The biology of gender, from DNA to the brain | Karissa Sanbonmatsu

341,753 views ・ 2019-02-11

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翻译人员: jacks peng 校对人员: Yolanda Zhang
00:14
So what does it mean to be a woman?
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做女人意味着什么?
00:19
We all have XX chromosomes, right?
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我们都有XX染色体,对吧?
00:22
Actually, that's not true.
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事实上,并非如此。
00:25
Some women are mosaics.
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一些女性的性别特征并不清晰。
00:26
They have a mix of chromosome types with X, with XY or with XXX.
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她们的染色体类型是X, XY和XXY的混合体。
00:33
If it's not just about our chromosomes,
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如果不只是与我们的染色体有关,
00:35
then what is being a woman about?
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那么成为女人的要素究竟是什么?
00:38
Being feminine?
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有女人味?
00:40
Getting married?
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嫁人?
00:41
Having kids?
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生小孩?
00:43
You don't have to look far to find fantastic exceptions
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你不需要花很大力气就可以找到
00:47
to these rules,
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这些规则的例外,
00:48
but we all share something that makes us women.
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但我们都有让我们成为女人的东西。
00:53
Maybe that something is in our brains.
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也许这点就在我们的大脑中。
00:57
You might have heard theories from last century
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你也许听过上个世纪的理论,
01:00
about how men are better at math than women
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男人的数学比女人要好,
01:03
because they have bigger brains.
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是因为他们的大脑尺寸更大。
01:05
These theories have been debunked.
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这些理论背后的真相已经被揭穿,
01:07
The average man has a brain about three times smaller
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普通人的脑袋比大象的脑袋
01:10
than the average elephant,
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要小三倍,
01:12
but that doesn't mean
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但并不意味着
01:13
the average man is three times dumber than an elephant ...
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普通人比大象要笨上三倍…
01:16
or does it?
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或者,的确是这样吗?
01:17
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
01:20
There's a new wave of female neuroscientists
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有一波新的女性神经科学家
01:25
that are finding important differences between female and male brains
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正在发现女性和男性的 大脑在神经元连接,
01:29
in neuron connectivity,
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大脑结构,
01:31
in brain structure, in brain activity.
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大脑活动方面的重要区别。
01:34
They're finding that the brain is like a patchwork mosaic --
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他们发现大脑就像拼接的马赛克——
01:38
a mixture.
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是一个混合体。
01:40
Women have mostly female patches and a few male patches.
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女性拥有大量的 女性模块和少量男性模块。
01:44
With all this new data, what does it mean to be a woman?
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有所有这些新数据背后, 做女人到底意味着什么呢?
01:49
This is something that I've been thinking about almost my entire life.
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这几乎是我毕生都在思考的事情。
01:53
When people learn that I'm a woman who happens to be transgender,
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当人们知道我碰巧 是个跨性别者的女人时,
01:57
they always ask,
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他们总会问,
01:59
"How do you know you're a woman?"
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“你怎么知道你是女人?”
02:02
As a scientist, I'm searching for a biological basis of gender.
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作为科学家,我致力于 寻找性别的生物学基础。
02:07
I want to understand what makes me me.
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我想要弄清楚是什么塑造了我。
02:12
New discoveries at the front edge of science
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前沿科学的新发现
02:15
are shedding light on the biomarkers that define gender.
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给定义性别的生物标志带来曙光。
02:19
My colleagues and I in genetics, neuroscience, physiology and psychology,
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我和我的同事在遗传学、神经科学、 生理学和心理学方面都有研究,
02:26
we're trying to figure out exactly how gender works.
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我们试图弄清楚性别是如何起作用的。
02:29
These vastly different fields share a common connection --
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这些截然不同的领域有共同的连接——
02:33
epigenetics.
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实验胚胎学。
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In epigenetics, we're studying how DNA activity
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在实验胚胎学中,我们在研究DNA活动
02:41
can actually radically and permanently change,
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是如何发生根本和永久性变化的,
02:44
even though the sequence stays the same.
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即使序列保持不变。
02:48
DNA is the long, string-like molecule that winds up inside our cells.
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DNA是一种缠绕在 我们细胞内的长链分子。
02:53
There's so much DNA
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DNA的数量十分庞大,
02:54
that it actually gets tangled into these knot-like things --
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以至于它实际上会形成 类似绳结的东西——
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we'll just call them knots.
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我们就叫它们结吧。
03:00
So external factors change how those DNA knots are formed.
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外部因素改变了DNA结的形成。
03:06
You can think of it like this:
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你可以这样想:
03:08
inside our cells, there's different contraptions building things,
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在我们的细胞里,有各种各样的 精巧装置,它们可以制造东西,
连接回路,
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connecting circuits,
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03:15
doing all the things they need to make life happen.
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做所有必要的事情来打造生命体。
03:19
Here's one that's sort of reading the DNA and making RNA.
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这里展示的是读取DNA, 制造RNA的过程。
03:25
And then this one is carrying a huge sac of neurotransmitters
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这个是携带着一个 巨大的神经递质囊
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from one end of the brain cell
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从脑细胞的一端
03:30
to the other.
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到另一端。
03:32
Don't they get hazard pay for this kind of work?
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它们做这种工作 难道不会得到危险津贴吗?
03:34
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
03:36
This one is an entire molecular factory --
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这是一个完整的分子工厂——
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some say it's the secret to life.
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有人说这就是生命的密码。
03:40
It's call the ribosome.
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它叫做核糖体。
03:42
I've been studying this since 2001.
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我从2001年起就在研究它。
03:46
One of the stunning things about our cells
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我们的细胞令人惊叹的一点是,
03:49
is that the components inside them are actually biodegradable.
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细胞内的成分其实是可以生物降解的。
03:53
They dissolve,
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它们会分解,
然后每天都被重建,
03:55
and then they're rebuilt each day,
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03:57
kind of like a traveling carnival
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有点像流动嘉年华,
03:59
where the rides are taken down and then rebuilt every single day.
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游乐设施每天都被拆除和重建。
04:04
A big difference between our cells and the traveling carnival
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我们的细胞和流动嘉年华最大的不同是
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is that in the carnival,
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在嘉年华中,
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there are skilled craftsmen that rebuild the rides each day.
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每天有技术熟练的工匠 来重建这些游乐设施。
04:15
In our cells, there are no such skilled craftsmen,
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在我们的细胞中,没有如此熟练的工匠,
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only dumb builder machines
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只有傻呼呼的建设机器,
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that build whatever's written in the plans,
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计划中写什么就建什么,
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no matter what those plans say.
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不管那个计划说的是什么。
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Those plans are the DNA.
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这些计划就是DNA。
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The instructions for every nook and cranny inside our cells.
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细胞中对每个细节的指示。
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If everything in, say, our brain cells
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如果我们大脑中的细胞
几乎每天都在溶解,
04:35
dissolves almost every day,
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04:37
then how can the brain remember anything past one day?
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那么大脑如何记住超过一天的事情?
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That's where DNA comes in.
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DNA在其中起到了关键的作用。
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DNA is one of the those things that does not dissolve.
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DNA是那些不会溶解的部分之一。
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But for DNA to remember that something happened,
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但要让DNA记得发生的事情,
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it has to change somehow.
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它得多少做点改变。
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We know the change can't be in the sequence;
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我们知道改变不能在序列中;
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if it changed sequence all the time,
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如果它一直在改变序列,
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then we might be growing like, a new ear or a new eyeball every single day.
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那么我们可能每天就会长出 一只新的耳朵,或一个新的眼球。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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So, instead it changes shape,
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所以,它改变了形状,
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and that's where those DNA knots come in.
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形成了DNA结。
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You can think of them like DNA memory.
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你可以把它想成DNA记忆。
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When something big in our life happens,
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当生活中发生大事的时候,
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like a traumatic childhood event,
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比如童年的创伤,
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stress hormones flood our brain.
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应激激素就会充满大脑。
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The stress hormones don't affect the sequence of DNA,
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应激激素不会影响DNA的序列,
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but they do change the shape.
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但它们会改变形状。
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They affect that part of DNA
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它们通过指令分子机器
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with the instructions for molecular machines that reduce stress.
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减少压力的方式来影响DNA这一部分。
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That piece of DNA gets wound up into a knot,
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DNA片段被缠绕成一个结,
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and now the dumb builder machines can't read the plans they need
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现在愚蠢的建造机器无法读取到用来
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to build the machines that reduce stress.
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建造减轻压力的机器的计划。
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That's a mouthful, but it's what's happening on the microscale.
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这听起来有点拗口, 但这就是在微观层面发生的事情。
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On the macroscale, you practically lose the ability to deal with stress,
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从宏观层面上看,你似乎 失去了应对压力的能力,
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and that's bad.
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这很糟糕。
这就是DNA记得 过去发生的事情的方式。
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And that's how DNA can remember what happens in the past.
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05:51
This is what I think was happening to me
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我想这就是当我首次 开始我的性别转变时
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when I first started my gender transition.
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发生在我身上的事情。
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I knew I was a woman on the inside,
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我知道我内心是个女人,
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and I wore women's clothes on the outside,
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外表以女装示人,
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but everyone saw me as a man in a dress.
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但每个人都把我看作 一个穿裙子的男人。
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I felt like no matter how many things I try,
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我感觉不管我做过多少尝试,
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no one would ever really see me as a woman.
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也没人会真正把我当作一个女人。
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In science, your credibility is everything,
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在科学中,你的可信度决定一切。
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and people were snickering in the hallways,
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人们在走廊里窃笑,
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giving me stares,
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盯着我看,
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looks of disgust --
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露出厌恶的表情——
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afraid to be near me.
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害怕靠近我。
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I remember my first big talk after transition.
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我还记得在性别转变后 进行的第一次大型演讲。
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It was in Italy.
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那是在意大利。
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I'd given prestigious talks before,
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我以前做过口碑不错的演讲,
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but this one, I was terrified.
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但这次,我害怕了。
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I looked out into the audience,
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我看着听众,
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and the whispers started --
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然后窃窃私语开始了——
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the stares,
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还有陆续而来的凝视,
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the smirks, the chuckles.
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嘲笑,窃笑。
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To this day, I still have social anxiety around my experience eight years ago.
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直到今天,我仍然因8年前的 经历而怀有社交焦虑。
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I lost hope.
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我失去了希望。
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Don't worry, I've had therapy so I'm OK --
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不要担心,我接受过治疗, 所以我的状态还不错——
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I'm OK now.
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我现在很好。
(笑声)
07:01
(Laughter)
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07:02
(Cheers)
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(欢呼)
07:04
(Applause)
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(鼓掌)
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But I felt enough is enough:
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但我觉得已经够了:
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I'm a scientist,
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我是个科学家,
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I have a doctorate in astrophysics,
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我有天体物理学博士学位,
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I've published in the top journals,
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我在顶级期刊中
与波粒相互作用,空间物理, 核酸生物化学相关的领域
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in wave-particle interactions, space physics,
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nucleic acid biochemistry.
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都发表过论文。
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I've actually been trained to get to the bottom of things, so --
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事实上,我接受过 弄清事情真相的训练,于是——
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
07:25
I went online --
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我上网了——
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(Applause)
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(鼓掌)
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So I went online, and I found fascinating research papers.
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于是我上网搜索, 发现了有趣的研究论文。
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I learned that these DNA knot things are not always bad.
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我了解到这些DNA结并非总是坏事。
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Actually, the knotting and unknotting --
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事实上,打结和解结——
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it's like a complicated computer language.
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有点像复杂的电脑语言,
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It programs our bodies with exquisite precision.
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它精确地控制着我们的身体。
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So when we get pregnant,
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当我们怀孕时,
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our fertilized eggs grow into newborn babies.
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我们的受精卵可以成长为新生儿。
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This process requires thousands of DNA decisions to happen.
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这个过程由成千上万个DNA决定。
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Should an embryo cell become a blood cell?
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胚胎细胞应该变成血细胞吗?
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A heart cell? A brain cell?
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还是心脏细胞,或者大脑细胞?
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And the decisions happen at different times during pregnancy.
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这些决定发生在怀孕的不同阶段。
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Some in the first trimester, some in the second trimester
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有些发生在早期妊娠阶段, 有些发生在中期妊娠,
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and some in the third trimester.
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有些则发生在晚期。
08:14
To truly understand DNA decision-making,
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为了真正搞清楚DNA决策原理,
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we need to see the process of knot formation in atomic detail.
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我们需要在原子水平观察结的形成。
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Even the most powerful microscopes can't see this.
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即便是最强大的显微镜 也看不见这个过程。
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What if we tried to simulate these on a computer?
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如果我们试着在计算机上进行模拟呢?
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For that we'd need a million computers to do that.
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这样一来,我们就需要 上百万台计算机。
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That's exactly what we have at Los Alamos Labs --
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这正是我们在洛斯阿拉莫斯 实验室所拥有的——
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a million computers connected in a giant warehouse.
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上百万台计算机彼此连接, 并储存在一个巨大的仓库里。
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So here we're showing the DNA making up an entire gene
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这里我们展示的是组成 整个基因的DNA
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folded into very specific shapes of knots.
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折叠成了形状非常特殊的结。
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For the first time,
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这是我的团队
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my team has simulated an entire gene of DNA --
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在史上首次成功模拟了 整个DNA基因——
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the largest biomolecular simulation performed to date.
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这是迄今为止最大规模的 生物分子模拟。
09:00
For the first time, we're beginning to understand the unsolved problem
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这是我们第一次开始揭开激素
09:03
of how hormones trigger the formation of these knots.
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如何引发这些结的形成这一谜团。
09:09
DNA knot formation can be seen beautifully in calico cats.
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漂亮的DNA结信息可以 在花斑猫上看到。
09:14
The decision between orange and black
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在橙色和黑色之间的选择
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happens early on in the womb,
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发生在怀孕早期,
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so that orange-and-black patchy pattern,
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所以这个橙黑相间的斑片状图案,
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it's an exact readout of what happened
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准确地描述了这只猫在
09:24
when that cat was just a tiny little kitten embryo
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母猫子宫里还是
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inside her mom's womb.
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小猫胚胎时的情况。
09:28
And the patchy pattern actually happens in our brains and in cancer.
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这种斑块的模式实际上还发生 在我们的大脑和癌症中。
09:34
It's directly related to intellectual disability and breast cancer.
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它与智力障碍和乳腺癌直接相关。
09:39
These DNA decisions also happen in other parts of the body.
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这些DNA决策也发生在 身体的其他部分。
09:44
It turns out that the precursor genitals transform into either female or male
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事实证明,生殖器前体 会在早期妊娠阶段
09:49
during the first trimester of pregnancy.
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向男性或女性转变。
09:51
The precursor brains, on the other hand,
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另一方面,前体大脑细胞
会在中期妊娠阶段转变成不同性别。
09:54
transform into female or male during the second trimester of pregnancy.
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09:58
So the current working model
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所以目前的工作模式是,
10:00
is that a unique mix in my mom's womb
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我母亲子宫里的一个独特的组合
10:04
caused the precursor genitals to transform one way,
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导致了生殖器前体以一种方式转变,
10:08
but the precursor brain to transform the other way.
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但大脑前体以另一种方式转变。
10:15
Most of epigenetic research
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大多数的表现遗传研究
专注于压力,焦虑,抑郁——
10:17
has really focused on stress, anxiety, depression --
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10:20
kind of a downer,
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有点令人沮丧,
10:21
kind of bad things.
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有点糟糕。
10:23
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
10:24
But nowadays --
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但如今——
10:25
the latest stuff --
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最新的情况——
人们在寻找放松。
10:27
people are looking at relaxation.
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10:28
Can that have a positive effect on your DNA?
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这会对你的DNA产生积极的影响吗?
10:32
Right now we're missing key data from mice models.
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现在我们缺少来自 老鼠模型的关键数据。
10:36
We know that mice relax,
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我们知道老鼠会放松,
10:38
but could they meditate like the Dalai Lama?
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但他们能像喇嘛那样冥想吗?
10:42
Achieve enlightenment?
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能够有所顿悟吗?
10:43
Could they move stones with their mind like Jedi Master Yoda?
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它们能像绝地大师尤达 那样用意念搬动石头吗?
10:47
(Yoda voice): Hm, a Jedi mouse must feel the force flow, hm.
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(模仿尤达的声音):绝地老鼠 必须能感到原力的流动。
10:51
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
10:53
(Applause)
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(鼓掌)
10:57
I wonder if the support I've had since that talk back in Italy
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我想知道,自从那次在意大利的 演讲之后,我得到的支持
11:01
has tried to unwind my DNA.
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是否曾试图解开我的DNA之谜。
11:04
Having a great circle of friends, supportive parents
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有一个很好的朋友圈,支持我的父母,
11:07
and being in a loving relationship
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以及拥有一个亲密的关系,
11:09
has actually given me strength and hope to help others.
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实际上给了我力量和希望去帮助别人。
11:13
At work I wear a rainbow bracelet.
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上班时我戴着彩虹手镯。
11:16
Sometimes it raises eyebrows, but it also raises awareness.
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有时它会令人侧目, 但也会提高人们的意识。
11:20
There's so many transgender people --
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有如此多的跨性别人群——
11:22
especially women of color --
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尤其是有色人种中的女性——
11:24
that are just one demeaning comment away from taking their own lives.
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仅仅是一个负面评论 就可能导致她们自杀。
11:31
Forty percent of us attempt suicide.
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有40%我们这样的人会尝试自杀。
11:35
If you're listening and you feel like you have no other option,
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如果你在听,而且你觉得没有其他选择,
11:40
try to call a friend,
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试着打电话给一个朋友,
11:42
go online or try to get in a support group.
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去上网或试着加入互助小组。
11:45
If you're a woman who's not transgender but you know pain of isolation,
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如果你不是个跨性别的女性, 但你懂得被孤立或者
11:50
of sexual assault --
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遭受性骚扰的痛苦——
11:52
reach out.
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记得向他人寻求帮助。
11:56
So what does it mean to be a woman?
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那么,做女人意味着什么?
12:00
The latest research is showing
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最新的研究显示
12:02
that female and male brains do develop differently in the womb,
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女人和男人的大脑 在子宫中的发育是不一样的,
12:06
possibly giving us females this innate sense of being a woman.
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可能给了我们女人天生的女人意识。
12:11
On the other hand,
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另一方面,
12:12
maybe it's our shared sense of commonality that makes us women.
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也许是我们对共性的 意识让我们成为女人。
12:18
We come in so many different shapes and sizes
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我们生来具有各种不同的体型和身高,
12:20
that asking what it means to be a woman may not be the right question.
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问作为女人意味着什么 这样的问题可能并不恰当。
12:24
It's like asking a calico cat what it means to be a calico cat.
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就像问花斑猫为什么是花斑猫一样。
12:29
Maybe becoming a woman means accepting ourselves
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也许作为女人意味着接受
12:34
for who we really are
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我们到底是谁,
12:36
and acknowledging the same in each other.
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并承认彼此的共同之处。
12:39
I see you.
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我看到你了。
12:41
And you've just seen me.
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你也看到了我。
12:44
(Applause and cheers)
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(鼓掌和欢呼)
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