Verna Myers: How to overcome our biases? Walk boldly toward them

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翻译人员: Wei He 校对人员: Yiding(Eden) Wen
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I was on a long road trip this summer,
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这个夏天我进行了一次长途旅行
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and I was having a wonderful time listening
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听着伊莎贝尔·威克逊的优秀作品《他乡暖阳》的有声读物
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to the amazing Isabel Wilkerson's "The Warmth of Other Suns."
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度过了一段非常美好的时光
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It documents six million black folks fleeing the South from 1915 to 1970
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这本书记录了,在1915年到1970年间,六百万黑人为了暂时逃离一切暴行
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looking for a respite from all the brutality
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逃离了南方
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and trying to get to a better opportunity up North,
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以期在北方获得更好的机会
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and it was filled with stories of the resilience and the brilliance
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这本书里满是故事,展现了非裔美国人的
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of African-Americans,
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适应能力和才智
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and it was also really hard to hear all the stories of the horrors
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但是我不忍去听完那些让我们感到恐惧,
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羞辱的,以及所有关乎廉耻心的故事。
00:56
It was especially hard to hear about the beatings and the burnings
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当听到黑人遭受毒打、火刑,被私刑处死的时候,
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and the lynchings of black men.
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我特别难受
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And I said, "You know, this is a little deep.
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当时我说,“嗯,这有点沉重。
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I need a break. I'm going to turn on the radio."
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我需要缓一缓。还是听收音机吧。”
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I turned it on, and there it was:
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我打开了收音机,然后听到播报
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Ferguson, Missouri,
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在密苏里州的弗格森市
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Michael Brown,
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18岁的黑人男性
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18-year-old black man,
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迈克尔·布朗
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unarmed, shot by a white police officer, laid on the ground dead,
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没有带任何武器,但是被白人警察击中,倒地死亡
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blood running for four hours
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血,流了整整四个小时
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while his grandmother and little children and his neighbors watched in horror,
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他的祖母、孩子、还有他的邻居惊恐地看着这一幕
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and I thought,
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我当时想:
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here it is again.
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居然又是这种事!
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This violence, this brutality against black men
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这种针对黑人男性的暴行,
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has been going on for centuries.
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已经持续了数个世纪
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I mean, it's the same story. It's just different names.
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我的意思是,世界发生着同样的故事,只是主角的名字不一样了而已
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It could have been Amadou Diallo.
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主角可以是阿马杜·迪亚洛
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It could have been Sean Bell.
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可以是西恩·贝儿,
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It could have been Oscar Grant.
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奥斯卡·格兰特
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It could have been Trayvon Martin.
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也可以是特雷沃恩·马丁
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This violence, this brutality,
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这种暴力、暴行
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is really something that's part of our national psyche.
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是我们民族心理真实的一部分
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It's part of our collective history.
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也是我们集体历史的一部分。
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What are we going to do about it?
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我们到底要怎么应对这种暴力、暴行?
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You know that part of us that still crosses the street,
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知道吗?我们当中部分人,看到黑人的时候,
仍旧会穿过街道避开他,
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locks the doors,
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clutches the purses,
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关紧房门,
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when we see young black men?
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拽紧钱包。
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That part.
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那部分人
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I mean, I know we're not shooting people down in the street,
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在我看来,虽然没有在街上直接把人击倒
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but I'm saying that the same stereotypes and prejudices
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但我认为他们持有同样的成见、同样的偏见
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that fuel those kinds of tragic incidents
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而这也助长了这种悲剧的发生。
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are in us.
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那一部分人就在我们中间
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We've been schooled in them as well.
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我们和他们一起上学。
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I believe that we can stop these types of incidents,
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我相信我们可以阻止这样的悲剧-
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these Fergusons from happening,
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让弗格森这样的事情不再发生
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by looking within and being willing to change ourselves.
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只要我们内省,愿意改变我们自己。
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So I have a call to action for you.
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所以我呼吁大家行动起来
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There are three things that I want to offer us today to think about
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今天我想让大家思考三点
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as ways to stop Ferguson from happening again;
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这三点可以防止弗格森这样的事情再次发生。
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three things that I think will help us
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我认为,这三点将帮助我们
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reform our images of young black men;
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改变我们对黑人男青年的印象
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three things that I'm hoping will not only protect them
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我希望这三点不仅可以保护他们
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but will open the world so that they can thrive.
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还可以为他们打开一个世界,这样他们就能得到发展。
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Can you imagine that?
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你们能想像得到吗?
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Can you imagine our country embracing young black men,
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想像我们国家,护佑着黑人男青年
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seeing them as part of our future, giving them that kind of openness,
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把他们看作我们未来的一部分,毫无偏见,风度翩翩的看待他们,
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that kind of grace we give to people we love?
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就像我们对待所爱的人那样
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How much better would our lives be? How much better would our country be?
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(这样),我们的生活能在多大程度上有所改善,我们的国家能在多大程度上有所改善?
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Let me just start with number one.
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让我们从第一点开始:
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We gotta get out of denial.
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我们必须不再否认。
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Stop trying to be good people.
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不要再装好人,
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We need real people.
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我们需要真真正正的人。
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You know, I do a lot of diversity work,
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大家知道,我做过很多和多元化相关的工作
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and people will come up to me at the beginning of the workshop.
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研讨会开始的时候,人们会来跟我说
“‘多元化’女士,非常高兴您能到来。”
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They're like, "Oh, Ms. Diversity Lady, we're so glad you're here" --
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04:14
(Laughter) --
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(笑声)--
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"but we don't have a biased bone in our body."
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“但是我们可没有偏见啊。”
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And I'm like, "Really?
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然后我就会说,“是吗?”
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Because I do this work every day, and I see all my biases."
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“我每天都研究这个问题,所以我知道自己所有的偏见。”
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I mean, not too long ago, I was on a plane
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不久之前,在飞机上
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and I heard the voice of a woman pilot coming over the P.A. system,
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我从公共广播系统里听到一位女飞行员的声音
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and I was just so excited, so thrilled.
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我当时非常兴奋,非常激动
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I was like, "Yes, women, we are rocking it.
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我想,“太棒了,女人,我们女人也可以开飞机了。
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We are now in the stratosphere."
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我们现在进入平流层了。”
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It was all good, and then it started getting turbulent and bumpy,
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飞机开始很稳,后来有点颠簸,忽上忽下。
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and I was like,
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我就想
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"I hope she can drive."
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“但愿她真的会开飞机。”
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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I know. Right.
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是的,我知道:
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But it's not even like I knew that was a bias
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当时我并未意识到那是一种偏见,
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until I was coming back on the other leg and there's always a guy driving
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然后,回程时,我坐了另一架飞机,全程都是一个男人在驾驶飞机
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and it's often turbulent and bumpy,
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飞机也经常动荡、颠簸
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and I've never questioned the confidence of the male driver.
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但我从未怀疑过那位男性飞行员-
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The pilot is good.
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那位飞行员非常出色。
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Now, here's the problem.
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这就是问题(所在了)。
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If you ask me explicitly, I would say, "Female pilot: awesome."
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如果你要我明确回答,我会说,“那位女飞行员,非常棒。 ”
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But it appears that when things get funky and a little troublesome, a little risky,
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但是当事情变得可怕,有点麻烦,有点冒险的时候
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I lean on a bias that I didn't even know that I had.
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我不知不觉就产生了偏见
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You know, fast-moving planes in the sky,
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大家都知道,对于在天空高速行驶的飞机来说,
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I want a guy.
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我还是想要男人来开飞机。
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That's my default.
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这就是我的偏见
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Men are my default.
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我更偏向男人
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Who is your default?
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你偏向谁?
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Who do you trust?
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你相信谁?
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Who are you afraid of?
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你害怕谁?
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Who do you implicitly feel connected to?
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你内心跟谁更亲近?
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Who do you run away from?
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你想要逃离谁?
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I'm going to tell you what we have learned.
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我现在要分享的是我们已经认识到的一些问题
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The implicit association test, which measures unconscious bias,
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在内隐联想测试中,我们测试了存在于潜意识中的偏见
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you can go online and take it.
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你可以上网测试一下-
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Five million people have taken it.
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已经有五百万人参加了测试
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Turns out, our default is white. We like white people.
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测试结果与现实相符,我们更偏向白人,我们喜欢白人
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We prefer white. What do I mean by that?
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我们更倾向于白人,具体来说呢?-
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When people are shown images of black men and white men,
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当人们看见黑人男性和白人男性的图片时
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we are more quickly able to associate
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我们能更快地
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that picture with a positive word, that white person with a positive word,
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把白人男性的图片和一个正面的词语联系起来
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than we are when we are trying to associate
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而要花更多的时间尝试将黑人的脸
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positive with a black face, and vice versa.
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同正面的词语联系起来。反之亦然:
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When we see a black face,
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当我们看见黑人面孔时
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it is easier for us to connect black with negative
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我们更容易把黑人与负面词语联系起来
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than it is white with negative.
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白人就不会那么轻易(和负面词语联系起来。)
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Seventy percent of white people taking that test prefer white.
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参加测试的白人中,百分之七十偏向白人
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Fifty percent of black people taking that test prefer white.
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参加测试的黑人中,百分之五十更喜欢白人
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You see, we were all outside when the contamination came down.
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你们看,我们都受到偏见的影响。
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What do we do about the fact that our brain automatically associates?
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那么,我们要如何应对我们大脑自动产生的联系呢?
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You know, one of the things that you probably are thinking about,
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你们可能正在思考,
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and you're probably like, you know what,
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可能正在想:
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I'm just going to double down on my color blindness.
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我以后决不会以肤色区分人。
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Yes, I'm going to recommit to that.
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好的,那我将重新讨论一下这个问题。
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I'm going to suggest to you, no.
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我要告诉你,不要那么做
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We've gone about as far as we can go trying to make a difference
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我们已经竭尽所能尝试做出改变
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trying to not see color.
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不以肤色区分人
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The problem was never that we saw color. It was what we did when we saw the color.
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但是问题并不在于我们区分人的肤色,而是在于我们区分人的肤色后所采取的行动
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It's a false ideal.
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不区分人的肤色,一个错误的想法
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And while we're busy pretending not to see,
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当我们忙于假装我们并不在乎肤色的时候
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we are not being aware of the ways in which racial difference
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我们没有意识到,种族差异是如何
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is changing people's possibilities, that's keeping them from thriving,
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改变人内心潜在的想法,这妨碍了人们的发展
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and sometimes it's causing them an early death.
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而且有时会造成他们过早死亡
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So in fact, what the scientists are telling us is, no way.
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事实上,科学家要告诉我们,不要
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Don't even think about color blindness.
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忽视肤色的不同。
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In fact, what they're suggesting is,
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事实上,他们想说的是:
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stare at awesome black people.
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看看那些了不起的黑人~
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
08:00
Look at them directly in their faces and memorize them,
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直面他们的脸,记住他们
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because when we look at awesome folks who are black,
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当我们看着一些了不起的黑人的时候
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it helps to dissociate
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这可以帮助解除
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the association that happens automatically in our brain.
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我们大脑自动产生的那些联系
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Why do you think I'm showing you these beautiful black men behind me?
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你们知道为什么我要展示我身后这些美丽的黑人面孔吗?
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There were so many, I had to cut them.
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这样的黑人有很多,我只能挑选部分
08:27
Okay, so here's the thing:
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我想说的是
08:28
I'm trying to reset your automatic associations about who black men are.
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我在尝试重新建立你们脑内关于黑人男性的自动联想
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I'm trying to remind you
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我想提醒你们
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that young black men grow up to be amazing human beings
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黑人男青年可以成长为非常出色的人
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who have changed our lives and made them better.
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他们改变了我们的生活,变得更加出色
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So here's the thing.
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-事实就是这样
08:49
The other possibility in science,
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科学只能
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and it's only temporarily changing our automatic assumptions,
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暂时改变我们自动生成的假设
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but one thing we know
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但是我们知道
08:57
is that if you take a white person who is odious that you know,
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如果让你拿出一张照片,上面是一个你知道的、可恶的白人
09:02
and stick it up next to a person of color,
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然后你把 这张照片贴到一个有色人种旁边
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a black person, who is fabulous,
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贴到一位出色的黑人旁边
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then that sometimes actually causes us to disassociate too.
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有时候这样做,也可以帮助我们解除脑内自动生成的联系
09:11
So think Jeffrey Dahmer and Colin Powell.
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所以,想想杰弗里·达默和科林·鲍威尔
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Just stare at them, right? (Laughter)
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看着他们好吗?(笑声)
09:19
But these are the things. So go looking for your bias.
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但是事实就是这样,所以请看看你自己的偏见
09:22
Please, please, just get out of denial and go looking for disconfirming data
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请一定不要否认,去找找那些可以说服你的资料。
09:26
that will prove that in fact your old stereotypes are wrong.
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这将证明,事实上,你过往的成见都是错误的
09:30
Okay, so that's number one: number two,
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好的,以上就是第一点,那么第二点
09:32
what I'm going to say is move toward young black men instead of away from them.
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我要说的是,靠近那些黑人男青年,不要躲避
09:37
It's not the hardest thing to do,
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虽然这并不是最困难的事
09:40
but it's also one of these things
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但的确有难度
09:43
where you have to be conscious and intentional about it.
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你必须意识清醒地、试图这么去做
09:46
You know, I was in a Wall Street area one time several years ago
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几年前有段时间我曾在华尔街工作
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when I was with a colleague of mine, and she's really wonderful
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我跟我的同事在一起,她是一个非常好的人
09:53
and she does diversity work with me and she's a woman of color, she's Korean.
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跟我一起工作,致力于多元性,她也是有色人种,是韩国人
09:56
And we were outside, it was late at night,
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当时已经很晚了,我们在外面
09:58
and we were sort of wondering where we were going, we were lost.
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我们迷路了, 正在想我们是走到了哪
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And I saw this person across the street, and I was thinking, "Oh great, black guy."
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然后我看见一个人穿过街道,我当时想,“太好了,黑人。”
10:05
I was going toward him without even thinking about it.
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我想都没想地就向他走过去
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And she was like, "Oh, that's interesting."
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我的同事就说,“真有趣。”
10:12
The guy across the street, he was a black guy.
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那个人穿过马路,是个黑人
10:15
I think black guys generally know where they're going.
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我认为黑人一般都知道他们要去哪
10:18
I don't know why exactly I think that, but that's what I think.
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我也不知道我会为什么会这样认为,但我就是这么想的
10:22
So she was saying, "Oh, you were going, 'Yay, a black guy'?"
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我同事当时讲到,“你说的是,‘嘿,一个黑人。’”
10:27
She said, "I was going, 'Ooh, a black guy.'"
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“而我说的是,‘哦,有个黑人。’”
10:30
Other direction. Same need, same guy, same clothes,
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她走向了另一个方向。我们都要问路,但是面对同一个人,他就穿着那身衣服
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same time, same street, different reaction.
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在同一时间、同一街道,我们却有不同的反应
10:37
And she said, "I feel so bad. I'm a diversity consultant.
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“我感觉非常糟糕。我是一位多元性咨询顾问。”
10:40
I did the black guy thing. I'm a woman of color. Oh my God!"
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“我居然对黑人抱有偏见。我自己也是有色人种。我的天!”
10:43
And I said, "You know what? Please. We really need to relax about this."
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然后我说,“看来,我们的确需要放松一下了。”
10:47
I mean, you've got to realize I go way back with black guys.
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那末,你们一定意识到,我跟黑人颇有渊源了。
10:50
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
10:53
My dad is a black guy. You see what I'm saying?
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我的父亲是一位黑人,无疑的,对吗?
10:56
I've got a 6'5" black guy son. I was married to a black guy.
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我的儿子是黑人,1.65m,我和黑人结婚
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My black guy thing is so wide and so deep
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我和黑人的渊源很深、很广
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that I can pretty much sort and figure out who that black guy is,
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我可以很轻易地知道一个黑人,是怎样的人
11:08
and he was my black guy.
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那个我们迷路后遇到的黑人,是我的朋友
11:09
He said, "Yes, ladies, I know where you're going. I'll take you there."
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他说,“是的,女士,我知道你们要去的地方,我带你们去那。”
11:13
You know, biases are the stories we make up about people
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偏见是,我们在不了解一个人真实的一面时,
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before we know who they actually are.
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却杜撰了关于他子虚乌有的事。
11:19
But how are we going to know who they are
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但我们既被教导要避开他们,害怕他们,
11:22
when we've been told to avoid and be afraid of them?
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又如何了解他们,真实的为人?
11:26
So I'm going to tell you to walk toward your discomfort.
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所以我告诉你们,要直面那些让你不舒服的事情
11:31
And I'm not asking you to take any crazy risks.
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我不是要你们去疯狂地冒险
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I'm saying, just do an inventory,
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我只是想要你们想一想:
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expand your social and professional circles.
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在扩大你的社交圈,职业圈后,
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Who's in your circle?
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你的圈子里都有谁?
11:45
Who's missing?
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谁又不在其中?
11:47
How many authentic relationships
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你和黑人青年,不论男女,
11:51
do you have with young black people, folks, men, women?
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到底建立了多少可靠的关系?
11:58
Or any other major difference from who you are
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-换言之,他们与你在
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and how you roll, so to speak?
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生活方式上,有多少不同之处?
12:05
Because, you know what? Just look around your periphery.
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看看你们的周围吧!
12:08
There may be somebody at work, in your classroom,
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在你工作的地方,在你所在的教室里
12:10
in your house of worship, somewhere, there's some black young guy there.
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教堂里,不论何处,你总能看见黑人青年。
12:13
And you're nice. You say hi.
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如果你很友好,你会向他们问好。
12:15
I'm saying go deeper, closer, further, and build the kinds of relationships,
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我想说的是,让我们进一步,发掘更深层次,更亲密的关系
12:21
the kinds of friendships that actually cause you to see the holistic person
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这样的关系,事实上,可以让你更深入了解他整个人
12:27
and to really go against the stereotypes.
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从而真正地与成见做斗争。
12:30
I know some of you are out there,
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我知道你们当中部分人,
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-尤其是我的一些白人朋友会说
12:35
"You have no idea how awkward I am.
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“你不知道我有多笨拙。”
12:37
Like, I don't think this is going to work for me.
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“我不认为这种方法对我有用。”
12:40
I'm sure I'm going to blow this."
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“我肯定会搞砸。”
12:41
Okay, maybe, but this thing is not about perfection. It's about connection.
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好吧,也许如此,但是我们不需要做到完美,只要连接彼此。
12:47
And you're not going to get comfortable before you get uncomfortable.
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只有经历过痛苦,你才可能摆脱痛苦。
12:52
I mean, you just have to do it.
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你必须这么做。
12:54
And young black men, what I'm saying is
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我的意思是,如果黑人男青年
12:57
if someone comes your way, genuinely and authentically, take the invitation.
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与你相遇,你要真心地、真诚地与他交谈,
13:02
Not everyone is out to get you.
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-并不是所有人都会来找你。
13:04
Go looking for those people who can see your humanity.
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去找找那些,可以看到你博爱之心的人-
13:08
You know, it's the empathy and the compassion
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和与你不同的人交往,会让你
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that comes out of having relationships with people who are different from you.
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富有同情心, 怜悯心
13:16
Something really powerful and beautiful happens:
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这样就会发生非常具有影响力、且非常美妙的事情
13:19
you start to realize that they are you,
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你就会开始意识到,他们就是你们,
13:22
that they are part of you, that they are you in your family,
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他们是你们的一部分,是你们家庭的成员
13:28
and then we cease to be bystanders
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这样我们就不再是旁观者。
13:31
and we become actors, we become advocates,
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我们成为演员,倡导者
13:35
and we become allies.
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我们成为同盟。
13:37
So go away from your comfort into a bigger, brighter thing,
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所以离开你的家,进入到一个更广阔、更光明的区域,
13:43
because that is how we will stop another Ferguson from happening.
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这样我们将防止佛格森这样的事情再次发生。
13:48
That's how we create a community
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这样我们才能建立一个社区,
13:50
where everybody, especially young black men, can thrive.
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在这,每个人,尤其是黑人男青年,会得到发展
13:53
So this last thing is going to be harder,
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我要阐明的最后一点,可能有点点难以做到,
13:56
and I know it, but I'm just going to put it out there anyway.
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但它也是我着重阐述的:
13:59
When we see something, we have to have the courage to say something,
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当我们看见不对的事情的时候,我们要有勇气去表达我们的观点,
14:04
even to the people we love.
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即使是面对我们喜欢的人。
14:08
You know, it's holidays and it's going to be a time
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假期是我们围坐在桌边,
14:11
when we're sitting around the table and having a good time.
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享受美好时光的时间。
14:15
Many of us, anyways, will be in holidays,
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诚然,我们很多人都要去度假。
14:17
and you've got to listen to the conversations around the table.
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你们肯定会围在桌边,听大家讲话
14:22
You start to say things like, "Grandma's a bigot."
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你开始说,“祖母很顽固。”
14:29
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
14:30
"Uncle Joe is racist."
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“乔叔叔是一个种族主义者。”
14:33
And you know, we love Grandma and we love Uncle Joe. We do.
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但你知道,家人都爱祖母,爱乔叔叔,我们的确爱他们。
14:38
We know they're good people, but what they're saying is wrong.
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我们知道他们都是不错的人,但是说的话可不对。
14:45
And we need to be able to say something, because you know who else is at the table?
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我们应谈谈其他轻松的话题,(而不是背后嚼舌根)你知道桌子周围还坐着谁吗?
14:52
The children are at the table.
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-孩子们也坐在桌边。
14:55
And we wonder why these biases don't die, and move from generation to generation?
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我一直想知道,这些偏见为什么不能消失,而是一代一代传了下来?
15:00
Because we're not saying anything.
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因为我们没有出声纠正。
15:03
We've got to be willing to say, "Grandma, we don't call people that anymore."
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我们需要主动说,“外婆,我们可不再那样乱嚼了。”
15:10
"Uncle Joe, it isn't true that he deserved that.
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“不要这样说乔叔叔,我们不应该那样对他。”
15:15
No one deserves that."
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“我们不能那样对任何人。”
15:18
And we've got to be willing
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我们要主动
15:21
to not shelter our children from the ugliness of racism
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让孩子看到种族主义的丑陋之处
15:26
when black parents don't have the luxury to do so,
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虽然黑人父母做不到。
15:29
especially those who have young black sons.
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但,尤其是那些,拥有年幼黑人儿子的父母
15:34
We've got to take our lovely darlings, our future,
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我们一定要告诉可爱的孩子们,他们是我们的未来
15:37
and we've got to tell them we have an amazing country with incredible ideals,
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我们一定要告诉他们,我们的国家很伟大,拥有很了不起的理想
15:45
we have worked incredibly hard, and we have made some progress,
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我们十分努力地工作,取得一些进展
15:48
but we are not done.
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但是我们尚未达成目标。
15:51
We still have in us this old stuff
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我们仍旧保留了一些落后的东西-
15:55
about superiority and it is causing us
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关于优越性偏见的劣习。
这些偏见,深埋在我们的习俗制度之中
15:58
to embed those further into our institutions
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16:02
and our society and generations,
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在我们的社会中,一代一代地传下来
16:04
and it is making for despair
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让我们变得绝望。
16:08
and disparities and a devastating devaluing of young black men.
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并造成差异,而大大地削弱了黑人青年的价值
16:15
We still struggle, you have to tell them,
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我们还在奋斗,你必须告诉他们
16:17
with seeing both the color
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我们承认黑人青年在肤色,
16:20
and the character of young black men,
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性格上与我们不同
16:24
but that you, and you expect them,
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但是你们可以预见
16:27
to be part of the forces of change in this society
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他们会成为改变社会的力量之一
16:32
that will stand against injustice and is willing, above all other things,
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这个社会将与不公正做斗争,最重要的是,
16:38
to make a society where young black men can be seen for all of who they are.
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它愿意让所有的人了解黑人男青年的真实面貌。
16:48
So many amazing black men,
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我们有很多出色的黑人男性
16:53
those who are the most amazing statesmen that have ever lived,
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他们是历史上最出色的政治家,
17:01
brave soldiers,
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勇敢的士兵,
17:04
awesome, hardworking laborers.
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也是了不起的、辛勤的工人。
17:09
These are people who are powerful preachers.
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他们是富有影响力的布道者,
17:13
They are incredible scientists and artists and writers.
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伟大的科学家、艺术家和作家,
17:19
They are dynamic comedians.
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更是富有活力的喜剧演员。
17:23
They are doting grandpas,
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他们是和蔼的祖父,
17:28
caring sons.
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体贴的儿子,
17:31
They are strong fathers,
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强大的父亲。
17:36
and they are young men with dreams of their own.
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他们也是怀有自己梦想的青年。
17:40
Thank you.
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谢谢。
17:44
(Applause)
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(掌声)
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