The revolutionary power of diverse thought | Elif Shafak

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翻译人员: chunhua zhang 校对人员: Wilde Luo
00:12
"Can you taste words?"
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“你能品尝词语的味道吗?”
00:15
It was a question that caught me by surprise.
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这是一个让我措手不及的问题
00:18
This summer, I was giving a talk at a literary festival,
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这个夏天,我在一个文学盛会上演讲
00:22
and afterwards, as I was signing books,
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之后在签售我的书时
00:24
a teenage girl came with her friend,
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一个小女孩和她的朋友走了过来
00:27
and this is what she asked me.
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问了我上述的问题
00:29
I told her that some people experience an overlap in their senses
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我告诉她有些人体会到感观上的重叠
00:34
so that they could hear colors
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所以他们能听到颜色
00:36
or see sounds,
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或看到声音
00:37
and many writers were fascinated by this subject, myself included.
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而很多作家也为此痴迷,也包括我自己
00:43
But she cut me off, a bit impatiently, and said, "Yeah, I know all of that.
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但是她有点不耐烦地打断了我, 并说到:“是的,我都知道。
00:48
It's called synesthesia. We learned it at school.
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这叫做联觉,我们在学校学过。
00:51
But my mom is reading your book,
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但是我妈妈正在读你的书,
00:53
and she says there's lots of food and ingredients
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她说书上有很多食物和佐料,
00:57
and a long dinner scene in it.
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以及一个长长的晚餐场景。
00:59
She gets hungry at every page.
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每一页都看得她很饥饿。
01:01
So I was thinking,
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所以我在想,
01:02
how come you don't get hungry when you write?
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你在写作的时候怎么会不饿呢?
01:05
And I thought maybe, maybe you could taste words.
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我想也许,也许你可以品尝这些词语。
01:08
Does it make sense?"
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有道理吗?“
01:10
And, actually, it did make sense,
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事实上,它是合理的,
01:12
because ever since my childhood,
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因为从我小的时候
01:15
each letter in the alphabet has a different color,
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字母表上的每个字母都有不同的颜色
01:18
and colors bring me flavors.
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而这些颜色带给我味道
01:21
So for instance, the color purple is quite pungent, almost perfumed,
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例如,紫色是很辛辣浓郁的,几乎香气逼人
01:26
and any words that I associate with purple
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任何能让我联想到紫色的词语
01:30
taste the same way,
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都是相同的味道
01:32
such as "sunset" -- a very spicy word.
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就像 ”日落“ ——一个非常辛辣的词语
01:37
But I was worried that if I tell all of this to the teenager,
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但是我担心如果我将 这些都说给这个女孩听
01:41
it might sound either too abstract
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就会显得要么太抽象了
01:44
or perhaps too weird,
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或者要么太奇怪了
01:46
and there wasn't enough time anyhow,
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而且当时也没有太多时间
01:48
because people were waiting in the queue,
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因为人们还在排队等候
01:51
so it suddenly felt like what I was trying to convey
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所以突然间觉得,我想尝试去表达的东西
01:55
was more complicated and detailed
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要比这个环境允许我能说的
01:58
than what the circumstances allowed me to say.
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要更加复杂和详细
02:03
And I did what I usually do in similar situations:
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于是我就像往常一样
02:07
I stammered, I shut down, and I stopped talking.
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我结巴起来了,然后闭嘴停止谈论
02:11
I stopped talking because the truth was complicated,
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我停止谈论是因为事实太复杂了
02:15
even though I knew, deep within,
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即使我深深地知道
02:17
that one should never, ever remain silent for fear of complexity.
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人们永不应该因为它太复杂了而感到 害怕,继而保持沉默
02:24
So I want to start my talk today
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所以今天,我想用在那天 我没能作出的回答
02:26
with the answer that I was not able to give on that day.
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作为今天的演讲的引子
02:29
Yes, I can taste words --
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是的,我能品尝词语——
02:32
sometimes, that is, not always,
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有时能,有时不能
02:34
and happy words have a different flavor than sad words.
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快乐的词语跟悲伤的词语味道不同
02:38
I like to explore: What does the word "creativity" taste like,
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我喜欢去探索:“创造力”这个词是什么味道
02:42
or "equality,"
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又或者 “平等”
02:45
"love," "revolution?"
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“爱”、“革命” 呢?
02:47
And what about "motherland?"
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以及 “祖国” 呢?
02:50
These days, it's particularly this last word that troubles me.
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这些日子,这最后一个词语尤其困扰着我
02:54
It leaves a sweet taste on my tongue,
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它在我的舌头上留下了甘甜
02:57
like cinnamon, a bit of rose water
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就像是肉桂、一点玫瑰水
03:00
and golden apples.
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和金苹果
03:01
But underneath, there's a sharp tang,
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但是在深处,又有一种强烈的味道
03:05
like nettles and dandelion.
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像是荨麻和薄公英
03:07
The taste of my motherland, Turkey,
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我的祖国,土耳其的味道
03:11
is a mixture of sweet and bitter.
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是混合着甜和苦的
03:15
And the reason why I'm telling you this
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我之所以告诉你们这些,
03:17
is because I think there's more and more people
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是因为我想今天这个世界上
03:19
all around the world today
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有越来越多的人
03:21
who have similarly mixed emotions
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对他们的故土
03:24
about the lands they come from.
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怀有这种相似的混合情感
03:26
We love our native countries, yeah?
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我们热爱自己的祖国,对吧?
03:29
How can we not?
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我们怎能不爱?
03:30
We feel attached to the people, the culture, the land, the food.
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我们感觉自己与这里的人民、 文化、土地和食物紧密相连
03:35
And yet at the same time,
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然而与此同时
03:36
we feel increasingly frustrated by its politics and politicians,
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我们对这里的政治和政客感到越来越失望
03:42
sometimes to the point of despair or hurt or anger.
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有时甚至感到绝望、受伤和愤怒
03:47
I want to talk about emotions
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我想谈谈情感,
03:50
and the need to boost our emotional intelligence.
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以及提升我们的情商的必要性
03:53
I think it's a pity
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我感到很遗憾的是
03:54
that mainstream political theory pays very little attention to emotions.
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主流的政治理论甚少关注情感
04:01
Oftentimes, analysts and experts are so busy with data and metrics
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通常,分析师和专家都忙于关注 数据和度量指标
04:06
that they seem to forget those things in life
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以至于似乎忘了,有些东西 是很难被测量的
04:09
that are difficult to measure
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04:11
and perhaps impossible to cluster under statistical models.
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并且也许不可能用统计学模型来归类
04:16
But I think this is a mistake, for two main reasons.
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我认为有两个主要的原由 可以说明这是错误的
04:20
Firstly, because we are emotional beings.
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首先,我们是富有情感的动物
04:23
As human beings, I think we all are like that.
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作为人类,我想我们都是如此
04:26
But secondly, and this is new,
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第二点,是一个新观点
04:29
we have entered a new stage in world history
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我们已经进入一个历史新阶段
04:32
in which collective sentiments guide and misguide politics
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在这其中,众人的意见和观点比起以往 任何时候都能左右政治
04:38
more than ever before.
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04:41
And through social media and social networking,
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通过社交媒体和社交网络
04:44
these sentiments are further amplified,
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这些观点被进一步地放大
04:47
polarized, and they travel around the world quite fast.
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被极端化,并且被快速传播到各地
04:52
Ours is the age of anxiety, anger,
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我们还生活在一个 焦虑、愤怒、怀疑、怨恨
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distrust, resentment
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以及我认为的,充满恐惧的时代
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and, I think, lots of fear.
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05:00
But here's the thing:
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但是事情是这样的:
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even though there's plenty of research about economic factors,
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虽然已经有很多关于经济要素的研究
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there's relatively few studies about emotional factors.
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但是关于情感要素的研究还是少之又少
05:12
Why is it that we underestimate feelings and perceptions?
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我们为什么会低估情感和认知呢?
05:17
I think it's going to be one of our biggest intellectual challenges,
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我想这将成为我们最大的智力挑战之一
05:21
because our political systems are replete with emotions.
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因为我们的政治制度里面充满了情感
05:26
In country after country,
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在一个又一个的国家里
05:28
we have seen illiberal politicians exploiting these emotions.
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我们看到偏执的政客们利用这些情感
05:33
And yet within the academia and among the intelligentsia,
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但是在学术界和知识界
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we are yet to take emotions seriously.
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我们还没有很认真地对待情感
05:41
I think we should.
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我觉得我们应该认真对待
05:42
And just like we should focus on economic inequality worldwide,
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正如我们应当关注全球性的 经济不平等一样
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we need to pay more attention to emotional and cognitive gaps worldwide
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我们需要更加关注全球性的 情感和认知鸿沟
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and how to bridge these gaps,
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并且想想如何消除这些鸿沟
05:54
because they do matter.
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因为它们的确重要
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Years ago, when I was still living in Istanbul,
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几年前,当我还住在伊斯坦布尔的时候
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an American scholar working on women writers in the Middle East
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一个研究中东女性作家的美国学者
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came to see me.
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跑过来拜访我
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And at some point in our exchange, she said,
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然后在我们交流中的某一刻,她说,
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"I understand why you're a feminist,
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“我明白你为什么是一个女权主义者,
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because, you know, you live in Turkey."
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因为,很显然的,你生活在土耳其。”
06:14
And I said to her,
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然后我对她说
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"I don't understand why you're not a feminist,
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“我不明白你为什么不是一个女权主义者,
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because, you know, you live in America."
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因为,也很显然,你生活在美国。”
06:20
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
06:22
(Applause)
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(掌声)
06:25
And she laughed.
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然后她笑了
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She took it as a joke,
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她将它当成了一个笑话
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and the moment passed.
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就一笑而过了
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
06:33
But the way she had divided the world into two imaginary camps,
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但是她那种将世界分成两个假想的阵营
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into two opposite camps --
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两个对立的阵营的方式——
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it bothered me and it stayed with me.
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困扰了我并一直留在我的脑海
06:43
According to this imaginary map,
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根据这张假想的地图
06:45
some parts of the world were liquid countries.
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这个世界上某些部分都是 “液态” 的国家
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They were like choppy waters not yet settled.
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它们就像波浪起伏的水面, 还没有平静下来
06:52
Some other parts of the world, namely the West,
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而这个世界的其它部分,也就是西方国家
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were solid, safe and stable.
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它们是固态、安全和稳定的
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So it was the liquid lands that needed feminism
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所以这液态的土地上需要女权主义
07:02
and activism and human rights,
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行动主义和人权,
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and those of us who were unfortunate enough
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而我们这些来自这些地方的 人们,非常不幸地
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to come from such places
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07:09
had to keep struggling for these most essential values.
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需要继续为这些基本价值观去斗争
07:13
But there was hope.
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但是希望仍在
07:15
Since history moved forward,
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既然历史是向前发展的,
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even the most unsteady lands would someday catch up.
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即使是最不稳定的土地 也总有一天会变牢固
07:21
And meanwhile, the citizens of solid lands
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同时,固态的土地上的公民
07:24
could take comfort in the progress of history
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也可以在历史的前进和 自由秩序的胜利中得到安慰
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and in the triumph of the liberal order.
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07:31
They could support the struggles of other people elsewhere,
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他们可以支持其他地方的人们的斗争
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but they themselves did not have to struggle
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但他们自己已经不需要再去 为基本的民主为斗争了
07:39
for the basics of democracy anymore,
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07:42
because they were beyond that stage.
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因为他们已经越过那个阶段了
07:46
I think in the year 2016,
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我想,在 2016 年
07:48
this hierarchical geography was shattered to pieces.
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这种划分地域等级的观点已经破碎
07:54
Our world no longer follows this dualistic pattern
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我们的世界不再遵循这种 存在于这个学者脑海中的二元模式了
07:58
in the scholar's mind, if it ever did.
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08:01
Now we know that history does not necessarily move forward.
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现在我们知道历史未必就是前进的
08:06
Sometimes it draws circles,
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有时它会原地打转
08:08
even slides backwards,
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甚至倒退
08:10
and that generations can make the same mistakes
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一代又一代的人们都可能犯下 他们祖先曾经犯过的错误
08:13
that their great-grandfathers had made.
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08:16
And now we know that there's no such thing
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现在我们知道,并没有所谓的 固态国家和与之相对的液态国家
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as solid countries versus liquid countries.
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08:22
In fact, we are all living in liquid times,
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事实上,我们都生活在液态的时代
08:26
just like the late Zygmunt Bauman told us.
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就像已故的齐格蒙特 · 鲍曼 告诉我们的那样
08:30
And Bauman had another definition for our age.
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而鲍曼对我们的时代有另外一个定义
08:33
He used to say we are all going to be walking on moving sands.
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他曾经说过我们都将行走在流沙上
08:40
And if that's the case, I think,
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如果真是这样的话,我想
08:42
it should concern us women more than men,
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它对我们女人的影响要大于男人
08:45
because when societies slide backwards into authoritarianism,
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因为当社会倒退到威权主义
08:49
nationalism or religious fanaticism,
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民族主义或宗教狂热主义时
08:52
women have much more to lose.
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女人失去的要更多
08:55
That is why this needs to be a vital moment,
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这也就是,为什么现在是一个关键时刻, 不仅仅是对全球的行动主义而言
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not only for global activism,
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09:00
but in my opinion, for global sisterhood as well.
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而且在我看来,对全球的妇女团体也是如此
09:04
(Applause)
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(掌声)
09:12
But I want to make a little confession before I go any further.
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但是我想在进一步阐述之前先坦白一点: 直到最近,每当参加国际会议或庆祝活动
09:15
Until recently, whenever I took part in an international conference or festival,
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09:21
I would be usually one of the more depressed speakers.
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通常我都是比较沮丧的发言者之一
09:25
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
09:26
Having seen how our dreams of democracy and how our dreams of coexistence
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眼看着我们的民主梦和共存梦如何逐步地、 以一种令人困惑的速度在土耳其破碎
09:32
were crushed in Turkey,
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09:34
both gradually but also with a bewildering speed,
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09:38
over the years I've felt quite demoralized.
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这些年来我感到非常的灰心丧气
09:41
And at these festivals there would be some other gloomy writers,
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在这些庆祝活动里也还有 其他的一些沮丧的作家
09:45
and they would come from places such as Egypt, Nigeria, Pakistan,
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他们可能来自埃及、尼日利亚、巴基斯坦、
09:50
Bangladesh, Philippines, China, Venezuela, Russia.
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孟加拉国、菲律宾、中国、委内瑞拉、俄罗斯
09:55
And we would smile at each other in sympathy,
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this camaraderie of the doomed.
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这种 “同是天涯沦落人” 之感
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(Laughter)
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And you could call us WADWIC:
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Worried and Depressed Writers International Club.
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“担心和忧虑的国际性作家俱乐部” 的缩写
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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But then things began to change,
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然后事情开始转变
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and suddenly our club became more popular,
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突然间我们的俱乐部变得越来越流行了
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and we started to have new members.
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我们开始拥有新成员了
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I remember --
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我记得——
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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I remember Greek writers and poets joined first, came on board.
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我记得希腊作家和诗人最先加入进来
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And then writers from Hungary and Poland,
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然后是来自匈牙利和波兰的作家
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and then, interestingly, writers from Austria, the Netherlands, France,
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再之后,有趣的是, 奥地利、荷兰和法国的作家也来了
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and then writers from the UK, where I live and where I call my home,
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然后英国的作家加入了; 我在那生活,并称之为家
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and then writers from the USA.
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再就是来自美国的作家
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Suddenly, there were more of us
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突然间,我们中有越来越多的人
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feeling worried about the fate of our nations
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为我们国家的命运 和世界的未来感到担忧
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and the future of the world.
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And maybe there were more of us now
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也许我们中有越来越多的人
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feeling like strangers in our own motherlands.
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身在自己的祖国 却觉得自己像是陌生人
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And then this bizarre thing happened.
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然后很古怪的事情发生了
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Those of us who used to be very depressed for a long time,
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我们当中那些曾经忧虑了很长时间的人
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we started to feel less depressed,
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开始感到没那么忧虑了
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whereas the newcomers, they were so not used to feeling this way
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然而这些新成员, 他们对这种感受十分不适应
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that they were now even more depressed.
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现在甚至变得更加忧虑了
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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So you could see writers from Bangladesh or Turkey or Egypt
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所以你可以看到来自 孟加拉国、土耳其或埃及的作家
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trying to console their colleagues
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在试着安慰他们那些来自 脱欧后的英国或大选后的美国的同行
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from Brexit Britain or from post-election USA.
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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But joking aside,
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但是笑话归笑话,
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I think our world is full of unprecedented challenges,
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我想我们的世界正充满着前所未有的挑战
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and this comes with an emotional backlash,
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而且伴随着强烈的情感碰撞
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because in the face of high-speed change,
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因为在面对高速的变革时
11:42
many people wish to slow down,
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很多人希望能够放慢脚步
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and when there's too much unfamiliarity,
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当面对太多的陌生事物时
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people long for the familiar.
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人们会渴望熟悉的事物
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And when things get too confusing,
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但事情变得太复杂而令人困惑时
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many people crave simplicity.
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很多人渴求简单
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This is a very dangerous crossroads,
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这是一个很危险的十字路口
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because it's exactly where the demagogue enters into the picture.
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因为这正是蛊惑民心的政客 粉墨登场的地方
12:03
The demagogue understands how collective sentiments work
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这些政客知道民意是如何起作用的
12:07
and how he -- it's usually a he -- can benefit from them.
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并且他——通常是男性—— 如何能从中获利
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He tells us that we all belong in our tribes,
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他会跟我们说:大家都属于同一个部落
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and he tells us that we will be safer if we are surrounded by sameness.
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还劝诱道:如果我们周围 都是跟我们一样的人,我们就会更安全
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Demagogues come in all sizes and in all shapes.
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蛊惑人心的政客们形态、外表各异
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This could be the eccentric leader of a marginal political party
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他可能是欧洲某个地方 一个小政党的古怪的领导人
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somewhere in Europe,
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or an Islamist extremist imam preaching dogma and hatred,
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或者是一个宣扬教条和 仇恨的极端伊斯兰教阿訇
12:35
or it could be a white supremacist Nazi-admiring orator somewhere else.
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又或者是一个崇拜纳粹的 白人至上主义者演说家
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All these figures, at first glance -- they seem disconnected.
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所有这些人,乍看之下—— 似乎没有什么联系
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But I think they feed each other,
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但是我想他们是互为依靠的
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and they need each other.
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他们彼此需要
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And all around the world,
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在全世界来看
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when we look at how demagogues talk and how they inspire movements,
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当我们观察这些政客如何 交谈和鼓励那些运动时
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I think they have one unmistakable quality in common:
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我想他们都有一个明显的特征:
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they strongly, strongly dislike plurality.
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他们非常非常地厌恶多元化
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They cannot deal with multiplicity.
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他们不能处理好多样性问题
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Adorno used to say,
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阿多诺曾经说过,
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"Intolerance of ambiguity is the sign of an authoritarian personality."
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“对歧义的不包容是专制型人格的标志。”
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But I ask myself:
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但是我问自己:
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What if that same sign,
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如果这样的标志,
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that same intolerance of ambiguity --
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这样的对歧义的不包容性——
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what if it's the mark of our times, of the age we're living in?
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它也同样是我们所生活的 这个时代的标志怎么办?
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Because wherever I look, I see nuances withering away.
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因为我看到不管是在哪里, 细微的差别都在渐渐消失
13:34
On TV shows, we have one anti-something speaker
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在电视节目里,我们会看到
反对某事的与拥护此事的发言者 会被安排到对立位置
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situated against a pro-something speaker.
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13:41
Yeah? It's good ratings.
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对吧?而且收视率还不错
13:43
It's even better if they shout at each other.
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如果他们冲着彼此大叫那就更好了
13:45
Even in academia, where our intellect is supposed to be nourished,
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即便是在学术界,这个我们获取 智慧滋养的地方
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you see one atheist scholar competing with a firmly theist scholar,
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你可以看到无神论学者跟 坚定的有神论学者较劲,
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but it's not a real intellectual exchange,
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但是这不是真正的学术交流
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because it's a clash between two certainties.
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因为这是两种 “必然” 之间的冲突
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I think binary oppositions are everywhere.
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我想二元对立是无处不在的
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So slowly and systematically,
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所以慢慢地、成体系地
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we are being denied the right to be complex.
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我们失去了包容复杂性、多样性的权利
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Istanbul, Berlin, Nice, Paris, Brussels,
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从伊斯坦布尔、柏林、尼斯、巴黎、布鲁塞尔
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Dhaka, Baghdad, Barcelona:
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达卡、巴格达、巴塞罗那等国家:
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we have seen one horrible terror attack after another.
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我们看到了一次又一次的恐怖袭击
14:26
And when you express your sorrow, and when you react against the cruelty,
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当你表达悲伤、反抗这种残暴时
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you get all kinds of reactions,
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你会得在社交媒体上
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messages on social media.
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看到各种反应和信息
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But one of them is quite disturbing,
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其中的一个反应很令人不安:
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only because it's so widespread.
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因为它如此普遍
14:38
They say, "Why do you feel sorry for them?
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他们说,“为什么你会为他们感到难过?
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Why do you feel sorry for them?
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为什么你会为他们感到难过?
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Why don't you feel sorry for civilians in Yemen
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为什么你不为也门或者 叙利亚的民众感到难过?”
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or civilians in Syria?"
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And I think the people who write such messages
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我想,写下这种信息的人
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do not understand
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他不明白
14:55
that we can feel sorry for and stand in solidarity with
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我们会为所有的恐怖主义和暴力活动的 受害者感到难过并坚定地站在他们一边
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victims of terrorism and violence in the Middle East, in Europe,
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不管他们是来自中东、欧洲、 亚洲还是美洲,都平等相待
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in Asia, in America, wherever, everywhere,
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equally and simultaneously.
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15:11
They don't seem to understand that we don't have to pick one pain
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他们似乎不明白为什么
我们不去挑选出哪一项痛苦 或者哪一个难区最为惨烈
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and one place over all others.
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15:18
But I think this is what tribalism does to us.
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但是我想这就是部落主义对我们的影响
15:22
It shrinks our minds, for sure,
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它将我们的思想和灵魂萎缩到一定的程度, 使我们对其他人的痛苦变得麻木
15:24
but it also shrinks our hearts,
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to such an extent that we become numb to the suffering of other people.
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15:33
And the sad truth is, we weren't always like this.
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一个悲伤的事实是, 我们以前不总是这样的
15:36
I had a children's book out in Turkey,
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我在土耳其出版过一本少儿读物
15:40
and when the book was published, I did lots of events.
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当这本书出版后,我举行了很多活动
15:43
I went to many primary schools,
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我走访很多小学
15:45
which gave me a chance to observe younger kids in Turkey.
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这也就给了我一个观察 土耳其的小孩子的机会
15:49
And it was always amazing to see how much empathy, imagination
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我总是很吃惊于他们表现出来的 同情心、想像力和敢作敢为
15:53
and chutzpah they have.
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15:55
These children are much more inclined to become global citizens
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比起成为民族主义者,这些孩子 在那时更倾向成为世界公民
15:59
than nationalists at that age.
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16:02
And it's wonderful to see, when you ask them,
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很奇妙的是, 如果问他们的志向
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so many of them want to be poets and writers,
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他们中的很多人都回答说 想要成为诗人和作家
16:07
and girls are just as confident as boys,
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并且女孩子也像男孩子一样的自信, 甚至信心更足
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if not even more.
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16:12
But then I would go to high schools,
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然后我又去了中学
16:14
and everything has changed.
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发现所有的东西都变了
16:16
Now nobody wants to be a writer anymore,
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没有人再想成为作家了
16:18
now nobody wants to be a novelist anymore,
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也没有人想成为小说家
16:21
and girls have become timid,
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女孩子变得羞怯
16:24
they are cautious, guarded,
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她们很谨慎、有防备心
16:26
reluctant to speak up in the public space,
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不愿意在公共场合发言
16:29
because we have taught them --
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因为 “我们” 教会了她们——
16:31
the family, the school, the society --
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我们的家庭、学校、社会——
16:33
we have taught them to erase their individuality.
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教会了她们抹掉自己的个性
16:37
I think East and West,
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我想不管是东方还是西方
16:39
we are losing multiplicity,
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我们都在失去多样性
16:41
both within our societies and within ourselves.
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包括我们的社会和我们自己本身
16:46
And coming from Turkey, I do know that the loss of diversity
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因为我来自土耳其,所以我知道 失去多样性是一个很大很大的损失
16:50
is a major, major loss.
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16:53
Today, my motherland became the world's biggest jailer
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今天,对记者而言,我的祖国已经 成为了世界上最大的监狱
16:56
for journalists,
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16:57
surpassing even China's sad record.
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已经超过了中国可悲的记录
17:02
And I also believe that what happened over there in Turkey
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而我也相信发生在土耳其的这些事情
17:07
can happen anywhere.
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可以发生在任何别的地方
17:09
It can even happen here.
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甚至是发生在这里
17:11
So just like solid countries was an illusion,
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就像固态国家是一个幻觉一样
17:15
singular identities is also an illusion,
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人特征的单一性也是一个幻觉
17:20
because we all have a multiplicity of voices inside.
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因为我们内心都拥有多种声音
17:25
The Iranian, the Persian poet, Hafiz,
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伊朗的波斯诗人哈菲兹曾经说过
17:29
used to say, "You carry in your soul every ingredient necessary
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“为了将喜悦注入贫乏的生活, 你将所需的原料都放入灵魂中了。
17:34
to turn your existence into joy.
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17:37
All you have to do is to mix those ingredients."
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你所要做的就是 将这些原料搅拌混合。”
17:41
And I think mix we can.
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我想,我们都会混合
17:43
I am an Istanbulite,
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我是一个伊斯坦布尔人
17:46
but I'm also attached to the Balkans,
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但我也属于巴尔干
17:48
the Aegean, the Mediterranean,
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爱琴海、地中海
17:51
the Middle East, the Levant.
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中东、黎凡特
17:53
I am a European by birth, by choice,
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根据我的出生地,我的选择, 我持有的价值观,我是一个欧洲人
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the values that I uphold.
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17:58
I have become a Londoner over the years.
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这些年来我成为了一个伦敦人
18:01
I would like to think of myself as a global soul, as a world citizen,
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我认为自己是一个全球人、世界公民,
18:05
a nomad and an itinerant storyteller.
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一个流浪者以及流动巡回的说书人
18:09
I have multiple attachments, just like all of us do.
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跟所有的人一样,我也有多重依恋。
18:13
And multiple attachments mean multiple stories.
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多重依恋意味着多重故事
18:18
As writers, we always chase stories, of course,
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作为作家,当然, 我们一直在追逐故事
18:23
but I think we are also interested in silences,
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但我想我们也对沉默、不允许谈论的 事物、政治禁忌和文化禁忌感兴趣
18:26
the things we cannot talk about,
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18:28
political taboos, cultural taboos.
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18:31
We're also interested in our own silences.
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我们也对自己的沉默感兴趣
18:35
I have always been very vocal about and written extensively
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我一直对少数族群权利、妇女权利、 LGBT性少数群体的权利问题直言不讳
18:39
about minority rights, women's rights,
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也写了很多相关的文章
18:42
LGBT rights.
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18:44
But as I was thinking about this TED Talk,
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当我在思考这一场 TED 演讲时
18:47
I realized one thing:
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我意识到一件事:
18:49
I have never had the courage to say in a public space
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我从来都没有勇气在公共场合说出 我自己就是一个双性恋者的事实
18:54
that I was bisexual myself,
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18:57
because I so feared the slander
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因为我害怕诽谤、污名、嘲笑 以及仇恨会接踵而来
19:00
and the stigma and the ridicule
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19:03
and the hatred that was sure to follow.
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19:06
But of course, one should never, ever, remain silent
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但是,当然,我们永远不能仅仅 因为对复杂感到畏惧而保持沉默
19:11
for fear of complexity.
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19:14
(Applause)
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(掌声)
19:22
And although I am no stranger to anxieties,
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虽然我已经习惯了焦虑
19:25
and although I am talking here about the power of emotions --
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虽然我在这里谈论着情感的力量——
19:29
I do know the power of emotions --
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我也很清楚地知道情感的力量——
19:31
I have discovered over time
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随着时间的过去,我发现
19:33
that emotions are not limitless.
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情感也不是无限的
19:35
You know? They have a limit.
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你知道吗?它们是有限的
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There comes a moment --
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会有那么一刻——
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it's like a tipping point or a threshold --
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像是一个临界点或者阈值——
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when you get tired of feeling afraid,
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你会厌倦那种害怕的感觉
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when you get tired of feeling anxious.
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你会厌倦那种焦虑的感觉
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And I think not only individuals,
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我想不仅是个人
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but perhaps nations, too, have their own tipping points.
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也许国家也是一样,有属于它们的临界点
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So even stronger than my emotions
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所以,比我的情绪更强大的,是我的感悟: 不仅仅是性别、身份,生命它本身,就是液态的
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is my awareness
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that not only gender, not only identity,
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but life itself is fluid.
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They want to divide us into tribes,
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他们想把我们分离成部落
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but we are connected across borders.
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但我们都跨过边界连在一起
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They preach certainty,
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他们鼓吹天命
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but we know that life has plenty of magic
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但我们知道生命充满了魔力, 充满了不确定性
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and plenty of ambiguity.
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And they like to incite dualities,
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他们喜欢煽动二元性
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but we are far more nuanced than that.
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但我们之间的微妙差异远多于此
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So what can we do?
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所以我们能做什么呢?
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I think we need to go back to the basics,
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我想我们需要回到最基本的的东西
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back to the colors of the alphabet.
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回到每个字母的颜色上
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The Lebanese poet Khalil Gibran used to say,
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黎巴嫩诗人哈利勒 · 纪伯伦曾说过
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"I learned silence from the talkative
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“我从健谈者那里学会了沉默,
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and tolerance from the intolerant
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从狭隘者那里学会了宽容,
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and kindness from the unkind."
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从残忍者那里学会了仁爱。”
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I think it's a great motto for our times.
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我想这是我们这个时代的 一个很好的座右铭
20:47
So from populist demagogues, we will learn
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所以从民粹主义煽动者那里, 我们会学到民主的不可或缺性
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the indispensability of democracy.
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And from isolationists, we will learn the need for global solidarity.
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从孤立主义者那里,我们 会学到全球团结的必要性
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And from tribalists, we will learn the beauty of cosmopolitanism
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从部落主义者那里,我们会学到 世界主义之美以及多样性之美
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and the beauty of diversity.
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As I finish, I want to leave you with one word, or one taste.
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在结束演讲前,我想留给你 一个词,或者说一种味道
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The word "yurt" in Turkish means "motherland."
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“yurt” 这个词在土耳其语中的 意思是 “祖国”
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It means "homeland."
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它也是 “故乡” 的意思
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But interestingly, the word also means
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但有趣的是,这个词还有一个意思是 “一顶游牧部落所使用的帐篷 ”
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"a tent used by nomadic tribes."
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And I like that combination, because it makes me think
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我喜欢这种组合,因为它让我觉得
21:27
homelands do not need to be rooted in one place.
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故乡不一定非要是某个扎根的地方
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They can be portable.
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它们是可以转移的
21:32
We can take them with us everywhere.
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我们可以将它们随身携带到任何地方
21:35
And I think for writers, for storytellers,
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我想对于作家,对于讲述者来说
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at the end of the day,
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在一天结束的时候
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there is one main homeland,
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会来到一个主要的故乡
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and it's called "Storyland."
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称作 “故事乡”
21:44
And the taste of that word
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而这个词的味道,
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is the taste of freedom.
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也是自由的味道
21:49
Thank you.
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谢谢
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(Applause)
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