Parag Khanna maps the future of countries

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翻译人员: Juncheng Sun 校对人员: Yuan Zhang
00:12
Do we live in a borderless world?
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我们生活在一个无国界的世界吗?
00:15
Before you answer that, have a look at this map.
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在您回答这个问题前,请看一下这张地图。
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Contemporary political map shows
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当代政治地图显示
00:20
that we have over 200 countries in the world today.
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世界上现有超过200个国家。
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That's probably more than at any time in centuries.
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这或许是多个世纪以来国家数目最多的时期。
00:26
Now, many of you will object.
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或许很多人会表示反对。
00:28
For you this would be a more appropriate map.
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那么这可能是一张更能说服你的地图。
00:31
You could call it TEDistan.
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你可以把它称作TED之图。
00:33
In TEDistan, there are no borders,
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在TED之图上,没有任何国界,
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just connected spaces and unconnected spaces.
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只存在相互连接的区域和毫不相连的区域。
00:38
Most of you probably reside in one of the 40 dots
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大部分在座的或许都生活在荧幕中图示的40个点中的某个点上,
00:42
on this screen, of the many more
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这些只是许多个点中的一部分,
00:44
that represent 90 percent of the world economy.
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而却代表了世界经济的90%。
00:47
But let's talk about the 90 percent of the world population
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而我们要知道, 世界人口中的90%
00:51
that will never leave the place in which they were born.
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永远都不会离开自己的出生地。
00:54
For them, nations, countries, boundaries, borders still matter a great deal,
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对他们来说,民族、国家、分界线和国界仍然关系重大,
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and often violently.
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甚至是至关重要。
01:02
Now here at TED, we're solving some of the great
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而在TED,我们试图解开科学中
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riddles of science and mysteries of the universe.
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和宇宙中一些伟大的谜团。
01:06
Well here is a fundamental problem we have not solved:
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而在这里我们有一个根本问题有待解决:
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our basic political geography.
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我们基本的政治地理学。
01:11
How do we distribute ourselves around the world?
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我们在地球上是如何分布的?
01:14
Now this is important, because border conflicts
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这个问题很重要,因为边界冲突
01:17
justify so much of the world's military-industrial complex.
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让世界上如此之多的军工联合体的存在合理化。
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Border conflicts can derail
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边界冲突能让我们期盼的许多进展
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so much of the progress that we hope to achieve here.
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偏离轨道。
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So I think we need a deeper understanding
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因此,我认为我们需要更加深刻的思考,
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of how people, money, power,
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人口、财富、权力、
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religion, culture, technology
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宗教、文化、科技
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interact to change the map of the world.
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是如何相互作用,从而改变世界地图的面貌的。
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And we can try to anticipate those changes,
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我们也可以试着预测这些改变,
01:36
and shape them in a more constructive direction.
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将他们导引至一个更加具有建设性的方向。
01:39
So we're going to look at some maps of the past,
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我们来看一下一些过去的和现在的地图,
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the present and some maps you haven't seen
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还有一些你们从未见过的地图,
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in order to get a sense of where things are going.
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来初步感受一下世界的走向。
01:47
Let's start with the world of 1945.
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我们首先来看一下1945年的地图。
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1945 there were just 100 countries in the world.
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1945年的时候,世界上正好有100个国家。
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After World War II, Europe was devastated,
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二次世界大战后,欧洲元气大伤,
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but still held large overseas colonies:
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但是仍然占有大量的海外殖民地:
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French West Africa, British East Africa, South Asia, and so forth.
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法属西非、英属东非和南亚,等等。
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Then over the late '40s,
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接着40年代末期,
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'50s, '60s, '70s and '80s,
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50年代、60年代、70年代和80年代,
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waves of decolonization took place.
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脱离殖民运动开始风气云涌。
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Over 50 new countries were born.
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诞生了50多个新的国家。
02:11
You can see that Africa has been fragmented.
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你可以看到非洲被打碎了。
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India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, South East Asian nations created.
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印度、巴基斯坦、孟加拉、东南亚国家建立了起来。
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Then came the end of the Cold War.
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之后冷战结束。
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The end of the Cold War and the disintegration of the Soviet Union.
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冷战结束和苏联的解体。
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You had the creation of new states in Eastern Europe,
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我们又见证了东欧一些新的国家的成立,
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the former Yugoslav republics and the Balkans,
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前南斯拉夫共和国和巴尔干半岛诸国,
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and the 'stans of central Asia.
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以及中亚的一些斯坦国。
02:32
Today we have 200 countries in the world.
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今天世界上有200多个国家。
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The entire planet is covered
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整个地球都被
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by sovereign, independent nation-states.
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自治区、独立国家/洲等所覆盖。
02:40
Does that mean that someone's gain has to be someone else's loss?
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这是不是说一些人的得必然是另外一些人的失呢?
02:45
Let's zoom in on one of the most strategic areas of the world,
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让我们将焦点对准世界上最具战略意义的地区,
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Eastern Eurasia.
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欧亚大陆东部。
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As you can see on this map,
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从地图上可以看到,
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Russia is still the largest country in the world.
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俄罗斯仍然是世界上最大的国家。
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And as you know, China is the most populous.
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大家也知道,中国是人口最多的国家。
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And they share a lengthy land border.
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这两个国家中间有一条漫长的陆地疆界。
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What you don't see on this map
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而大家从这张地图上看不见的是
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is that most of Russia's 150 million people
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俄罗斯1.5亿人口中的大部分
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are concentrated in its western provinces
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都集中在西部
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and areas that are close to Europe.
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靠近欧洲的省份和地区。
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And only 30 million people are in its eastern areas.
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仅有3000万人口居住在东部地区。
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In fact, the World Bank predicts
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事实上,世界银行预测
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that Russia's population is declining
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俄罗斯的人口正在减少
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towards about 120 million people
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逐渐减少至1.2亿。
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And there is another thing that you don't see on this map.
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此外还有一件事大家也无法从地图上得知。
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Stalin, Khrushchev and other Soviet leaders
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斯大林、克鲁晓夫和其他苏联的领导人
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forced Russians out to the far east
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曾经强迫俄罗斯人移居远东地区
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to be in gulags, labor camps,
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的古拉格、劳动集中营、
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nuclear cities, whatever the case was.
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核试验基地,等等。
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But as oil prices rose,
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但随着油价的上升,
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Russian governments have invested in infrastructure
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俄罗斯政府投资建设了基础设施
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to unite the country, east and west.
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以联结东部和西部。
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But nothing has more perversely impacted
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但是很难再像以前那样强蛮地
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Russia's demographic distribution,
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影响俄罗斯的人口分布了。
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because the people in the east, who never wanted to be there anyway,
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因为东部地区的那些居民一直都不愿意呆在那里,
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have gotten on those trains and roads
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他们登上火车和汽车
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and gone back to the west.
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返回了西部地区。
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As a result, in the Russian far east today,
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结果呢,现在的俄罗斯远东地区,
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which is twice the size of India,
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虽然面积是印度的两倍,
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you have exactly six million Russians.
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却只剩下了600万人口。
03:56
So let's get a sense of what is happening in this part of the world.
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那么让我们来了解一下这个地区现在正在发生什么。
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We can start with Mongolia, or as some call it, Mine-golia.
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我们先看一下蒙古国,也有人称呼它为矿之国。
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Why do they call it that?
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为什么这么称呼它呢?
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Because in Mine-golia, Chinese firms operate
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因为在矿之国,中国公司开采
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and own most of the mines -- copper, zinc, gold --
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和拥有那里的大部分矿藏 -- 铜矿、锌矿、金矿 --
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and they truck the resources south and east into mainland China.
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他们将这些资源用卡车运回中国大陆的南部和东部。
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China isn't conquering Mongolia.
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中国并没有在征服蒙古。
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It's buying it.
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而是在购买蒙古。
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Colonies were once conquered. Today countries are bought.
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过去殖民地是征服得来的,而今天国家是购买得到的。
04:22
So let's apply this principle to Siberia.
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同样的法则也适用于西伯利亚。
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Siberia most of you probably think of
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许多人可能都会认为西伯利亚
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as a cold, desolate, unlivable place.
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是个寒冷、荒芜和不适合居住的地方。
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But in fact, with global warming and rising temperatures,
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但事实上,随着全球暖化和温度上升,
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all of a sudden you have vast wheat fields
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忽然之间,那里出现了大片的麦田
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and agribusiness, and grain being produced in Siberia.
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农业贸易和谷物。
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But who is it going to feed?
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那么这些农产品是给谁消费的呢?
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Well, just on the other side of the Amo River,
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就在漠河的另外一边,
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in the Heilongjiang and Harbin provinces of China,
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就是中国的黑龙江等省
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you have over 100 million people.
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那里居住着超过1亿的人口。
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That's larger than the entire population of Russia.
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这比整个俄罗斯的人口都要多。
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Every single year, for at least a decade or more,
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每年,至少在过去10多年里都是如此,
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[60,000] of them have been voting with their feet,
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都有60万人口用他们的脚投票,
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crossing, moving north and inhabiting this desolate terrain.
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穿越边界,移民北方,居住在这些荒凉的地带。
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They set up their own bazaars and medical clinics.
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他们建立起了他们自己的百货市场和医疗诊所。
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They've taken over the timber industry
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他们还接手了伐木业,
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and been shipping the lumber east, back into China.
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将木材往东运回中国。
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Again, like Mongolia,
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和在蒙古发生的一样,
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China isn't conquering Russia. It's just leasing it.
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中国并不是在征服俄罗斯。只是在租赁而已。
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That's what I call globalization Chinese style.
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这就是我所称的中国式全球化。
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Now maybe this is what the map of the region
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也许这就是这个区域的地图
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might look like in 10 to 20 years.
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在10至20年后的样子。
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But hold on. This map is 700 years old.
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但有意思的是,这张地图已经700岁了。
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This is the map of the Yuan Dynasty,
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这正是中国元代的地图,
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led by Kublai Khan, the grandson of Genghis Khan.
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由忽必烈汗统治的朝代,成吉思汗的孙子。
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So history doesn't necessarily repeat itself,
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历史并不一定会重复,
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but it does rhyme.
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但却会重演。
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This is just to give you a taste of what's happening in this part of the world.
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这只是让大家稍微了解了一下这个地区正在发生什么。
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Again, globalization Chinese style.
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同样,中国式的全球化。
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Because globalization opens up all kinds of ways for us to
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因为全球化为我们带来了多种多样的可能性
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undermine and change the way we think about political geography.
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来变革我们思考政治地理的方式。
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So, the history of East Asia in fact,
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因此,事实上在东亚的历史中,
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people don't think about nations and borders.
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人们并没有太过关注国家和疆界。
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They think more in terms of empires and hierarchies,
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而更在意帝权和统治,
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usually Chinese or Japanese.
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通常是中国人和日本人。
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Well it's China's turn again.
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现在又轮到中国了。
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So let's look at how China is re-establishing
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让我们看一下中国是如何再次建立起
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that hierarchy in the far East.
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它在远东地区的统治地位的。
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It starts with the global hubs.
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它首先从全球性的区域中心开始。
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Remember the 40 dots on the nighttime map
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记得刚刚那张夜间地图中的40多个亮点吗?
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that show the hubs of the global economy?
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这些亮点标示出了全球经济的聚集区。
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East Asia today has more of those global hubs
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当今东亚地区拥有全世界最多的经济聚集区
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than any other region in the world.
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比世界上任何其他地区都多。
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Tokyo, Seoul, Beijing, Shanghai,
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东京、首尔、北京、上海、
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Hong Kong, Singapore and Sidney.
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香港、新加坡和悉尼。
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These are the filters and funnels of global capital.
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这些区域是全球资金的过滤网和漏斗。
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Trillions of dollars a year are being brought into the region,
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每年有数以兆计的资金流入这个区域。
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so much of it being invested into China.
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其中很多都投向了中国。
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Then there is trade.
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还有贸易。
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These vectors and arrows represent ever stronger
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这些指向线和箭头代表
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trade relationships that China has
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中国与区域内各国的贸易关系
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with every country in the region.
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史无前例地紧密。
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Specifically, it targets Japan
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尤其是它对日本、
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and Korea and Australia,
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韩国和澳大利亚的贸易,
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countries that are strong allies of the United States.
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这些国家都是美国的密切盟友。
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Australia, for example, is heavily dependent
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例如澳大利亚,非常依赖
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on exporting iron ore and natural gas to China.
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向中国出口铁矿石和天然气。
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For poorer countries, China reduces tariffs
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而在与贫穷国家交易时,中国降低关税
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so that Laos and Cambodia can sell their goods more cheaply
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因而老挝和柬埔寨可以以更便宜的价格销售他们的商品
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and become dependent on exporting to China as well.
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随之也对向中国的出口产生依赖。
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And now many of you have been reading in the news
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许多人都在新闻中看到
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how people are looking to China
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大家都很期待中国
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to lead the rebound, the economic rebound, not just in Asia, but potentially for the world.
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引领复苏,经济复苏,不仅仅是对亚洲,而可能是对全世界。
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The Asian free trade zone, almost free trade zone, that's emerging
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亚洲自由贸易区,几乎已经是自由贸易区了,正逐步显现。
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now has a greater trade volume than trade across the Pacific.
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贸易额超过了跨太平洋的贸易额。
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So China is becoming the anchor of the economy in the region.
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因此中国正成为该地区经济的靠山。
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Another pillar of this strategy is diplomacy.
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这一策略的另外一个支柱是外交。
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China has signed military agreements with many countries in the region.
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中国与该地区内的许多国家都签署了军事协议。
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It has become the hub of diplomatic institutions
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它已成为一些国际关系组织的中心
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such as the East Asian Community.
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例如东亚共同体。
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Some of these organizations don't even have
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有些组织甚至
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the United States as a member.
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将美国排除在外。
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There is a treaty of nonaggression between countries,
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这些国家间达成了一个互不干涉条约,
07:41
such that if there were a conflict between China and the United States,
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因而如果中国与美国之间发生冲突,
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most countries vow to just sit it out,
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大部分国家都会宣誓中立,
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including American allies like Korea and Australia.
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包括韩国和澳大利亚等美国盟友。
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Another pillar of the strategy,
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该策略的另外一个支柱,
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like Russia, is demographic.
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例如针对俄罗斯,是人口。
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China exports business people, nannies, students,
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中国向外输出商人、保姆、学生、
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teachers to teach Chinese around the region,
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和老师,在整个区域内教授中文,
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to intermarry and to occupy ever greater
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彼此通婚,以及在各个经济体中占据
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commanding heights of the economies.
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史无前例的主导性地位。
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Already ethnic Chinese people
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已经可以看到中国人
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in Malaysia, Thailand and Indonesia
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在马来西亚、泰国和印尼等国家中
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are the real key factors and drivers
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成为了当地经济不容忽视的
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in the economies there.
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关键因素和推动力。
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Chinese pride is resurgent in the region
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中国人的自豪感在这个区域也
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as a result.
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再次复苏。
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Singapore, for example, used to ban Chinese language education.
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例如新加坡,曾经一度禁止利用中文教学。
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Now it encourages it.
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而现在却大力提倡。
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If you add it all up what do you get?
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让我们综合来看,大家会得出什么结论?
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Well, if you remember before World War II,
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如果你还记得二战前
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Japan had a vision
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日本曾有一个梦想
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for a greater Japanese co-prosperity sphere.
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建立日本大东亚共荣圈。
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What's emerging today is what you might call
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而今一个我们可以称之为
08:36
a greater Chinese co-prosperity sphere.
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大中国共荣圈的形态正逐步显现。
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So no matter what the lines on the map tell you
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因此不管地图上的分界线是如何区隔
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in terms of nations and borders,
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出国家和划出疆界的,
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what you really have emerging in the far east
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在远东地区正在呈现的
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are national cultures,
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国家文化,
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but in a much more fluid, imperial zone.
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却是在一个流动的帝国区域里互通的。
08:50
All of this is happening without firing a shot.
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这些都是在不发一颗子弹的情况下发生的。
08:53
That's most certainly not the case in the Middle East
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而在中东地区却大相径庭,
08:56
where countries are still very uncomfortable
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这里的国家仍然对欧洲殖民者留下的疆界
08:59
in the borders left behind by European colonialists.
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感到非常不满。
09:02
So what can we do to think about borders differently in this part of the world?
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那么我们怎样能够换一种方式来看待这个区域的疆界问题呢?
09:06
What lines on the map should we focus on?
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我们应该关注地图上的哪些线呢?
09:08
What I want to present to you is what I call
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我要向大家展示的是一个我称之为
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state building, day by day.
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渐进式国家建立的概念。
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Let's start with Iraq.
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让我们从伊拉克谈起。
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Six years after the U.S. invasion of Iraq,
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美国入侵伊拉克6年后,
09:17
the country still exists more on a map than it does in reality.
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地图上的这个国家仍然是比现实中的完整很多。
09:20
Oil used to be one of the forces holding Iraq together;
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石油原本是将伊拉克各派势力团结在一起的因素。
09:23
now it is the most significant cause of the country's disintegration.
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而现在石油却是导致国家分裂的根源。
09:27
The reason is Kurdistan.
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原因是库尔德人。
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The Kurds for 3,000 years
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库尔德人3000年来
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have been waging a struggle for independence,
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一直进行着追求独立的斗争。
09:33
and now is their chance to finally have it.
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现在是他们可以最终获取独立的机会。
09:35
These are pipeline routes, which emerge from Kurdistan,
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这些是输油管道,源头从库尔德开始,
09:38
which is an oil-rich region.
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这是一个石油资源富饶的地区。
09:40
And today, if you go to Kurdistan,
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今天,如果你去库尔德,
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you'll see that Kurdish Peshmerga guerillas
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你会看到库尔德“自由斗士”
09:44
are squaring off against the Sunni Iraqi army.
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正对伊拉克逊尼派军队进行自卫攻击。
09:47
But what are they guarding?
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他们所要守护的是什么呢?
09:49
Is it really a border on the map?
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仅仅是地图上的一条疆界吗?
09:51
No. It's the pipelines.
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当然不是。是输油管道。
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If the Kurds can control their pipelines, they can set the terms
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如果库尔德人掌控了他们的输油管道,他们就可以起草
09:55
of their own statehood.
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建立他们自己的国家。
09:57
Now should we be upset about this, about the potential disintegration of Iraq?
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那么我们应该为之感到难过吗?因为伊拉克可能会被分裂。
10:00
I don't believe we should.
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我认为不然。
10:02
Iraq will still be the second largest oil producer in the world,
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伊拉克仍然会是世界上第二大产油国,
10:05
behind Saudi Arabia.
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仅次于沙特阿拉伯。
10:07
And we'll have a chance to solve a 3,000 year old dispute.
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而且我们有机会解决一个存在3000年的纷争。
10:10
Now remember Kurdistan is landlocked.
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不要忘记库尔德是一个被陆地包围的地区。
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It has no choice but to behave.
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它必须循规蹈矩。
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In order to profit from its oil
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要从它的石油中获取利益,
10:16
it has to export it through Turkey or Syria,
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它必须取道土耳其或者叙利亚输出石油,
10:19
and other countries, and Iraq itself.
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以及别的国家,包括伊拉克。
10:21
And therefore it has to have amicable relations with them.
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因而它必须要和他们保持友好关系。
10:24
Now lets look at a perennial conflict in the region.
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现在我们看一下这个地区另外一个连年不断的冲突。
10:27
That is, of course, in Palestine.
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显而易见,这就是巴勒斯坦。
10:29
Palestine is something of a cartographic anomaly
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巴勒斯坦从地图上看是一个畸形儿,
10:33
because it's two parts Palestinian, one part Israel.
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因为它由两部分巴勒斯坦和一部分以色列组成。
10:36
30 years of rose garden diplomacy
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30年的玫瑰花园外交
10:38
have not delivered us peace in this conflict.
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并没有给这里的区域冲突中带来和平。
10:41
What might? I believe that what might
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那有其他办法吗?我认为要这个
10:44
solve the problem is infrastructure.
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问题可以通过基础工程建设来解决。
10:46
Today donors are spending billions of dollars on this.
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今天,捐助者正花费数十亿美金在此项目上。
10:49
These two arrows are an arc,
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这两个箭头连成一条弧线,
10:51
an arc of commuter railroads and other infrastructure
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一条由客运火车线和其它基础设施连成的弧线
10:54
that link the West Bank and Gaza.
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连接西岸和加沙地带。
10:57
If Gaza can have a functioning port
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如果加沙有一个运营的港口
10:59
and be linked to the West Bank, you can have a viable Palestinian state,
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跟西岸连通起来,那么就可以切实可行地成立一个巴勒斯坦国,
11:02
Palestinian economy.
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以及巴勒斯坦经济体。
11:04
That, I believe, is going to bring peace to this particular conflict.
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我相信这一举措可以给这个区域带来和平。
11:08
The lesson from Kurdistan and from Palestine
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库尔德和巴勒斯坦的教训是
11:12
is that independence alone, without infrastructure,
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独立本身,如果没有基础建设的支持,
11:15
is futile.
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是没有意义的。
11:17
Now what might this entire region look like
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那么试想整个这个区域会呈现怎样一个面貌呢?
11:19
if in fact we focus on other lines on the map besides borders,
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如果我们也去关注地图上除了边界线之外的其他界线的话。
11:23
when the insecurities might abate?
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那时候不稳定因素会大幅减少吗。
11:26
The last time that was the case was actually
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上一次和平时期已经是
11:28
a century ago, during the Ottoman Empire.
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一个世纪以前的事了,在奥斯曼帝国时期。
11:30
This is the Hejaz Railway.
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这是Hijaz铁路线。
11:32
The Hejaz Railway ran from Istanbul to Medina via Damascus.
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Hijaz铁路线从斯坦布尔出发,途经大马士革,抵达麦地那。
11:36
It even had an offshoot running to Haifa
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它甚至有一条支线可以抵达海法,
11:38
in what is today Israel, on the Mediterranean Sea.
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位于今天的以色列,紧靠地中海。
11:40
But today the Hejaz Railway lies in tatters, ruins.
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但是今天的Hijaz铁路线破败不堪。
11:44
If we were to focus on reconstructing these curvy lines on the map,
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如果我们可以将地图上这些曲线重新建造起来的话,
11:47
infrastructure, that cross the straight lines, the borders,
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这些基础建设,穿越这些直线 -- 疆界,
11:50
I believe the Middle East would be a far more peaceful region.
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我相信中东会成为一个远比现在和平的地区。
11:54
Now let's look at another part of the world,
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让我们将目光转到地球上的另外一个区域,
11:56
the former Soviet Republics of Central Asia, the 'stans.
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位于中亚地区的前苏联地区,这些斯坦国。
11:59
These countries' borders originate from Stalin's decrees.
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这些国家的边界线来自于斯大林颁布的法令。
12:02
He purposely did not want these countries to make sense.
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他故意将这些国家分割得七零八落。
12:06
He wanted ethnicities to mingle
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他想让不同种族混居
12:08
in ways that would allow him to divide and rule.
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这样他就可以进行分裂和统治。
12:10
Fortunately for them, most of their oil and gas resources
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而对这些国家来说幸运的是,他们大部分的油气资源
12:13
were discovered after the Soviet Union collapsed.
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是在苏联垮台之后发现的。
12:16
Now I know some of you may be thinking, "Oil, oil, oil.
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我知道你们中的一些人肯定在想,“石油,石油,又是石油,
12:19
Why is it all he's talking about is oil?"
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为什么他老在说石油呢?”
12:21
Well, there is a big difference in the way we used to talk about oil
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请注意,以前我们讨论石油的方式和
12:24
and the way we're talking about it now.
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现在我们所讨论的方式是大不相同的。
12:26
Before it was, how do we control their oil?
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以前,我们会讨论我们如何控制他们的石油。
12:29
Now it's their oil for their own purposes.
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而现在是,他们怎样利用自己的石油。
12:31
And I assure you it's every bit as important to them
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我敢保证,现在对他们来说任何一滴石油都十分重要,
12:33
as it might have been to colonizers and imperialists.
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和曾经对于殖民统治者和帝国主义者那样同样重要。
12:37
Here are just some of the pipeline projections
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这里是一些计划中的输油管道
12:39
and possibilities and scenarios
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和一些可能的情况
12:41
and routes that are being mapped out for the next several decades.
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以及线路,也许会在未来的几十年内得以实现。
12:44
A great deal of them.
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非常之多。
12:46
For a number of countries in this part of the world,
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对这个区域的一些国家来说,
12:48
having pipelines is the ticket to becoming part of the global economy
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拥有输油管到就等同于拿到了加入全球经济体中的门票
12:51
and for having some meaning
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这对他们很有意义,
12:53
besides the borders that they are not loyal to themselves.
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加之边界对他们来存在变数。
12:55
Just take Azerbaijan.
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让我们举一下阿塞拜疆的例子。
12:58
Azerbaijan was a forgotten corner of the Caucuses,
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阿塞拜疆是高加索地区被遗忘一个的角落。
13:00
but now with the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline into Turkey,
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但是随着Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan输油管道通往土耳其,
13:04
it has rebranded itself as the frontier of the west.
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它已重新将自己标榜为西方的前哨。
13:08
Then there is Turkmenistan, which most people think of
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还有土库曼斯坦,在许多人的印象里
13:11
as a frozen basket case.
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它就是一个天寒地冻的毫无希望之地。
13:13
But now it's contributing gas across the Caspian Sea
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但是现在它正穿越里海将天然气
13:16
to provide for Europe,
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输往欧洲,
13:18
and even a potentially Turkmen-
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甚至有可能建造土库曼-
13:20
Afghan-Pakistan-India pipeline as well.
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阿富汗-巴基斯坦-印度输油管道。
13:24
Then there is Kazakhstan, which didn't even have a name before.
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还有哈萨克斯坦,之前甚至没有一个正式的名字。
13:26
It was more considered South Siberia during the Soviet Union.
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在苏联时期它更多地被称作南西部利亚。
13:30
Today most people recognize Kazakhstan
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而现在大部分人都认为哈萨克斯坦
13:32
as an emerging geopolitical player. Why?
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是一个新兴的地缘政治角色。为什么呢?
13:34
Because it has shrewdly designed pipelines to flow across the Caspian,
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因为它机智地设计了穿越里海的输油管道,
13:38
north through Russia, and even east to China.
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往北进入俄罗斯的管道,甚至向西进入中国的管道。
13:42
More pipelines means more silk roads, instead of the Great Game.
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管道越多意味着“丝绸之路”也越多,而不再是大博弈。
13:46
The Great Game connotes dominance of one over the other.
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大博弈意味着一个国家对另外一个国家的主导。
13:50
Silk road connotes independence and mutual trust.
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而丝绸之路意味着独立和互信。
13:53
The more pipelines we have, the more silk roads we'll have,
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输油管道越多,那么丝绸之路也会越多,
13:56
and the less of a dominant Great Game competition
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21世纪的主导权争夺战
13:59
we'll have in the 21st century.
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也会越来越少。
14:02
Now let's look at the only part of the world that really has brought down its borders,
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让我们来看一下这个世界上唯一真正放弃了边界的地区,
14:05
and how that has enhanced its strength.
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以及这一举动如何让它自身变得更加强大。
14:07
And that is, of course, Europe.
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当然,这就是欧洲。
14:10
The European Union began as just the coal and steel community of six countries,
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欧盟仅起源于6个煤炭和钢铁联盟的国家。
14:13
and their main purpose was really to keep the rehabilitation of Germany
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他们的主要目的实际上是为了帮助德国
14:17
to happen in a peaceful way.
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通过和平的方式得以复苏。
14:19
But then eventually it grew into 12 countries,
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但是却逐渐扩大到12个国家。
14:23
and those are the 12 stars on the European flag.
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这些国家就是欧盟旗帜上的12颗星。
14:25
The E.U. also became a currency block,
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欧盟也成为了一个货币联盟,
14:27
and is now the most powerful trade block in the entire world.
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它是世界上现今最强大的贸易联盟。
14:31
On average, the E.U. has grown by one country per year
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欧盟以平均每年吸纳一个新成员的速度扩张
14:34
since the end of the Cold War.
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自从冷战以来。
14:36
In fact most of that happened on just one day.
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事实上,许多新成员都是同一天加入的。
14:39
In 2004, 15 new countries joined the E.U.
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2004年,15个新成员国家加入了欧盟。
14:41
and now you have what most people consider
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现在,一个由
14:44
a zone of peace spanning 27 countries
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27个国家和4.5亿人口组成的公认的和平区域
14:46
and 450 million people.
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呈现在我们面前。
14:49
So what is next? What is the future of the European Union?
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那么下一步是什么?欧盟的未来会是怎样?
14:53
Well in light blue, you see the zones
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这个浅蓝色区域,你可以看到至少
14:55
or the regions that are at least two-thirds
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2/3的地方依赖于
14:57
or more dependent on the European Union
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与欧盟国家的
14:59
for trade and investment.
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贸易和投资。
15:01
What does that tell us? Trade and investment tell us
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这又能说明什么呢?贸易和投资告诉我们
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that Europe is putting its money where its mouth is.
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欧洲并不是在纸上谈兵,而是付出了实际的行动。
15:07
Even if these regions aren't part of the E.U.,
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即使这些区域不是欧盟成员国,
15:09
they are becoming part of its sphere of influence.
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他们正逐渐加入欧盟影响圈。
15:11
Just take the Balkans. Croatia, Serbia
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例如巴尔干半岛国家、克罗地亚、塞尔维亚、
15:14
Bosnia, they're not members of the E.U. yet.
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波斯尼亚,它们还不是欧盟成员国。
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But you can get on a German ICE train
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但是你如果登上一辆德国ICE火车
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and make it almost to Albania.
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几乎可以到达阿尔巴尼亚。
15:21
In Bosnia you use the Euro currency already,
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在波斯尼亚,你可以使用欧元,
15:24
and that's the only currency they're probably ever going to have.
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也许这将是他们从此以后使用的唯一货币。
15:27
So, looking at other parts of Europe's periphery, such as North Africa.
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让我们看一下欧洲的外围,例如北非。
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On average, every year or two,
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平均每年或者每两年,
15:33
a new oil or gas pipeline opens up under the Mediterranean,
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会有一条新的石油或者天然气运输管道穿越地中海,
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connecting North Africa to Europe.
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将北非与欧洲连接到一起。
15:39
That not only helps Europe diminish its reliance
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这不仅仅帮助欧洲减少了
15:41
on Russia for energy,
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对俄罗斯在能源上的依赖,
15:43
but if you travel to North Africa today, you'll hear more and more people saying
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而且如果你今天去北非旅游,你会听到越来越多的人说
15:46
that they don't really think of their region as the Middle East.
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他们并不属于中东地区。
15:49
So in other words, I believe that President Sarkozy of France
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也就是说,我非常认同法国总统萨克齐
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is right when he talks about a Mediterranean union.
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关于地中海联盟的观点。
15:56
Now let's look at Turkey and the Caucasus.
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再来看一下土耳其,和高加索国家。
15:59
I mentioned Azerbaijan before.
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我之前提到过阿塞拜疆。
16:01
That corridor of Turkey and the Caucasus
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土耳其和高加索地区的那条走廊
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has become the conduit for 20 percent
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已经成为欧洲20%能源供应的
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of Europe's energy supply.
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通道。
16:07
So does Turkey really have to be a member of the European Union?
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土耳其难道非得要成为欧盟成员国吗?
16:10
I don't think it does. I think it's already part of
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我认为不然。我认为它已经是
16:12
a Euro-Turkish superpower.
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欧洲-土耳其这个结构中的一个超级力量了。
16:15
So what's next? Where are we going to see borders change
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那么接下来呢?我们会在哪些地方看到边界线的改变
16:18
and new countries born?
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以及新国家的诞生?
16:20
Well, South Central Asia, South West Asia
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南亚中心地区,西南亚地区
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is a very good place to start.
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是一个很有可能的地方。
16:24
Eight years after the U.S. invaded Afghanistan
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在美国入侵阿富汗8年之后
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there is still a tremendous amount of instability.
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这个地区仍然充满了巨大的不稳定因素。
16:28
Pakistan and Afghanistan are still so fragile
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巴基斯坦和阿富汗仍然如此脆弱
16:31
that neither of them have dealt constructively
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以至于他们都没有实质性地处理
16:33
with the problem of Pashtun nationalism.
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普什图人的民族主义问题。
16:36
This is the flag that flies in the minds
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这是存在于2000万普什图人
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of 20 million Pashtuns
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心目中的国旗,
16:40
who live on both sides of the Afghan and Pakistan border.
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他们住在阿富汗和巴基斯坦边界线的两边。
16:43
Let's not neglect the insurgency just to the south,
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不要忘了在南部还有叛乱。
16:46
Balochistan. Two weeks ago,
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俾路支。两周前,
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Balochi rebels attacked a Pakistani military garrison,
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俾路支叛军对巴基斯坦的一个军事守备部队进行了攻击
16:51
and this was the flag that they raised over it.
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这就是他们在攻击时举起的旗帜。
16:54
The post-colonial entropy
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后殖民时期国家解体
16:56
that is happening around the world is accelerating,
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在全球发生并在加速。
16:58
and I expect more such changes to occur in the map
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我预期地图上如此的改变会
17:01
as the states fragment.
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随着这些国家的分解而越来越多。
17:03
Of course, we can't forget Africa.
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当然我们不能忘了非洲。
17:05
53 countries, and by far the most number
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53个国家,拥有世界地图上最多的充满
17:07
of suspiciously straight lines on the map.
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疑问的直线型疆界的地方。
17:10
If we were to look at all of Africa
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如果我们全盘地看一下非洲,
17:12
we could most certainly acknowledge far more,
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我们可以毫无异议地看到比其他地方多得多的
17:15
tribal divisions and so forth.
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诸如部落纷争之类的冲突。
17:17
But let's just look at Sudan, the second-largest country in Africa.
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我就举苏丹的例子,非洲第二大国家。
17:21
It has three ongoing civil wars,
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它有三场连绵不断的内战,
17:23
the genocide in Darfur, which you all know about,
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达尔福尔的种族灭绝战,这大家都知道,
17:26
the civil war in the east of the country,
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这个国家东部的内战,
17:28
and south Sudan.
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还有苏丹南部地区的内战。
17:30
South Sudan is going to be having a referendum in 2011
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南部苏丹将在2011年举行公投
17:33
in which it is very likely to vote itself independence.
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很可能这次投票的结果将是独立。
17:36
Now let's go up to the Arctic Circle.
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往北,到北极圈附近.
17:40
There is a great race on for energy resources
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这里正上演着一场对北极海床底下能源的
17:42
under the Arctic seabed.
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争夺战。
17:44
Who will win? Canada? Russia? The United States?
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谁会胜利?加拿大?俄罗斯?还是美国?
17:46
Actually Greenland.
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事实上格陵兰岛将是赢家。
17:48
Several weeks ago Greenland's [60,000] people
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数周前,格陵兰岛的6万居民
17:51
voted themselves self-governance rights
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投票表决,取得了从丹麦独立的
17:53
from Denmark.
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自治权。
17:55
So Denmark is about to get a whole lot smaller.
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因而丹麦将会缩小很多。
17:58
What is the lesson from all of this?
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这里得出的教训是什么呢?
18:00
Geopolitics is a very unsentimental discipline.
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地缘政治是一个非常冷酷的学科。
18:04
It's constantly morphing and changing the world,
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它不断地改变世界,
18:06
like climate change.
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好似气候变化。
18:08
And like our relationship with the ecosystem
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正如我们与生态系统的关系一样,
18:10
we're always searching for equilibrium
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我们总在寻找一种平衡
18:12
in how we divide ourselves across the planet.
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我们如何在这个星球上分布。
18:15
Now we fear changes on the map.
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我们害怕地图上的这些改变。
18:17
We fear civil wars, death tolls,
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我们害怕战争、死亡,
18:19
having to learn the names of new countries.
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以及熟悉新诞生的国家的名字等。
18:22
But I believe that the inertia of the existing borders that we have today
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但我认为, 我们今天边界线要是一直存在下去的话
18:25
is far worse and far more violent.
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更糟糕,会带来更多的暴力。
18:27
The question is how do we change those borders,
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问题是我们该如何改变这些边界线,
18:29
and what lines do we focus on?
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那些线条是我们要关注的?
18:31
I believe we focus on the lines that cross borders,
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我认为我们应该关注那些跨越边界的线,
18:33
the infrastructure lines.
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那些基础设施建设的线条,
18:35
Then we'll wind up with the world we want, a borderless one.
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我们就能打造一个我们所畅想的世界,一个无国界的世界。
18:38
Thank you.
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谢谢!
18:40
(Applause)
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