Hidden Cameras Film Injustice in Dangerous Places | Oren Yakobovich | TED Talks
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翻译人员: Sam Sun
校对人员: Sherry Chen
00:12
I would like to start
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让我从一个小故事开始。
00:14
with the story of Mary,
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主人公是玛丽,
00:16
a woman from an African village.
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一个来自非洲乡村的女人。
00:19
Her first memories
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在她的记忆里,从小开始
00:21
are of her family fleeing violent riots
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她全家就在躲避暴乱,颠沛流离,
00:23
orchestrated by
the ruling political party.
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这一切都拜执政党所赐。
00:27
Her brother was murdered
by the state-sponsored militia,
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她的哥哥被政府支持的民兵杀害,
00:31
and she was raped more than once
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她也被多次强暴
00:33
just because she belonged
to the wrong party.
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仅仅因为她隶属“不良”党派。
00:38
One morning, a month before the election,
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选举前一个月的某天早上,
00:41
Mary's village was called
to another intimidation meeting.
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玛丽所在的村子里
上演了一场恐吓拉票集会。
00:45
In this meeting, there is a man
standing in front of them,
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会上,一个男子站在他们面前,
00:48
telling them, "We know who you are,
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对大家说,“我们认识你们,“
00:50
we know who you will vote for,
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“知道你们的票会投给谁,”
00:53
and if you're not going
to drop the right paper,
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“如果你们不做出
‘正确’的选择,”
00:55
we're going to take revenge."
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”我们会打击报复。”
00:59
But for Mary, this meeting is different.
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但对玛丽来说,这个会议不同寻常,
01:02
She feels different.
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她的感触也不同寻常。
01:03
This time, she's waiting for this meeting,
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这次,她有所期待,
01:06
because this time, she's carrying
a small hidden camera in her dress,
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因为这次,她衣服里
藏了一只隐形摄像机,
01:10
a camera that nobody else can see.
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一只没人能觉察的摄像机。
01:13
Nobody is allowed to film
in these meetings.
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这些会议严禁摄影,
01:15
You risk your life if you do.
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否则你将有生命危险。
01:17
Mary knows that, but she also knows
that the only way to stop them
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玛丽明白,但她也知道,
只有这样才能阻止他们,
01:22
and to protect herself and her community
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才能保护她自己
以及她的村庄。
01:25
is to expose their intimidation,
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只有把这种恐吓行为公之于众,
01:28
to make sure they understand
somebody is following them,
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让他们知道有人监督,
01:32
to break the impunity they feel.
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他们不能无法无天。
01:35
Mary and her friends were filming
for months, undercover,
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玛丽和她的朋友们
已经对执政党的恐吓行为
01:39
the intimidation of
the ruling political party.
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秘密地录制了几个月。
01:43
(Video) ["Filmed with hidden cameras"]
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(偷拍视频)
01:45
Man: We are now going to speak
about the upcoming elections.
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男子:我们要说说接下来的选举。
01:50
Nothing can stop us
from doing what we want.
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我们势不可挡,
01:53
If we hear you are with [The Opposition]
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如果你跟“反对党”一伙,
01:57
we will not forgive you.
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我们绝不原谅。
01:59
["Militia intimidation rally"]
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(民兵拉票会)
02:04
[The Party] can torture you at any time.
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“组织”可以随时对你们严刑拷打,
02:07
The youth can beat you.
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年青人不会放过你。
02:10
["Disruption of political meeting"]
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(会议被迫中断)
02:19
For those who lie, saying they
are back with [The Party],
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那些谎称要回归“党”的人,
02:23
your time is running out.
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你们的日子到头了。
02:26
["Party youth militia"]
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(青年民兵集会)
02:29
Some have died because they rebelled.
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有些反抗的人已经丧命,
02:31
Some have lost their homes.
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有些无家可归。
02:34
If you don't work together
with [The Party],
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如果不和“党”合作,
02:38
you will lead a very bad life.
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你们不会有好下场。
02:50
Oren Yakobovich: These images
were broadcast all over the world,
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这些画面现已在世界范围内播出,
02:53
but more importantly,
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更重要的是,
02:55
they have been broadcast
back to the community.
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也包括当地,
包括施暴者自己也看到了。
02:58
The perpetrators saw them too.
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03:01
They understood somebody
is following them.
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他们发现有人盯着他们。
03:03
They got scared. Impunity was broken.
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他们会害怕,不敢再无法无天。
03:07
Mary and her friends forced
the ruling political party
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玛丽和她的朋友们迫使执政党
03:10
not to use violence during the election,
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在选举中不得使用暴力,
03:12
and saved hundreds of lives.
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拯救了很多人的生命。
03:15
Mary is just one of hundreds of people
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玛丽是我们机构里
03:18
that my organization had helped
to document human rights violations
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用相机记录反人权行为的
03:21
using cameras.
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几百人之一。
03:24
My background should have
led me to a different direction.
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我的成长背景
本应带我走上一条不同的道路。
03:28
I was born in Israel
to a right-wing family,
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我出生在以色列的一个右翼家庭,
03:31
and as long as I remember myself,
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自小时候起的印象里,
03:33
I wanted to join the Israeli army
to serve my country
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我一直想要参军报国,
03:36
and prove what I believed
was our right for the whole land.
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为这片土地伸张正义。
03:40
I joined the Israeli army
just after the first intifada,
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在第一次巴勒斯坦起义之后,
03:46
the first Palestinian uprising,
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我加入了以色列军,
03:48
and I served in one of the hard-minded,
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服役于一个强硬、
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toughest, aggressive infantry units,
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坚毅、激进的步兵队。
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and I got the biggest gun in my platoon.
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我也得到队里最大的一架枪。
03:58
Quite fast, I became an officer
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很快,我当上一名军官,
04:01
and got soldiers under my command,
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手下也有了几名士兵。
04:04
and as time passed, I started
serving in the West Bank,
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再后来,我开始服役于约旦河西岸,
04:07
and I saw these images.
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目睹了以下这些画面。
04:17
I didn't like what I saw.
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我不喜欢眼前的一切。
04:20
It took me a while,
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挣扎了一段时间后,
04:21
but eventually I refused
to serve in the West Bank
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我最终辞去西岸的职责,
04:24
and had to spend time in jail.
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这也让我不得已被关入狱。
04:27
It was a bit —
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其实,
04:28
(Applause) —
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(掌声)
04:31
It was not that bad, I have to say.
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其实,我得承认,没那么糟。
04:33
It was a bit like being in a hotel,
but with very shitty food.
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跟旅馆有点像,只是吃的很烂。
04:36
(Laughter)
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(笑)
04:38
In jail, I kept thinking
that I need people to know.
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监禁期间,我一直想,
我要人们知道,
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I need people to understand
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我要人们明白,
04:43
what the reality
in the West Bank looks like.
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约旦河西岸的真实面貌。
04:46
I need them to hear what I heard,
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我要他们听我所听,
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I need them to see what I saw,
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见我所见,
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but I also understood, we need
the Palestinians themselves,
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但我也了解,
我们需要巴勒斯坦人民,
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the people that are suffering,
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那些经历苦难的人们,
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to be able to tell their own stories,
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能讲述他们自己的故事,
04:57
not journalists or filmmakers
that are coming outside of the situation.
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而不是透过置身事外的
记者、还是电影制作人。
05:04
I joined a human rights organization,
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我加入了一个人权机构,
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an Israeli human rights
organization called B'Tselem.
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一个叫做B'Tselem的以色列组织。
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Together, we analyzed the West Bank
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我们一同分析了西岸,
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and picked 100 families that
are living in the most risky places:
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挑选出100个身处险境的家庭:
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close to checkpoints, near army bases,
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它们在关卡旁、在军队基地边、
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side by side with settlers.
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紧邻着定居点。
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We gave them cameras and training.
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我们提供相机和相关培训。
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Quite fast, we started getting
very disturbing images
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很快的,我们开始收到
一些令人不安的画面:
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about how the settlers
and the soldiers are abusing them.
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画面里,他们受到
士兵和移民者的虐待。
05:35
I would like to share with you
two clips from this project.
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我想和大家分享
来自这个项目的两段影片。
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Both of them were broadcast in Israel,
and it created a massive debate.
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两段都在以色列播放过,
也引起了巨大的争议。
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And I have to warn you,
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我得提醒大家,
05:43
some of you might
find them quite explicit.
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有些人可能会觉得
画面过于暴力。
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The masked men you
will see in the first clips
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第一个画面中的蒙面人
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are Jewish settlers.
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是犹太移民者。
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Minutes before the camera was turned on,
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相机开启的几分钟前,
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they approached a Palestinian family
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他们朝一个正在耕作的
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that was working their land
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巴勒斯坦家庭靠近,
05:57
and told them that they
have to leave the land,
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告诉他们必须离开,
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because this land belongs
to the Jewish settlers.
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因为这片地属于他们犹太人定居点。
06:02
The Palestinians refused.
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巴勒斯坦人拒绝了。
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Let's see what happened.
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我们看看发生了什么。
06:07
The masked men that are approaching
are Jewish settlers.
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(视频)
画面中的蒙面人是犹太移民。
06:10
They are approaching
the Palestinian family.
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他们正向一个巴勒斯坦家庭逼近。
06:33
This is a demonstration in the West Bank.
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(视频)
这是约旦河西岸的一个示威。
06:35
The guy in green is Palestinian.
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穿绿衣的是巴勒斯坦人。
06:37
He will be arrested in a second.
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他马上会被逮捕。
06:39
Here you see him
blindfolded and handcuffed.
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现在你可以看到
他被戴上眼罩和手铐。
06:42
In a few seconds, he regrets
he came to this demonstration.
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接下来的几秒钟,
他会为自己的到来而后悔。
(枪声)
06:49
He's been shot in the foot
with a rubber bullet.
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他被一个橡胶子弹击中了脚。
06:55
He is okay.
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他没事儿。
07:00
Not all the settlers and the soldiers
are acting this way.
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并不是所有外来移民和士兵都如此。
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We're talking about a tiny minority,
but they have to be brought to justice.
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我们说的是极小的一部分,
但他们必须面对正义的审判。
07:09
These clips, and others like them,
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这些影片,以及其他类似的,
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forced the army and the police
to start investigations.
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迫使军队和警方开始介入调查。
07:14
They've been shown in Israel, of course,
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当然,它们已经在以色列播出,
07:16
and the Israeli public
was exposed to them also.
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在以色列的公众面前曝光。
07:20
This project redefined
the struggle for human rights
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这个项目重新定义了
受统治地区的人权斗争,
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in the occupied territories,
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07:24
and we managed to reduce the number
of violent attacks in the West Bank.
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也让西岸暴力袭击的数量
得以降低。
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The success of this project
got me thinking
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这个项目的成功让我思考
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how I can take the same methodology
to other places in the world.
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我怎样采取同样的方法,
运用到世界其他区域。
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Now, we tend to believe that today,
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现在,我们愿意相信,
07:40
with all of the technology,
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在拥有了现有科技、
07:41
the smartphones and the Internet,
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智能手机和互联网之后,
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we are able to see and understand
most of what's happening in the world,
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我们能够目睹和了解
世界上所发生的一切,
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and people are able to tell their story —
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人们能够讲述
他们的故事。
07:48
but it's only partly true.
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但这只是片面的。
07:50
Still today, with all
the technology we have,
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至今为止,
在现有的科技下,
07:53
less than half of the world's population
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世界上只有少于半数的人
07:56
has access to the Internet,
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能使用互联网,
07:58
and more than three billion people —
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还有超过30亿,
08:01
I'm repeating the number —
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我重申,
08:02
three billion people are consuming news
that is censored by those in power.
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还有30亿人,
还在审查制度中获取资讯。
08:10
More or less around the same time,
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差不多同时,
08:12
I'm approached by a great guy
named Uri Fruchtmann.
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一个叫Uri Fruchtmann的人找到我。
08:15
He's a filmmaker and an activist.
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他是个电影制片人和活动分子。
08:17
We understood we were
thinking along the same lines,
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我们知道我们目标一致,
08:20
and we decided to establish Videre,
our organization, together.
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于是决定共同成立 Videre。
08:26
While building the organization in London,
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在伦敦组建团队的时候,
08:29
we've been traveling undercover to places
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我们秘密走访了
08:31
where a community
was suffering from abuses,
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一些饱受摧残、
08:33
where mass atrocities were happening,
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暴力横行,
08:36
and there was a lack of reporting.
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又缺乏曝光的地区。
08:39
We tried to understand how we can help.
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我们试着了解
该如何提供援助。
08:43
There were four things that I learned.
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我们学到了四点:
08:45
The first thing is that we have to engage
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首先,我们需要与那些
08:48
with communities that are
living in rural areas,
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遭受暴力却远离公众视线的
08:51
where violations are happening
far from the public eye.
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偏远村庄建立联系。
08:54
We need to partner with them,
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我们需要和他们合作,
08:56
and we need to understand which images
are not making it out there
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需要了解那些不为人知的故事,
09:00
and help them to document them.
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并帮助他们记录下来。
09:03
The second thing I learned
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其次,我学到
09:05
is that we have to enable them
to film in a safe way.
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得让他们以一种安全的方式
进行拍摄。
09:09
Security has to be the priority.
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安全第一。
09:13
Where I used to work before,
in the West Bank,
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当我还在西岸工作的时候,
09:16
one can take a camera out,
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你能掏出摄像机,
09:17
most likely not going to get shot,
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八成也不会被一枪崩了,
09:20
but in places we wanted to work,
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但在我们要开展工作的
那些地方,
09:21
just try to pull a phone out,
and you're dead — literally dead.
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要敢拿出手机你就死定了,
真的死定了。
09:27
This is why we decided
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这就是为什么我决定
09:28
to take the operation undercover
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在必要的时候,
09:30
when necessary,
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尽可能地
09:31
and use mostly hidden cameras.
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使用隐形相机进行拍摄。
09:34
Unfortunately, I can't show you
the hidden cameras we're using today —
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很不幸,我不能给大家展示
09:37
for obvious reasons —
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我们正在使用的偷拍相机,
09:38
but these are cameras we used before.
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但这些是我们曾经用使过的机型。
09:41
You can buy them off the shelf.
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你可以在店里买到的。
09:43
Today, we're building
a custom-made hidden camera,
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如今,我们定制了一款隐形相机,
09:46
like the one that Mary was wearing
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类似玛丽身上的
09:48
in her dress to film
the intimidation meeting
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记录执政党
09:50
of the ruling political party.
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恐吓胁迫行径的相机。
09:52
It's a camera that nobody can see,
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这款相机很隐蔽
09:54
that blends into the environment,
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可以很好地融入周遭环境。
09:57
into the surroundings.
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09:59
Now, filming securities go beyond
using hidden cameras.
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现在,拍摄安全比使用
隐形相机本身更重要。
10:03
Being secure starts way before
the activist is turning the camera on.
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在打开摄像机之前,
就得确保安全。
10:08
To keep our partners safe,
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为了保障我们合作伙伴的安危,
10:10
we work to understand
the risk of every location
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我们致力了解每个地方、
10:12
and of every shot before it's happened,
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拍摄每张照片的风险,
10:15
building a backup plan
if something goes wrong,
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在可能出错的环节
做好应急措施,
10:18
and making sure
we have everything in place
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在展开行动之前,
10:20
before our operations start.
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确保一切就绪。
10:23
The third thing I learned
is the importance of verification.
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第三,我学到核实的重要性。
10:27
You can have an amazing shot of atrocity,
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你能捕捉到惊心动魄的暴行,
10:30
but if you can't verify it,
it's worth nothing.
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但如果无法核实真伪,
那它没有任何意义。
10:34
Recently, like in the ongoing war
in Syria or the war in Gaza,
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近来,在叙利亚,又或者加沙
持续的战争中,
10:37
we've seen images that are staged
or brought from a different conflict.
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我们看到一些摆拍的,
或从其他冲突中挪用的影像。
10:42
This misinformation destroyed
the credibility of the source,
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这些不实信息不光
损害了消息来源的可信度,
10:45
and it's harmed the credibility of other
reliable and trustworthy sources.
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也影响了其他
原本可信可靠的消息源。
10:50
We use a variety of ways to make sure
we can verify the information
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我们用多种途径确保
消息能够核实,
10:54
and we can trust the material.
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素材值得信任。
10:56
It starts with vetting the partners,
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这都从我们对合作者的审核开始,
10:58
understanding who they are,
and working with them very intensively.
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认识他们,和他们紧密合作。
11:01
How do you film a location?
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你该如何拍摄一个场景呢?
11:03
You film road signs, you film watches,
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你可以拍拍路标,手表,报纸,
11:05
you film newspapers.
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11:06
We are checking maps, looking at maps,
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我们可以查看地图,
11:11
double-checking the information,
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核对信息,
11:13
and looking also at
the metadata of the material.
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查询后备资料。
11:18
Now, the fourth and the most
important thing I learned
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第四点,也是我学到的最多的
11:21
is how you use images
to create a positive change.
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是如何利用这些图像
来创造一些正面的改观。
11:26
To have an effect,
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为了达到效应,
11:28
the key thing is how you use the material.
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关键在于如何使用这些材料。
11:32
Today, we're working
with hundreds of activists
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今天,我们同几百名积极分子一起
11:35
filming undercover.
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秘密拍摄。
11:36
We work with them both to understand
the situation on the ground
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我们一起了解当下处境,
看看还缺少哪些画面,
11:40
and which images
are missing to describe it,
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11:43
who are the ones that are
influencing the situation,
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谁能改变局面,
11:47
and when to release the material
to advance the struggle.
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什么时候发布这些资料,
来推进斗争。
11:52
Sometimes, it's about
putting it in the media,
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有时,这事关媒体,
11:54
mostly local ones, to create awareness.
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主要是当地的媒体,
来提高人们的意识。
11:56
Sometimes it's working
with decision makers,
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有时,这事关决策者,
11:58
to change laws.
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要他们去完善法制。
12:00
Sometimes, it's working with lawyers
to use as evidence in court.
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有时,是把这些资料当做证据。
12:04
But more than often,
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但更多时候,
12:06
the most effective way
to create a social change
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引发社会变革最有效的方法,
12:10
is to work within the community.
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是从体制内部开展工作。
12:12
I want to give you one example.
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给大家举个例子。
12:14
Fatuma is part of a network of women
that are fighting abuses in Kenya.
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Fatuma是肯尼亚一个
妇女反暴力组织中的一员,
12:20
Women in her community
have been harassed constantly
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社区中的女性
时常在上学和工作途中遭遇骚扰。
12:23
on their way to school
and on their way to work.
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12:26
They are trying to change
the behavior of the community from inside.
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她们试图由内而外地
改变这种局面。
12:29
In the next clip,
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在接下来的影片中,
12:32
Fatuma is taking us with her
on her journey to work.
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Fatuma将带领我们
走上她上班的路途。
12:36
Her voice is superimposed
on images that she filmed herself
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她为这段偷拍的影片
12:40
using hidden cameras.
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做了旁白。
12:43
(Video) Fatuma Chiusiku:
My name is Fatuma Chiusiku.
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(视频)
我叫Fatuma Chiusiku,
12:45
I'm 32 years old, a mother,
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32岁,是一个母亲,
12:47
And Ziwa La Ng'Ombe is my home.
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家在Ziwa La Ng'Ombe。
12:51
Each morning, I ride the mini-bus
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每天早上,我乘坐小巴,
12:53
Number 11.
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11路。
12:56
But instead of a peaceful journey to work,
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但上班的车程并非一路安宁,
12:59
each day begins with fear.
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而是充满恐惧。
13:02
Come with me now
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跟着我,
13:03
and use my eyes
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用我的眼睛,
13:05
to feel what I feel.
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体会我的感受。
13:11
As I walk, I think to myself:
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我边走边想:
13:13
Will I be touched?
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我会再一次被售票员偷摸吗?
13:15
Grabbed?
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偷抓?
13:16
Violated by this conductor again?
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冒犯?
13:20
Even the men inside
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就连车里的男人们
13:22
the way they look at me
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他们看我的样子,
13:24
touch my body, rub against me,
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摸着我的身子,磨蹭我,
13:26
grab me,
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抓我,
13:28
and now, as I sit in my seat
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现在,当我坐在座位上,
13:30
I only wish my mind was full
of thoughts for my day,
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多希望每天心里惦记着的
只是我的生活,
13:33
my dreams, my children at school,
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我的梦想,
我在上学的孩子,
13:35
but instead I worry about
the moment when we will arrive
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但我却要担心公车何时抵达,
13:39
and I will be violated again.
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而我是否会再一次被侵犯。
13:44
OY: Today, there is a new front
in the fight for human rights.
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今天,
我们的人权斗争
已经到了全新的阶段。
13:50
I used to carry a big gun.
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我曾经手持重型枪械。
13:52
Now, I am carrying this.
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现在,我拿着这个。
(偷拍相机)
13:55
This is a much more powerful
and much, much more effective weapon.
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这是个更有力,更有效的武器。
14:02
But we have to use its power wisely.
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但我们要善用它,
14:06
By putting the right images
in the right hands at the right time,
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在对的时间,
用对的影像,
给对的人。
14:11
we can truly create an impact.
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只有这样,
我们才能真的影响世界。
14:14
Thank you.
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谢谢。
14:16
(Applause)
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(掌声)
14:25
Thank you.
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谢谢大家。
(掌声)
14:27
(Applause)
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