Francis de los Reyes: Sanitation is a basic human right

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譯者: Marssi Draw 審譯者: Regina Chu
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I am an engineering professor,
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我是工程學教授,
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and for the past 14 years
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過去 14 年來,
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I've been teaching crap.
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我都在教廢物。
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
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Not that I'm a bad teacher,
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不是因為我是個壞老師,
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but I've been studying and teaching
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而是因為一直以來我都在研究、教導
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about human waste
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人類的排泄物,
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and how waste is conveyed
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以及廢物如何透過廢水處理廠運送,
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through these wastewater treatment plants,
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00:30
and how we engineer and design
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還有我們如何規劃與設計這些處理廠,
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these treatment plants so that we can protect
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讓我們能保護地表水,像是河川。
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surface water like rivers.
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I've based my scientific career
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我的科學職業生涯奠基在
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on using leading-edge molecular techniques,
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運用頂尖的分子技術、
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DNA- and RNA-based methods
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應用去氧核糖核酸 (DNA) 與核糖核酸 (RNA) 的技術,
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to look at microbial populations in biological reactors,
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並透過生物反應器檢視細菌量,
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and again to optimize these systems.
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然後再次優化這些機制。
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And over the years,
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經過這些年,
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I have developed an unhealthy obsession with toilets,
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我對廁所有種病態的迷戀,
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and I've been known to sneak into toilets
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大家都知道我會偷溜進廁所,
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and take my camera phone
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還會帶著智慧型手機,
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all over the world.
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在世界各地都一樣。
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But along the way, I've learned
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但靠著這個方式,
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that it's not just the technical side,
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我發現那不只和科技有關,
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but there's also this thing called the culture of crap.
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也和所謂的廢物文化有關。
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So for example,
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舉例來說,
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how many of you are washers
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在座有多少人用洗的,
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and how many of you are wipers?
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有多少人用擦的?
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
01:22
If, well, I guess you know what I mean.
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你們應該都知道我在講什麼。
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If you're a washer, then you use water
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如果你是用洗的,
那你就會用水清洗肛門,這是術語。
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for anal cleansing. That's the technical term.
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01:31
And if you're a wiper,
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如果你是用擦的,
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then you use toilet paper
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那你就會用衛生紙,
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or, in some regions of the world
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或是世界上有些地方沒有衛生紙,
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where it's not available, newspaper
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就會用報紙、舊布或玉米穗軸。
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or rags or corncobs.
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01:45
And this is not just a piece of trivia,
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這不只是件微不足道的事,
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but it's really important to understand
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相反的,了解並解決 公共衛生問題是非常重要的事。
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and solve the sanitation problem.
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01:52
And it is a big problem:
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有個大問題是,
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There are 2.5 billion people in the world
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世界上有 25 億人
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who don't have access to adequate sanitation.
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沒有適當的衛生設備。
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For them, there's no modern toilet.
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他們沒有現代化的廁所。
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And there are 1.1 billion people
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還有 11 億人的廁所
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whose toilets are the streets
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是在大街、河堤,或公共空間,
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or river banks or open spaces,
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and again, the technical term for that is
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同樣的,術語稱為
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open defecation,
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露天排泄,
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but that is really simply
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但這真的單純只是
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shitting in the open.
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公開大便。
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And if you're living in fecal material
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如果你住在排泄物之中,
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and it's surrounding you, you're going to get sick.
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排泄物圍繞著你,你就會生病。
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It's going to get into your drinking water,
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那會進入你的飲用水和食物中,
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into your food, into your immediate surroundings.
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直接進入你的週遭環境裡。
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So the United Nations estimates
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聯合國估計
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that every year, there are 1.5 million child deaths
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每年有 150 萬名孩童死亡
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because of inadequate sanitation.
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是因為缺乏適當的公共衛生。
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That's one preventable death every 20 seconds,
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這是可避免的, 每 20 秒就能救一個人,
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171 every hour,
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每小時就能救 171 人,
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4,100 every day.
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每天就能救 4,100 人。
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And so, to avoid open defecation,
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因此,為了避免露天排泄,
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municipalities and cities
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市政當局會做公共建設,
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build infrastructure, for example, like pit latrines,
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像在市區周圍和鄉村裡蓋茅坑。
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in peri-urban and rural areas.
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For example, in KwaZulu-Natal province in South Africa,
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例如,南非的誇祖魯-納塔爾省
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they've built tens of thousands of these pit latrines.
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已經蓋了幾萬個這種茅坑。
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But there's a problem when you scale up
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但還有個問題,
當你增加到幾萬個茅坑,
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to tens of thousands, and the problem is,
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問題是那些坑滿了怎麼辦?
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what happens when the pits are full?
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This is what happens.
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就會變這樣,
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People defecate around the toilet.
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大家在廁所旁邊排泄。
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In schools, children defecate on the floors
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孩童在學校的地板上排泄,
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and then leave a trail outside the building
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接著在建築外留下一連串,
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and start defecating around the building,
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然後開始繞著建築排泄,
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and these pits have to be cleaned
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這些茅坑必須清理
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and manually emptied.
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和用人力清空。
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And who does the emptying?
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但誰去清空?
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You've got these workers
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有一些工人會
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who have to sometimes go down into the pits
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不時進到茅坑裡
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and manually remove the contents.
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動手清除內容物。
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It's a dirty and dangerous business.
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這是件又髒又危險的工作。
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As you can see, there's no protective equipment,
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如你所見,他們沒有防護設備,
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no protective clothing.
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也沒有防護服裝。
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There's one worker down there.
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有個工人在那下面。
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I hope you can see him.
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希望你看得見他。
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He's got a face mask on, but no shirt.
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他戴著面具,但沒穿衣服。
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And in some countries, like India,
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在某些國家,像是印度,
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the lower castes are condemned
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種姓階級較低的人被迫要清茅坑,
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to empty the pits,
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and they're further condemned by society.
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他們在社會上也被迫害。
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So you ask yourself, how can we solve this
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你可以自問, 我們能怎麼解決這個問題,
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and why don't we just build Western-style flush toilets
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以及我們為什麼不能 就蓋個西式的沖水馬桶
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for these two and a half billion?
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給這 25 億人用?
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And the answer is, it's just not possible.
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答案是,不可能。
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In some of these areas, there's not enough water,
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某些地區沒有足夠的水,
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there's no energy,
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沒有足夠的能源,
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it's going to cost tens of trillions of dollars
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預計要花上兆美元
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to lay out the sewer lines
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來設計管線、
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and to build the facilities
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建造廁所、
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and to operate and maintain these systems,
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管理和維護那些系統,
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and if you don't build it right,
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而且如果你沒蓋好,
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you're going to have flush toilets
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沖水馬桶就會直接連上河流,
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that basically go straight into the river,
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just like what's happening in many cities
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就像許多發展中國家的城市一樣。
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in the developing world.
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And is this really the solution?
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但這真的是解決方式嗎?
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Because essentially, what you're doing is
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因為基本上,你就是用乾淨的水,
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you're using clean water
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and you're using it to flush your toilet,
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你用清水來沖馬桶,
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convey it to a wastewater treatment plant
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沖到廢水處理廠,
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which then discharges to a river,
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接著就會排到河裡,
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and that river, again, is a drinking water source.
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而河流同樣是飲用水來源。
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So we've got to rethink sanitation,
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因此,我們得重新思考公共衛生,
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and we've got to reinvent the sanitation infrastructure,
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並重新發明那些公共衛生設施,
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and I'm going to argue that to do this,
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而我會證明要這麼做,
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you have to employ systems thinking.
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就得運用系統思維。
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We have to look at the whole sanitation chain.
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我們必須檢視整個公共衛生鏈。
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We start with a human interface,
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我們從人體使用者介面開始,
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and then we have to think about how feces
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接著要思考排泄物要如何
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are collected and stored,
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收集、儲存、
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transported, treated and reused —
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運送、處理和再利用,
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and not just disposal but reuse.
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不只是丟棄,而是要再利用。
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So let's start with the human user interface.
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因此我們先從人體使用者介面開始。
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I say, it doesn't matter if you're a washer or a wiper,
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我認為,不論你是用洗的還是用擦的,
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a sitter or a squatter,
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用坐的還是用蹲的,
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the human user interface should be clean
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人體使用者介面都必須乾淨,
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and easy to use, because after all,
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而且要容易操作,因為畢竟
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taking a dump should be pleasurable.
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上大號應該要是讓人身心愉快的事。
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
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And when we open the possibilities
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當我們開始
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to understanding this sanitation chain,
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了解這個公共衛生鏈,
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then the back-end technology,
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接下來就是後端技術,
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the collection to the reuse, should not really matter,
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收集來再利用,應該沒那麼麻煩,
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and then we can apply
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然後我們可以運用
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locally adoptable and context-sensitive solutions.
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當地可操作與合情合理的解決方式。
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So we can open ourselves to possibilities like,
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因此,我們就更有可能做,
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for example, this urine-diverting toilet,
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例如,這個尿糞分離廁所,
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and there's two holes in this toilet.
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裡頭有兩個洞。
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There's the front and the back,
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一前一後,
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and the front collects the urine,
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前面的收集尿液,
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and the back collects the fecal material.
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後面的收集糞便。
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And so what you're doing is you're separating the urine,
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這個作法就是分離出尿液,
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which has 80 percent of the nitrogen
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尿液有 80% 的氮
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and 50 percent of the phosphorus,
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和 50% 的磷,
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and then that can then be treated
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經過處理和沉澱
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and precipitated to form things like struvite,
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就能形成鳥糞石之類的東西,
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which is a high-value fertilizer,
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那是營養價值很高的肥料;
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and then the fecal material can then be disinfected
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然後糞便經過消毒,
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and again converted to high-value end products.
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同樣會轉變成高價值的終產物。
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Or, for example, in some of our research,
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例如,我們的某些研究中,
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you can reuse the water by treating it
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水經過處理後就能重覆利用,
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in on-site sanitation systems
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只要運用在地的公衛系統,
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like planter boxes or constructed wetlands.
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像是花盆或人工濕地。
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So we can open up all these possibilities
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因此我們可以讓一切都成真,
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if we take away the old paradigm of flush toilets
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只要我們拋棄舊式的沖水馬桶
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and treatment plants.
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和污水處理廠。
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So you might be asking, who's going to pay?
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你也許會問,誰來買單?
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Well, I'm going to argue that governments
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我認為政府
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should fund sanitation infrastructure.
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應該要提供公共衛生設施的資金。
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NGOs and donor organizations,
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非營利團體和贊助單位
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they can do their best, but it's not going to be enough.
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可以盡一己之力,但永遠都不夠。
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Governments should fund sanitation
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政府花在公共衛生上的資金應該要
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the same way they fund roads
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等同於道路、
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and schools and hospitals
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學校、醫院,
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and other infrastructure like bridges,
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和其他設施,像是橋樑,
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because we know, and the WHO has done this study,
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因為我們知道, 世界衛生組織的研究指出,
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that for every dollar that we invest
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我們每投資一美元
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in sanitation infrastructure,
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在公共衛生設施上,
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we get something like three to 34 dollars back.
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就能得到 3 到 34 美元的回饋。
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Let's go back to the problem of pit emptying.
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我們回來談清空茅坑的問題。
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So at North Carolina State University,
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我們在北卡羅來納州立大學
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we challenged our students to come up with a simple solution,
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鼓勵學生想出簡單的方法,
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and this is what they came up with:
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他們想出了
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a simple, modified screw auger
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簡易的改造螺旋鑽,
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that can move the waste up
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能夠將排泄物
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from the pit and into a collecting drum,
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從茅坑移入回收桶,
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and now the pit worker
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這樣清潔工就不需要再進入茅坑了。
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doesn't have to go down into the pit.
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We tested it in South Africa, and it works.
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我們在南非的測試成功了。
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We need to make it more robust,
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我們需要讓它更堅固耐用,
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and we're going to do more testing
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而且我們會做更多測試,
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in Malawi and South Africa this coming year.
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預計明年在馬拉威和南非做。
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And our idea is to make this
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我們的想法是讓它變成
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a professionalized pit-emptying service
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專業的茅坑清理服務,
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so that we can create a small business out of it,
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如此一來,就能以此建立小型企業,
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create profits and jobs,
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創造營收和工作機會。
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and the hope is that,
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我們期待,
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as we are rethinking sanitation,
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在重新思考公共衛生的同時,
07:49
we are extending the life of these pits
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也能延長這些茅坑的壽命,
07:53
so that we don't have to resort
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這樣我們就不需要依靠
07:55
to quick solutions
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能應急卻沒什意義的解決方式。
07:56
that don't really make sense.
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07:58
I believe that access to adequate sanitation
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我相信能使用適當的公共衛生設施
08:02
is a basic human right.
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是基本人權。
08:04
We need to stop the practice
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我們應該阻止勞役
08:06
of lower castes and lower-status people
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種姓階級和社經地位較低的人,
08:08
going down and being condemned to empty pits.
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讓他們免於被迫進入茅坑清理。
08:12
It is our moral, it is our social
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這是我們在道德上、我們在社會上,
08:14
and our environmental obligation.
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以及我們在環境上應盡的義務。
08:16
Thank you.
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謝謝!
08:18
(Applause)
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