The freakonomics of McDonalds vs. drugs | Steven Levitt

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You'll be happy to know that I'll be talking not about my own tragedy,
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but other people's tragedy.
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It's a lot easier to be lighthearted about other people's tragedy
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than your own,
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and I want to keep it in the spirit of the conference.
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So, if you believe the media accounts,
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being a drug dealer in the height of the crack cocaine epidemic
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was a very glamorous life, in the words of Virginia Postrel.
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There was money, there was drugs, guns, women,
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you know, you name it -- jewelry, bling-bling -- it had it all.
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What I'm going to tell you today is that, in fact, based on 10 years of research,
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a unique opportunity to go inside a gang --
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to see the actual books, the financial records of the gang --
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that the answer turns out not to be
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that being in the gang was a glamorous life.
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But I think, more realistically, that being in a gang --
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selling drugs for a gang -- is perhaps the worst job in all of America.
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And that's what I'd like to convince you of today.
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So there are three things I want to do.
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First, I want to explain how and why crack cocaine
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had such a profound influence on inner-city gangs.
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Secondly, I want to tell you
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how somebody like me came to be able to see
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the inner workings of a gang -- an interesting story, I think.
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And then third, I want to tell you, in a very superficial way,
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about some of the things we found
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when we actually got to look at the financial records,
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the books, of the gang.
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So before I do that, just one warning,
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which is that this presentation has been rated 'R'
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by the Motion Picture Association of America.
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It contains adult themes, adult language.
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Given who is up on the stage, you'll be delighted to know
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that, in fact, there'll be no nudity --
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(Laughter)
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Unexpected wardrobe malfunctions aside.
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(Laughter)
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So let me start by talking about crack cocaine,
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and how it transformed the gang.
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To do that, you have to actually go back to a time before crack cocaine,
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in the early '80s, and look at it from the perspective of a gang leader.
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Being a gang leader in the inner city wasn't such a bad deal in the mid-'80s --
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the early '80s, let me say.
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Now, you had a lot of power, and you got to beat people up --
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you got a lot of prestige, a lot of respect.
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But the thing is, there was no money in it.
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The gang had no way to make money.
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You couldn't charge dues to the people in the gang,
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because the people in the gang didn't have any money.
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You couldn't really make any money selling marijuana --
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marijuana's too cheap, it turns out.
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You can't get rich selling marijuana.
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You couldn't sell cocaine;
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cocaine's a great product -- powdered cocaine --
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but you've got to know rich white people.
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And most of the inner-city gang members didn't know any rich white people,
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so couldn't sell to that market.
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You couldn't really do petty crime, either.
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Turns out, petty crime's a terrible way to make a living.
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As a result, as a gang leader, you had, you know, power --
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it's a pretty good life -- but the thing was, in the end,
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you were living at home with your mother.
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And so it wasn't really a career.
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There were limits to how powerful and important you could be
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if you had to live at home with your mother.
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Then along comes crack cocaine.
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And in the words of Malcolm Gladwell,
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crack cocaine was the extra-chunky version of tomato sauce
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for the inner city.
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(Laughter)
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Because crack cocaine was an unbelievable innovation.
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I don't have time to talk about it today, but if you think about it,
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I would say that in the last 25 years,
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of every invention or innovation that's occurred in this country,
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the biggest one in terms of impact
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on the well-being of people who live in the inner city,
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was crack cocaine.
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And for the worse -- not for the better, but for the worse.
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It had a huge impact on life.
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So what was it about crack cocaine?
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It was a brilliant way of getting the brain high.
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Because you could smoke crack cocaine -- you can't smoke powdered cocaine --
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and smoking is a much more efficient mechanism of delivering a high
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than snorting it.
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And it turned out there was this audience that didn't know it wanted crack cocaine,
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but when it came, it really did.
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And it was a perfect drug;
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you could buy the cocaine that went into it for a dollar,
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sell it for five dollars.
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Highly addictive -- the high was very short.
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So for fifteen minutes, you get this great high,
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and then when you come down,
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all you want to do is get high again.
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It created a wonderful market.
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And for the people who were there running the gang,
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it was a great way, seemingly, to make a lot of money.
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At least for the people on the top.
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So this is where we enter the picture.
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Not really me -- I'm really a bit player in all this.
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My co-author, Sudhir Venkatesh, is the main character.
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He was a math major in college who had a good heart,
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and decided he wanted to get a sociology PhD,
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came to the University of Chicago.
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Now, the three months before he came to Chicago,
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he had spent following the Grateful Dead.
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And in his own words, he "looked like a freak."
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He's a South Asian -- very dark-skinned South Asian.
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Big man, and he had hair, in his words, "down to his ass."
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Defied all kinds of boundaries:
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Was he black or white? Was he man or woman?
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He was really a curious sight to be seen.
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So he showed up at the University of Chicago,
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and the famous sociologist William Julius Wilson
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was doing a book that involved surveying people all across Chicago.
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He took one look at Sudhir, who was going to go do some surveys for him,
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and decided he knew exactly the place to send him,
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which was to one of the toughest, most notorious housing projects
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not just in Chicago, but in the entire United States.
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So Sudhir, the suburban boy who had never really been in the inner city,
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dutifully took his clipboard and walked down to this housing project,
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gets to the first building.
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The first building? Well, there's nobody there.
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But he hears some voices up in the stairwell,
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so he climbs up the stairwell, comes around the corner,
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and finds a group of young African-American men playing dice.
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This is about 1990, peak of the crack epidemic.
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This is a very dangerous job, being in a gang.
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You don't like to be surprised.
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You don't like to be surprised by people who come around the corner.
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And the mantra was: shoot first; ask questions later.
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Now, Sudhir was lucky -- he was such a freak,
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and that clipboard probably saved his life,
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because they figured no other rival gang member
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would be coming up to shoot at them with a clipboard.
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(Laughter)
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So his greeting was not particularly warm, but they did say,
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well, OK -- let's hear your questions on your survey.
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So -- I kid you not --
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the first question on the survey that he was sent to ask was:
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"How do you feel about being poor and Black in America?"
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(Laughter)
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Makes you wonder about academics.
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(Laughter)
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So the choice of answers were:
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[A) Very Good B) Good C) Bad D) Very Bad]
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(Laughter)
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What Sudhir found out is, in fact, that the real answer was the following:
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[A) Very Good B) Good C) Bad D) Very Bad E) Fuck you]
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(Laughter)
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The survey was not, in the end, going to be what got Sudhir off the hook.
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He was held hostage overnight in the stairwell.
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There was a lot of gunfire,
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there were a lot of philosophical discussions he had with the gang members.
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By morning, the gang leader arrived,
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checked out Sudhir, decided he was no threat,
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and they let him go home.
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So Sudhir went home, took a shower, took a nap.
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And you and I, probably, faced with the situation, would think,
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"I guess I'm going to write my dissertation on The Grateful Dead,
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I've been following them for the last three months."
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(Laughter)
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Sudhir, on the other hand,
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got right back, walked down to the housing project,
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went up to the second floor,
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and said: "Hey, guys, I had so much fun hanging out with you last night,
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I wonder if I could do it again tonight."
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And that was the beginning of what turned out to be a beautiful relationship
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that involved Sudhir living in the housing project on and off for 10 years,
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hanging out in crack houses, going to jail with the gang members,
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having the windows shot out of his car,
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having the police break into his apartment and steal his computer disks --
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you name it.
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But ultimately, the story has a happy ending for Sudhir,
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who became one of the most respected sociologists in the country.
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And especially for me,
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as I sat in my office with my Excel spreadsheet open,
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waiting for Sudhir to come and deliver to me the latest load of data
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that he would get from the gang.
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(Laughter)
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It was one of the most unequal co-authoring relationships ever --
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(Laughter)
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But I was glad to be the beneficiary of it.
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So what did we find?
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What did we find in the gang?
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Well, let me say one thing:
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We really got access to everybody in the gang.
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We got an inside look at the gang, from the very bottom up to the very top.
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They trusted Sudhir, in ways that really no academic has ever --
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or really anybody, any outsider -- has ever earned the trust of these gangs,
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to the point where they actually opened up
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what was most interesting for me -- their books,
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the financial records they kept.
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They made them available to us, and we not only could study them,
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but we could ask them questions about what was in them.
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So if I have to kind of summarize very quickly in the short time I have
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what the bottom line of what I take away from the gang is,
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it's that, if I had to draw a parallel between the gang
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and any other organization,
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it would be that the gang is just like McDonald's,
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in a lot of different respects -- the restaurant McDonald's.
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So first, in one way,
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which isn't maybe the most interesting way, but it's a good way to start --
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is in the way it's organized, the hierarchy of the gang,
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the way it looks.
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So here's what the org chart of the gang looks like.
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I don't know if you know much about org charts,
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but if you were to assign a stripped-down and simplified McDonald's org chart,
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this is exactly what it would look like.
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It's amazing, but the top level of the gang,
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they actually call themselves the "Board of Directors."
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(Laughter)
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And Sudhir says
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it's not like these guys had a very sophisticated view
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of what happened in American corporate life,
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but they had seen movies like "Wall Street,"
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and they had learned a little bit about what it was like
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to be in the real world.
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Now, below that board of directors,
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you've got essentially what are regional VPs --
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people who control, say, the South Side of Chicago, or the West Side of Chicago.
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Sudhir got to know very well the guy who had the unfortunate assignment
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of trying to take the Iowa franchise,
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which, it turned out, for this black gang,
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was not one of the more brilliant financial endeavors they undertook.
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(Laughter)
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But the thing that really makes the gang seem like McDonald's is its franchisees.
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The guys who are running the local gangs --
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the four-square-block by four-square-block areas --
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they're just like the guys, in some sense, who are running the McDonald's.
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They are the entrepreneurs.
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They get the exclusive property rights to control the drug-selling.
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They get the name of the gang behind them, for merchandising and marketing.
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And they're the ones who basically make the profit or lose a profit,
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depending on how good they are at running the business.
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Now, the group I really want you to think about, though,
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are the ones at the bottom -- the foot soldiers.
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These are the teenagers, typically,
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who'd be standing out on the street corner, selling the drugs.
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Extremely dangerous work.
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And important to note is that almost all of the weight, all of the people
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in this organization are at the bottom -- just like McDonald's.
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So in some sense, the foot soldiers are a lot like the people
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who are taking your order at McDonald's,
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and it's not just by chance that they're like them.
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In fact, in these neighborhoods, they'd be the same people.
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So the same kids who are working in the gang were actually,
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at the very same time, typically working part-time
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at a place like McDonald's.
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Which already foreshadows the main result that I've talked about,
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about what a crappy job it was, being in the gang.
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Because obviously, if being in the gang were such a wonderful, lucrative job,
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why in the world would these guys moonlight at McDonald's?
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So what do the wages look like? You might be surprised.
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But based on being able to talk to them and to see their records,
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this is what it looks like in terms of the wages.
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The hourly wage the foot soldiers were earning was $3.50 an hour.
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It was below the minimum wage. And this is well-documented.
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It's easy to see by the patterns of consumption they have.
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It really is not fiction -- it's fact.
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There was very little money in the gang, especially at the bottom.
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Now if you managed to rise up, say, and be that local leader,
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the guy who's the equivalent of the McDonald's franchisee,
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you'd be making 100,000 dollars a year.
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And that, in some ways, was the best job you could hope to get
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if you were growing up in one of these neighborhoods as a young black male.
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If you managed to rise to the very top,
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200,000 or 400,000 dollars a year is what you'd hope to make.
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Truly, you would be a great success story.
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And one of the sad parts of this is that, indeed,
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among the many other ramifications of crack cocaine
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is that the most talented individuals in these communities --
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this is what they were striving for.
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They weren't trying to make it in legitimate ways,
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because there were no legitimate channels out.
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This was the best way out.
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And it actually was the right choice, probably,
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to try to make it out this way.
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You look at this,
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the relationship to McDonald's breaks down here.
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The money looks about the same.
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Why is it such a bad job?
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Well, the reason it's such a bad job is that there's somebody shooting at you
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a lot of the time.
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So, with shooting at you, what are the death rates?
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We found, in our gang --
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and admittedly, this was not really a standard situation;
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this was a time of intense violence, of a lot of gang wars,
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as this gang actually became quite successful.
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But there were costs.
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And so the death rate --
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not to mention the rate of being arrested, sent to prison, being wounded --
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the death rate in our sample was seven percent per person per year.
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You're in the gang for four years,
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you expect to die with about a 25 percent likelihood.
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That is about as high as you can get.
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So for comparison's purposes,
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let's think about some other walk of life you may expect might be extremely risky.
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Let's say that you were a murderer
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and you were convicted of murder, and you're sent to death row.
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It turns out, the death rates on death row from all causes, including execution:
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two percent a year.
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(Laughter)
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So it's a lot safer being on death row
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than it is selling drugs out on the street.
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That gives you some pause, for those of you who believe
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that a death penalty's going to have an enormous deterrent effect on crime.
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To give you a sense of just how bad the inner city was during crack --
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and I'm not really focusing on the negatives,
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but really, there's another story to tell you there --
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if you look at the death rates just of random, young black males
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growing up in the inner city in the United States,
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the death rates during crack were about one percent.
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That's extremely high.
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And this is violent death -- it's unbelievable, in some sense.
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To put it into perspective: if you compare this to the soldiers in Iraq,
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for instance, right now fighting the war: 0.5 percent.
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So in some very literal way,
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the young black men who were growing up in this country
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were living in a war zone,
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very much in the sense that the soldiers over in Iraq are fighting in a war.
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So why in the world, you might ask,
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would anybody be willing to stand out on a street corner
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selling drugs for $3.50 an hour,
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with a 25 percent chance of dying over the next four years?
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Why would they do that?
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And I think there are a couple answers.
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I think the first one is that they got fooled by history.
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It used to be the gang was a rite of passage;
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that the young people controlled the gang;
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that as you got older, you dropped out of the gang.
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So what happened was,
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the people who happened to be in the right place at the right time --
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the people who happened to be leading the gang in the mid-to-late-'80s --
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became very, very wealthy.
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And so the logical thing to think
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was that they are going to age out of the gang
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like everybody else has,
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and the next generation is going to take over and get the wealth.
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There are striking similarities, I think, to the Internet boom.
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The first set of people in Silicon Valley got very, very rich.
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And then all of my friends said, "Maybe I should go do that, too."
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And they were willing to work very cheap for stock options that never came.
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In some sense, that's what happened, exactly,
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to the set of people we were looking at.
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They were willing to start at the bottom,
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just like, say, a first-year lawyer at a law firm
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is willing to start at the bottom,
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work 80-hour weeks for not that much money,
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because they think they're going to make partner.
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But the rules changed, and they never got to make partner.
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Indeed, the same people who were running all of the major gangs in the late 1980s
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are still running the major gangs in Chicago today.
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They never passed on any of the wealth,
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So everybody got stuck at that $3.50-an-hour job,
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and it turned out to be a disaster.
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The other thing the gang was very good at was marketing and trickery.
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And so for instance, one thing the gang would do is --
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the gang leaders would have big entourages,
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and they'd drive fancy cars and have fancy jewelry.
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So what Sudhir eventually realized as he hung out with them more,
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is that, really, they didn't own those cars -- they just leased them,
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because they couldn't afford to own the fancy cars.
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And they didn't really have gold jewelry, they had gold-plated jewelry.
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It goes back to, you know, the real-real versus the fake-real.
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And really, they did all sorts of things to trick the young people
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into thinking what a great deal the gang was going to be.
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So for instance, they would give a 14-year-old kid
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a whole roll of bills to hold.
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That 14-year-old kid would say to his friends,
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"Hey, look at all the money I got in the gang."
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It wasn't his money -- until he spent it,
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and then he was in debt to the gang,
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and was sort of an indentured servant for a while.
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So I have a couple minutes.
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Let me do one last thing I hadn't thought I'd have time to do,
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which is to talk about what we learned more generally about economics,
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from the study of the gang.
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So, economists tend to talk in technical words.
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Often, our theories fail quite miserably when we over the data,
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but what's kind of interesting is that in this setting,
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it turned out that some of the economic theories
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that worked not so well in the real economy
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worked very well in the drug economy,
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in some sense, because it's unfettered capitalism.
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Here's an economic principle.
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This is one of the basic ideas in labor economics,
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called a "compensating differential."
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It's the idea that the increment to wages that a worker requires
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to leave him indifferent between performing two tasks,
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one which is more unpleasant than the other.
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Compensating differential -- it's why we think garbagemen might be paid more
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than people who work in parks.
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The words of one of the members of the gang, I think, make this clear.
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So it turns out -- I'm sort of getting ahead of myself --
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it turns out, in the gang, when there's a war going on,
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they actually pay the foot soldiers twice as much money.
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It's exactly this concept.
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Because they're not willing to be at risk.
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And the words of a gang member capture it quite nicely, he says:
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"Would you stand around here when all this shit ..." -- the shooting --
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"... if all this shit's going on? No, right?
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So if I gonna be asked to put my life on the line, then front me the cash, man."
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I think the gang member says it much more articulately
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than the economist, about what's going on.
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(Laughter)
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Here's another one.
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Economists talk about game theory,
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that every two-person game has a Nash equilibrium.
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Here's the translation you get from the gang member.
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They're talking about the decision of why they don't go shoot --
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One thing that turns out to be a great business tactic in the gang:
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if you go and just shoot guns in the air in the other gang's territory --
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people are afraid to go buy drugs there,
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they're going to come into your neighborhood.
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Here's what he says about why they don't do that:
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"If we start shooting around there, the other gang's territory,
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nobody, I mean, you dig it, nobody gonna step on their turf.
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But we gotta be careful,
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'cause they can shoot around here too and then we all fucked."
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(Laughter)
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So that's the same concept.
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Then again, sometimes economists get it wrong.
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One thing we observed in the data is that it looked like --
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the gang leader always got paid.
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No matter how bad it was economically, he always got himself paid.
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We had some theories related to cash flow,
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and lack of access to capital markets, and things like that.
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Then we asked the gang member,
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"Why is it you always get paid and your workers don't always get paid?"
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His response is,
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"You got all these niggers below you who want your job, you dig?
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If you start taking losses, they see you as weak and shit."
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And I thought about it and said,
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"CEOs often pay themselves million-dollar bonuses,
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even when companies are losing a lot of money.
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And it never would really occur to an economist
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that this idea of 'weak and shit' could really be important."
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(Laughter)
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Maybe "weak and shit" is an important hypothesis that needs more analysis.
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Thank you very much.
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(Applause)
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