中央控制。
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An ant colony consists of sterile female workers --
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蟻群是由不孕的雌性工蟻——
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those are the ants you see walking around —
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就是你看到四處走動的那些螞蟻——
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and then one or more reproductive females
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還有一隻或多隻能生育的雌蟻組成,
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who just lay the eggs.
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而這種雌蟻只下蛋。
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They don't give any instructions.
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牠們不下任何指令。
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Even though they're called queens,
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即使牠們被稱為蟻后,
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they don't tell anybody what to do.
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牠們也不會告訴任何螞蟻要做什麼。
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So in an ant colony, there's no one in charge,
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所以在蟻群內,沒有負責人。
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and all systems like this without central control
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所有像這樣沒有中央控制的系統,
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are regulated using very simple interactions.
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要以非常簡單的互動來規範。
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Ants interact using smell.
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螞蟻以嗅覺互動。
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They smell with their antennae,
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牠們以觸角聞味道,
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and they interact with their antennae,
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而且牠們也以觸角互動,
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so when one ant touches another with its antennae,
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所以當一隻螞蟻以觸角 碰觸另外一隻螞蟻,
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it can tell, for example, if the other ant
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牠就能分辨,譬如說這一隻
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is a nestmate
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是不是同窩蟻,
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and what task that other ant has been doing.
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還有這隻螞蟻正在做什麼任務。
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So here you see a lot of ants moving around
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所以這裡你看到很多螞蟻
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and interacting in a lab arena
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在這個實驗場所四處走動及互動,
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that's connected by tubes to two other arenas.
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這個場所與另外兩個以管子相連。
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So when one ant meets another,
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所以當某隻螞蟻碰到另一隻,
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it doesn't matter which ant it meets,
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碰到的是哪一隻螞蟻並不重要,
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and they're actually not transmitting
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而且牠們其實並沒有傳送
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any kind of complicated signal or message.
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任何複雜的信號或訊息。
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All that matters to the ant is the rate
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對螞蟻而言最重要的是
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at which it meets other ants.
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牠們碰到其他螞蟻的頻率。
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And all of these interactions, taken together,
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而所有的互動,全部一起看,
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produce a network.
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會產生一種網路。
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So this is the network of the ants
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那麼這就是螞蟻的網路,
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that you just saw moving around in the arena,
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由你剛剛看到的那個場所 裡面的移動所形成。
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and it's this constantly shifting network
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就是這個不斷移位的網路,
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that produces the behavior of the colony,
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產生蟻群的行為,
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like whether all the ants are hiding inside the nest,
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像是不是所有的螞蟻都躲在窩裡,
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or how many are going out to forage.
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或有多少在外面覓食。
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A brain actually works in the same way,
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大腦其實也以同樣的方法運作,
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but what's great about ants is
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但研究螞蟻最棒的地方,
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that you can see the whole network as it happens.
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在於你能親眼目睹整個網路形成。
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There are more than 12,000 species of ants,
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有超過一萬兩千種螞蟻,
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in every conceivable environment,
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存在於每一種可想到的環境中,
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and they're using interactions differently
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而牠們互動的方法也不同,
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to meet different environmental challenges.
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以因應不同的環境挑戰。
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So one important environmental challenge
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所以有一種很重要的環境挑戰,
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that every system has to deal with
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是每一種系統都必須面對的,
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is operating costs, just what it takes
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就是營業成本,就是到底要花多少
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to run the system.
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來經營系統。
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And another environmental challenge is resources,
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而另一種環境挑戰則是資源,
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finding them and collecting them.
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要找尋及收集資源。
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In the desert, operating costs are high
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在沙漠裡,營業成本很高,
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because water is scarce,
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因為水很稀少,
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and the seed-eating ants that I study in the desert
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而且我在沙漠中研究的 一種吃種子的螞蟻,
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have to spend water to get water.
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必須先用掉水才能得到水。
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So an ant outside foraging,
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所以一隻螞蟻在外面覓食,
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searching for seeds in the hot sun,
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在烈日下尋找種子,
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just loses water into the air.
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就會失去水分,釋放到空氣中。
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But the colony gets its water
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但這個蟻群會因此得到水份,
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by metabolizing the fats out of the seeds
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也就是從代謝牠們所吃的種子
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that they eat.
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所含的脂肪以得到水份,
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So in this environment, interactions are used
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所以在這樣的環境下,互動是要
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to activate foraging.
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動員覓食行為。
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An outgoing forager doesn't go out unless
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指派為覓食者的螞蟻,
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it gets enough interactions with returning foragers,
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在與回來的覓食蟻 得到足夠的互動前不會出去,
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and what you see are the returning foragers
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而你現在看到的是回來的覓食蟻,
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going into the tunnel, into the nest,
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進入隧道中,進入窩裡,
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and meeting outgoing foragers on their way out.
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與正要出去的覓食蟻互動。
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This makes sense for the ant colony,
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這種方法對蟻群而言很有道理,
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because the more food there is out there,
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因為外面的食物愈多,
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the more quickly the foragers find it,
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覓食蟻就能愈快找到食物,
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the faster they come back,
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牠們也就愈快回來,
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and the more foragers they send out.
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所以就會送更多的覓食蟻出去。
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The system works to stay stopped,
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這個系統的原理是保持不動,
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unless something positive happens.
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直到有好事發生。
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So interactions function to activate foragers.
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所以互動的功用 在促使覓食蟻開始活動。
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And we've been studying the evolution of this system.
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我們一直在研究這個系統的演化。
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First of all, there's variation.
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首先,這系統裡有變數。
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It turns out that colonies are different.
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結果證明每一種蟻群都不一樣。
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On dry days, some colonies forage less,
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在乾燥的日子, 某些蟻群的覓食行為會少一點,
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so colonies are different in how
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所以每個蟻群的不同點在於
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they manage this trade-off
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牠們如何權衡
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between spending water to search for seeds
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是要花掉水分以尋找種子,
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and getting water back in the form of seeds.
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還是要找種子回來以取得裡面的水。
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And we're trying to understand why
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我們試圖瞭解為什麼
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some colonies forage less than others
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某些蟻群的覓食行為較少,
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by thinking about ants as neurons,
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透過將螞蟻視為神經元的方法,
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using models from neuroscience.
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並使用神經科學的模式。
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So just as a neuron adds up its stimulation
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所以就像神經元會累積
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from other neurons to decide whether to fire,
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從別的神經元送來的刺激, 以決定是否發射,
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an ant adds up its stimulation from other ants
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螞蟻也會累積 從別的螞蟻傳來的刺激,
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to decide whether to forage.
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以決定是否出去覓食。
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And what we're looking for is whether there might be
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我們在找的是,是否在
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small differences among colonies
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各個蟻群間有微小的差異,
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in how many interactions each ant needs
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也就是螞蟻需要多少互動
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before it's willing to go out and forage,
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牠才願意出去覓食,
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because a colony like that would forage less.
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因為像那樣的蟻群可能較少覓食。
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And this raises an analogous question about brains.
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這也引發大家對大腦 產生類似的問題。
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We talk about the brain,
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我們談論大腦,
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but of course every brain is slightly different,
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但當然每個大腦都有少許不同,
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and maybe there are some individuals
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而或許有某些人,
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or some conditions
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或在某些情況下,
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in which the electrical properties of neurons are such
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神經元的電性質也像這樣,
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that they require more stimulus to fire,
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需要更多的刺激才能發射,
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and that would lead to differences in brain function.
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而那會導致大腦功能產生差異。
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So in order to ask evolutionary questions,
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所以為了要問進化的問題,
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we need to know about reproductive success.
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我們必須瞭解生殖成功率。
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This is a map of the study site
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這是研究地點的地圖,
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where I have been tracking this population
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我已經在那裡追蹤這種
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of harvester ant colonies for 28 years,
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收割蟻群 28 年了,
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which is about as long as a colony lives.
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這大約就是一個蟻群的壽命。
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Each symbol is a colony,
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每一個符號代表一個蟻群,
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and the size of the symbol is how many offspring it had,
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而符號的大小代表 這個蟻群有多少後代,
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because we were able to use genetic variation
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因為我們能用遺傳變異
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to match up parent and offspring colonies,
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去匹配親子蟻群,
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that is, to figure out which colonies
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也就是說,去找出哪個蟻群
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were founded by a daughter queen
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是哪一隻蟻后的女兒
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produced by which parent colony.
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所產生的。
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And this was amazing for me, after all these years,
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這對我而言很奇妙,在這些年之後,
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to find out, for example, that colony 154,
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能發現到,舉個例,蟻群 154,
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whom I've known well for many years,
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多年來我非常瞭解的一個蟻群,
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is a great-grandmother.
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居然是曾祖母。
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Here's her daughter colony,
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這是牠的女兒的蟻群,
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here's her granddaughter colony,
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這是牠的孫女的蟻群,
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and these are her great-granddaughter colonies.
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而這些是牠的曾孫女的蟻群。
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And by doing this, I was able to learn
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經由這麼做,我學到
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that offspring colonies resemble parent colonies
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後代蟻群與親代蟻群,
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in their decisions about which days are so hot
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在決定哪一天太熱,
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that they don't forage,
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不出去覓食這方面很相似,
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and the offspring of parent colonies
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而親代蟻群的後代,
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live so far from each other that the ants never meet,
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兩者住得很遠, 這些螞蟻從來沒有見過面,
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so the ants of the offspring colony
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所以後代蟻群的螞蟻,
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can't be learning this from the parent colony.
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不可能從牠們的親代蟻群學到這個。
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And so our next step is to look
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因此我們下一步要去找
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for the genetic variation underlying this resemblance.
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產生這種相似度的遺傳變異。
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So then I was able to ask, okay, who's doing better?
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所以我才能問,好,誰做得比較好?
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Over the time of the study,
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在做研究的這段時間,
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and especially in the past 10 years,
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特別是過去十年,
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there's been a very severe and deepening drought
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曾有非常嚴重且日益加深的乾旱,
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in the Southwestern U.S.,
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發生在美國西南部,
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and it turns out that the colonies that conserve water,
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結果是這些節約用水的蟻群,
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that stay in when it's really hot outside,
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就是在外面真的 很熱的時候還留在窩裡,
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and thus sacrifice getting as much food as possible,
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從而犧牲盡可能找最多食物的蟻群,
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are the ones more likely to have offspring colonies.
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愈有可能產生後代蟻群。
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So all this time, I thought that colony 154
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所以這些時間,我以為蟻群 154
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was a loser, because on really dry days,
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是輸家,因為在很乾燥的日子,
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there'd be just this trickle of foraging,
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牠們只有稀稀落落的覓食行為,
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while the other colonies were out
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而其他的蟻群都跑出去
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foraging, getting lots of food,
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覓食,獲得大量的食物,
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but in fact, colony 154 is a huge success.
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但其實,蟻群 154 非常成功。
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She's a matriarch.
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她是女族長。
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She's one of the rare great-grandmothers on the site.
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她是當地少有的曾祖母輩之一。
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To my knowledge, this is the first time
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據我所知,這也是第一次
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that we've been able to track
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我們能追蹤
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the ongoing evolution of collective behavior
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在自然的動物族群中
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in a natural population of animals
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持續進行的集體行為演化,
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and find out what's actually working best.
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並找出什麼是最佳的運作方式。
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Now, the Internet uses an algorithm
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那麼,網際網路使用一種演算法
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to regulate the flow of data
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以管理資料流,
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that's very similar to the one
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與這個非常相似,
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that the harvester ants are using to regulate
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就是收獲蟻在使用以管理
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the flow of foragers.
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覓食蟻的流程。
07:16
And guess what we call this analogy?
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你猜我們怎麼叫這種類比?
07:19
The anternet is coming.
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蟻際網路來了!
07:21
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
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So data doesn't leave the source computer
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所以資料不會從源計算機輸出,
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unless it gets a signal that there's enough bandwidth
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直到它得到信號,有足夠的頻寬
07:29
for it to travel on.
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讓資料傳出去。
07:32
In the early days of the Internet,
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在網際網路發展早期,
07:33
when operating costs were really high
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當營業成本還很高,
07:35
and it was really important not to lose any data,
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而且很重要 不能失去任何資料的時期,
07:38
then the system was set up for interactions
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系統被設成互動
07:41
to activate the flow of data.
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以啟動資料流。
07:44
It's interesting that the ants are using an algorithm
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有趣的是螞蟻會使用一種演算法,
07:46
that's so similar to the one that we recently invented,
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與我們最近發明的非常相似,
07:50
but this is only one of a handful of ant algorithms
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但這只是我們所知的
07:53
that we know about,
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螞蟻演算法之一罷了,
07:54
and ants have had 130 million years
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螞蟻有一億三千萬年的時間
07:58
to evolve a lot of good ones,
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發展很多很好的演算法,
08:00
and I think it's very likely
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我想非常有可能
08:01
that some of the other 12,000 species
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在其他一萬二千種螞蟻中,
08:04
are going to have interesting algorithms
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能找到有趣的演算法
08:06
for data networks
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給資料網路使用,
08:07
that we haven't even thought of yet.
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是我們想都沒想過的。
08:10
So what happens when operating costs are low?
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所以,營業成本低的時候 會發生什麼?
08:13
Operating costs are low in the tropics,
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熱帶地方的營業成本低,
08:15
because it's very humid, and it's easy for the ants
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因為那裡很濕,螞蟻很容易
08:17
to be outside walking around.
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在外面走來走去。
08:20
But the ants are so abundant
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但在熱帶地方,
08:22
and diverse in the tropics
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螞蟻量很大,種類極多,
08:23
that there's a lot of competition.
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因此競爭也很激烈。
08:26
Whatever resource one species is using,
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某種螞蟻在使用的資源,
08:28
another species is likely to be using that
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別的螞蟻可能在同時間
08:31
at the same time.
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也需要使用。
08:33
So in this environment, interactions are used
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所以在這種環境,互動的使用法
08:36
in the opposite way.
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恰好相反。
08:38
The system keeps going
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系統要持續運轉,
08:39
unless something negative happens,
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直到負面事件發生。
08:41
and one species that I study makes circuits
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而我在研究的某種螞蟻 還會形成迴路,
08:43
in the trees of foraging ants
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覓食蟻在蟻窩到食物源
08:45
going from the nest to a food source and back,
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往來的樹上
08:48
just round and round,
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不斷繞圈圈,
08:50
unless something negative happens,
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直到某件負面事件發生為止,
08:51
like an interaction
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像是與別種螞蟻
08:53
with ants of another species.
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有了互動。
08:55
So here's an example of ant security.
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所以這是螞蟻的保全案例。
08:58
In the middle, there's an ant
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在中間有一隻螞蟻
09:00
plugging the nest entrance with its head
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正以牠的頭堵住窩的入口,
09:03
in response to interactions with another species.
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回應牠與另一種螞蟻互動的結果。
09:06
Those are the little ones running around
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這些小東西跑來跑去
09:07
with their abdomens up in the air.
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腹部朝上。
09:10
But as soon as the threat is passed,
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一但威脅消失,
09:12
the entrance is open again,
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入口就又打開了,
09:15
and maybe there are situations
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也許在某些情況下,
09:17
in computer security
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電腦的安全性
09:18
where operating costs are low enough
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在營運成本夠低時,
09:20
that we could just block access temporarily
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我們只要暫時把存取擋住,
09:23
in response to an immediate threat,
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以回應立即性的威脅,
09:25
and then open it again,
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然後再把它打開就好,
09:27
instead of trying to build
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而不用試著建立
09:29
a permanent firewall or fortress.
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一個永久性的防火牆或要塞。
09:33
So another environmental challenge
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那麼另一種環境挑戰,
09:35
that all systems have to deal with
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所有系統都要面對的,
09:36
is resources, finding and collecting them.
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是資源,要找尋及收集資源。
09:42
And to do this, ants solve the problem
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要做這個,螞蟻解決了
09:44
of collective search,
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集體搜尋的問題,
09:45
and this is a problem that's of great interest
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而這在機器人科學
09:46
right now in robotics,
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是目前極感興趣的問題,
09:48
because we've understood that,
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因為我們已經瞭解,
09:50
rather than sending a single,
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與其送出一個單獨操作、
09:51
sophisticated, expensive robot out
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複雜又很貴的機器人出去
09:55
to explore another planet
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探險另一個星球,
09:56
or to search a burning building,
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或去搜索一棟燃燒的建築物,
09:59
that instead, it may be more effective
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還不如這樣可能更有效,
10:01
to get a group of cheaper robots
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就是找一組便宜的機器人
10:06
exchanging only minimal information,
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只交換最少的資訊,
10:08
and that's the way that ants do it.
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而那正是螞蟻做的方式。
10:11
So the invasive Argentine ant
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所以入侵種阿根廷蟻
10:13
makes expandable search networks.
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建造可擴充的搜尋網路。
10:15
They're good at dealing with the main problem
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牠們對解決集體搜尋的
10:17
of collective search,
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主要問題很在行,
10:19
which is the trade-off between
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那是權衡了
10:21
searching very thoroughly
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要完全徹底的搜尋,
10:23
and covering a lot of ground.
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還是要涵蓋大片土地的結果。
10:25
And what they do is,
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10:25
when there are many ants in a small space,
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牠們所做的是,
如果在一個小空間裡有很多螞蟻,
10:28
then each one can search very thoroughly
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那麼每一隻都可以徹底搜尋,
10:30
because there will be another ant nearby
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因為附近一定會有另一隻螞蟻
10:32
searching over there,
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在另一邊搜尋,
10:33
but when there are a few ants
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但當在一塊很大的空間裡,
10:35
in a large space,
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只有少數的螞蟻的時候,
10:37
then they need to stretch out their paths
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那麼牠們需要延伸牠們的路徑
10:39
to cover more ground.
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以涵蓋更多的地面。
10:41
I think they use interactions to assess density,
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我想牠們使用互動以評估密度,
10:44
so when they're really crowded,
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所以當牠們真的很擠的時候,
10:45
they meet more often,
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牠們就更常碰到彼此,
10:46
and they search more thoroughly.
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牠們就更徹底搜尋。
10:49
Different ant species must use different algorithms,
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不同的螞蟻物種 必須使用不同的演算法,
10:52
because they've evolved to deal with
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因為牠們已進化以面對
10:55
different resources,
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不同的資源,
10:56
and it could be really useful to know about this,
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而知道這一點可能非常有用,
10:59
and so we recently asked ants
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所以我們最近要求螞蟻
11:01
to solve the collective search problem
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解決集體搜尋問題,
11:03
in the extreme environment
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在極端環境下,
11:04
of microgravity
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即微重力狀態,
11:06
in the International Space Station.
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在國際太空站裡。
11:08
When I first saw this picture, I thought,
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當我第一次看到這張照片,我在想,
11:09
Oh no, they've mounted the habitat vertically,
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不會吧,他們居然把棲地裝成垂直的,
11:12
but then I realized that, of course, it doesn't matter.
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但隨後我意識到,當然,那無所謂。
11:15
So the idea here is that the ants
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所以這個想法就是,螞蟻
11:18
are working so hard to hang on
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要非常努力地緊緊抓住
11:19
to the wall or the floor or whatever you call it
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牆壁或地板,隨便你怎麼叫,
11:23
that they're less likely to interact,
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所以牠們就不太可能互動,
11:26
and so the relationship between
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如此一來這兩者之間的關係,
11:27
how crowded they are and how often they meet
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就是有多擠及多常碰到
11:29
would be messed up.
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就會被搞亂。
11:31
We're still analyzing the data.
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我們仍在分析那些數據。
11:32
I don't have the results yet.
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我還沒拿到結果。
11:34
But it would be interesting to know
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但這應該滿有趣的,如果你知道
11:36
how other species solve this problem
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其他物種在地球上不同的環境裡,
11:38
in different environments on Earth,
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如何解決這個問題,
11:41
and so we're setting up a program
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所以我們辦了一個計劃,
11:42
to encourage kids around the world
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鼓勵全世界各地的孩子,
11:44
to try this experiment with different species.
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以不同的物種試做這個實驗。
11:47
It's very simple.
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這很簡單。
11:48
It can be done with cheap materials.
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用很便宜的材料就能做。
11:51
And that way, we could make a global map
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這樣一來,我們或許可以 做一張全球地圖,
11:53
of ant collective search algorithms.
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畫著螞蟻的集體搜尋演算法。
11:57
And I think it's pretty likely that the invasive species,
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而我想入侵物種很有可能,
11:59
the ones that come into our buildings,
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就是跑進我們房屋裡的那些,
12:01
are going to be really good at this,
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在這方面的表現會非常好,
12:03
because they're in your kitchen
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因為牠們在你的廚房裡,
12:05
because they're really good at finding food and water.
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因為牠們真的很會找食物及水。
12:09
So the most familiar resource for ants
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所以對螞蟻最熟悉的資源
12:12
is a picnic,
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就是野餐。
12:13
and this is a clustered resource.
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而且這還是叢集資源。
12:16
When there's one piece of fruit,
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有一片水果出現在這裡,
12:17
there's likely to be another piece of fruit nearby,
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有另一片在附近的可能性就很大。
12:19
and the ants that specialize on clustered resources
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而那些專做叢集資源的螞蟻
12:23
use interactions for recruitment.
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就會用互動招募螞蟻大軍。
12:24
So when one ant meets another,
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所以當某隻螞蟻碰到另一隻螞蟻,
12:26
or when it meets a chemical deposited
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或當這隻螞蟻碰到另一隻螞蟻
12:27
on the ground by another,
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留在地面的某種化學物品,
12:29
then it changes direction to follow
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那牠就會改變方向,
12:31
in the direction of the interaction,
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依照互動的指示,
12:32
and that's how you get the trail of ants
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而這就是你如何得到一條螞蟻線
12:34
sharing your picnic.
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來分享你的野餐。
12:36
Now this is a place where I think we might be able
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那這是我認為我們或許可以
12:38
to learn something from ants about cancer.
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從螞蟻身上學到關於癌症的地方。
12:41
I mean, first, it's obvious that we could do a lot
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我是說第一,很明顯我們能做很多事
12:43
to prevent cancer
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以避免癌症,
12:45
by not allowing people to spread around
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藉著不讓人們傳播
12:47
or sell the toxins that promote
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或販賣會在我們
12:49
the evolution of cancer in our bodies,
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體內致癌的毒素,
12:52
but I don't think the ants can help us much with this
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但我不認為螞蟻在這方面 能幫我們多少,
12:55
because ants never poison their own colonies.
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因為螞蟻從不毒化自己的蟻群。
12:58
But we might be able to learn something from ants
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但我們或許能從螞蟻學到
12:59
about treating cancer.
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與治療癌症有關的事。
13:01
There are many different kinds of cancer.
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癌症有許多不同的類型。
13:03
Each one originates in a particular part of the body,
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每一種都源自身體的特定部位,
13:06
and then some kinds of cancer will spread
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然後某些癌症會擴散
13:09
or metastasize to particular other tissues
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或轉移到某些特定的組織,
13:12
where they must be getting resources that they need.
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這些癌細胞一定是在那裡 得到它們所需的資源。
13:15
So if you think from the perspective
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所以如果你從
13:17
of early metastatic cancer cells
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癌細胞早期轉移的角度想,
13:19
as they're out searching around
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好像它們是去外面四處尋找
13:20
for the resources that they need,
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它們所需的資源,
13:23
if those resources are clustered,
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假如這些資源是叢集的,
13:25
they're likely to use interactions for recruitment,
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它們就很有可能使用互動 來招募其它細胞,
13:28
and if we can figure out how cancer cells are recruiting,
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如果我們能找出癌細胞 如何招兵買馬,
13:31
then maybe we could set traps
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那也許我們可以設下陷阱,
13:33
to catch them before they become established.
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在它們變得穩定前捕捉它們。
13:37
So ants are using interactions in different ways
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所以螞蟻在大不同的各種環境下,
13:40
in a huge variety of environments,
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以不同的方法互動,
13:43
and we could learn from this
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而我們可以從中學到
13:45
about other systems that operate
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其他系統如何運作,
13:47
without central control.
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不靠中央控制。
13:49
Using only simple interactions,
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僅僅使用簡單的互動,
13:51
ant colonies have been performing
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蟻群已經執行
13:53
amazing feats for more than 130 million years.
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驚人壯舉超過一億三千萬年。
13:56
We have a lot to learn from them.
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我們還有很多要向牠們學習。
13:58
Thank you.
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謝謝。
14:01
(Applause)
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