Toby Eccles: Invest in social change

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翻译人员: Fiona Zhang 校对人员: Christine Chang
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I'm here today to talk about social change,
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今天,我想在这里谈论一下社会变革,
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not a new therapy or a new intervention
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这不是关于新的具体对策或干预方式,
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or a new way of working with kids or something like that,
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也不是关于处理儿童问题的新方法之类的,
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but a new business model for social change,
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而是一种新的社会变革的商业运作模式,
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a new way of tackling the problem.
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一种解决问题的新方法。
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In Britain, 63 percent of all men
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在英国,63%
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who come out of short sentences from prison
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经历过短期监禁的人
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re-offend again within a year.
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会在出狱后一年内重犯。
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Now how many previous offenses
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你们觉得,
00:40
do you think they have on average
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他们平均每人
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managed to commit?
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会有多少次前科?
00:45
Forty-three.
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43次。
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And how many previous times do you think they've been in prison?
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然后再想想,他们平均坐做过多少次牢?
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Seven.
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7次。
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So we went to talk to the Ministry of Justice,
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因此,我们和司法部进行谈判,
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and we said to the Ministry of Justice,
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我们对他们说,
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what's it worth to you
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如果重犯人数减少了,
00:59
if fewer of these guys re-offend?
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能给司法部带来多大经济价值?
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It's got to be worth something, right?
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多少会有些,对不对?
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I mean, there's prison costs,
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这其中有监狱的支出,
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there's police costs, there's court costs,
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有警方和法庭的开销,
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all these things that you're spending money on
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还有其他的针对他们善后开支。
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to deal with these guys. What's it worth?
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这里的经济价值有多少?
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Now, of course, we care about the social value.
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当然,我们也在乎社会价值。
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Social Finance, the organization I helped set up,
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“社会金融”是我协助建立的一个组织,
01:20
cares about social stuff.
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专门关注社会问题。
01:22
But we wanted to make the economic case,
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但我们想把这个计划做成经济项目,
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because if we could make the economic case,
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因为,如果我们可以做到这一点,
01:27
then the value of doing this would be completely compelling.
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这些计划就会有难以抗拒的吸引力。
01:30
And if we can agree on both a value
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如果我们能认同这种价值
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and a way of measuring whether we've been
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并商定一种衡量我们是否
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successful at reducing that re-offending,
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成功降低重犯率的方式,
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then we can do something
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那么我们就可以实施一些
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we think rather interesting.
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我们认为有趣的想法。
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The idea is called the social impact bond.
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这个想法叫做“社会效益债券”。
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Now, the social impact bond is simply saying,
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简而言之,“社会效益债券”是指,
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if we can get the government to agree,
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如果我们使得政府相信
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that we can create a contract where
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我们可以制订一份合同,说明
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they only pay if it worked.
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只有项目取得成效时政府才需要支付费用,
01:56
So that means that they can try out new stuff
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那就意味着,政府可以尝试新的方法
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without the embarrassment
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而不必应对
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of having to pay if it didn't work,
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破费却无果的尴尬境地。
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which for still quite a lot of bits of government,
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这对于许多政府而言
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that's a serious issue.
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是一个值得深思的问题。
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Now, many of you may have noticed
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现在,大家或许已经注意到
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there's a problem at this point,
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这里有一个问题,
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and that is that it takes a long time to measure
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那就是,检验有无取得意想中的成果
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whether those outcomes have happened.
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需要漫长的过程。
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So we have to raise some money.
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因此,我们需要筹集资金。
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We use the contract to raise money
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我们利用这份合同
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from socially motivated investors.
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从社会效益型投资者处筹集资金。
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Socially motivated investors:
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社会效益型投资者,
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there's an interesting idea, right?
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这是一个新颖有趣的概念,对不对?
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But actually, there's a lot of people who,
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但事实上,如果有机会的话
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if they're given the chance,
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很多人
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would love to invest in something
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乐意投资
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that does social good.
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可以产生社会效益的项目。
02:35
And here's the opportunity.
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而这里就提供了这么一个机会。
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Do you want to also help government find
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你是否也想帮助政府挖掘
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whether there's a better economic model,
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一个更好地商业运作模式?
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not just leaving these guys to come out of prison
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不仅仅是放任犯罪者出狱以后
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and waiting till they re-offend and putting them back in again,
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再次犯罪、再次入狱,
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but actually working with them
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而是要切实地帮助他们
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to move to a different path
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走上一条不同的道路
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to end up with fewer crimes
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以此降低犯罪率,
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and fewer victims?
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减少受害者。
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So we find some investors,
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因此,我们要召集一些投资者,
02:57
and they pay for a set of services,
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他们为一系列的服务提供资金,
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and if those services are successful,
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如果这些服务取得成功,
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then they improve outcomes,
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达到了改良(社会)的目的,
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and with those measured reductions in re-offending,
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那政府就因为重犯率下降
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government saves money,
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而节约了资金,
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and with those savings,
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而这些资金则可用于
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they can pay outcomes.
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支付这些效益的成本。
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And the investors do not just get their money back,
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这样,投资者不仅可以收回本金,
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but they make a return.
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还可以取得收益。
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So in March 2010, we signed
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在2010年3月,我们签署了
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the first social impact bond
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第一份“社会效益债券”
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with the Ministry of Justice
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(我们)与司法部合作,
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around Peterborough Prison.
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在彼得伯勒监狱开展了该项目。
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It was to work with 3,000 offenders
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我们把3000名犯罪者
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split into three cohorts of 1,000 each.
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分成3组,每组1000人。
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Now, each of those cohorts
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每组的成员
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would get measured over the two years
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自他们出狱时算起
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that they were coming out of prison.
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有两年的评估期。
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They've got to have a year to commit their crimes,
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他们可以有一年的时间再次犯罪,
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six months to get through the court system,
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有6个月的时间走完司法程序,
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and then they would be compared to a group
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然后我们会把他们与警方数据库中
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taken from the police national computer,
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基本情况应尽可能相似的
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as similar as possible,
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一组犯罪者作比较。
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and we would get paid
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我们得到报酬的条件是
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providing we achieved a hurdle rate of 10-percent reduction,
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达到重犯率降低10%的预期值,
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for every conviction event that didn't happen.
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所有被消灭罪行都将为我们带来收益。
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So we get paid for crimes saved.
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简而言之,犯罪率降低,项目有收益。
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Now if we achieved that 10-percent reduction
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如果三组犯罪者
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across all three cohorts,
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都减少了10%的重犯率,
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then the investors get a seven and a half percent
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那投资者就可以得到7.5%的
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annualized return on their investment,
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年投资回报率;
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and if we do better than that,
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如果项目效益比预期更好,
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they can get up to 13 percent
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那他们可以得到13%
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annualized return on their investment,
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的年投资回报率。
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which is okay.
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这是一件好事。
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So everyone wins here, right?
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大家各取所需,对不对?
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The Ministry of Justice can try out a new program
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司法部可以尝试一个新的项目,
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and they only pay if it works.
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而且是在有效的情况下才付款。
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Investors get two opportunities:
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投资者则有两种好处:
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for the first time, they can invest in social change.
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首先,他们可以投资社会变革。
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Also, they make a reasonable return,
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同时他们也能得到合理的收益。
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and they also know that
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他们也明白,
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first investors in these kinds of things,
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作为第一批参与这种项目的投资者,
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they're going to have to believers.
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他们必须是社会效益的拥护者,
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They're going to have to care in the social program,
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而且关注社会项目。
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but if this builds a track record
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如果该计划在5~10年中
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over five or 10 years,
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都有良好的收益,
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then you can widen that investor community
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那我们就可以扩大投资者的范围,
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as more people have confidence in the product.
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因为有更多的人对这个产品抱有信心。
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The service providers, well, for the first time,
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这些服务的提供者有史以来
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they've got an opportunity to provide services
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第一次有机会投资公共服务
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and grow the evidence for what they're doing
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并以一种积极的方式
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in a really constructive way and learn
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来见证他们所从事的事业。
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and demonstrate the value of what they're doing
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同时,他们可以在5~6年间
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over five or six years, not just one or two
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学习并展示这项事业的价值,而不是
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as often happens at the moment.
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在常规下短短的1~2年。
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Society wins: fewer crimes, fewer victims.
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社会也是赢家:犯罪率下降,受害者减少。
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Now, the offenders, they also benefit.
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而犯罪者也可以获益。
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Instead of just coming out of the prison
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从前,他们出狱时
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with 46 pounds in their pocket,
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兜里只揣着46英镑,
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half of them not knowing where they're spending
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一半人不知道出狱后的第一个晚上
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their first night out of jail,
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该在哪里度过。
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actually, someone meets them in prison,
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现在,有人会在犯罪者服刑期间就和他们接触,
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learns about their issues,
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了解他们的背景;
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meets them at the gate,
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出狱时,有人会在监狱门口接应他们,
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takes them through to somewhere to stay,
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带他们到住宿的地方,
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connects them to benefits, connects them to employment,
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帮助他们办理社会保险和就业,
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drug rehabilitation, mental health,
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联系戒毒中心、心理治疗
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whatever's needed.
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以及其他他们需要的东西。
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So let's think of another example:
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我们再来考虑另一个例子:
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working with children in care.
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帮助福利院中的儿童。
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Social impact bonds work great
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社会效益债券取得了很好的成果,
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for any area where there is at the moment
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尤其是在那些
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very expensive provision that produces
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花费高昂
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poor outcomes for people.
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却没有成效的领域。
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So children in the state care
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就福利院中的儿童而言
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tend to do very badly.
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他们的表现十分糟糕。
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Only 13 percent achieve a reasonable level
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只有13%的福利院孩子可以在16岁的时候
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of five GCSEs at 16,
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达到普遍的学业水平, (即完成五门普通中等教育证书考试)
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against 58 percent of the wider population.
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而在全英国的同龄人中,这个比例是58%。
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More troublingly, 27 percent of offenders in prison
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让人忧心的是,监狱中27%的犯罪者
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have spent some time in care.
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曾经生活在福利院中。
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And even more worryingly,
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更有甚者,
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and this is a Home Office statistic,
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内政部的数据显示,
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70 percent of prostitutes
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70%的妓女
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have spent some time in care.
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曾经生活于福利院。
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The state is not a great parent.
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(可见)国家并不是一位合适的家长。
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But there are great programs
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不过,现在有很好的项目
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for adolescents who are on the edge of care,
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服务于很可能要前往福利院的青少年,
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and 30 percent of kids going into care
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而福利院中30%的孩子
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are adolescents.
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是青少年。
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So we set up a program with Essex County Council
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因此我们与艾萨克斯县议会合作开展了一个项目,
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to test out intensive family therapeutic support
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来找出全面的家庭治疗方法
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for those families with adolescents
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以服务于那些可能有孩子要
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on the edge of the care system.
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前往福利院的家庭。
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Essex only pays in the event
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而艾克萨斯县政府只用为
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that it's saving them care costs.
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那些削减了开支的项目埋单。
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Investors have put in 3.1 million pounds.
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投资者共投入了310万英镑。
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That program started last month.
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这个项目于上个月开始运营。
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Others, around homelessness in London,
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还有其他一些项目,关注伦敦的流浪人群,
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around youth and employment and education
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关注全国各地年轻人的
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elsewhere in the country.
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就业和教育
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There are now 13 social impact bonds in Britain,
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现在,英国有13份社会效益债券。
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and amazing levels of interest in this idea
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而社会对其的热情持续高涨,
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all over the world.
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延展到全世界。
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So David Cameron's put 20 million pounds
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卡梅伦(英国首相)已经为支持此想法
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into a social outcomes fund to support this idea.
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向社会效益基金会支付了两千万英镑。
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Obama has suggested 300 million dollars
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奥巴马提议,从美国的预算中
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in the U.S. budget for these kinds of ideas
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抽出3亿美元来推进这些想法
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and structures to move it forward,
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和组织。
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and a lot of other countries
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还有很多国家
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are demonstrating considerable interest.
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表现出极大地兴趣。
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So what's caused this excitement?
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是什么让他们如此兴奋?
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Why is this so different for people?
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这对于人们而言有什么特别的?
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Well, the first piece, which we've talked about,
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首先,我们已经谈到过了,
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is innovation.
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是创新。
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It enables testing of new ideas
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它给尝试新想法提供了机会,
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in a way that's less difficult for everybody.
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且这种方式不会给人们制造麻烦。
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The second piece it brings is rigor.
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第二点是严密。
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By working to outcomes, people really have to test
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为了取得效益,人们必须反复试验
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and bring data into the situation that one's dealing with.
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并把数据信息应用于正在解决的问题上。
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So taking Peterborough as an example,
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以彼得伯勒(监狱)为例,
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we add case management
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我们把个案管理
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across all of the different organizations that we're working with
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添加到所有与我们合作的组织之中;
07:52
so they know
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因此他们能够知晓
07:53
what actually has been done with different prisoners,
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我们是如何对待不同类型的犯罪者,
07:55
and at the same time they learn
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同时,我们会主动从司法部
07:57
from the Ministry of Justice, and we learn,
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索要信息,因此他们(监狱)和我们
08:00
because we pushed for the data,
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都可以了解到
08:01
what actually happens, whether they get re-arrested or not.
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犯罪者的近况,有没有被再次逮捕。
08:04
And we learn and adapt the program accordingly.
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我们会研究并根据实际情况调整项目。
08:07
And this leads to the third element, which is new,
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这就带来了第三个,也是一个新的好处,
08:10
and that's flexibility.
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灵活性。
08:12
Because normal contracting for things,
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一般的合同
08:15
when you're spending government money,
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都是要政府付钱的,
08:17
you're spending our money, tax money,
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也就是说,要花我们纳税人的钱,
08:20
and the people who are in charge of that are very aware of it
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负责项目的人很清楚这一点。
08:22
so the temptation is to control exactly how you spend it.
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因此,关键是要控制花钱的方式。
08:26
Now any entrepreneur in the room knows
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在座的每一位企业家都明白,
08:29
that version 1.0, the business plan,
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这是商业计划的1.0版本
08:31
is not the one that generally works.
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而且通常是行不通的。
08:34
So when you're trying to do something like this,
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当你尝试开展这样的计划时,
08:36
you need the flexibility to adapt the program.
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就需要灵活性来调整这个计划。
08:39
And again, in Peterborough, we started off
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再回到彼得伯勒(监狱)的项目,
08:42
with a program, but we also collected data,
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我们在运营的同时也收集信息;
08:46
and over the period of time,
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过一段时间之后,
08:48
we nuanced and changed that program
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我们就根据现实与设想的差别来调整计划
08:50
to add a range of other elements,
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并加入了一系列新的元素,
08:53
so that the service adapts
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使得这些服务既能
08:54
and we meet the needs of the long term
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满足长期效益
08:57
as well as the short term:
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也能契合短期需求:即
08:59
greater engagement from the prisoners,
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更多的犯罪者
09:02
longer-term engagement as well.
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可以参与到期限更长的项目中。
09:05
The last element is partnership.
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最后一种好处是合作。
09:07
There is, at the moment, a stale debate going on very often:
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这其实是老生常谈:
09:11
state's better, public sector's better,
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国家变好,公众受惠,
09:13
private sector's better, social sector's better,
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个人获益,社会多赢。
09:16
for a lot of these programs.
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这是类似项目的普遍规律。
09:18
Actually, for creating social change,
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事实上,如果想推动社会变革,
09:20
we need to bring in the expertise
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我们需要充分利用
09:22
from all of those parties
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社会各界的专业知识
09:23
in order to make this work.
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才能使这成为可能。
09:25
And this creates a structure
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而这些项目创造了一种机制
09:27
through which they can combine.
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来融合各方的力量。
09:29
So where does this leave us?
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这一切都说明了什么?
09:31
This leaves us with a way
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它们提供了一种方法,
09:33
that people can invest in social change.
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让人们有机会投资社会变革。
09:36
We've met thousands, possibly millions of people,
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我们遇到成千甚至上百万的人
09:39
who want the opportunity to invest in social change.
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希望有机会投资社会变革。
09:41
We've met champions all over the public sector
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我们知道很多公共部门中的精英
09:44
keen to make these kinds of differences.
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都很热衷于创造不同。
09:47
With this kind of model,
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利用这种商业模式
09:48
we can help bring them together.
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我们可以把他们团结在一起。
09:50
Thank you.
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谢谢。
09:52
(Applause)
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(掌声)
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