The freakonomics of McDonalds vs. drugs | Steven Levitt

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譯者: Jenny Chen 審譯者: Lin Su-Wei(林書暐)
00:25
You'll be happy to know that I'll be talking not about my own tragedy,
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各位應該會很高興,我今天不講我自己的悲劇
00:29
but other people's tragedy.
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只會講別人的悲劇
00:31
It's a lot easier to be lighthearted about other people's tragedy
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講別人的慘事比講你自己的輕鬆多了
00:34
than your own,
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00:35
and I want to keep it in the spirit of the conference.
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況且我希望今天的演講氣氛輕鬆愉快
好,如果你相信媒體所言
00:40
So, if you believe the media accounts,
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00:42
being a drug dealer in the height of the crack cocaine epidemic
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認為在快克古柯鹼盛行的高峰期,當個毒販
00:46
was a very glamorous life, in the words of Virginia Postrel.
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是相當光鮮亮麗的工作--套用作家帕斯楚的話
00:50
There was money, there was drugs, guns, women,
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有錢花、有毒吸、坐擁槍枝和女人
00:54
you know, you name it -- jewelry, bling-bling -- it had it all.
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只要你想得到:珠寶、金光閃閃的首飾,應有盡有
00:59
What I'm going to tell you today is that, in fact, based on 10 years of research,
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但我今天要告訴各位,事實上,根據十年的研究
01:04
a unique opportunity to go inside a gang --
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在一次深入幫派的難得機會中
01:07
to see the actual books, the financial records of the gang --
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親眼見到幫派的帳冊,看到他們的財務紀錄後
01:10
that the answer turns out not to be
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我們發現,幫派生活一點都不光鮮亮麗
01:12
that being in the gang was a glamorous life.
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01:16
But I think, more realistically, that being in a gang --
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更實際一點,我認為當個幫派弟兄
01:18
selling drugs for a gang -- is perhaps the worst job in all of America.
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為幫派販毒,可能是全美國最糟糕的工作
01:22
And that's what I'd like to convince you of today.
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這就是我今天想要說服各位的
01:25
So there are three things I want to do.
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因此我要做三件事情
01:27
First, I want to explain how and why crack cocaine
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首先,我要解釋快克古柯鹼如何、以及為何
01:31
had such a profound influence on inner-city gangs.
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對貧民區幫派造成這麼深遠的影響
01:36
Secondly, I want to tell you
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第二,我想告訴各位,像我這種人
01:38
how somebody like me came to be able to see
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如何能夠一探幫派的內部運作
01:43
the inner workings of a gang -- an interesting story, I think.
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01:46
And then third, I want to tell you, in a very superficial way,
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我覺得這是個很有趣的故事
第三,我想以非常淺顯易懂的方法
01:49
about some of the things we found
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告訴各位我們從
01:51
when we actually got to look at the financial records,
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幫派的財務紀錄,從他們的帳冊中發現了什麼
01:54
the books, of the gang.
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01:55
So before I do that, just one warning,
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但在開始之前,我要先警告各位
01:59
which is that this presentation has been rated 'R'
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本演講經美國電影協會列為限制級
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by the Motion Picture Association of America.
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02:05
It contains adult themes, adult language.
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內容涉及成人議題及成人語言
02:08
Given who is up on the stage, you'll be delighted to know
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不過看到眼前這位仁兄,各位應該會很高興得知
02:11
that, in fact, there'll be no nudity --
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本演講不會出現裸露畫面
除了
02:14
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
02:16
Unexpected wardrobe malfunctions aside.
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意外穿幫事件以外
02:19
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
02:23
So let me start by talking about crack cocaine,
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首先來談談快克古柯鹼,以及它如何改變了幫派生態
02:27
and how it transformed the gang.
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02:29
To do that, you have to actually go back to a time before crack cocaine,
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但我們得先回顧快克古柯鹼盛行以前的情形
02:32
in the early '80s, and look at it from the perspective of a gang leader.
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回到80年代初期,以幫派老大的角度來思考
02:36
Being a gang leader in the inner city wasn't such a bad deal in the mid-'80s --
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在80年代中期在貧民區當個幫派老大沒什麼不好
02:42
the early '80s, let me say.
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02:43
Now, you had a lot of power, and you got to beat people up --
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有些人甚至會說在80年代初期也不錯
你握有權勢,可以揍人
02:46
you got a lot of prestige, a lot of respect.
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名聲響亮,又受人敬重
02:49
But the thing is, there was no money in it.
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但你沒什麼賺頭,明白嗎?
02:51
The gang had no way to make money.
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以前的幫派沒有賺錢的管道
02:53
You couldn't charge dues to the people in the gang,
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他們沒法跟幫派成員收會費
02:56
because the people in the gang didn't have any money.
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因為大家都是窮光蛋
02:58
You couldn't really make any money selling marijuana --
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賣大麻也賺不了多少錢
03:01
marijuana's too cheap, it turns out.
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因為大麻太便宜了
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You can't get rich selling marijuana.
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沒辦法靠賣大麻致富
03:05
You couldn't sell cocaine;
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你也不能賣古柯鹼
03:07
cocaine's a great product -- powdered cocaine --
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你知道,古柯鹼是好貨,我說的是粉狀古柯鹼
03:09
but you've got to know rich white people.
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但是你得認識有錢的白人
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And most of the inner-city gang members didn't know any rich white people,
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而貧民區幫派弟兄怎麼會認識這種人
03:15
so couldn't sell to that market.
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所以他們沒有市場通路
03:16
You couldn't really do petty crime, either.
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你也不能偷拐搶騙
03:18
Turns out, petty crime's a terrible way to make a living.
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靠小奸小惡謀生太辛苦了
因此
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As a result, as a gang leader, you had, you know, power --
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身為一個幫派老大,你有權有勢
03:24
it's a pretty good life -- but the thing was, in the end,
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生活過得還不錯
問題是,到頭來你還是得跟媽媽住
03:27
you were living at home with your mother.
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03:29
And so it wasn't really a career.
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所以這不太能算是一個事業
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There were limits to how powerful and important you could be
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怎麼說呢
你的權勢和地位似乎有個底限
03:34
if you had to live at home with your mother.
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畢竟你還住在家裡靠媽媽養
03:36
Then along comes crack cocaine.
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後來,快克古柯鹼出現了
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And in the words of Malcolm Gladwell,
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套用葛拉威爾剛剛所說的,快克古柯鹼
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crack cocaine was the extra-chunky version of tomato sauce
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對貧民區居民而言,就是特大顆粒的蕃茄醬
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for the inner city.
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03:47
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
03:49
Because crack cocaine was an unbelievable innovation.
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快克古柯鹼是個不可思議的創新
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I don't have time to talk about it today, but if you think about it,
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我沒有時間就此深談
但想想,過去二十五年來
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I would say that in the last 25 years,
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of every invention or innovation that's occurred in this country,
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美國出現的所有發明或創新
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the biggest one in terms of impact
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對貧民區居民福祉影響最深遠的
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on the well-being of people who live in the inner city,
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was crack cocaine.
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就是快克古柯鹼
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And for the worse -- not for the better, but for the worse.
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但是我指的是負面影響,沒有提升,反而降低了福祉
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It had a huge impact on life.
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04:10
So what was it about crack cocaine?
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它對生活影響甚鉅
快克古柯鹼究竟有什麼魅力?
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It was a brilliant way of getting the brain high.
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它能讓大腦興奮
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Because you could smoke crack cocaine -- you can't smoke powdered cocaine --
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因為快克古柯檢可以用口吸入,粉狀古柯鹼沒辦法
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and smoking is a much more efficient mechanism of delivering a high
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藉由口腔吸食,更能享受快感
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than snorting it.
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比用鼻子吸食粉狀古柯鹼還有效
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And it turned out there was this audience that didn't know it wanted crack cocaine,
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所以一群從未吸食過快克古柯鹼的人
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but when it came, it really did.
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在吸過之後紛紛上癮
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And it was a perfect drug;
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you could buy the cocaine that went into it for a dollar,
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它是非常棒的毒品,你可以
用一美元買進,以五美元售出
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sell it for five dollars.
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Highly addictive -- the high was very short.
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具有高度成癮性--快感非常短暫
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So for fifteen minutes, you get this great high,
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你享受了十五分鐘的快感
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and then when you come down,
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all you want to do is get high again.
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藥效退去後,又渴求更多快感
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It created a wonderful market.
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這造就了非常完美的市場需求
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And for the people who were there running the gang,
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對於掌管幫派的人而言
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it was a great way, seemingly, to make a lot of money.
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這似乎是個生財致富的好方法
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At least for the people on the top.
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至少對位居上位的幫派大老是如此
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So this is where we enter the picture.
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此時我們研究人員出場了
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Not really me -- I'm really a bit player in all this.
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其實不是我本人,我只是幕後黑手
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My co-author, Sudhir Venkatesh, is the main character.
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這個研究的共同作者蘇西耶凡卡德希才是主角
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He was a math major in college who had a good heart,
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他大學主修數學,心地善良
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and decided he wanted to get a sociology PhD,
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想要攻讀社會學博士
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came to the University of Chicago.
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因此前來就讀芝加哥大學
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Now, the three months before he came to Chicago,
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他在抵達芝加哥的前三個月
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he had spent following the Grateful Dead.
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05:23
And in his own words, he "looked like a freak."
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都在追隨搖滾樂團「死之華」
他自稱外表「活像個怪胎」
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He's a South Asian -- very dark-skinned South Asian.
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南亞裔,皮膚黝黑
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Big man, and he had hair, in his words, "down to his ass."
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身材高壯,一頭長髮「及屁」
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Defied all kinds of boundaries:
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他顛覆了各種界限:他是黑人還是白人?男人還是女人
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Was he black or white? Was he man or woman?
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He was really a curious sight to be seen.
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真的是個非常醒目的人物
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So he showed up at the University of Chicago,
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於是他出現在芝加哥大學
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and the famous sociologist William Julius Wilson
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當時著名的社會學家威爾森
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was doing a book that involved surveying people all across Chicago.
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正在撰寫一本書,需要訪查芝加哥各地的居民
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He took one look at Sudhir, who was going to go do some surveys for him,
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他看著來幫忙研究的蘇西耶
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and decided he knew exactly the place to send him,
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知道應該派這個學生去哪兒
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which was to one of the toughest, most notorious housing projects
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他要派他去最恐怖、最惡名昭彰的國宅
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not just in Chicago, but in the entire United States.
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而且訪查範圍不僅限於芝加哥,還遍及全美
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So Sudhir, the suburban boy who had never really been in the inner city,
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來自郊區的蘇西耶,壓根兒沒去過貧民區
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dutifully took his clipboard and walked down to this housing project,
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仍盡責地帶著寫字夾板,走到國宅區
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gets to the first building.
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來到第一棟樓前
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The first building? Well, there's nobody there.
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情形如何?嗯,没半個人影
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But he hears some voices up in the stairwell,
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但他聽到樓梯間傳來聲響,於是爬上樓梯
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so he climbs up the stairwell, comes around the corner,
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走到轉角處
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and finds a group of young African-American men playing dice.
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看見一群年輕黑人在玩骰子
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This is about 1990, peak of the crack epidemic.
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這是1990年的事了,正逢快克古柯鹼高峰期
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This is a very dangerous job, being in a gang.
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為幫派做事非常危險,因此你不喜歡出其不意
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You don't like to be surprised.
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06:37
You don't like to be surprised by people who come around the corner.
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不喜歡有人出其不意出現在轉角處
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And the mantra was: shoot first; ask questions later.
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你的座右銘是:先開槍再說
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Now, Sudhir was lucky -- he was such a freak,
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但蘇西耶很走運
他像個書呆子
06:46
and that clipboard probably saved his life,
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手上的夾板可能救了他一條小命,因為幫派弟兄想
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because they figured no other rival gang member
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沒有仇家會拿個寫字板來槍殺我們
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would be coming up to shoot at them with a clipboard.
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(笑聲)
06:53
(Laughter)
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06:54
So his greeting was not particularly warm, but they did say,
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所以即便他沒有受到熱烈歡迎,對方倒說
06:57
well, OK -- let's hear your questions on your survey.
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嗯,好吧,把你的問題說來聽聽
07:01
So -- I kid you not --
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the first question on the survey that he was sent to ask was:
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我没跟各位說笑,他手上的問卷上第一道題目是:
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"How do you feel about being poor and Black in America?"
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「在美國當個窮黑人的感覺如何?」
(笑聲)
07:09
(Laughter)
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07:12
Makes you wonder about academics.
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07:13
(Laughter)
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真想不透學術界的人腦袋裡裝什麼,對不對?
(笑聲)
07:15
So the choice of answers were:
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題目的選項為: 1.非常好 2.好 3.不好 4.非常不好
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[A) Very Good B) Good C) Bad D) Very Bad]
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07:21
(Laughter)
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What Sudhir found out is, in fact, that the real answer was the following:
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蘇西耶發現,實際受訪者回答如下:
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[A) Very Good B) Good C) Bad D) Very Bad E) Fuck you]
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(5. 幹!) (笑聲)
07:29
(Laughter)
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07:31
The survey was not, in the end, going to be what got Sudhir off the hook.
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但這個問卷並沒有讓蘇西耶就此脫身
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He was held hostage overnight in the stairwell.
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他被押做人質,整晚關在樓梯間
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There was a lot of gunfire,
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there were a lot of philosophical discussions he had with the gang members.
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晚上槍聲四起
他和弟兄也聊了許多哲學議題
07:43
By morning, the gang leader arrived,
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次日早上,幫派老大來了
07:45
checked out Sudhir, decided he was no threat,
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打量了蘇西耶一番
認定他不具威脅性,決定讓他回家
07:47
and they let him go home.
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07:48
So Sudhir went home, took a shower, took a nap.
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所以蘇西耶回到家,沖了澡,睡一覺
07:51
And you and I, probably, faced with the situation, would think,
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換做你我,在這種情況下可能會決定
07:56
"I guess I'm going to write my dissertation on The Grateful Dead,
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嗯,我想我的博士論文還是寫「死之華」好了
07:59
I've been following them for the last three months."
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畢竟我已經研究他們三個月了
(笑聲)
08:02
(Laughter)
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但蘇西耶很快就又回去了--他再度來到國宅前
08:03
Sudhir, on the other hand,
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08:04
got right back, walked down to the housing project,
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08:06
went up to the second floor,
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爬上階梯,走到二樓說:「嘿,大夥兒」
08:08
and said: "Hey, guys, I had so much fun hanging out with you last night,
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「我昨晚跟大家玩得挺愉快的」
08:12
I wonder if I could do it again tonight."
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「今天晚上還可以跟你們玩嗎」
08:14
And that was the beginning of what turned out to be a beautiful relationship
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這是一段動人情誼的開端
08:17
that involved Sudhir living in the housing project on and off for 10 years,
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蘇西耶前後在國宅內住了十年
08:21
hanging out in crack houses, going to jail with the gang members,
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期間出入古柯鹼交易場所、和幫派弟兄蹲過苦牢
08:26
having the windows shot out of his car,
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車窗被槍射得滿天飛
08:28
having the police break into his apartment and steal his computer disks --
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警察闖進家門沒收電腦硬碟
08:32
you name it.
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什麼衰事都遇過
08:33
But ultimately, the story has a happy ending for Sudhir,
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但蘇西耶的故事有個美滿的結局
08:36
who became one of the most respected sociologists in the country.
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他成了美國最受敬重的社會學家之一
08:39
And especially for me,
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我更是享盡好處,只要坐在辦公室裡開著Excel的表格
08:41
as I sat in my office with my Excel spreadsheet open,
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08:44
waiting for Sudhir to come and deliver to me the latest load of data
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等著蘇西耶跟我報到,乖乖奉上最新的...
08:47
that he would get from the gang.
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幫派資料
08:49
(Laughter)
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08:53
It was one of the most unequal co-authoring relationships ever --
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那真是最不平等的共同作者關係之一
08:57
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
08:58
But I was glad to be the beneficiary of it.
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但我很慶幸我是獲益的一方
09:01
So what did we find?
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我們有什麼發現?從幫派身上知道什麼?讓我說件事
09:03
What did we find in the gang?
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09:05
Well, let me say one thing:
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09:07
We really got access to everybody in the gang.
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我們真的接觸了幫派裡的每個成員
09:11
We got an inside look at the gang, from the very bottom up to the very top.
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得以從上到下裡裡外外一探幫派究竟
09:15
They trusted Sudhir, in ways that really no academic has ever --
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他們信賴蘇西耶,學術界從沒有其他人辦到過
09:20
or really anybody, any outsider -- has ever earned the trust of these gangs,
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任何人、任何圈外人,從未有人贏得過這些幫派這等信賴
09:25
to the point where they actually opened up
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他們甚至對他開誠佈公,公開我認為最有趣的東西:
09:27
what was most interesting for me -- their books,
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09:29
the financial records they kept.
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幫派的帳冊,他們的財務紀錄
09:31
They made them available to us, and we not only could study them,
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也讓我們有機會過目
我們不但能夠研究帳冊,還能提問
09:34
but we could ask them questions about what was in them.
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因此,如果要我扼要說明
09:37
So if I have to kind of summarize very quickly in the short time I have
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09:40
what the bottom line of what I take away from the gang is,
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我從這個幫派身上學到的要點
09:44
it's that, if I had to draw a parallel between the gang
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就是,如果將幫派比擬為任何組織
09:47
and any other organization,
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09:49
it would be that the gang is just like McDonald's,
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那會是麥當勞
09:52
in a lot of different respects -- the restaurant McDonald's.
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在很多方面,幫派與麥當勞餐廳有相似之處
09:55
So first, in one way,
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首先,這也許不是最有趣的面向
09:57
which isn't maybe the most interesting way, but it's a good way to start --
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但很適合做開頭--兩者的組織方式類似
10:00
is in the way it's organized, the hierarchy of the gang,
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幫派的階層制度形似麥當勞
10:03
the way it looks.
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10:04
So here's what the org chart of the gang looks like.
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這是幫派的組織架構圖
10:07
I don't know if you know much about org charts,
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不知道是否有人熟悉組織架構圖
10:09
but if you were to assign a stripped-down and simplified McDonald's org chart,
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但如果你要畫一個簡單版的麥當勞企業組織架構圖
就長得像這樣
10:13
this is exactly what it would look like.
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10:15
It's amazing, but the top level of the gang,
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這相當驚人,但幫派的高層
10:17
they actually call themselves the "Board of Directors."
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還真的自稱為「董事會」
10:19
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
10:21
And Sudhir says
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蘇西耶說,這不是說這些人很懂
10:23
it's not like these guys had a very sophisticated view
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10:26
of what happened in American corporate life,
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美國企業運作模式云云
10:29
but they had seen movies like "Wall Street,"
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但他們看過《華爾街》這類的電影
10:32
and they had learned a little bit about what it was like
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對於現實社會的運作方式略知一二
10:35
to be in the real world.
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10:37
Now, below that board of directors,
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而在董事會下面,有地區副總裁
10:39
you've got essentially what are regional VPs --
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10:41
people who control, say, the South Side of Chicago, or the West Side of Chicago.
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比如說,負責芝加哥南部的、或管西部的副總裁
10:45
Sudhir got to know very well the guy who had the unfortunate assignment
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蘇西耶甚至熟識一個可憐的傢伙
10:49
of trying to take the Iowa franchise,
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被分到負責愛荷華的分支
10:51
which, it turned out, for this black gang,
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(笑聲)
結果發現,這支黑人幫派在愛荷華
10:53
was not one of the more brilliant financial endeavors they undertook.
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實在賺不到什麼錢
10:57
(Laughter)
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10:58
But the thing that really makes the gang seem like McDonald's is its franchisees.
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(笑聲)
但幫派近似麥當勞之處,正是各地的加盟處
11:03
The guys who are running the local gangs --
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這些人負責經營地區幫派
11:07
the four-square-block by four-square-block areas --
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也就是長寬各四個街區大小的地盤
11:10
they're just like the guys, in some sense, who are running the McDonald's.
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他們就像經營麥當勞的人
11:14
They are the entrepreneurs.
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都是企業家
11:15
They get the exclusive property rights to control the drug-selling.
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擁有專屬產權,可以控制毒品交易
11:19
They get the name of the gang behind them, for merchandising and marketing.
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打著幫派的名號,方便推銷和行銷
11:26
And they're the ones who basically make the profit or lose a profit,
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而幫派的盈虧,基本上都看他們的表現
11:29
depending on how good they are at running the business.
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端看事業經營狀況好壞
11:32
Now, the group I really want you to think about, though,
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但我希望各位思考的,是這些位於階層最底端的
11:35
are the ones at the bottom -- the foot soldiers.
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小囉嘍
11:37
These are the teenagers, typically,
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這些小囉嘍基本上都是青少年
11:39
who'd be standing out on the street corner, selling the drugs.
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站在街角賣毒品
11:42
Extremely dangerous work.
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這是極其危險的工作
11:45
And important to note is that almost all of the weight, all of the people
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要注意的是,幫派幾乎所有重心、所有人
11:50
in this organization are at the bottom -- just like McDonald's.
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都屬於組織最底層
對,就像麥當勞一樣
11:53
So in some sense, the foot soldiers are a lot like the people
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所以就某方面而言,幫派裡的小囉嘍就像
11:56
who are taking your order at McDonald's,
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在麥當勞負責幫你點餐的店員
11:58
and it's not just by chance that they're like them.
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當然,這並非偶然
12:00
In fact, in these neighborhoods, they'd be the same people.
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事實上,在這些社區裡,他們可能正是同一批人
12:03
So the same kids who are working in the gang were actually,
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在幫派裡當小囉嘍的孩子其實
12:06
at the very same time, typically working part-time
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同一時間也在兼差
12:09
at a place like McDonald's.
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也在麥當勞這種地方打工
12:11
Which already foreshadows the main result that I've talked about,
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這呼應了我先前所說的
12:14
about what a crappy job it was, being in the gang.
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混幫派實在是超爛的工作
12:17
Because obviously, if being in the gang were such a wonderful, lucrative job,
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因為,如果混幫派那麼美好、這麼好賺
12:21
why in the world would these guys moonlight at McDonald's?
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這些人幹嘛吃飽沒事去麥當勞兼差?
12:24
So what do the wages look like? You might be surprised.
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他們薪水多少?各位可能會嚇一跳
12:27
But based on being able to talk to them and to see their records,
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根據實際上的
訪談和帳冊紀錄
12:31
this is what it looks like in terms of the wages.
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他們領的薪水大概這樣
12:33
The hourly wage the foot soldiers were earning was $3.50 an hour.
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這些小囉嘍的時薪是三塊半美元
12:37
It was below the minimum wage. And this is well-documented.
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低於基本薪資,對吧?這都是有根據的
12:41
It's easy to see by the patterns of consumption they have.
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這些數據從他們的支出紀錄很容易得出
12:44
It really is not fiction -- it's fact.
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這不是瞎掰,是切確的事實
12:47
There was very little money in the gang, especially at the bottom.
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幫派賺不了多少錢,尤其最底層的小囉嘍
12:51
Now if you managed to rise up, say, and be that local leader,
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如果你有機會升等,成為地區負責人
12:54
the guy who's the equivalent of the McDonald's franchisee,
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同等於麥當勞分店長
12:57
you'd be making 100,000 dollars a year.
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你的年薪是十萬美金
12:59
And that, in some ways, was the best job you could hope to get
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就某方面而言,這就是你夢想中最好的工作了
13:02
if you were growing up in one of these neighborhoods as a young black male.
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身為年輕黑人男性,從小在貧民區長大,這大概是最好的工作了
13:06
If you managed to rise to the very top,
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若你得以升到最高層
13:08
200,000 or 400,000 dollars a year is what you'd hope to make.
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每年大概可以賺二十到四十萬美金
13:10
Truly, you would be a great success story.
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沒錯,你得以功成名就
13:13
And one of the sad parts of this is that, indeed,
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而快克古柯鹼造成的悲劇之一,除了其他數不盡的後果以外
13:16
among the many other ramifications of crack cocaine
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13:19
is that the most talented individuals in these communities --
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就是,貧民區裡最有才華的孩子
13:23
this is what they were striving for.
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只懷有這樣的夢想
13:25
They weren't trying to make it in legitimate ways,
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他們追尋成功的方法並不合法
13:27
because there were no legitimate channels out.
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因為根本就沒有合法的途徑
13:30
This was the best way out.
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這就是最好的出路了
13:31
And it actually was the right choice, probably,
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事實上,他們藉由這種方式出頭天,也許是正確的選擇
13:34
to try to make it out this way.
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看看這個
13:38
You look at this,
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13:39
the relationship to McDonald's breaks down here.
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我們頗析幫派與麥當勞的關連
13:42
The money looks about the same.
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各階層的薪水看起來差不多
13:44
Why is it such a bad job?
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為什麼這是個爛工作?
13:45
Well, the reason it's such a bad job is that there's somebody shooting at you
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嗯,這工作之所以爛,是因為有人
13:49
a lot of the time.
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常常會對你開槍
13:51
So, with shooting at you, what are the death rates?
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那,這種槍擊事件的死亡率是多少
13:54
We found, in our gang --
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我們所研究的這個幫派,當然這不能
13:55
and admittedly, this was not really a standard situation;
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適用於所有幫派的情況
13:58
this was a time of intense violence, of a lot of gang wars,
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當時暴力事件頻仍,有許多幫派械鬥
14:02
as this gang actually became quite successful.
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這支幫派後來勢力壯大,但也付出了代價
14:05
But there were costs.
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14:06
And so the death rate --
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因此死亡率--先不算被逮補的機率
14:08
not to mention the rate of being arrested, sent to prison, being wounded --
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也不算坐牢、受傷率,光是如此,樣本裡的死亡率
14:13
the death rate in our sample was seven percent per person per year.
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就高達每年每人百分之七
14:18
You're in the gang for four years,
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若在幫派混個四年,你可以預期死亡率有百分之二十五
14:20
you expect to die with about a 25 percent likelihood.
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14:24
That is about as high as you can get.
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這是很高的比例
14:26
So for comparison's purposes,
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做個比較,我們拿其他行業為例
14:28
let's think about some other walk of life you may expect might be extremely risky.
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其他高風險的行業
14:33
Let's say that you were a murderer
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像是殺人犯
14:35
and you were convicted of murder, and you're sent to death row.
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你被判謀殺罪,關進死刑犯監獄
14:38
It turns out, the death rates on death row from all causes, including execution:
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結果,死刑犯監獄的死亡率
列入所有死因,包括處決,是一年百分之二
14:42
two percent a year.
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14:44
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
14:45
So it's a lot safer being on death row
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所以當個死刑犯比在街頭販毒還要安全
14:48
than it is selling drugs out on the street.
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14:51
That gives you some pause, for those of you who believe
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這讓人不禁思考,讓各位重新思考
14:54
that a death penalty's going to have an enormous deterrent effect on crime.
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死刑對犯罪真的有極大的嚇阻作用嗎
讓各位了解快克古柯鹼盛行時,貧民區的情況多糟糕
15:00
To give you a sense of just how bad the inner city was during crack --
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15:03
and I'm not really focusing on the negatives,
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我沒有刻意只報憂不報喜
15:06
but really, there's another story to tell you there --
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但這邊另一個故事要跟各位分享
15:09
if you look at the death rates just of random, young black males
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看看死亡率
任何一個在美國貧民區成長的年輕黑人男性
15:13
growing up in the inner city in the United States,
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15:15
the death rates during crack were about one percent.
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在快克古柯鹼盛行時,死亡率大約是百分之一
15:18
That's extremely high.
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15:19
And this is violent death -- it's unbelievable, in some sense.
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這是非常高的比率
而且是死於暴力事件--這令人難以置信
15:22
To put it into perspective: if you compare this to the soldiers in Iraq,
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換個角度,如果和伊拉克的美軍死亡率相比較
15:27
for instance, right now fighting the war: 0.5 percent.
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舉例而言,目前在那打仗的美軍死亡率是:百分之零點五
15:31
So in some very literal way,
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所以說這些在美國長大的年輕黑人男性
15:34
the young black men who were growing up in this country
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是活在戰區裡,一點也不為過
15:37
were living in a war zone,
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15:39
very much in the sense that the soldiers over in Iraq are fighting in a war.
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他們就像在伊拉克打仗的士兵
15:45
So why in the world, you might ask,
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你可能會問,天底下有誰會願意
15:48
would anybody be willing to stand out on a street corner
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15:52
selling drugs for $3.50 an hour,
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在街角販毒,只為了賺那微薄的時薪三塊半?
15:55
with a 25 percent chance of dying over the next four years?
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而且在未來四年內,死亡率還高達百分之二十五?
15:58
Why would they do that?
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他們為什麼要這麼做?我認為有幾個答案
15:59
And I think there are a couple answers.
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16:02
I think the first one is that they got fooled by history.
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第一,他們被過去的歷史騙了
16:08
It used to be the gang was a rite of passage;
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以前加入幫派是成長過程的一部份
16:10
that the young people controlled the gang;
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年輕人掌握幫派,而你年紀稍長以後
16:12
that as you got older, you dropped out of the gang.
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就會退出幫派
16:16
So what happened was,
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16:17
the people who happened to be in the right place at the right time --
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但後來
某些人在對的時機,身處對的地方
16:20
the people who happened to be leading the gang in the mid-to-late-'80s --
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那些在八十年代中後期擔任幫派老大的人
16:26
became very, very wealthy.
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個個發了大財
16:28
And so the logical thing to think
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所以當時大家自然會推想:「那麼下一代..」
16:30
was that they are going to age out of the gang
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16:33
like everybody else has,
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「既然現在的老大都會像其他人一樣退休」
16:34
and the next generation is going to take over and get the wealth.
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「之後就換下一代掌權,接管這些財富」
16:38
There are striking similarities, I think, to the Internet boom.
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我認為,這和網路熱潮相當類似,對吧
16:41
The first set of people in Silicon Valley got very, very rich.
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首批進矽谷的電子新貴紛紛致富
16:44
And then all of my friends said, "Maybe I should go do that, too."
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然後所有人都想:「也許我也該做這行」
16:48
And they were willing to work very cheap for stock options that never came.
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他們願意削價競爭,只為了永遠不會得到的股票選擇權
16:53
In some sense, that's what happened, exactly,
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就某方面而言,同樣的事情也發生在
16:55
to the set of people we were looking at.
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16:58
They were willing to start at the bottom,
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我們的研究對象身上,他們願意從基層做起
17:01
just like, say, a first-year lawyer at a law firm
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就像律師事務所的律師
17:04
is willing to start at the bottom,
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甫執業的小律師之所以願意從基層做起
17:06
work 80-hour weeks for not that much money,
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每天工作八小時,賺取不甚多的薪資
17:08
because they think they're going to make partner.
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是因為他們認為自己有天可以成為合夥人
17:10
But the rules changed, and they never got to make partner.
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但後來遊戲規則改變,他們永遠當不上合夥人
17:13
Indeed, the same people who were running all of the major gangs in the late 1980s
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沒錯,在八十年代末期掌管各大幫派的人
17:17
are still running the major gangs in Chicago today.
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正是現在掌管芝加哥大幫派的同一批人
17:19
They never passed on any of the wealth,
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他們從未將任何財富傳承下去
17:21
So everybody got stuck at that $3.50-an-hour job,
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因此每個人都被時薪三塊半的工作套牢,悲慘至極
17:24
and it turned out to be a disaster.
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17:27
The other thing the gang was very good at was marketing and trickery.
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此外,幫派非常、非常擅長行銷和詐騙
17:31
And so for instance, one thing the gang would do is --
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例如,幫派會做這種事
17:35
the gang leaders would have big entourages,
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你知道,幫派老大的排場都很大
17:37
and they'd drive fancy cars and have fancy jewelry.
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開名車,佩戴高級珠寶
17:40
So what Sudhir eventually realized as he hung out with them more,
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蘇西耶和他們相處久了之後發現
17:43
is that, really, they didn't own those cars -- they just leased them,
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其實,這些車根本不是老大的
是租來的,因為他們買不起名車
17:47
because they couldn't afford to own the fancy cars.
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17:49
And they didn't really have gold jewelry, they had gold-plated jewelry.
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他們也沒有金飾,那些是鍍金的
17:53
It goes back to, you know, the real-real versus the fake-real.
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一切都是真真假假真真
17:56
And really, they did all sorts of things to trick the young people
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說實在,他們這麼做是為了欺騙青少年
18:00
into thinking what a great deal the gang was going to be.
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讓青少年以為混幫派是多麼了不起的事情
18:03
So for instance, they would give a 14-year-old kid
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舉例而言,他們會給十四歲的孩子
18:06
a whole roll of bills to hold.
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一大疊鈔票拿在手上
18:09
That 14-year-old kid would say to his friends,
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十四歲的小孩會覺得:「哇賽...」
18:12
"Hey, look at all the money I got in the gang."
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你知道,他會向朋友誇耀
「看!我在幫派裡得到這麼多錢」
18:14
It wasn't his money -- until he spent it,
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但那筆錢不是他的,等到他花掉那些錢之後
18:16
and then he was in debt to the gang,
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18:18
and was sort of an indentured servant for a while.
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他就欠幫派債了,之後就算是簽了契約的奴隸
18:20
So I have a couple minutes.
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看來我還有一些時間
18:22
Let me do one last thing I hadn't thought I'd have time to do,
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我們講最後一件事
我没想到我們有時間談談
18:26
which is to talk about what we learned more generally about economics,
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我們從幫派身上學到了什麼經濟學
18:31
from the study of the gang.
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18:33
So, economists tend to talk in technical words.
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經濟學家老愛用術語
18:37
Often, our theories fail quite miserably when we over the data,
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經濟學理論一牽扯到統計數據,就玩完了
18:40
but what's kind of interesting is that in this setting,
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但有趣的是,在這個情境下
18:43
it turned out that some of the economic theories
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有些不怎麼樣的經濟學理論
18:46
that worked not so well in the real economy
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18:48
worked very well in the drug economy,
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放在毒品經濟學裡面卻非常適切
18:50
in some sense, because it's unfettered capitalism.
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這可說是因為毒品交易是不受約束的資本主義
18:52
Here's an economic principle.
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這是個經濟學原則
18:54
This is one of the basic ideas in labor economics,
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是勞動經濟學的基礎,叫做「補償性工資差異」
18:56
called a "compensating differential."
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18:58
It's the idea that the increment to wages that a worker requires
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基本上就是說,你要調高勞工多少薪資
19:01
to leave him indifferent between performing two tasks,
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他才會心甘情願離開現有的工作崗位
19:04
one which is more unpleasant than the other.
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去從事另一個較辛苦的工作
19:06
Compensating differential -- it's why we think garbagemen might be paid more
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這就是所謂的補償性工資差異
這就是為什麼我們認為垃圾工人的薪水比公園清道夫高一點,對吧?
19:10
than people who work in parks.
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19:11
The words of one of the members of the gang, I think, make this clear.
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因此,套用一個幫派弟兄的話,這理論就清楚明白了
19:17
So it turns out -- I'm sort of getting ahead of myself --
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我們發現--我好像把後面的話先講出來了
19:20
it turns out, in the gang, when there's a war going on,
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我們發現,在幫派裡,如果有械鬥發生
19:23
they actually pay the foot soldiers twice as much money.
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小囉嘍的薪水是平常的兩倍
19:26
It's exactly this concept.
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這是相同的概念
19:28
Because they're not willing to be at risk.
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因為沒人要冒險
19:30
And the words of a gang member capture it quite nicely, he says:
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有個幫派弟兄掌握了其中的精髓
19:33
"Would you stand around here when all this shit ..." -- the shooting --
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他說「如果這邊鳥事一堆,你還會不閃嗎?」鳥事指的是槍戰
19:37
"... if all this shit's going on? No, right?
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「一定閃的呀,對吧?」
19:39
So if I gonna be asked to put my life on the line, then front me the cash, man."
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「所以如果要我冒著小命待在這裡拼命,那就把錢拿來」
基本上,我覺得這位弟兄把這個概念解釋得
19:43
I think the gang member says it much more articulately
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比任何經濟學家都要清楚
19:45
than the economist, about what's going on.
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(笑聲)
19:47
(Laughter)
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19:49
Here's another one.
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再舉一個例子
19:51
Economists talk about game theory,
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經濟學家提出賽局理論
19:52
that every two-person game has a Nash equilibrium.
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也就是,所有兩人對峙的賽局都會形成自然的平衡
19:55
Here's the translation you get from the gang member.
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用幫派弟兄的話翻譯一下
19:57
They're talking about the decision of why they don't go shoot --
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弟兄們談到為什麼他們不會亂開槍
20:00
One thing that turns out to be a great business tactic in the gang:
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開槍搗亂是幫派裡最佳商業策略
20:04
if you go and just shoot guns in the air in the other gang's territory --
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如果你對空開槍,只要去別幫的地盤上對空鳴槍
20:08
people are afraid to go buy drugs there,
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大家就不敢去他們那裡買毒品
20:10
they're going to come into your neighborhood.
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所有人都會到你的地盤上買
20:12
Here's what he says about why they don't do that:
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但這位弟兄解釋為什麼他們不來這套
20:15
"If we start shooting around there, the other gang's territory,
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他說:「如果我們在那裡(別幫的地盤上)開槍,沒半個人」
20:18
nobody, I mean, you dig it, nobody gonna step on their turf.
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「你瞭嗎,没半個人敢踏上他們的地盤」
20:21
But we gotta be careful,
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「但我們皮得繃緊一點」
20:22
'cause they can shoot around here too and then we all fucked."
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「因為他們也會來我們的地盤上開槍,我們就死定了」
(笑聲)
20:25
(Laughter)
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這是完全相同的概念
20:26
So that's the same concept.
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20:27
Then again, sometimes economists get it wrong.
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但有時候,經濟學家也會搞錯
20:29
One thing we observed in the data is that it looked like --
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我們從研究資料中得到一個發現,這近似於..
20:34
the gang leader always got paid.
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幫派老大總是有薪水可領,對吧
20:37
No matter how bad it was economically, he always got himself paid.
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不管經濟狀況多糟,他都會確保自己有錢領
20:42
We had some theories related to cash flow,
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我們也有一些有關現金流動的理論
20:44
and lack of access to capital markets, and things like that.
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缺乏資本市場通路云云
20:47
Then we asked the gang member,
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但我們問幫派弟兄:
20:48
"Why is it you always get paid and your workers don't always get paid?"
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「嗯,為什麼你總是有薪水可拿,手下卻没這種命?」
他回答:「手下那些黑鬼都在覬覦你的地位,瞭嗎?」
20:52
His response is,
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20:53
"You got all these niggers below you who want your job, you dig?
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「如果你開始自負盈虧,他們就會覺得你整個弱掉」
20:56
If you start taking losses, they see you as weak and shit."
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20:59
And I thought about it and said,
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我思索了一會兒
21:00
"CEOs often pay themselves million-dollar bonuses,
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「總裁常給自己上百萬的紅利」
21:04
even when companies are losing a lot of money.
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「即便公司面臨重大虧損,仍有紅利可拿」
21:06
And it never would really occur to an economist
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但經濟學家從沒想過這可能和「整個弱掉」的概念
21:09
that this idea of 'weak and shit' could really be important."
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21:11
(Laughter)
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有重大關連
也許「整個弱掉」
21:15
Maybe "weak and shit" is an important hypothesis that needs more analysis.
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也許「整個弱掉」這樣的假說值得深入探討
21:21
Thank you very much.
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謝謝大家
21:22
(Applause)
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