My road trip through the whitest towns in America | Rich Benjamin

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譯者: Regina Chu 審譯者: Marssi Draw
00:13
Imagine a place where your neighbors greet your children by name;
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想像一下有個地方, 你的鄰居叫得出你孩子的名字;
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a place with splendid vistas;
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景觀超好;
00:22
a place where you can drive just 20 minutes
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你只要開車 20 分鐘
00:26
and put your sailboat on the water.
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就能下水駕船。
00:28
It's a seductive place, isn't it?
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很誘人的地方,對吧?
00:32
I don't live there.
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我不住在那裡。
00:33
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
00:36
But I did journey on a 27,000-mile trip
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但是我的確踏上 近四萬四千公里的旅程,
00:42
for two years, to the fastest-growing and whitest counties in America.
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在兩年間,到美國幾個快速成長 且居民很白的幾個縣走走。
00:50
What is a Whitopia?
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什麼是白色烏托邦?
00:52
I define Whitopia in three ways:
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我以三點定義白色烏托邦:
00:55
First, a Whitopia has posted at least six percent population growth since 2000.
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第一,白色烏托邦自 2000 年起 至少有 6% 的人口成長。
01:03
Secondly, the majority of that growth comes from white migrants.
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第二,人口成長 主要是因為白種人移入。
01:08
And third, the Whitopia has an ineffable charm,
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第三,白色烏托邦 有著難以言喻的魅力,
01:12
a pleasant look and feel,
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舒適的景觀和感覺,
01:14
a je Ne sais quoi.
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不知其所以然也。
01:16
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
01:19
To learn how and why Whitopias are ticking,
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要瞭解白色烏托邦如何 又為何會發展起來,
01:23
I immersed myself for several months apiece in three of them:
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我花了幾個月 讓自己深入其中三個地方:
01:29
first, St. George, Utah;
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第一,猶他州聖喬治;
01:32
second, Coeur d'Alene, Idaho;
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第二,愛達荷州科達倫;
01:34
and third, Forsyth County, Georgia.
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及第三,喬治亞州福賽斯郡。
01:38
First stop, St. George -- a beautiful town of red rock landscapes.
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第一站,聖喬治, 是個有著紅岩景色的美麗小鎮,
01:44
In the 1850s, Brigham Young dispatched families to St. George
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1850 年代,摩門教的楊百翰 差派數個家庭到聖喬治種植棉花,
01:49
to grow cotton because of the hot, arid climate.
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因為那裡的炎熱乾燥氣候很適合。
01:53
And so they called it Utah's Dixie, and the name sticks to this day.
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因此他們稱這裡為猶他之南, 而且這個名字延用至今。
02:00
I approached my time in each Whitopia like an anthropologist.
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我以人類學者之姿 前進每一座白色烏托邦。
02:05
I made detailed spreadsheets of all the power brokers in the communities,
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我在試算表上列出社區裡 所有的權力掮客,
02:09
who I needed to meet, where I needed to be,
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什麼人一定要見, 需要出現在什麼地方,
02:13
and I threw myself with gusto in these communities.
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而且我興致勃勃的 去參與社區活動。
02:16
I went to zoning board meetings,
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我去都市計畫委員會,
02:18
I went to Democratic clubs and Republican clubs.
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我去民主黨及共和黨的黨會,
02:22
I went to poker nights.
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我還去跟人打撲克牌。
02:27
In St. George, I rented a home at the Entrada,
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我在聖喬治的 「怡家」社區租了一棟房子,
02:32
one of the town's premier gated communities.
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這是城裡數一數二 有警衛管理的豪宅區。
02:35
There were no Motel 6's or Howard Johnsons for me.
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我可不能住在廉價的 汽車旅館或連鎖飯店。
02:39
I lived in Whitopia as a resident, and not like a visitor.
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我要在白色烏托邦裡當居民, 而不是觀光客。
02:44
I rented myself this home by phone.
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我是打電話租屋的。 (譯注:不用顯示自己是黑人)
02:49
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
02:51
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
02:53
Golf is the perfect seductive symbol of Whitopia.
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高爾夫是白色烏托邦的 完美誘惑代表。
02:59
When I went on my journey,
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我開始這趟旅程時,
03:01
I had barely ever held a golf club.
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連高爾夫球桿都沒拿過。
03:04
By the time I left, I was golfing at least three times a week.
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但在我結束時, 我每星期至少要打三次。
03:09
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
03:12
Golf helps people bond.
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打高爾夫促進人的情誼。
03:15
Some of the best interviews I ever scored during my trip were on the golf courses.
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這趟旅程中我最好的訪談 都是在高爾夫球場上聊來的。
03:21
One venture capitalist, for example, invited me to golf in his private club
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舉個例子,有位創投業者 邀我去他私人的高爾夫俱樂部,
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that had no minority members.
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那裡沒有少數族裔會員。
03:30
I also went fishing.
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我還去釣魚。
03:32
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
03:34
Because I had never fished, this fellow had to teach me
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因為我從來沒釣過魚, 這傢伙還得教我
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how to cast my line and what bait to use.
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如何揮竿、如何選餌。
03:42
I also played poker every weekend.
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我每個週末還玩撲克。
03:45
It was Texas Hold 'em with a $10 buy-in.
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玩德州撲克,參賽金十美元。
03:50
My poker mates may have been bluffing about the hands that they drew,
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雖然我的撲克牌友每次 都虛張聲勢說自己有一手好牌,
03:54
but they weren't bluffing about their social beliefs.
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但他們對於自己的 社會信念可一點都不假。
03:57
Some of the most raw, salty conversations I ever had
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旅程中有好些尖酸辛辣的對話
04:01
during my journey were at the poker table.
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都在撲克牌桌上產生。
04:04
I'm a gung ho entertainer.
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我是個很賣力的主人。
04:08
I love to cook, I hosted many dinner parties, and in return,
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我很愛烹飪,開了很多晚餐趴,
04:12
people invited me to their dinner parties,
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他們也回邀我去他們的晚餐趴,
04:15
and to their barbecues, and to their pool parties,
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還有他們的烤肉趴、泳池趴、
04:17
and to their birthday parties.
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生日趴。
04:21
But it wasn't all fun.
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但不是每件事都很好玩。
04:23
Immigration turned out to be a big issue in this Whitopia.
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事實證明移民在這座 白色烏托邦是個大議題。
04:28
The St. George's Citizens Council on Illegal Immigration
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聖喬治的「整治非法移民市民委員會」
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held regular and active protests against immigration,
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定期舉行抗議活動, 積極反對外來移民,
04:35
and so what I gleaned from this Whitopia is what a hot debate this would become.
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所以我在這座 白色烏托邦搜集到的情報,
就是這可能會成為 非常激烈的辯論。
04:41
It was a real-time preview, and so it has become.
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這是當時的即時預覽, 而現在的確也變成如此。
04:47
Next stop: Almost Heaven, a cabin I rented for myself
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下一站:科達倫的「人間天堂」 是我給我自己租的小木屋,
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in Coeur d'Alene, in the beautiful North Idaho panhandle.
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位於美麗的愛達荷州, 狹長的那一塊。
04:57
I rented this place for myself, also by phone.
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我自己租下這個地方, 也是用電話。
05:00
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
05:02
The book "A Thousand Places To See Before You Die" lists Coeur d'Alene --
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《1000 個死前必遊勝地》 柯達倫名列其一。
05:07
it's a gorgeous paradise for huntsmen, boatmen and fishermen.
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那真的是獵人、船友 及漁友的美麗天堂。
05:13
My growing golf skills came in handy in Coeur d'Alene.
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我愈來愈好的高爾夫技巧 在柯達倫派上用場。
05:16
I golfed with retired LAPD cops.
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我與退休的洛杉磯警察 一起打高爾夫。
05:19
In 1993, around 11,000 families and cops
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1993 年,約有 一萬一千個家庭及警察,
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fled Los Angeles after the L.A. racial unrest,
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在洛杉磯種族暴動後,
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for North Idaho, and they've built an expatriated community.
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從洛杉磯逃到北愛達荷, 在此建造了一個流放社區。
05:36
Given the conservatism of these cops,
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鑑於這些警察的保守主義,
05:39
there's no surprise that North Idaho has a strong gun culture.
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北愛達荷有很強烈的 擁槍文化一點也不意外。
05:45
In fact, it is said, North Idaho has more gun dealers than gas stations.
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事實上,大家都說, 北愛達荷的槍枝業者比加油站還多。
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So what's a resident to do to fit in?
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所以,居民要做什麼才能融入呢?
05:56
I hit the gun club.
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我跑去槍枝俱樂部。
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When I rented a gun, the gentleman behind the counter
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我去租槍的時候,
櫃檯的先生非常和藹可親,
06:02
was perfectly pleasant and kind,
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06:04
until I showed him my New York City driver's license.
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直到我給他紐約市的駕照。
06:08
That's when he got nervous.
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那時他就開始緊張了。
06:11
I'm not as bad a shot as I thought I might have been.
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我以為我是個糟糕的射手, 但是其實還好。
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What I learned from North Idaho is the peculiar brand of paranoia
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我在北愛達荷學到的是, 有這麼多警察及槍枝在四周,
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that can permeate a community when so many cops and guns are around.
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的確會有某種 奇特的妄想深植社區之中。
06:30
In North Idaho, in my red pickup truck,
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在北愛達荷時, 我在我的小紅載卡多內
06:34
I kept a notepad.
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放著一本記事簿。
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And in that notepad I counted more Confederate flags than black people.
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那本記事簿上我算到的 南軍聯盟國旗比黑人還多。
06:41
In North Idaho, I found Confederate flags
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在北愛達荷, 我發現南軍聯盟國旗
06:44
on key chains, on cellphone paraphernalia,
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不但做成鑰匙圈、手機吊飾,
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and on cars.
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還掛在車上。
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About a seven-minute drive from my hidden lake cabin
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離我海登湖畔小屋開車 七分鐘就會到的地方,
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was the compound of Aryan Nations,
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是「亞利安國」的聚會營地,
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the white supremacist group.
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他們是白人至上主義團體。
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America's Promise Ministries, the religious arm of Aryan Nations,
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「美國的承諾事工」 為亞利安國的宗教部門,
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happened to have a three-day retreat during my visit.
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剛好在我暫住的時候 舉行三天的退修會。
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So I decided to crash it.
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所以我決定當個不速之客。
07:14
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
07:17
I'm the only non-Aryan journalist I'm aware of ever to have done so.
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我是我所知道唯一做過這種事的 非亞利安(白人)記者,
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
07:23
Among the many memorable episodes of that retreat...
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那場退修會上演了 許多難以忘懷的情節,
07:27
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
07:29
...is when Abe, an Aryan, sidled up next to me.
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其中之一是亞伯,也是名亞利安, 悄悄的走到我身邊。
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He slapped my knee, and he said, "Hey Rich, I just want you to know one thing.
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他拍拍我的膝蓋,他說: 「嘿,李其,我想讓你瞭解一件事。
07:38
We are not white supremacists. We are white separatists.
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我們不是白人至上主義者, 我們是白人分離主義者。
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We don't think we're better than you,
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我們不認為我們比你好。
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we just want to be away from you."
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我們只是想離你遠遠的。」
07:46
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
07:51
Indeed, most white people in Whitopia are neither white supremacists
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確實,在白色烏托邦的白人 並非白人至上主義者,
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or white separatists;
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也不是白人分離主義者;
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in fact, they're not there for explicitly racial reasons at all.
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事實上,他們根本就不是因為 種族原因而聚集在那裡。
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Rather, they emigrate there
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相反的,他們移居那裡,
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for friendliness, comfort, security, safety --
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是因為那裡親切、舒適、 有安全感而且也很安全。
08:10
reasons that they implicitly associate to whiteness in itself.
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他們很隱晦的將這些原因 與白人本身連結在一起。
08:17
Next stop was Georgia.
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下一站是喬治亞。
08:20
In Georgia, I stayed in an exurb north of Atlanta.
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在喬治亞, 我住在北亞特蘭大遠郊區。
08:25
In Utah, I found poker;
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在猶他,我找到撲克;
08:26
in Idaho, I found guns;
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在愛達荷,我找到槍枝;
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in Georgia, I found God.
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在喬治亞,我找到神。
08:30
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
08:31
The way that I immersed myself in this Whitopia
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我將自己融入 這座白色烏托邦的方法,
08:34
was to become active at First Redeemer Church,
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是積極參與「第一救贖主教會」,
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a megachurch that's so huge that it has golf carts
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這是一座超級巨型教會, 大到甚至有高爾夫球車
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to escort the congregants around its many parking lots on campus.
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載著會眾穿梭在園區內 眾多的停車場間。
08:47
I was active in the youth ministry.
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我很積極參與青年事工。
08:50
And for me, personally, I was more comfortable in this Whitopia
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對我個人而言, 我在這座白色烏托邦感覺更自在,
08:55
than say, in a Colorado, or an Idaho, or even a suburban Boston.
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比在科羅拉多或愛達荷, 或波士頓近郊都還自在。
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That is because [there], in Georgia,
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這是因為在喬治亞,
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white people and black people are more historically familiar to one another.
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白人和黑人在歷史上更熟悉彼此。
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I was less exotic in this Whitopia.
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我在這座白色烏托邦裡 沒有那麼奇特。
09:11
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
09:14
But what does it all mean?
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但是這一切意味著什麼?
09:17
Whitopian dreaming, Whitopia migration, is a push-pull phenomenon,
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白色烏托邦夢想, 白色烏托邦遷徙,
是一種「推拉」現象,
09:22
full of alarming pushes and alluring pulls,
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充滿了可怕的推力 及誘人的拉力。
09:26
and Whitopia operates at the level of conscious and unconscious bias.
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白色烏托邦以有意識 及無意識的偏見運作著。
09:33
It's possible for people to be in Whitopia not for racist reasons,
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大家會移居白色烏托邦 很可能不是因為種族主義,
09:39
though it has racist outcomes.
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卻產生種族主義的結果。
09:43
Many Whitopians feel pushed by illegals,
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許多白色烏托邦的人 覺得被非法移民、
09:47
social welfare abuse, minorities, density, crowded schools.
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社會福利濫用、少數族裔、 稠密人口,及擁擠的學校推出去。
09:53
Many Whitopians feel pulled by merit,
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許多白色烏托邦的人覺得被好處、
09:58
freedom, the allure of privatism -- privatized places, privatized people,
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被自由拉進去,個人主義的誘惑── 私有化的地方、私有化的人民、
10:04
privatized things.
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私有化的東西。
10:07
And I learned in Whitopia how a country can have racism
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我在白色烏托邦也學到, 一個國家如何有種族主義,
10:13
without racists.
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卻沒有種族主義者。
10:15
Many of my smug urban liberal friends
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我有許多自以為是的 都會自由派朋友,
10:18
couldn't believe I would go on such a venture.
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都不敢相信 我會踏上這趟冒險之旅。
10:21
The reality is that many white Americans are affable and kind.
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現實的情況是許多 白種美國人都很和藹善良。
10:27
Interpersonal race relations -- how we treat each other as human beings --
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個人之間的種族關係── 我們以人類的身分如何對待他人──
10:32
are vastly better than in my parents' generation.
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都比我父母的年代好太多。
10:37
Can you imagine me going to Whitopia 40 years ago?
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你能想像如果 40 年前 我去白色烏托邦會是什麼樣子嗎?
10:41
What a journey that would have been.
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會是多棒的旅程啊!
10:43
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
10:45
And yet, some things haven't changed.
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然而,某些事情仍然不變。
10:47
America is as residentially and educationally segregated today
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今天,美國在 居住及教育方面的隔離
10:54
as it was in 1970.
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與 1970 年仍然相同。
10:59
As Americans, we often find ways to cook for each other,
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身為美國人, 我們常找方法給彼此做點菜,
11:04
to dance with each other,
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和彼此跳跳舞,
11:05
to host with each other,
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招待彼此。
11:07
but why can't that translate into how we treat each other as communities?
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但是為什麼我們不能 以族群的身分這樣對待彼此?
11:13
It's a devastating irony,
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這是極大的諷刺,
11:15
how we have gone forward as individuals,
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我們怎麼會在個人方面進步,
11:18
and backwards as communities.
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卻在族群方面退步?
11:23
One of the Whitopian outlooks that really hit me
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白色烏托邦存在一個看法 對我產生極大震撼,
11:28
was a proverbial saying:
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就是一句俗話說:
11:30
"One black man is a delightful dinner guest;
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「一名黑人是令人愉快的晚宴客人,
11:33
50 black men is a ghetto."
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50 名黑人就變成貧民窟。」
11:40
One of the big contexts animating my Whitopian journey was the year 2042.
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驅動我踏上白色烏托邦之旅的 一項大環境背景是 2042 年。
11:48
By 2042, white people will no longer be the American majority.
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到了 2042 年, 白人不再佔美國的多數。
11:55
As such, will there be more Whitopias?
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如此一來,會有更多的 白色烏托邦出現嗎?
12:00
In looking at this,
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從這點來看,
12:02
the danger of Whitopia is that the more segregation we have,
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白色烏托邦的危險是 我們愈隔離,
12:09
the less we can look at and confront conscious and unconscious bias.
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我們就愈不能正視及面對 有意識及無意識的偏見。
12:18
I ventured on my two-year, 27,000 mile journey
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我大膽花了兩年 踏上四萬四千公里的旅程,
12:22
to learn where, why, and how white people are fleeing,
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去學習白人逃到哪裡, 為什麼要逃,又怎麼逃,
12:27
but I didn't expect to have so much fun on my journey.
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但我沒想到這趟旅程會這麼好玩。
12:30
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
12:31
I didn't expect to learn so much about myself.
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我沒想到我會更瞭解自己。
12:35
I don't expect I'll be living in a Whitopia --
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我沒想到我會住在白色烏托邦──
12:38
or a Blacktopia, for that matter.
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或應該說,黑色烏托邦。
12:41
I do plan to continue golfing every chance I get.
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我的確想過一有機會 就要繼續打高爾夫。
12:45
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
12:46
And I'll just have to leave the guns and megachurches back in Whitopia.
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但我得把槍枝及超級巨型教會 留在白色烏托邦。
12:52
Thank you.
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謝謝。
12:53
(Applause)
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