The biology of gender, from DNA to the brain | Karissa Sanbonmatsu

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So what does it mean to be a woman?
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We all have XX chromosomes, right?
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Actually, that's not true.
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Some women are mosaics.
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They have a mix of chromosome types with X, with XY or with XXX.
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If it's not just about our chromosomes,
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then what is being a woman about?
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Being feminine?
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Getting married?
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Having kids?
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You don't have to look far to find fantastic exceptions
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to these rules,
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but we all share something that makes us women.
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Maybe that something is in our brains.
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You might have heard theories from last century
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about how men are better at math than women
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because they have bigger brains.
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These theories have been debunked.
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The average man has a brain about three times smaller
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than the average elephant,
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but that doesn't mean
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the average man is three times dumber than an elephant ...
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or does it?
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(Laughter)
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There's a new wave of female neuroscientists
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that are finding important differences between female and male brains
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in neuron connectivity,
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in brain structure, in brain activity.
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They're finding that the brain is like a patchwork mosaic --
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a mixture.
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Women have mostly female patches and a few male patches.
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With all this new data, what does it mean to be a woman?
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This is something that I've been thinking about almost my entire life.
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When people learn that I'm a woman who happens to be transgender,
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they always ask,
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"How do you know you're a woman?"
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As a scientist, I'm searching for a biological basis of gender.
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I want to understand what makes me me.
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New discoveries at the front edge of science
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are shedding light on the biomarkers that define gender.
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My colleagues and I in genetics, neuroscience, physiology and psychology,
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we're trying to figure out exactly how gender works.
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These vastly different fields share a common connection --
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epigenetics.
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In epigenetics, we're studying how DNA activity
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can actually radically and permanently change,
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even though the sequence stays the same.
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DNA is the long, string-like molecule that winds up inside our cells.
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There's so much DNA
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that it actually gets tangled into these knot-like things --
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we'll just call them knots.
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So external factors change how those DNA knots are formed.
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You can think of it like this:
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inside our cells, there's different contraptions building things,
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connecting circuits,
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doing all the things they need to make life happen.
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Here's one that's sort of reading the DNA and making RNA.
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And then this one is carrying a huge sac of neurotransmitters
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from one end of the brain cell
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to the other.
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Don't they get hazard pay for this kind of work?
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(Laughter)
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This one is an entire molecular factory --
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some say it's the secret to life.
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It's call the ribosome.
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I've been studying this since 2001.
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One of the stunning things about our cells
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is that the components inside them are actually biodegradable.
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They dissolve,
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and then they're rebuilt each day,
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kind of like a traveling carnival
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where the rides are taken down and then rebuilt every single day.
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A big difference between our cells and the traveling carnival
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is that in the carnival,
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there are skilled craftsmen that rebuild the rides each day.
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In our cells, there are no such skilled craftsmen,
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only dumb builder machines
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that build whatever's written in the plans,
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no matter what those plans say.
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Those plans are the DNA.
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The instructions for every nook and cranny inside our cells.
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If everything in, say, our brain cells
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dissolves almost every day,
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then how can the brain remember anything past one day?
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That's where DNA comes in.
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DNA is one of the those things that does not dissolve.
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But for DNA to remember that something happened,
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it has to change somehow.
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We know the change can't be in the sequence;
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if it changed sequence all the time,
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then we might be growing like, a new ear or a new eyeball every single day.
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(Laughter)
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So, instead it changes shape,
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and that's where those DNA knots come in.
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You can think of them like DNA memory.
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When something big in our life happens,
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like a traumatic childhood event,
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stress hormones flood our brain.
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The stress hormones don't affect the sequence of DNA,
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but they do change the shape.
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They affect that part of DNA
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with the instructions for molecular machines that reduce stress.
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That piece of DNA gets wound up into a knot,
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and now the dumb builder machines can't read the plans they need
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to build the machines that reduce stress.
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That's a mouthful, but it's what's happening on the microscale.
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On the macroscale, you practically lose the ability to deal with stress,
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and that's bad.
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And that's how DNA can remember what happens in the past.
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This is what I think was happening to me
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when I first started my gender transition.
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I knew I was a woman on the inside,
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and I wore women's clothes on the outside,
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but everyone saw me as a man in a dress.
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I felt like no matter how many things I try,
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no one would ever really see me as a woman.
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In science, your credibility is everything,
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and people were snickering in the hallways,
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giving me stares,
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looks of disgust --
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afraid to be near me.
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I remember my first big talk after transition.
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It was in Italy.
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I'd given prestigious talks before,
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but this one, I was terrified.
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I looked out into the audience,
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and the whispers started --
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the stares,
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the smirks, the chuckles.
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To this day, I still have social anxiety around my experience eight years ago.
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I lost hope.
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Don't worry, I've had therapy so I'm OK --
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I'm OK now.
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(Laughter)
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(Cheers)
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(Applause)
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But I felt enough is enough:
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I'm a scientist,
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I have a doctorate in astrophysics,
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I've published in the top journals,
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in wave-particle interactions, space physics,
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nucleic acid biochemistry.
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I've actually been trained to get to the bottom of things, so --
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(Laughter)
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I went online --
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(Applause)
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So I went online, and I found fascinating research papers.
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I learned that these DNA knot things are not always bad.
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Actually, the knotting and unknotting --
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it's like a complicated computer language.
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It programs our bodies with exquisite precision.
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So when we get pregnant,
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our fertilized eggs grow into newborn babies.
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This process requires thousands of DNA decisions to happen.
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Should an embryo cell become a blood cell?
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A heart cell? A brain cell?
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And the decisions happen at different times during pregnancy.
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Some in the first trimester, some in the second trimester
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and some in the third trimester.
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To truly understand DNA decision-making,
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we need to see the process of knot formation in atomic detail.
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Even the most powerful microscopes can't see this.
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What if we tried to simulate these on a computer?
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For that we'd need a million computers to do that.
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That's exactly what we have at Los Alamos Labs --
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a million computers connected in a giant warehouse.
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So here we're showing the DNA making up an entire gene
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folded into very specific shapes of knots.
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For the first time,
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my team has simulated an entire gene of DNA --
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the largest biomolecular simulation performed to date.
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For the first time, we're beginning to understand the unsolved problem
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of how hormones trigger the formation of these knots.
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DNA knot formation can be seen beautifully in calico cats.
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The decision between orange and black
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happens early on in the womb,
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so that orange-and-black patchy pattern,
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it's an exact readout of what happened
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when that cat was just a tiny little kitten embryo
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inside her mom's womb.
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And the patchy pattern actually happens in our brains and in cancer.
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It's directly related to intellectual disability and breast cancer.
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These DNA decisions also happen in other parts of the body.
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It turns out that the precursor genitals transform into either female or male
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during the first trimester of pregnancy.
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The precursor brains, on the other hand,
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transform into female or male during the second trimester of pregnancy.
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So the current working model
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is that a unique mix in my mom's womb
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caused the precursor genitals to transform one way,
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but the precursor brain to transform the other way.
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Most of epigenetic research
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has really focused on stress, anxiety, depression --
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kind of a downer,
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kind of bad things.
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(Laughter)
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But nowadays --
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the latest stuff --
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people are looking at relaxation.
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Can that have a positive effect on your DNA?
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Right now we're missing key data from mice models.
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We know that mice relax,
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but could they meditate like the Dalai Lama?
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Achieve enlightenment?
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Could they move stones with their mind like Jedi Master Yoda?
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(Yoda voice): Hm, a Jedi mouse must feel the force flow, hm.
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(Laughter)
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(Applause)
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I wonder if the support I've had since that talk back in Italy
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has tried to unwind my DNA.
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Having a great circle of friends, supportive parents
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and being in a loving relationship
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has actually given me strength and hope to help others.
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At work I wear a rainbow bracelet.
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Sometimes it raises eyebrows, but it also raises awareness.
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There's so many transgender people --
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especially women of color --
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that are just one demeaning comment away from taking their own lives.
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Forty percent of us attempt suicide.
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If you're listening and you feel like you have no other option,
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try to call a friend,
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go online or try to get in a support group.
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If you're a woman who's not transgender but you know pain of isolation,
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of sexual assault --
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reach out.
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So what does it mean to be a woman?
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The latest research is showing
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that female and male brains do develop differently in the womb,
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possibly giving us females this innate sense of being a woman.
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On the other hand,
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maybe it's our shared sense of commonality that makes us women.
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We come in so many different shapes and sizes
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that asking what it means to be a woman may not be the right question.
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It's like asking a calico cat what it means to be a calico cat.
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Maybe becoming a woman means accepting ourselves
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for who we really are
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and acknowledging the same in each other.
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I see you.
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And you've just seen me.
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(Applause and cheers)
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