Parag Khanna maps the future of countries

652,479 views ・ 2009-09-28

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譯者: Grace En-Tien Chang 張恩典 審譯者: Adrienne Lin
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Do we live in a borderless world?
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我們是生活在一個沒有國界的世界嗎?
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Before you answer that, have a look at this map.
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回答這問題前,請先看看這張地圖:
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Contemporary political map shows
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當今的政治地圖顯示
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that we have over 200 countries in the world today.
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我們的世界超過200個國家,
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That's probably more than at any time in centuries.
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這可能是好幾世紀以來國家數目最多的時期,
00:26
Now, many of you will object.
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或許很多人會表示反對。
00:28
For you this would be a more appropriate map.
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對於你們來說這可能是較適當的地圖。
00:31
You could call it TEDistan.
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你可以稱它為TED國圖,
00:33
In TEDistan, there are no borders,
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在TED國圖上沒有任何國界,
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just connected spaces and unconnected spaces.
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只有相連和沒有相連的空間。
00:38
Most of you probably reside in one of the 40 dots
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大部分在場的人可能住在螢幕上
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on this screen, of the many more
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其中四十個亮點之一,
00:44
that represent 90 percent of the world economy.
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它們代表了九成的世界經濟體。
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But let's talk about the 90 percent of the world population
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但我們來談談那九成
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that will never leave the place in which they were born.
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永遠不會離開他們出生地的人們
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For them, nations, countries, boundaries, borders still matter a great deal,
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對他們來說,民族、國家、邊界和國界仍相當重要,
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and often violently.
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甚至生死相關的重要。
01:02
Now here at TED, we're solving some of the great
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在TED,我們試圖解決
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riddles of science and mysteries of the universe.
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一些在科學和宇宙中的重大謎團。
01:06
Well here is a fundamental problem we have not solved:
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在這裡就有個我們還沒解決的根本問題:
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our basic political geography.
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我們最基本的政治地理。
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How do we distribute ourselves around the world?
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我們在世界各地是怎麼分布的?
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Now this is important, because border conflicts
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這相當重要,因為邊界上的爭鬥
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justify so much of the world's military-industrial complex.
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往往合理化當今許多軍事/武器產業體系。
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Border conflicts can derail
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邊界衝突會將
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so much of the progress that we hope to achieve here.
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我們在那裡許多努力達到的社會進展化為烏有。
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So I think we need a deeper understanding
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所以我想我們有必要更深層的思考
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of how people, money, power,
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人、財富、權力、
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religion, culture, technology
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宗教、文化和科技
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interact to change the map of the world.
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如何交互作用以改變我們的世界地圖。
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And we can try to anticipate those changes,
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我們可以試圖去為這些改變做準備,
01:36
and shape them in a more constructive direction.
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讓它們能往更有建設性的方向發展。
01:39
So we're going to look at some maps of the past,
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所以我們要看看一些過去的地圖、
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the present and some maps you haven't seen
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現在的地圖和你從未見過的地圖
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in order to get a sense of where things are going.
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來感受一下事情會怎麼樣發展。
01:47
Let's start with the world of 1945.
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我們先從1945年的世界開始吧!
01:50
1945 there were just 100 countries in the world.
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1945年的時候世界上只有100個國家,
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After World War II, Europe was devastated,
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而二戰後歐洲斷垣殘壁,
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but still held large overseas colonies:
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但仍持有大量的海外殖民地:
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French West Africa, British East Africa, South Asia, and so forth.
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法國有西非、英國有東非、南亞等等,
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Then over the late '40s,
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到四零年代尾聲,
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'50s, '60s, '70s and '80s,
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五、六、七和八零年代時,
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waves of decolonization took place.
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各地區開始一波波的脫離殖民,
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Over 50 new countries were born.
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超過五十個新國家在這時候誕生。
02:11
You can see that Africa has been fragmented.
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你可以看到非洲被分的很散碎,
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India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, South East Asian nations created.
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印度、巴基斯坦、孟加拉和一些東南亞國家生成。
02:17
Then came the end of the Cold War.
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再來就是冷戰結束,
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The end of the Cold War and the disintegration of the Soviet Union.
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冷戰結束和蘇聯的瓦解。
02:24
You had the creation of new states in Eastern Europe,
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在東歐我們看到一些新國家建立,
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the former Yugoslav republics and the Balkans,
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原先的南斯拉夫和巴爾幹地區,
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and the 'stans of central Asia.
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還有中亞的各個尾音是"斯坦"的國家
02:32
Today we have 200 countries in the world.
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今天我們世界上有兩百個國家,
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The entire planet is covered
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整個地球都被
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by sovereign, independent nation-states.
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有主權、獨立的國家覆蓋住。
02:40
Does that mean that someone's gain has to be someone else's loss?
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這是不是說一些人的得必然是另外一些人的失呢?
02:45
Let's zoom in on one of the most strategic areas of the world,
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我們把焦點放在世界上最有戰略意義的地方之一吧!
02:48
Eastern Eurasia.
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歐洲大陸東部。
02:50
As you can see on this map,
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如你所見,
02:52
Russia is still the largest country in the world.
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世界上最大的國家仍是俄羅斯,
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And as you know, China is the most populous.
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也如你所知,中國是人口最多的,
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And they share a lengthy land border.
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兩國共享一個相當長的邊界,
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What you don't see on this map
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而你無法在這個地圖上看到的是
03:00
is that most of Russia's 150 million people
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在俄羅斯的1.5億人中大多數
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are concentrated in its western provinces
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集中在俄羅斯的西部區域
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and areas that are close to Europe.
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和鄰近歐洲的地區,
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And only 30 million people are in its eastern areas.
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只有3千萬人住在其東部地區。
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In fact, the World Bank predicts
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事實上,世界銀行預測
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that Russia's population is declining
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俄羅斯的人口正在
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towards about 120 million people
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往大約1.2億人下降。
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And there is another thing that you don't see on this map.
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另外一個你在這張地圖所看不到的是:
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Stalin, Khrushchev and other Soviet leaders
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史達林、克魯曉夫和其他前蘇聯領導人
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forced Russians out to the far east
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曾經強迫俄羅斯人移居遠東地區
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to be in gulags, labor camps,
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的古拉格、勞動集中營、
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nuclear cities, whatever the case was.
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核試驗基地,等等。
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But as oil prices rose,
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但隨著油價上漲
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Russian governments have invested in infrastructure
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俄羅斯政府已開始投資建設基礎建設
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to unite the country, east and west.
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來結合國家的東西橫向
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But nothing has more perversely impacted
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這項政策對於俄羅斯的人口分布
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Russia's demographic distribution,
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造成很大的影響,
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because the people in the east, who never wanted to be there anyway,
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因為那些居住在東部的人,本來就不想住那裏,
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have gotten on those trains and roads
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現在他們有了火車和馬路
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and gone back to the west.
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就開始往西部遷移,
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As a result, in the Russian far east today,
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那就是為什麼東部俄羅斯
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which is twice the size of India,
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雖然是印度的兩倍大
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you have exactly six million Russians.
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目前只有6萬俄羅斯人。
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So let's get a sense of what is happening in this part of the world.
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所以我們可以看看這部分的世界正在發生甚麼事,
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We can start with Mongolia, or as some call it, Mine-golia.
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我們先以蒙古開始,或者有些人稱它為 "礦"古 (英文音似Mine)
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Why do they call it that?
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為什麼人們這麼稱呼它?
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Because in Mine-golia, Chinese firms operate
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因為在蒙古,中國的公司運作
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and own most of the mines -- copper, zinc, gold --
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並擁有大部份的礦井 - 鋁、鋅、黃金...
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and they truck the resources south and east into mainland China.
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然後他們將這些礦產運往南部和東部到中國。
04:14
China isn't conquering Mongolia.
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中國不是在征服蒙古,
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It's buying it.
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他在併購他。
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Colonies were once conquered. Today countries are bought.
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殖民地曾經是被軍事攻占的,而現在的國家是被併購的。
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So let's apply this principle to Siberia.
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所以我們來將此原則套用到西伯利亞:
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Siberia most of you probably think of
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你們大部分想到西伯利亞應該是會想像
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as a cold, desolate, unlivable place.
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一個既寒冷、荒蕪又不適合人類居住的地方。
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But in fact, with global warming and rising temperatures,
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但事實上,因為全球暖化的溫度上升
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all of a sudden you have vast wheat fields
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在當地突然有廣大的麥田
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and agribusiness, and grain being produced in Siberia.
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和農業,稻穀在西伯利亞被生產。
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But who is it going to feed?
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但這是要餵養誰呢?
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Well, just on the other side of the Amo River,
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就是在漠河的另外一邊,
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in the Heilongjiang and Harbin provinces of China,
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中國的黑龍江等省那裡
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you have over 100 million people.
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我們有超過1億的人口,
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That's larger than the entire population of Russia.
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這比整個俄羅斯的人口都要多。
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Every single year, for at least a decade or more,
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至少十年的時間,每一年,
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[60,000] of them have been voting with their feet,
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有六萬人會離開這地方,
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crossing, moving north and inhabiting this desolate terrain.
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他們過境,往北移,移居到這個荒涼的地帶,
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They set up their own bazaars and medical clinics.
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建立他們自己的市集和診所,
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They've taken over the timber industry
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他們接管當地的伐木產業
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and been shipping the lumber east, back into China.
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將木材往東運,運回中國。
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Again, like Mongolia,
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就像蒙古,
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China isn't conquering Russia. It's just leasing it.
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中國不是在征服俄羅斯,只是在租借它。
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That's what I call globalization Chinese style.
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這是我所稱的中國式全球化。
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Now maybe this is what the map of the region
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所以這是這個區域
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might look like in 10 to 20 years.
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大概十或二十年後會長的樣子。
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But hold on. This map is 700 years old.
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但等等! 這張地圖七百多歲了!
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This is the map of the Yuan Dynasty,
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這是元朝的地圖,
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led by Kublai Khan, the grandson of Genghis Khan.
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在忽必烈(成吉思汗的孫子)掌權時的樣子。
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So history doesn't necessarily repeat itself,
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所以歷史未必會重演,
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but it does rhyme.
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但會循一定的模式重複發生
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This is just to give you a taste of what's happening in this part of the world.
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這就是給你嘗嘗,在世界的這個角落在發生的事。
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Again, globalization Chinese style.
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這又是中國式的全球化,
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Because globalization opens up all kinds of ways for us to
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因為全球化給我們開啟很多機會
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undermine and change the way we think about political geography.
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去顛覆並改變我們對於政治地理的了解。
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So, the history of East Asia in fact,
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所以在中亞的歷史中,
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people don't think about nations and borders.
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人們不太以國家和邊界來思考,
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They think more in terms of empires and hierarchies,
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而是以朝代和統治者,
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usually Chinese or Japanese.
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通常中國的或日本的。
06:03
Well it's China's turn again.
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好,現在我們再看看中國,
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So let's look at how China is re-establishing
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看看中國如何重新在
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that hierarchy in the far East.
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遠東地區建立那樣的統治,
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It starts with the global hubs.
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這一切都起源於國際經貿中心,
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Remember the 40 dots on the nighttime map
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記得剛剛那夜間地圖的四十個亮點嗎?
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that show the hubs of the global economy?
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他指出的是在我們全球經濟體裡的經貿中心。
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East Asia today has more of those global hubs
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東亞現在有更多這樣的經貿中心
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than any other region in the world.
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甚過世界上任何一個地區。
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Tokyo, Seoul, Beijing, Shanghai,
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東京、首爾、北京、上海、
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Hong Kong, Singapore and Sidney.
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香港、新加坡、雪梨
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These are the filters and funnels of global capital.
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這些都是全球資金的過濾網,
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Trillions of dollars a year are being brought into the region,
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上以兆計的前每年都被帶入這些地區,
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so much of it being invested into China.
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許多是投資到中國。
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Then there is trade.
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再來有貿易,
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These vectors and arrows represent ever stronger
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這些箭頭顯示的是中國
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trade relationships that China has
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與當地其它國家
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with every country in the region.
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愈來愈緊密的關係。
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Specifically, it targets Japan
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最主要它瞄準日本、
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and Korea and Australia,
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韓國和澳洲。
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countries that are strong allies of the United States.
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與美國有深厚聯盟的國家。
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Australia, for example, is heavily dependent
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比如說澳洲對於外銷
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on exporting iron ore and natural gas to China.
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鐵礦和天然氣到中國有強烈的依賴性。
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For poorer countries, China reduces tariffs
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對於較窮的國家,中國降低關稅,
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so that Laos and Cambodia can sell their goods more cheaply
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這樣寮國和柬埔寨可以用更低廉的價格外銷產品,
07:00
and become dependent on exporting to China as well.
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而因此對產品出口到中國也產生依賴性。
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And now many of you have been reading in the news
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相信你們很多人有在看新聞,
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how people are looking to China
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看人們怎麼看待中國
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to lead the rebound, the economic rebound, not just in Asia, but potentially for the world.
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將如何去領導經濟復甦,不只在亞洲,而是全世界。
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The Asian free trade zone, almost free trade zone, that's emerging
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亞洲漸漸形成的自由貿易區,幾乎是自由貿易區,
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now has a greater trade volume than trade across the Pacific.
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現在有比太平洋彼岸還大的經貿量,
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So China is becoming the anchor of the economy in the region.
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所以中國已漸漸成為此地區的靠山。
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Another pillar of this strategy is diplomacy.
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在這個策略之下另一個重點是外交,
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China has signed military agreements with many countries in the region.
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中國與該地區許多國家簽訂了軍事協定,
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It has become the hub of diplomatic institutions
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它已成為外交機構的中心,
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such as the East Asian Community.
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比如說東亞的社區。
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Some of these organizations don't even have
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有些這樣的組織會員甚至不包括
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the United States as a member.
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美國。
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There is a treaty of nonaggression between countries,
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各國之間建立了互不干涉條約,
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such that if there were a conflict between China and the United States,
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假使中國與美國發生衝突,
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most countries vow to just sit it out,
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大部分國家會宣誓中立,
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including American allies like Korea and Australia.
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包括韓國和澳大利亞等美國盟友。
07:51
Another pillar of the strategy,
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在這策略的另一個重點,
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like Russia, is demographic.
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像俄羅斯一樣,是人口。
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China exports business people, nannies, students,
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中國向外輸出商人、保姆、學生、
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teachers to teach Chinese around the region,
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和老師,在整個區域內教授中文,
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to intermarry and to occupy ever greater
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彼此通婚,以及在各個經濟體中
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commanding heights of the economies.
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佔據史無前例的主導性地位。
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Already ethnic Chinese people
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已經可以看到中國人
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in Malaysia, Thailand and Indonesia
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在馬來西亞、泰國和印尼等國家
08:11
are the real key factors and drivers
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成為了當地經濟不容忽視的
08:14
in the economies there.
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關鍵因素和推動力。
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Chinese pride is resurgent in the region
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因此在這些地區,中國人的驕傲
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as a result.
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再次復甦
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Singapore, for example, used to ban Chinese language education.
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比如說新加坡曾經禁止學習中文,
08:23
Now it encourages it.
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現在他們鼓勵學習中文。
08:25
If you add it all up what do you get?
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如果你們把這些東西全部加起來你會得到甚麼結論?
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Well, if you remember before World War II,
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如果你記得,二次世界大戰前,
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Japan had a vision
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日本曾有一個願景,
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for a greater Japanese co-prosperity sphere.
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想建立一個日本大東亞共榮圈。
08:34
What's emerging today is what you might call
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而現今正在漸漸浮現的你可以稱為
08:36
a greater Chinese co-prosperity sphere.
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中國大東亞共榮圈。
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So no matter what the lines on the map tell you
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所以不管世界地圖如何告訴你這是
08:41
in terms of nations and borders,
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國家的邊界,
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what you really have emerging in the far east
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在亞洲真正的狀況是,
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are national cultures,
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國家的文化,
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but in a much more fluid, imperial zone.
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但在一種更動態,帝國的趨向。
08:50
All of this is happening without firing a shot.
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這一切就自然而然的發生了,
08:53
That's most certainly not the case in the Middle East
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而在中東絕對不是這樣的狀態!
08:56
where countries are still very uncomfortable
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在那裏國家對於
08:59
in the borders left behind by European colonialists.
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歐洲殖民者遺留下來的國界還是相當不適應。
09:02
So what can we do to think about borders differently in this part of the world?
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所以我們在那個地方對於國界有甚麼樣的見解?
09:06
What lines on the map should we focus on?
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地圖上我們該注意哪些線?
09:08
What I want to present to you is what I call
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我想要給你看的是
09:10
state building, day by day.
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國家的建立,每日進度。
09:13
Let's start with Iraq.
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我們以伊拉克為起點吧!
09:15
Six years after the U.S. invasion of Iraq,
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在美國入侵伊拉克之後的第六年,
09:17
the country still exists more on a map than it does in reality.
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這個國家在地圖上的存在,比現實還真實。
09:20
Oil used to be one of the forces holding Iraq together;
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石油曾經是維繫伊拉克的要素之一,
09:23
now it is the most significant cause of the country's disintegration.
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現在卻是此國家瓦解的重要原因。
09:27
The reason is Kurdistan.
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這原因是因為庫德斯坦;
09:29
The Kurds for 3,000 years
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庫德族三千年以來
09:31
have been waging a struggle for independence,
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就在爭取獨立,
09:33
and now is their chance to finally have it.
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而現在是他們獨立的契機。
09:35
These are pipeline routes, which emerge from Kurdistan,
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這些是從庫德斯坦出來的管線,
09:38
which is an oil-rich region.
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它們的區域富含石油。
09:40
And today, if you go to Kurdistan,
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而當今,如果你進入庫德斯坦,
09:42
you'll see that Kurdish Peshmerga guerillas
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你會看到庫德族的Peshmerga游擊隊
09:44
are squaring off against the Sunni Iraqi army.
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正在跟伊拉克的遜尼軍隊作戰。
09:47
But what are they guarding?
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但他們在守護甚麼?
09:49
Is it really a border on the map?
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真的是地圖上的邊界嗎?
09:51
No. It's the pipelines.
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不,是那些管線。
09:53
If the Kurds can control their pipelines, they can set the terms
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如果庫德人可以控制管線,他們就可以控制
09:55
of their own statehood.
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談他們國家建立的條件。
09:57
Now should we be upset about this, about the potential disintegration of Iraq?
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我們應該為伊拉克可能的瓦解擔憂嗎?
10:00
I don't believe we should.
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我並不認為。
10:02
Iraq will still be the second largest oil producer in the world,
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伊拉克仍會是世界上第二大產油國,
10:05
behind Saudi Arabia.
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第一是沙烏地阿拉伯,
10:07
And we'll have a chance to solve a 3,000 year old dispute.
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而我們有機會解決一個維持三千年的爭議。
10:10
Now remember Kurdistan is landlocked.
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注意,庫德斯坦四周皆是陸地,
10:12
It has no choice but to behave.
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它不得不守規矩
10:14
In order to profit from its oil
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為了能從石油獲益,
10:16
it has to export it through Turkey or Syria,
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它需將石油輸出到其它國家,如土耳其、敘利亞
10:19
and other countries, and Iraq itself.
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還有伊拉克本身,
10:21
And therefore it has to have amicable relations with them.
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所以它與這些國家的關係必須維持好。
10:24
Now lets look at a perennial conflict in the region.
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現在我們來看看此區另一個連年不斷的衝突,
10:27
That is, of course, in Palestine.
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這當然是指巴勒斯坦:
10:29
Palestine is something of a cartographic anomaly
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從地圖上看是一個畸形兒,
10:33
because it's two parts Palestinian, one part Israel.
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因為它由兩部分巴勒斯坦和一部分以色列組成。
10:36
30 years of rose garden diplomacy
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30年的玫瑰花園外交 (指白宮的玫瑰花園)
10:38
have not delivered us peace in this conflict.
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並沒有給這裡的區域衝突中帶來和平。
10:41
What might? I believe that what might
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那甚麼能給他們帶來和平呢? 我相信
10:44
solve the problem is infrastructure.
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可以解決這問題的是基礎建設。
10:46
Today donors are spending billions of dollars on this.
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今天,捐助者正花費數十億美金在此項目上。
10:49
These two arrows are an arc,
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這兩個箭頭連成一條弧線,
10:51
an arc of commuter railroads and other infrastructure
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一條由客運火車線和其它基礎設施連成的弧線
10:54
that link the West Bank and Gaza.
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連接西岸和加薩地帶。
10:57
If Gaza can have a functioning port
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如果加薩可以有一個可運作的港口,
10:59
and be linked to the West Bank, you can have a viable Palestinian state,
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然後這個港口可以連接西岸,你就有一個可運作的巴勒斯坦國,
11:02
Palestinian economy.
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巴勒斯坦經濟。
11:04
That, I believe, is going to bring peace to this particular conflict.
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這,我相信,可以將和平帶到這個區域。
11:08
The lesson from Kurdistan and from Palestine
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從庫德斯坦和巴勒斯坦我們可以得到的教訓是
11:12
is that independence alone, without infrastructure,
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光有獨立,沒有基本建設
11:15
is futile.
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是沒有用的。
11:17
Now what might this entire region look like
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那我們想想這整個區域
11:19
if in fact we focus on other lines on the map besides borders,
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如果我們不只專注在地圖上的國界,會有甚麼不一樣?
11:23
when the insecurities might abate?
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不安感甚麼時候才會消除?
11:26
The last time that was the case was actually
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我們最後看到這樣的例子是
11:28
a century ago, during the Ottoman Empire.
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一個世紀前,奧圖曼圖耳其帝國的時候
11:30
This is the Hejaz Railway.
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這是Hijaz鐵路線。
11:32
The Hejaz Railway ran from Istanbul to Medina via Damascus.
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Hijaz鐵路線從伊斯坦堡出發,途經大馬士革,抵達麥地那。
11:36
It even had an offshoot running to Haifa
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它甚至有一條支線可以抵達海法,
11:38
in what is today Israel, on the Mediterranean Sea.
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位於今天的以色列,緊靠地中海。
11:40
But today the Hejaz Railway lies in tatters, ruins.
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但是今天的Hijaz鐵路線破敗不堪。
11:44
If we were to focus on reconstructing these curvy lines on the map,
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如果我們可以將地圖上這些曲線重新建造起來的話,
11:47
infrastructure, that cross the straight lines, the borders,
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重建這些穿越直線、疆界的基礎建設,
11:50
I believe the Middle East would be a far more peaceful region.
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我相信中東會成為一個遠比現在還和平的地區。
11:54
Now let's look at another part of the world,
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讓我們將目光轉移到地球上的另外一個區域,
11:56
the former Soviet Republics of Central Asia, the 'stans.
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位於中亞地區的前蘇聯地區,這些斯坦國。
11:59
These countries' borders originate from Stalin's decrees.
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這些國家的邊界線,源自史達林頒布的法令,
12:02
He purposely did not want these countries to make sense.
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他刻意將這些國家分割得七零八落,
12:06
He wanted ethnicities to mingle
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他想讓不同種族混合
12:08
in ways that would allow him to divide and rule.
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這樣分裂就容易統治。
12:10
Fortunately for them, most of their oil and gas resources
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幸好這些國家大多數的石油和天然氣資源
12:13
were discovered after the Soviet Union collapsed.
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在蘇聯瓦解後才被發現。
12:16
Now I know some of you may be thinking, "Oil, oil, oil.
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現在我知道你們可能都在想: "油、油、油"
12:19
Why is it all he's talking about is oil?"
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他為什麼一直講油?"
12:21
Well, there is a big difference in the way we used to talk about oil
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注意,以前我們討論石油的方式
12:24
and the way we're talking about it now.
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和現在我們所討論的方式是大不相同的。
12:26
Before it was, how do we control their oil?
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以前是: 我們要怎麼控制他們的油?
12:29
Now it's their oil for their own purposes.
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現在是他們的油,他們自己要用,
12:31
And I assure you it's every bit as important to them
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而且我打包票這對他們
12:33
as it might have been to colonizers and imperialists.
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和對當初的殖民、帝國主義者一樣重要。
12:37
Here are just some of the pipeline projections
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這裡是一些計劃中的
12:39
and possibilities and scenarios
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輸油管道和一些可能的情況
12:41
and routes that are being mapped out for the next several decades.
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以及接下來幾十年可能的計畫 ,
12:44
A great deal of them.
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這有許多。
12:46
For a number of countries in this part of the world,
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對於這個區域上許多國家,
12:48
having pipelines is the ticket to becoming part of the global economy
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管線是個能參與世界經濟體的門票
12:51
and for having some meaning
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也是讓自己有存在感
12:53
besides the borders that they are not loyal to themselves.
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在連它們自己都無法認同的邊界以外。
12:55
Just take Azerbaijan.
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看看亞塞拜然的例子
12:58
Azerbaijan was a forgotten corner of the Caucuses,
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亞塞拜然位於高加索一個被遺忘的角落
13:00
but now with the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline into Turkey,
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但是隨著通往土耳其的Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan輸油管道,
13:04
it has rebranded itself as the frontier of the west.
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它已重新將自己定義為西方的前哨。
13:08
Then there is Turkmenistan, which most people think of
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再來是土庫曼(斯坦),大多數人對這地方的印象是
13:11
as a frozen basket case.
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天寒地凍毫無希望之地。
13:13
But now it's contributing gas across the Caspian Sea
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但是現在它能穿越裡海,將天然氣
13:16
to provide for Europe,
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輸往歐洲,
13:18
and even a potentially Turkmen-
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甚至有可能建造土庫曼-
13:20
Afghan-Pakistan-India pipeline as well.
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阿富汗-巴基斯坦-印度輸油管道。
13:24
Then there is Kazakhstan, which didn't even have a name before.
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還有哈薩克(斯坦),之前甚至沒有一個正式的名字。
13:26
It was more considered South Siberia during the Soviet Union.
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在蘇聯時期它被稱作南西伯利亞。
13:30
Today most people recognize Kazakhstan
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而現在大部分人都認為哈薩克是一個
13:32
as an emerging geopolitical player. Why?
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新興的地緣政治角色。為什麼?
13:34
Because it has shrewdly designed pipelines to flow across the Caspian,
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因為它機智地設計了穿越裡海的輸油管道,
13:38
north through Russia, and even east to China.
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往北進入俄羅斯,甚至向西進入中國。
13:42
More pipelines means more silk roads, instead of the Great Game.
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管道越多,意味著“絲綢之路”越多,而不再是(英俄19世紀)中亞大博弈。
13:46
The Great Game connotes dominance of one over the other.
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大博弈是只被另一國家管轄,
13:50
Silk road connotes independence and mutual trust.
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而絲綢之路代表著獨立和相互的信任。
13:53
The more pipelines we have, the more silk roads we'll have,
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我們有更多管線,我們就會有更多絲路,
13:56
and the less of a dominant Great Game competition
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有一個較不被他人主導的大博弈競賽
13:59
we'll have in the 21st century.
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這是我們的二十一世紀。
14:02
Now let's look at the only part of the world that really has brought down its borders,
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現在我們看看全世界唯一去除邊界的地區,
14:05
and how that has enhanced its strength.
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和它如何因此而更加強健,
14:07
And that is, of course, Europe.
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這就是歐洲。
14:10
The European Union began as just the coal and steel community of six countries,
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歐洲聯盟剛開始只是六個國家間的煤鋼共同體,
14:13
and their main purpose was really to keep the rehabilitation of Germany
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主要的目的只是為了讓德國的復甦
14:17
to happen in a peaceful way.
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能以和平的方式進行。
14:19
But then eventually it grew into 12 countries,
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不過它見見形成十二個國家,
14:23
and those are the 12 stars on the European flag.
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和在歐盟旗幟上的十二顆星星。
14:25
The E.U. also became a currency block,
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歐盟同時也成為一個貨幣體
14:27
and is now the most powerful trade block in the entire world.
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而現在是整個世界最強大的貿易體。
14:31
On average, the E.U. has grown by one country per year
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自從冷戰結束後,歐盟平均
14:34
since the end of the Cold War.
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每年多一個國家,
14:36
In fact most of that happened on just one day.
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其實所有的事幾乎在一夕間發生:
14:39
In 2004, 15 new countries joined the E.U.
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2004年,十五個國家加入了歐盟,
14:41
and now you have what most people consider
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而現在,我們有可以說是
14:44
a zone of peace spanning 27 countries
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一個和平區,跨27國、
14:46
and 450 million people.
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和4.5億人口。
14:49
So what is next? What is the future of the European Union?
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所以接下來會怎麼樣? 歐盟的未來是甚麼?
14:53
Well in light blue, you see the zones
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在你看到的淺藍色的區域
14:55
or the regions that are at least two-thirds
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至少三分之二以上
14:57
or more dependent on the European Union
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是必須仰賴歐盟
14:59
for trade and investment.
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以進行貿易和投資。
15:01
What does that tell us? Trade and investment tell us
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這告訴我們甚麼? 貿易和投資告訴我們
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that Europe is putting its money where its mouth is.
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歐洲並不是在紙上談兵,
15:07
Even if these regions aren't part of the E.U.,
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即使這些區域並不是歐盟的一部分,
15:09
they are becoming part of its sphere of influence.
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它們漸漸的成為其影響環的一部分。
15:11
Just take the Balkans. Croatia, Serbia
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看看巴爾幹半島:克羅埃西亞、塞爾維亞、
15:14
Bosnia, they're not members of the E.U. yet.
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波斯尼亞 ,他們還不是歐盟的成員,
15:16
But you can get on a German ICE train
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但是你如果登上一輛德國ICE火車
15:19
and make it almost to Albania.
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你幾乎可以到阿爾巴尼亞。
15:21
In Bosnia you use the Euro currency already,
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在波斯尼亞,你可以使用歐元,
15:24
and that's the only currency they're probably ever going to have.
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也許這將是他們從此以後的唯一貨幣。
15:27
So, looking at other parts of Europe's periphery, such as North Africa.
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讓我們看一下歐洲的外圍,例如北非。
15:31
On average, every year or two,
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平均每年或者每兩年,
15:33
a new oil or gas pipeline opens up under the Mediterranean,
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會有一條新的石油或者天然氣運輸管道穿越地中海,
15:36
connecting North Africa to Europe.
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將北非與歐洲連接到一起。
15:39
That not only helps Europe diminish its reliance
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這不僅僅幫助歐洲減少了
15:41
on Russia for energy,
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對俄羅斯在能源上的依賴,
15:43
but if you travel to North Africa today, you'll hear more and more people saying
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而且如果你今天去北非旅遊,你會聽到越來越多的人
15:46
that they don't really think of their region as the Middle East.
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說他們並不屬於中東地區。
15:49
So in other words, I believe that President Sarkozy of France
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也就是說,我非常認同法國總統薩科齊
15:52
is right when he talks about a Mediterranean union.
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對於地中海聯盟的觀點。
15:56
Now let's look at Turkey and the Caucasus.
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再來看一下土耳其,和高加索國家。
15:59
I mentioned Azerbaijan before.
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我之前提到過亞塞拜然,
16:01
That corridor of Turkey and the Caucasus
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土耳其和高加索地區的那條走廊
16:03
has become the conduit for 20 percent
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已經成為歐洲
16:05
of Europe's energy supply.
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20%能源供應的通道。
16:07
So does Turkey really have to be a member of the European Union?
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所以土耳其非得成為歐盟成員國嗎?
16:10
I don't think it does. I think it's already part of
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我認為不然。我認為它已經是
16:12
a Euro-Turkish superpower.
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歐洲-土耳其這個結構中的一個超級力量了。
16:15
So what's next? Where are we going to see borders change
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那麼接下來呢?我們會在哪些地方看到邊界線的改變
16:18
and new countries born?
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以及新國家的誕生?
16:20
Well, South Central Asia, South West Asia
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南亞中心地區,西南亞地區
16:22
is a very good place to start.
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是一個很有可能的地方。
16:24
Eight years after the U.S. invaded Afghanistan
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在美國入侵阿富汗8年之後
16:26
there is still a tremendous amount of instability.
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這個地區仍然充滿了巨大的不穩定性。
16:28
Pakistan and Afghanistan are still so fragile
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巴基斯坦和阿富汗仍然如此脆弱
16:31
that neither of them have dealt constructively
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以至於他們都沒有實質性地
16:33
with the problem of Pashtun nationalism.
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處理普什圖人的民族主義問題。
16:36
This is the flag that flies in the minds
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這是存在於2000萬普什圖人
16:38
of 20 million Pashtuns
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心目中的國旗,
16:40
who live on both sides of the Afghan and Pakistan border.
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他們住在阿富汗和巴基斯坦邊界線的兩邊。
16:43
Let's not neglect the insurgency just to the south,
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不要忘了在南部還有動亂。
16:46
Balochistan. Two weeks ago,
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在俾路支。兩週前,
16:48
Balochi rebels attacked a Pakistani military garrison,
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俾路支叛軍攻擊了巴基斯坦的一個軍事守備部隊,
16:51
and this was the flag that they raised over it.
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這就是他們在攻擊時舉起的旗幟。
16:54
The post-colonial entropy
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後殖民時期國家的解體
16:56
that is happening around the world is accelerating,
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在全球發生並在加速。
16:58
and I expect more such changes to occur in the map
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我預期地圖上如此的改變
17:01
as the states fragment.
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會隨著這些國家的分解而越來越多。
17:03
Of course, we can't forget Africa.
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當然我們無法忘記非洲,
17:05
53 countries, and by far the most number
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五十三個國家,和最多
17:07
of suspiciously straight lines on the map.
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地圖上相當可疑的直線
17:10
If we were to look at all of Africa
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如果我們看看整個非洲
17:12
we could most certainly acknowledge far more,
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我們肯定能認識到那邊有(比地圖上國家)更多的
17:15
tribal divisions and so forth.
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部落、族群分野。
17:17
But let's just look at Sudan, the second-largest country in Africa.
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我們來看看蘇丹,非洲第二大國家:
17:21
It has three ongoing civil wars,
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它有三個正在進行中的內戰,
17:23
the genocide in Darfur, which you all know about,
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達佛(Darfur)的種族屠殺,這你們肯定聽過,
17:26
the civil war in the east of the country,
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還有國家東部的內戰,
17:28
and south Sudan.
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和南蘇丹。
17:30
South Sudan is going to be having a referendum in 2011
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南蘇丹在2011年將會舉辦一個公投,
17:33
in which it is very likely to vote itself independence.
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很有可能會選擇讓自己獨立。
17:36
Now let's go up to the Arctic Circle.
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我們現在來看看極圈:
17:40
There is a great race on for energy resources
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這裡正上演著一場對北極海床底下
17:42
under the Arctic seabed.
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能源的爭奪戰。
17:44
Who will win? Canada? Russia? The United States?
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誰會勝利?加拿大?俄羅斯?還是美國?
17:46
Actually Greenland.
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事實上格陵蘭島將是贏家。
17:48
Several weeks ago Greenland's [60,000] people
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數週前,格陵蘭島的6萬居民投票表決,
17:51
voted themselves self-governance rights
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取得了從丹麥獨立
17:53
from Denmark.
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的自治權。
17:55
So Denmark is about to get a whole lot smaller.
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因而丹麥將會縮小很多。
17:58
What is the lesson from all of this?
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這裡得出的教訓是什麼呢?
18:00
Geopolitics is a very unsentimental discipline.
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地緣政治是一個非常冷酷的學科。
18:04
It's constantly morphing and changing the world,
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它不斷地改變世界,
18:06
like climate change.
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就如氣候變化。
18:08
And like our relationship with the ecosystem
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正如我們與生態系統的關係一樣,
18:10
we're always searching for equilibrium
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我們總在尋找一種
18:12
in how we divide ourselves across the planet.
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我們如何在這星球上分布的平衡。
18:15
Now we fear changes on the map.
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我們害怕地圖上的這些改變。
18:17
We fear civil wars, death tolls,
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我們害怕戰爭、死亡,
18:19
having to learn the names of new countries.
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以及需要去學習新的國家的名字等。
18:22
But I believe that the inertia of the existing borders that we have today
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但我相信我們對當下存在的邊境所存有的無力感,
18:25
is far worse and far more violent.
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是更糟糕、更暴力的。
18:27
The question is how do we change those borders,
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問題是我們該如何去改變這些邊界,
18:29
and what lines do we focus on?
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和我們應專注在哪些線上?
18:31
I believe we focus on the lines that cross borders,
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我相信我們應專注在跨國界的線,
18:33
the infrastructure lines.
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那些基礎建設線路,
18:35
Then we'll wind up with the world we want, a borderless one.
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這樣我們才可以擁有一個我們想要的世界,一個沒有邊界的世界。
18:38
Thank you.
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謝謝。
18:40
(Applause)
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